Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 Can somebody please give us a web address for Sputnik? This sounds interesting as well. Thanks, Betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 Well Kim; I guess answering your question is answering two or more at one time. The site for information about, and getting a Sputnik http://www.999alternatives.com/ . You may very well be experiencing a common problem known as Herxhiemer Reaction. This will occur in those who's bodies do in fact have parasites that are dying. It's very important to consider what is happening with the liver and the intestines at this time. When there is a die-off the liver has more toxins to get out to the intestines; that is; the colon. But if there isn't a medium by which the toxins are to be carried out then they are reabsorbed and cause greater discomfort. This is when it is important to be eating foods which are soluble fibers. Soluble fibered foods act like sponges and absorb the toxins into the fecal matter and then can be deposited at the appropriate time. This is also a good time to understand how to cleanse the bowels by other means than just the soluble and insoluble fiber. This is done by enemas or colonic. High enemas are better but just general Fleet Enemas will go far at causing movements and flushing out the lower and transverse colon. When doing a parasite cleanse fasting isn't a good choice. From your description of uterus, bowel and back problems along with a family history of gallbladder problems, you are doing well to consider the health of your general well being. However, because of this history, to which you've pointed, I would certainly consider working diligently on cleaning up the liver and colon before doing a solid parasite cleanse. But, once again, you are already into it and if you can stand the discomfort it should pass in a few days. It's possible to get to feeling pretty dogged tired, and sick, when the herxhiemer reaction gets real strong. I've been through it with a Candia cleanse and it wasn't a fun time, but that was before I knew what I do now about the liver and colon's relationship to the detox process. Herbal cleanses will certainly get parasites from other areas of the body. In fact that is usually the reason for the herxhiemer reaction from toxins from die-off. DaleDa_@... Sputnik and introduction Hi,Please excuse me, I am new, but what is Sputnik?I started a bowel cleanse last Thursday and added the parasite cleansetoday. I'm finding that I feel very tired and my thinking is foggy. Couldthis be an alergic reaction to the herbs? or maybe die off? The parasitecleanse also seems to cause acid indigestion in my stomache...is this normaltoo?As far as I know I don't have a major health problem. I have been tired,sore back, headaches, uterus and bowel problems. I decided to try thisbecause my parents are plagued with health problems that I believe couldhave been avoided, asthma, gall bladder removal, heart and circulartoryproblems to name a few and before they reached 50. Will herbal cleansesremove parasites from other parts of the body?I imagine these questions are repetitious for you but I would appreciate anyhelp you could offer.Thank youKimSubscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 In a message dated 08/14/2000 12:22:30 AM Central Daylight Time, Da_@... writes: << ou may very well be experiencing a common problem known as Herxhiemer Reaction. This will occur in those who's bodies do in fact have parasites that are dying. It's very important to consider what is happening with the liver and the intestines at this time. When there is a die-off the liver has more toxins to get out to the intestines; that is; the colon. But if there isn't a medium by which the toxins are to be carried out then they are reabsorbed and cause greater discomfort. This is when it is important to be eating foods which are soluble fibers. Soluble fibered foods act like sponges and absorb the toxins into the fecal matter and then can be deposited at the appropriate time. This is also a good time to understand how to cleanse the bowels by other means than just the soluble and insoluble fiber. This is done by enemas or colonic. High enemas are better but just general Fleet Enemas will go far at causing movements and flushing out the lower and transverse colon. >> ******************************* Something we have found to be helpful is when doing any thing that could cause a dying off of candida or parasites or???, is to do the above mentioned things PLUS Sonnes liquid benetonite ( 1 TB with 1 ts psyllium husk in 8oz juiceor water) and later homozon and enemas if needed. When a person feels rotten from the " cure " they tend to back off and not do it due to the discomfort. Lots water and rest also help. ej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 In a message dated 8/14/00 7:54:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dreamcountry@... writes: << I was told that a parasite cleanse should be done before a liver cleanse. The problem being that it is difficult to clean the liver if parasites are present. The order I thought they were to be done was colon, parasite, kidney (along with arterial creating a lymphatic cleanse aswell), then the liver cleanse. Is this totally backwards? Has anyone tried Dr. Hulda 's liver cleanse? Is it effective? Is there a different one that removes stones that you can suggest? >> As I recently said, Hulda e recommends doing a parasite cleanse (zapper and herbs) before doing the liver/g.b. flush, to avoid a particularly severe healing crisis which can last a couple of days. However, most sources I have come across recommend the reverse--cleansing out the liver/g.b. first so that when the parasites are killed, they and their waste products flush out