Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Thanks Lorrie, I'll make the call when the flooding subsides > > - > > I had PT about 1 month after my surgery - it is just to get you moving again > - it really helped me. They did nothing painful, in fact they said if it > hurts - don't do it. > > Lorrie Snyder > > [ ] PT > > Did anyone else start PT one month post op> It sounds early to me. > > > > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Glad to hear that you will be getting water therapy, . It is very gentle and soothing! In a message dated 6/12/06 9:46:52 PM, vclark@... writes: Hi all, Since starting PT, twice I developed a tingling feeling in ly left hand and foot after PT. The surgeon says to recover by "doing what my body says", so I rested a few days and it got somewhat better. I went to PT again today and the same thing happened. First, the doctors orders were exercise with the brace on, well, I seem to be pinching nerves. I did manage to get an order for water therapy without the brace so I am hoping that will be easier on my system. Meanwhile, this really, really hurts,aches, tingles, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 , You are smart to listen to your body. I wasn't clear, did you report the tingling feeling to DrG following the PT and then he said to wear your brace while doing PT? If not, and either way, maybe it would be worth a call? Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Hi Cam, I did call the dr office. The original order was PT with the brace. After developing the tingle, I called. His response then was do what your body feels best. So, I rested, no Pt or exercises for three days. I just walked. The next Pt we went light and that was OK. But the next Pt we did the original regiment and then it flaired up all over again. So, now the plan is 1 Pt land and 1 pT water (no brace). I am not sure I ccan handle the land PT anymore, if everytime is a set back. > > , > > You are smart to listen to your body. I wasn't clear, did you report > the tingling feeling to DrG following the PT and then he said to wear > your brace while doing PT? If not, and either way, maybe it would be > worth a call? > > Cam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 , I think the "rule" is, if it hurts, don't do it. A little simplistic, I know, but.... Bonnie [ ] Re: pt Hi Cam,I did call the dr office. The original order was PT with the brace. After developing the tingle, I called. His response then was do what your body feels best. So, I rested, no Pt or exercises for three days. I just walked. The next Pt we went light and that was OK. But the next Pt we did the original regiment and then it flaired up all over again. So, now the plan is 1 Pt land and 1 pT water (no brace). I am not sure I ccan handle the land PT anymore, if everytime is a set back.>> ,> > You are smart to listen to your body. I wasn't clear, did you report > the tingling feeling to DrG following the PT and then he said to wear > your brace while doing PT? If not, and either way, maybe it would be > worth a call?> > Cam> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Hi Cam, It is imperative that I address the lean now as the back is healing. I guess that is why I get so frustrated at the pinch nerve thing. After that I am stuck doing nothing for a few days. Maybe,if the therapist can not be more helpful tomorrow. I will switch therapist. Water therapy isn't until friday. > > , > > I hope you find the water therapy helpful. I know that the extra > bouancy of the water, as well as ther resistance that it offers can > be very valuable in slowly regaining strength. I just bobbed around > on my own until after 7 months when Dr Rand okayed a more formal > thing...but I don't think I was fighting the imbalance issues you > are. Does Dr Glazer say that if you don't address the lean now it is > a " now or never " proposition? > > I suspect as you get a little longer out from surgery you will find > you can do more without aggravating various spots. I do think my > healing twinges moved around, and to some small degree still > do...although I feel like I am on my last " tough " spot. > > For me, the experience has been that I had to gain a little muscle > strength, (and stretch) to counteract some of the healing...and I > think that is quite the trick...to try to figure out when you are > coming right up to that line where you are not hurting yourself. > > If the water therapy helps you gain enough strength to go back at > the land portion with more ability you may find you have a good > combination. Will your water therapy be with the same therapist? If > not, remember to bring a picture of your spine for your first > session...a picture is worth a thousand words! > > Take Care, Cam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Bonnie and all, I wish it was that simply. When I am doing exercises or am at PT. I don't feel numb (unless it is already aggrevated, then I take it real easy. If it is not numb and I exercise then later the numbness sets in. It is driving me crazy!!! I have actually called EBI who makes the brace to see if the brace is fitted correctly. > > > > , > > > > You are smart to listen to your body. I wasn't clear, did you report > > the tingling feeling to DrG following the PT and then he said to > wear > > your brace while doing PT? If not, and either way, maybe it would be > > worth a call? > > > > Cam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Val, Sounds like you're having a tough time of it. Hang in there! I did have some stiff muscles that had to adjust after surgery, but I doubt it was to the extent that you are dealing with. I hope you find a balance between stretching and ouch. Also, it was about eight weeks post-op when I started driving as well, but I STILL have some discomfort when shifting into gear (and I have an automatic). Some things are still just plain sore. Other times, I push myself too far and I know exactly why I have a particular pain. I hope you are allowing yourself to experience all the emotion and frustration that goes along with this. Be real - faking it tends to result in explosive emotion. But, I hope you are counting