To re MS and dairy products

[Guest guest]

,

In Dr. 's book, The Cure For All Diseases, she

writes about MS and dairy. Shigellas are in dairy

products causing the problem.

--- Luc e <sluce@...> wrote:

> I too have MS and awful digestive problems and

> urinary tract pain. Can you

> tell me how you have controlled your MS with diet

> revision? I have not been

> able to contact anyone with MS who also has such

> digestive difficulties.

> Dairy products seem to be the greatest irritant, but

> now I am wondering if

> gluten also is a factor. Sugar, though, is

> unquestionably, a major problem.

>

> If you feel that this is an off-topic for this

> forum, please email me

> privately. Thanks.

>

>

>

> sluce@...

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I joined this group 5 minutes ago! I know

> absolutly nothing about bowel

> cleansing and any related subjects.

> >

> > I have multiple sclerosis and diet revision have

> almost totaly control the

> disease. Since years (before MS), I can permanently

> feel my descending

> colon. It seems to be irritated. Sometimes (once or

> twice a month) I have a

> little pain. What do you think about that. I don't

> expect you to give me a

> diagnostic, but comments and suggestions would be

> very appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks a lot.

> >

> > Yannick

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Many harmful bacteria ride along from the dairy barn, through the

milk tanks and into your milk carton. Salmonellas and Shigellas are

two very harmful bacteria always found in every milk sample I test.

Clostridium and Rhizobium are other common types. Besides bacteria,

one can find eggs of parasites, such as tapeworms and flukes in the

milk. And since cheese, yogurt, ice cream and butter are made from

milk, they too are contaminated, in spite of pasteurization. Of

course, you could test your dairy products with a Syncrometer to try

to find a good one.

But there is a simple way to correct this sanitation problem. Boil

the milk with a pinch of salt. Ten seconds is long enough. This would

be long enough to kill the Clostridium, Salmonella, Shigella and E.

coli varieties I commonly see. The salt raises the boiling

temperature just enough to also kill Rhizobium leguminosarum, too,

which is extra hardy.

Mahkti

> > I too have MS and awful digestive problems and

> > urinary tract pain. Can you

> > tell me how you have controlled your MS with diet

> > revision? I have not been

> > able to contact anyone with MS who also has such

> > digestive difficulties.

> > Dairy products seem to be the greatest irritant, but

> > now I am wondering if

> > gluten also is a factor. Sugar, though, is

> > unquestionably, a major problem.

> >

> > If you feel that this is an off-topic for this

> > forum, please email me

> > privately. Thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> > sluce@c...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > I joined this group 5 minutes ago! I know

> > absolutly nothing about bowel

> > cleansing and any related subjects.

> > >

> > > I have multiple sclerosis and diet revision have

> > almost totaly control the

> > disease. Since years (before MS), I can permanently

> > feel my descending

> > colon. It seems to be irritated. Sometimes (once or

> > twice a month) I have a

> > little pain. What do you think about that. I don't

> > expect you to give me a

> > diagnostic, but comments and suggestions would be

> > very appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot.

> > >

> > > Yannick

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

The Ultimate Bowel Cleanse or any simular Bowel Cleanse and/or

Colonic seems to be exactly what you need to resolve the problems

that you mention below. Dairy does generate mucous in the body and

your problems may be due to this mucous aspect.

Mahkti

> > > > I too have MS and awful digestive problems and

> > > > urinary tract pain. Can you

> > > > tell me how you have controlled your MS with diet

> > > > revision? I have not been

> > > > able to contact anyone with MS who also has such

> > > > digestive difficulties.

> > > > Dairy products seem to be the greatest irritant, but

> > > > now I am wondering if

> > > > gluten also is a factor. Sugar, though, is

> > > > unquestionably, a major problem.

> > > >

> > > > If you feel that this is an off-topic for this

> > > > forum, please email me

> > > > privately. Thanks.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sluce@c...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > I joined this group 5 minutes ago! I know

> > > > absolutly nothing about bowel

> > > > cleansing and any related subjects.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have multiple sclerosis and diet revision have

> > > > almost totaly control the

> > > > disease. Since years (before MS), I can permanently

> > > > feel my descending

> > > > colon. It seems to be irritated. Sometimes (once or

> > > > twice a month) I have a

> > > > little pain. What do you think about that. I don't

> > > > expect you to give me a

> > > > diagnostic, but comments and suggestions would be

> > > > very appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yannick

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Another theory (molecular mimicry) seems to be that the proteins in dairy

(unlike lactose intolerance which is intolerance for the milk sugars)

result in a hyper-activated immune response. Thank you......every

possibility is worth investigating.