of the system easily. I have done the Hulda e liver/gallstones cleanse. It is very effective. I passed hundreds of small stones, about one quarter inch in diameter, and one nasty one about the size of an olive. I had done a lot of parasite cleansing before but when I did the liver cleanse I was in the middle of a bad relapse with parasites. It worked well anyway. I had also fasted before I did the cleanse. I don't think the order matters that much. Fasting, parasite cleansing, liver cleanse, kidney cleanse, sputnik...there are pros and cons all around regarding the order. The point is, just do them. Regarding a gallstone cleanse more effective than Hulda e's I don't think there is one. The olive oil/citrus combo is a time-honored remedy which you will find in many books. Hulda's specific contribution is the epsom salts and the specific timing of ingestion. It works very well. I can't imagine anything working better--any more stones than I eliminated at one time I would think would be too severe on the system. There were hundreds and afterward I felt great. Do this every two weeks. Robin G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 In a message dated 8/14/00 1:22:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Da_@... writes: << When doing a parasite cleanse fasting isn't a good choice. >> What is it that prompts you to say this? Is it the lack of soluble fibers to absorb the toxins emitted by the die-off? Robin G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 Hi Dale, Thank you for your information, I will continue, knowing it is normal. I was told that a parasite cleanse should be done before a liver cleanse. The problem being that it is difficult to clean the liver if parasites are present. The order I thought they were to be done was colon, parasite, kidney (along with arterial creating a lymphatic cleanse aswell), then the liver cleanse. Is this totally backwards? Has anyone tried Dr. Hulda 's liver cleanse? Is it effective? Is there a different one that removes stones that you can suggest? Thanks, Kim From your description of uterus, bowel and back problems along with a family history of gallbladder problems, you are doing well to consider the health of your general well being. However, because of this history, to which you've pointed, I would certainly consider working diligently on cleaning up the liver and colon before doing a solid parasite cleanse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 ej, Thanks I will try Sonnes liquid benetonite aswell but the psyllium is in the fibre blend I am taking. I mix the blend in juice, can the Sonnes liquid benetonite be mixed in the same glass and taken at the same time? Kim Something we have found to be helpful is when doing any thing that could cause a dying off of candida or parasites or???, is to do the above mentioned things PLUS Sonnes liquid benetonite ( 1 TB with 1 ts psyllium husk in 8oz juiceor water) and later homozon and enemas if needed. When a person feels rotten from the " cure " they tend to back off and not do it due to the discomfort. Lots water and rest also help. ej Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 I prefer Dr. Schulzes #2 formula, which also includes, in addition to the bentonite, activated charcoal (which is VERY effective at adsorbing many different toxins and chemicals that bentonite will not). Re: Sputnik and introduction In a message dated 08/14/2000 12:22:30 AM Central Daylight Time, Da_@... writes: << ou may very well be experiencing a common problem known as Herxhiemer Reaction. This will occur in those who's bodies do in fact have parasites that are dying. It's very important to consider what is happening with the liver and the intestines at this time. When there is a die-off the liver has more toxins to get out to the intestines; that is; the colon. But if there isn't a medium by which the toxins are to be carried out then they are reabsorbed and cause greater discomfort. This is when it is important to be eating foods which are soluble fibers. Soluble fibered foods act like sponges and absorb the toxins into the fecal matter and then can be deposited at the appropriate time. This is also a good time to understand how to cleanse the bowels by other means than just the soluble and insoluble fiber. This is done by enemas or colonic. High enemas are better but just general Fleet Enemas will go far at causing movements and flushing out the lower and transverse colon. >> ******************************* Something we have found to be helpful is when doing any thing that could cause a dying off of candida or parasites or???, is to do the above mentioned things PLUS Sonnes liquid benetonite ( 1 TB with 1 ts psyllium husk in 8oz juiceor water) and later homozon and enemas if needed. When a person feels rotten from the " cure " they tend to back off and not do it due to the discomfort. Lots water and rest also help. ej ------------------------------------------------------------ --------<e|- Bad Credit History? No Credit? Magna Plus Visa Will Give You A Chance To Establish Or Re-Establish Your Credit. Easy Approval - No Up-Front Deposit - No Credit Turndowns 1/8339/1/_/478268/_/966251488/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --------|e>- Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 Yes DaleDa_@... Re: Sputnik and introduction In a message dated 8/14/00 1:22:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Da_@... writes:<< When doing a parasite cleanse fasting isn't a good choice. >>What is it that prompts you to say this? Is it the lack of soluble fibers to absorb the toxins emitted by the die-off?Robin G.Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 In a message dated 8/14/00 1:22:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Da_@... writes:<< When doing a parasite cleanse fasting isn't a good choice. >>What is it that prompts you to say this? Is it the lack of soluble fibers to absorb the toxins emitted by the die-off? Yes DaleDa_@... I am not going to disagree with Dale here, but I do want to mention that enemas and colonics are recommended to use with fasting to fascilitate the removal of toxins. Remember that there are four organs involved in the removal of toxins--the kidneys, liver, lungs and skin. Fasting will increase the rate of removal from all four of these, and actually reduces the stressload of the body, as there is no more food to deal with. Therefore, the energy of the body can be more targeted to the task at hand, namely, cleansing without further interference from foods. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 It is neither backward or forwards in this matter. It is simply a process. When you start to clean your house it isn't possible to do all the areas at one time. So you always start somewhere but you don't just throw the garbage and trash on the floor outside of one room into another. So what your trying to do here is get things cleaned so you can move on to the next thing needing cleaned. It doesn't mean it's all going to happen at one time. As an example I, being mechanical in nature, have had to clean my truck's engine with degreaser. Well, it's pretty bad so the first or second attempts don't necessarily make it spotless. The degreaser gets off layers of grease until I get to a level of what could be considered a plaque because of how hardened the grease has become. That then takes a bit more work to be removed. Shoot even using a steam cleaning machine doesn't get everything but it will usually do much better than the degreaser. You could parallel this thought with the work of the sputnik's need to be passed through the system a couple of times. When you start to clean your house usually there is a need to have a vacuum cleaner and a trash-can which are emptily, enough, to handle the amount of garbage and trash which may be needing removed. I liken this to the liver and intestines. If the liver, vacuum, is too full then it may need to be emptied before starting. But, if the trash-can, colon, is too full and the vacuum matter is dumped on it then it just over flows back to the floor, needing to be picked up again. How can the colon be too full and especially if you are having regular movements? Easily, it could have congestion on the walls of the colon which are not allowing the transfer of waste and nutrition. It is then too full and needs cleaned. We could carry this farther and liken it to the waste pipes for your plumbing. Surely by now you've seen the advertisement for the new "foaming" pipe cleaner that cleans all sides of the drain pipe. Well, that pretty much sums up the colon too, but, no matter how good that cleanser my be for cleaning out waste lines it still isn't for human consumption. How can you know that you have a congested colon? It really isn't all that easy to tell without a laparoscopy examination, but, it's a pretty sure thing if there are varying movements when there isn't a major diet change taking place. That is, loose at one movement, and firm at another. It can be pretty well counted on if the diet has had a lot of refined food products over the years and especially flour. Do you remember how to make figures which are pretty hard from mom's refined flour? Just add a little water to make a paste, which is pretty sticky, and then letting it dry or cooking it at a low temperature to remove the moisture. Just some thoughts to proceed with, in deciding which is the best thing from which to start; clean the liver and colon, or clean out the parasites? Or both at the same time? You know your body and its reaction better than any doctor, and it would appear you're pretty well in tune with what its telling you now. Here is one more thought to ponder; If a person has an unknown sever heart condition but goes to the doctor because of contacting the flu, and that is found out, what is the doctor going to attempt to treat first? DaleDa_@... Re: Sputnik and introduction Hi Dale, Thank you for your information, I will continue, knowing it is normal. I was told that a parasite cleanse should be done before a liver cleanse. The problem being that it is difficult to clean the liver if parasites are present. The order I thought they were to be done was colon, parasite, kidney (along with arterial creating a lymphatic cleanse aswell), then the liver cleanse. Is this totally backwards? Has anyone tried Dr. Hulda 's liver cleanse? Is it effective? Is there a different one that removes stones that you can suggest? Thanks, Kim From your description of uterus, bowel and back problems along with a family history of gallbladder problems, you are doing well to consider the health of your general well being. However, because of this history, to which you've pointed, I would certainly consider working diligently on cleaning up the liver and colon before doing a solid parasite cleanse. Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 At 08:19 AM 8/14/2000 -0700, you wrote: >It is neither backward or forwards in this matter. It is simply a process. >When you start to clean your house it isn't possible to do all the areas >at one time. So you always start somewhere but you don't just throw the >garbage and trash on the floor outside of one room into another. So what >your trying to do here is get things cleaned so you can move on to the >next thing needing cleaned. It doesn't mean it's all going to happen at >one time. I'd just like to add that the body (physically and energetically) can do only so much cleansing at one time, it will move at it's own pace regardless of what we think or expect. So patience and understanding are good attitudes to have. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 I very highly suggest enemas or colonics along with oxygen therapies if fasting but, the problem that raises its head here is that there is a need to take in minerals and EFAs to support the liver and colon as well. It is vital to replace the minerals as well as the electrolytes after doing these. In today's world we have grown up with the accumulation of a tremendous amount of toxic intake on a daily basis. So, true fasting without nourishment intake is a bit more difficult a process, as failing to do so we deprive our organs of the nutrients they need to do a detoxing of the other areas of the body as well as themselves. IF we, who are now living in this fast pace world, were living on more of the natural foods and air that existed many years ago, there would be no problem with doing just water fasts. There is a lot of discomfort in attempting what I call a solid fast with the overload that the organs have to take on. It can be done, and quite quickly by not taking in foods, i.e. nourishment, but, it ain't very comfortable, and in some cases can be dangerous depending upon the toxins which have become stored in the brown fat cells. Persons who have worked their bodies to the point where their general health is already good can do fasts without the chance of detriment to themselves. I just don't support solid fasts because most people today don't have bodies capable of handling the toxic amounts their own bodies have in them. At least not until they have done some homework on their bodies to be ready for such a load. Liken it to body builders who try to lift the weight they did a few months before but haven't been doing the exercise needed to do so. It can damage muscles in an attempt to do so. Regaining good health is all a process, and fasting is just one of those processes. It, in the case of someone not prepared to do so, could be more likened to a bulldozer being used to clean a very dirty house. It can do more damage than good. DaleDa_@... Re: Sputnik and introduction In a message dated 8/14/00 1:22:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Da_@... writes:<< When doing a parasite cleanse fasting isn't a good choice. >>What is it that prompts you to say this? Is it the lack of soluble fibers to absorb the toxins emitted by the die-off? Yes DaleDa_@... I am not going to disagree with Dale here, but I do want to mention that enemas and colonics are recommended to use with fasting to fascilitate the removal of toxins. Remember that there are four organs involved in the removal of toxins--the kidneys, liver, lungs and skin. Fasting will increase the rate of removal from all four of these, and actually reduces the stressload of the body, as there is no more food to deal with. Therefore, the energy of the body can be more targeted to the task at hand, namely, cleansing without further interference from foods. Patty Subscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 Karma wrote: >>My mother has an unknown virus that attacks her heart muscle.<< I find this interesting as my husband became very ill with a "flu" like virus last January and his heart has been skipping beats ever since, followed by a hard thump, 5 to 12 times a minute. It has never cleared up. He does intend to do a arterial clease after the bowel cleanse. I know that this is off topic but if anyone comments on this issue to Karma could you send the reply to me aswell? Thank you for this list it has already been a source of valuable information and support (just knowing I'm not alone helps). Be well, Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 Dale or anyone else that might know the answer, I have a few questions. Just to remind you of my history. I did the Sonne's 7 day cleanse with lots and lots of coffee enemas, then garlic enemas. This cleanse is a fasting cleanse, but you take organic supplements, so the body is being nourished. I then did a three day stone flush cleanse to clean the gallbladder and kidneys of stones immediately following the 7 day cleans. I passed a lot of black ropey stuff and lost about 15 pounds in this 11 day period. I then ate real food for about three days and was not happy with the lack of bowel movements, so, I started another 7 day cleanse. The kit had enough product to do this as I remember it. It was during this second 7 day cleanse that it was brought to my attention that I should be doing a parasite cleanse too. So on day 4, I added the black walnut to my daily routine. The next day I started passing worms and continued to pass them for about two weeks. It was during this two week period that I was told that the black walnut only got intestinal parasites and that I should do something else to kill them throughout the body. That is how I was introduced to the Awareness products. I have been taking them since and have passed a couple of tape worms and lots of jelly type stuff. My bowels are moving regularly now too. Before taking the Awareness products and from just doing the colon cleansing with the addition of parasite cleansing, I became 35 pounds lighter. I am sure it all went down the toilet! Here is my question, finally.... I didn't know about the Sputnik before doing all this, do you think that taking the Sputnik would be a faster more beneficial and cheaper way to kill any remaining parasites that might still be in my body? Do you think that the Sputnik would kill viruses? My mother has an unknown virus that attacks her heart muscle. She has been to as many specialists as her Drs. know to send her. She got this condition over a weekend. She worked in a basement room that had been closed up for probably 20 years trying to get the room ready to be a classroom on Monday morning. She has been sick