your blessings often as well. Hugs, kam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Kam, Mostly praying dilegently that this numbness will pass. > > Val, > > Sounds like you're having a tough time of it. Hang in there! I did > have some stiff muscles that had to adjust after surgery, but I > doubt it was to the extent that you are dealing with. I hope you > find a balance between stretching and ouch. > > Also, it was about eight weeks post-op when I started driving as > well, but I STILL have some discomfort when shifting into gear (and > I have an automatic). Some things are still just plain sore. Other > times, I push myself too far and I know exactly why I have a > particular pain. > > I hope you are allowing yourself to experience all the emotion and > frustration that goes along with this. Be real - faking it tends to > result in explosive emotion. But, I hope you are counting your > blessings often as well. > > Hugs, > > kam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 I do hope there is another PT location near you! It sounds like this one isn't working too well so far. I do think it is important to try PT -- even though it isn't likely to help in the long run, it can't help but be beneficial to find some exercises you can do. I am sorry to hear that what you have tried so far has been so painful. At least once you have done your course of PT, you have taken the first minimally invasive step and the doctors and insurance will be more willing to try the next step -- more than likely injections. They are used as a diagnostic tool almost as much as for their pain relief. I hope you find a good pain management doctor when it is time for the next step. > > Well, I went for my PT assessment today. They were not pleased that I > was not eager to lie flat on a hard table to " relax " , and thought > there should be NO problem lying on my stomach since I said it would > hurt to lay flat on my back. I told her I could lie down, but she > would have to pull me up and that it would hurt like heck. They have > already cut me from 3 times a week for 6 weeks to maybe twice a week > for 3 weeks. And they don't know why I'm not eager to try to ride a > bike? > > Did a few pelvic tilts today in a sitting position that brought me to > tears and put my back into spasm. Yeah, that is really going to help. > She does not want me using a walker since I am only 57. HUH? I'm not > even 55 yet! And wasn't too crazy about the cane, but didn't forbid > it. > > Kathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Hi Kathy, Where are you going? Maybe there is a supervisor or someone you can talk to and they can change the PT that works with you?txbluebelle <txbluebelle@...> wrote: Well, I went for my PT assessment today. They were not pleased that I was not eager to lie flat on a hard table to "relax", and thought there should be NO problem lying on my stomach since I said it would hurt to lay flat on my back. I told her I could lie down, but she would have to pull me up and that it would hurt like heck. They have already cut me from 3 times a week for 6 weeks to maybe twice a week for 3 weeks. And they don't know why I'm not eager to try to ride a bike? Did a few pelvic tilts today in a sitting position that brought me to tears and put my back into spasm. Yeah, that is really going to help. She does not want me using a walker since I am only 57. HUH? I'm not even 55 yet! And wasn't too crazy about the cane, but didn't forbid it. Kathy Check out the all-new beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Kathy, I hate to sound like a broken record....but is there a chance you can do your therapy in the water? I made a quick search under " aquatic therapy houston " and found at least 5 PT centers that have an aquatics therapy program. The only thing I could do before surgery was in the deep water so that I did not jar myself at all. Even shallow water wasn't great... It sounded like you had free rein to pick your PT center....maybe you should try another venue before you give up? Please don't get disouraged...just like searching for a doctor you may have to talk to a few before you find a good program and therapist that works for you. Take Care, Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Kathy, I don't know what to say other than that you clearly went to the wrong PT. This person is clearly unable to help you and in my opinion is likely to hurt you. If you have no choice but to go there as a hurdle to be cleared before seeing a surgeon who has a clue about flatback, the fewer sessions required the better. Be careful! Sharon [ ] PT Well, I went for my PT assessment today. They were not pleased that I was not eager to lie flat on a hard table to "relax", and thought there should be NO problem lying on my stomach since I said it would hurt to lay flat on my back. I told her I could lie down, but she would have to pull me up and that it would hurt like heck. They have already cut me from 3 times a week for 6 weeks to maybe twice a week for 3 weeks. And they don't know why I'm not eager to try to ride a bike? Did a few pelvic tilts today in a sitting position that brought me to tears and put my back into spasm. Yeah, that is really going to help. She does not want me using a walker since I am only 57. HUH? I'm not even 55 yet! And wasn't too crazy about the cane, but didn't forbid it. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Peggy, In a very general way, I have found that leaning forward is something that I have to always think about. I believe it is because of two things. For one thing I have to keep my hip flexors stretched. I guess that area was permanantly changed (adhesions?) from the years of flatback. The other thing that happens is the blanance/tipping forwad point in this permanantly fused torso. If anything takes my balance forward, I am cast forward again. It requires good strong back muscles to pull back to the " ballerina pose " . Thats one reason why I swim...it keeps all those spinal muscles strong! Hopefully you will slowly find that you gain strength and balance. Good luck with your PT. Take Care, Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I think my hip flexors and quads are tight as well, well, I know they are tight! I am now making a conscious effort to walk upright. Mark said he wasn't going to allow me on the treadmill without him cueing me to be upright. He doesn't want me to continue in the bad habit of leaning forward so he told me not even to walk for exercise right now. I had noticed I was leaning forward on the elliptical machine as well. Old habits are hard to break - harder than I realized. Peggy [ ] Re: PT Peggy,In a very general way, I have found that leaning forward is something that I have to always think about. I believe it is because of two things. For one thing I have to keep my hip flexors stretched. I guess that area was permanantly changed (adhesions?) from the years of flatback. The other thing that happens is the blanance/tipping forwad point in this permanantly fused torso. If anything takes my balance forward, I am cast forward again. It requires good strong back muscles to pull back to the "ballerina pose". Thats one reason why I swim...it keeps all those spinal muscles strong!Hopefully you will slowly find that you gain strength and balance. Good luck with your PT.Take Care, Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Jeanine, PT starts when and only when your surgeon clears it. Some want us walking immediately, some wait. Some want PT in water relatively soon, some wait. It really depends on your doctors assessment of your progress. Take it easy. SofTech, Inc. Quality Assurance Manager-Cadra Product 50 Composite Way Suite 401 978-458-3420 call Lowell, MA 01851 978-458-4096 fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 From: ljorichardson0912@... neck pain Subject: PT Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:46:48 -0400 Well I had my first PT after surgery 6 weeks ago.. I do have a real hard lump on the left side of my spine. I showed it to the surgeon 2 times and he didn't comment on it. It hurts all the time. The PT saw it today and she first thought it was a muscle after putting heat and ultersound on it and massaging it she couldn't see a difference in the size.. She is now thinking it isn't a muscle. Anyone have any idea what it might be, she said it was like on big soft tissue that moved all at once. IDEAS.. Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates\ 1_042009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 It's likely scar tissue honey. I have some pretty good sized lumps near my incision that are still here two+ years later. If only you could see what your body endures during a fusion surgery...you wouldn't be surprised at all! The only other thing would be a fluid pocket that collected from the fluids your body makes during the healing process and blood from the surgery. --- From: <ljorichardson0912@...> Subject: FW: PT spinal problems Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 7:26 PM From: ljorichardson0912@ hotmail.com painintheneck- back@groups .com Subject: PT Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:46:48 -0400 Well I had my first PT after surgery 6 weeks ago.. I do have a real hard lump on the left side of my spine. I showed it to the surgeon 2 times and he didn't comment on it. It hurts all the time. The PT saw it today and she first thought it was a muscle after putting heat and ultersound on it and massaging it she couldn't see a difference in the size.. She is now thinking it isn't a muscle. Anyone have any idea what it might be, she said it was like on big soft tissue that moved all at once. IDEAS.. Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive. com/RediscoverHo tmail?ocid= TXT_TAGLM_ WL_HM_Rediscover _Updates1_ 042009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I have just that - a soft lump in the muscles beside mt spine. It is a lipoma - a fat cell that has filled up with way too much fat. Totally harmless unless it is pressing on a nerve. O still have mine after 40 years. Had one on my scalp removed ages ago. A needle biopsy will find out what it is. > From: <ljorichardson0912@...> > > > Well I had my first PT after surgery 6 weeks ago.. I do have a real hard lump > on the left side of my spine. I showed it to the surgeon 2 times and he didn't > comment on it. It hurts all the time. The PT saw it today and she first > thought it was a muscle after putting heat and ultersound on it and massaging > it she couldn't see a difference in the size.. She is now thinking it isn't a > muscle. Anyone have any idea what it might be, she said it was like on big > soft tissue that moved all at once. IDEAS.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 If it appears just after surgery, it is probably not a lipoma. A lipoma will be circular and you can feel it's actual borders. Also, it is moveable, if you grasp the lipoma in your fingers, it should easily move back and forth. Also, with lipomas, with time they can actually grow into the surrounding muscle, so they are not totally harmless in that manner. Also, the only way to know for sure that something is a lipoma is to surgically excize it and send it to pathology. --- From: sparrow_oz_1 <sparrow_oz_1@...> Subject: Re: FW: PT spinal problems Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 9:26 PM I have just that - a soft lump in the muscles beside mt spine. It is a lipoma - a fat cell that has filled up with way too much fat. Totally harmless unless it is pressing on a nerve. O still have mine after 40 years. Had one on my scalp removed ages ago. A needle biopsy will find out what it is. > From: <ljorichardson0912@ hotmail.com> > > > Well I had my first PT after surgery 6 weeks ago.. I do have a real hard lump > on the left side of my spine. I showed it to the surgeon 2 times and he didn't > comment on it. It hurts all the time. The PT saw it today and she first > thought it was a muscle after putting heat and ultersound on it and massaging > it she couldn't see a difference in the size.. She is now thinking it isn't a > muscle. Anyone have any idea what it might be, she said it was like on big > soft tissue that moved all at once. IDEAS.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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