> ,

>

> In Dr. 's book, The Cure For All Diseases, she

> writes about MS and dairy. Shigellas are in dairy

> products causing the problem.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

I'm jumping into the middle of a thread here without having

read all the prior posts, so sorry if my context is a little

skewed.

Mercury poisoning can precede both inability to digest

gluten and caesin (in dairy) AND MS. (I'm always reluctant

to say " cause " , although I think the evidence probably

warrants using that word in both cases.) There are references

on both.

Which would make it seem well worth looking into mercury

posioning. Hair tests are relatively cheap and relatively

painless.

The list autism treatment (on ) is the best source

of info I know of regarding merc poisoning and chelation.

The FAQ for this group is now publically accessable at:

/files/Mercury-Autism%20FAQ

best,

Moria

At 10:07 AM 8/7/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>

>Another theory (molecular mimicry) seems to be that the proteins in dairy

>(unlike lactose intolerance which is intolerance for the milk sugars)

>result in a hyper-activated immune response. Thank you......every

>possibility is worth investigating.

>

[Guest guest]

I am not surprised that these bacteria exist in dairy products. However,

bacteria seem to be the least of my troubles. My body's immune system is in

hyperdrive and attacks every bacteria and virus that invades it. I have not

been sick in the usual sense (like a respiratory virus or bacterial

enteropathy) in over 10 years. And yet I have malabsorption of nutrients

and several kinds of food intolerances, intractable constipation, burning

pain in the lower half of my body that fluctuates with blood sugar levels,

muscle weakness and, of course, numbness. I have determined that, without a

doubt, for me, dairy products cause stiffness and painful joints. I would

imagine that joint pain, too, is an autoimmune reaction..

> Dear ,

>

> Many harmful bacteria ride along from the dairy barn, through the

> milk tanks and into your milk carton. Salmonellas and Shigellas are

> two very harmful bacteria always found in every milk sample I test.

> Clostridium and Rhizobium are other common types. Besides bacteria,

> one can find eggs of parasites, such as tapeworms and flukes in the

> milk. And since cheese, yogurt, ice cream and butter are made from

> milk, they too are contaminated, in spite of pasteurization. Of

> course, you could test your dairy products with a Syncrometer to try

> to find a good one.

>

> But there is a simple way to correct this sanitation problem. Boil

> the milk with a pinch of salt. Ten seconds is long enough. This would

> be long enough to kill the Clostridium, Salmonella, Shigella and E.

> coli varieties I commonly see. The salt raises the boiling

> temperature just enough to also kill Rhizobium leguminosarum, too,

> which is extra hardy.

>

> Mahkti

>

>

>

> > > I too have MS and awful digestive problems and

> > > urinary tract pain. Can you

> > > tell me how you have controlled your MS with diet

> > > revision? I have not been

> > > able to contact anyone with MS who also has such

> > > digestive difficulties.

> > > Dairy products seem to be the greatest irritant, but

> > > now I am wondering if

> > > gluten also is a factor. Sugar, though, is

> > > unquestionably, a major problem.

> > >

> > > If you feel that this is an off-topic for this

> > > forum, please email me

> > > privately. Thanks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sluce@c...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi everyone,

> > > >

> > > > I joined this group 5 minutes ago! I know

> > > absolutly nothing about bowel

> > > cleansing and any related subjects.

> > > >

> > > > I have multiple sclerosis and diet revision have

> > > almost totaly control the

> > > disease. Since years (before MS), I can permanently

> > > feel my descending

> > > colon. It seems to be irritated. Sometimes (once or

> > > twice a month) I have a

> > > little pain. What do you think about that. I don't

> > > expect you to give me a

> > > diagnostic, but comments and suggestions would be

> > > very appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot.

> > > >

> > > > Yannick

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Moria, Can you tell us where this hair testing can be done?

Do you need a doc to approve of the test?

LIZ D

Re: To re MS

and dairy products

Hello all,

I'm jumping into the middle of a thread here without having

read all the prior posts, so sorry if my context is a little

skewed.

Mercury poisoning can precede both inability to digest

gluten and caesin (in dairy) AND MS. (I'm always reluctant

to say " cause " , although I think the evidence probably

warrants using that word in both cases.) There are references

on both.

Which would make it seem well worth looking into mercury

posioning. Hair tests are relatively cheap and relatively

painless.

The list autism treatment (on ) is the best source

of info I know of regarding merc poisoning and chelation.

The FAQ for this group is now publically accessable at:

/files/Mercury-Autism%20FAQ

best,

Moria

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