ever since with this, especially when stressed. She has had this problem for at least 15 years now. We started her on the Awareness products thinking that they were the best choice to kill anything that shouldn't be living in the body. Do you think that the Sputnik would be a better choice? Can it be used in addition to the Awareness Cleanse and Rebuild products? I realize that I asked several questions and you asked us not to do that to you. I hope that you will have some answers though. Sincerely, KarmaMy web site address: http://loaves-n-fishes.com Re: Sputnik and introduction I very highly suggest enemas or colonics along with oxygen therapies if fasting but, the problem that raises its head here is that there is a need to take in minerals and EFAs to support the liver and colon as well. It is vital to replace the minerals as well as the electrolytes after doing these. In today's world we have grown up with the accumulation of a tremendous amount of toxic intake on a daily basis. So, true fasting without nourishment intake is a bit more difficult a process, as failing to do so we deprive our organs of the nutrients they need to do a detoxing of the other areas of the body as well as themselves. IF we, who are now living in this fast pace world, were living on more of the natural foods and air that existed many years ago, there would be no problem with doing just water fasts. There is a lot of discomfort in attempting what I call a solid fast with the overload that the organs have to take on. It can be done, and quite quickly by not taking in foods, i.e. nourishment, but, it ain't very comfortable, and in some cases can be dangerous depending upon the toxins which have become stored in the brown fat cells. Persons who have worked their bodies to the point where their general health is already good can do fasts without the chance of detriment to themselves. I just don't support solid fasts because most people today don't have bodies capable of handling the toxic amounts their own bodies have in them. At least not until they have done some homework on their bodies to be ready for such a load. Liken it to body builders who try to lift the weight they did a few months before but haven't been doing the exercise needed to do so. It can damage muscles in an attempt to do so. Regaining good health is all a process, and fasting is just one of those processes. It, in the case of someone not prepared to do so, could be more likened to a bulldozer being used to clean a very dirty house. It can do more damage than good. DaleDa_@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 If it is a virus wouldn't Colloid Silver or the Zapper work? Kim Re: Sputnik and introduction Hi Kim, My mom had that symptom at first. We then discovered that it got worse when she was stressed. She is a teacher and she would be just hanging in during the school week, then on Friday night she would get better, then Saturday be fine. Sunday when thinking of going back to work, she would have many problems, like profuse sweating, heart skipping beats, weakness. She has seen so many doctors and specialists that have looked at her, tested her for everything and can only say that they don't know what it is except it is a virus that attacks her healthy heart muscle. It has attacked it to the point that last year they thought that they were going to have to operate and give her a new heart valve. When she is under extreme stress like the idea of going back to work after Christmas break or summer break, then she ends up in Intensive care for a couple of weeks. I can't remember that last time that she actually started the school year out like all the other teachers. She is Intensive Care with monitors and tubes all over her. Her blood pressure becomes such that it is the same coming and going from her heart. That makes her very light headed and she passes out. We are hoping that it is a microscopic parasite that can be killed and be done with the whole problem. She has reported to me that since taking the Awareness products that it is almost like it is starting all over again with the way it set in 15 years ago. The first symptom that she experienced back then was profuse sweating and being very light headed and queasy. She said she hasn't had that symptom in probably ten years. We are hoping that these are cleansing symptoms and normal. I will keep you posted if she is able to get rid of the symptoms altogether and kill the cause! Sincerely, KarmaMy web site address: http://loaves-n-fishes.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 In a message dated 08/14/2000 7:23:52 AM Central Daylight Time, simonjester@... writes: << I prefer Dr. Schulzes #2 formula, which also includes, in addition to the bentonite, activated charcoal (which is VERY effective at adsorbing many different toxins and chemicals that bentonite will not). Charle >> ____________ I used that for yrs before I discovered Sonnes. Nothing like having black between my teeth at work from the #2. Life is now much better tasting. I still use the #2 at times. ej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 Hi Kim, My mom had that symptom at first. We then discovered that it got worse when she was stressed. She is a teacher and she would be just hanging in during the school week, then on Friday night she would get better, then Saturday be fine. Sunday when thinking of going back to work, she would have many problems, like profuse sweating, heart skipping beats, weakness. She has seen so many doctors and specialists that have looked at her, tested her for everything and can only say that they don't know what it is except it is a virus that attacks her healthy heart muscle. It has attacked it to the point that last year they thought that they were going to have to operate and give her a new heart valve. When she is under extreme stress like the idea of going back to work after Christmas break or summer break, then she ends up in Intensive care for a couple of weeks. I can't remember that last time that she actually started the school year out like all the other teachers. She is Intensive Care with monitors and tubes all over her. Her blood pressure becomes such that it is the same coming and going from her heart. That makes her very light headed and she passes out. We are hoping that it is a microscopic parasite that can be killed and be done with the whole problem. She has reported to me that since taking the Awareness products that it is almost like it is starting all over again with the way it set in 15 years ago. The first symptom that she experienced back then was profuse sweating and being very light headed and queasy. She said she hasn't had that symptom in probably ten years. We are hoping that these are cleansing symptoms and normal. I will keep you posted if she is able to get rid of the symptoms altogether and kill the cause! Sincerely, KarmaMy web site address: http://loaves-n-fishes.com Re: Sputnik and introduction Karma wrote: >>My mother has an unknown virus that attacks her heart muscle.<< I find this interesting as my husband became very ill with a "flu" like virus last January and his heart has been skipping beats ever since, followed by a hard thump, 5 to 12 times a minute. It has never cleared up. He does intend to do a arterial clease after the bowel cleanse. I know that this is off topic but if anyone comments on this issue to Karma could you send the reply to me aswell? Thank you for this list it has already been a source of valuable information and support (just knowing I'm not alone helps). Be well, KimSubscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 We have tried colloidal silver and nothing. I just found out about the zapper and we haven't gone any further than read more about it on the web. She is currently doing the Awareness 90 cleanse and rebuild program. She did the Sonne's 7 day cleanse with lots of enemas before she started it too. KarmaMy web site address: http://loaves-n-fishes.com Re: Sputnik and introduction Hi Kim, My mom had that symptom at first. We then discovered that it got worse when she was stressed. She is a teacher and she would be just hanging in during the school week, then on Friday night she would get better, then Saturday be fine. Sunday when thinking of going back to work, she would have many problems, like profuse sweating, heart skipping beats, weakness. She has seen so many doctors and specialists that have looked at her, tested her for everything and can only say that they don't know what it is except it is a virus that attacks her healthy heart muscle. It has attacked it to the point that last year they thought that they were going to have to operate and give her a new heart valve. When she is under extreme stress like the idea of going back to work after Christmas break or summer break, then she ends up in Intensive care for a couple of weeks. I can't remember that last time that she actually started the school year out like all the other teachers. She is Intensive Care with monitors and tubes all over her. Her blood pressure becomes such that it is the same coming and going from her heart. That makes her very light headed and she passes out. We are hoping that it is a microscopic parasite that can be killed and be done with the whole problem. She has reported to me that since taking the Awareness products that it is almost like it is starting all over again with the way it set in 15 years ago. The first symptom that she experienced back then was profuse sweating and being very light headed and queasy. She said she hasn't had that symptom in probably ten years. We are hoping that these are cleansing symptoms and normal. I will keep you posted if she is able to get rid of the symptoms altogether and kill the cause! Sincerely, KarmaMy web site address: http://loaves-n-fishes.comSubscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 In a message dated 8/14/00 11:11:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, faussettdp@... writes: << there are four organs involved in the removal of toxins--the kidneys, liver, lungs and skin. Fasting will increase the rate of removal from all four of these, and actually reduces the stressload of the body, as there is no more food to deal with. >> I find that periodically fasting for a few days helps my parasite condition a lot. Robin G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2000 Report Share Posted August 15, 2000 >The first symptom that she experienced back then was profuse sweating and >being very light headed and queasy. She said she hasn't had that symptom >in probably ten years. We are hoping that these are cleansing symptoms and >normal. > That sounds like " retracing " ...Hope all goes well.:0) Donna ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2000 Report Share Posted August 15, 2000 At 11:03 PM 8/13/2000 -0400, you wrote: >I started a bowel cleanse last Thursday and added the parasite cleanse >today. I'm finding that I feel very tired and my thinking is foggy. Could >this be an alergic reaction to the herbs? or maybe die off? The parasite >cleanse also seems to cause acid indigestion in my stomache...is this normal >too? Here are some notes on the healing process, it's a scan and not the best quality but readable. You need Adobe Acrobat reader to view. http://north-land.com/discovery/healing_process.pdf Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2000 Report Share Posted August 15, 2000 where does one get the Schulzes formula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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