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Dear Elena

My heart cries out to you, especially these last couple of weeks.

I was bed and pain and cognitive bound before I started the oral SAM-e

two years ago. I had an effect with my very first dose of one 200 mg enteric

coated tab of SAM-e..... my dose was slowly increased and now I take between

800 and 1600 mg per day (and, sometimes I miss several days and am ok)

depending on how I am functioning.

On another list, it is said that TMG (trimethly glycine also known as

Betaine) should have the same effect as it is also a methyl donor.

So, Elena, there are two options to your injections. I know you are

in south america and getting things can be difficult for you. How can I help?

MJH

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> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 23:54:12 -0300

> From: " dominique " <solisima@...>

> Subject: RE: DSAMe

>

> Dear MJH

> thank you for your mails

>

> I am herxing so I am very weak and brain fogged,sorry for every mistake ,

> etc

>

> I am on SAMe ( but in injections ,it is a natural transmetilant, good for

> liver, pain and >DEPRESSION, I left Paxil and am on the injections)

> which dosage (oral intake do you have daily) I WANT TO QUIT THE SHOTS BUT

> THE DR SAID its better absorbed by shots. I take 100 mg per day in shots,

> which is your oral dose pls'

>

> DID YOU HAVE TO WAIT A LONG TIME TO SEE BENEFITS?

>

> thank you

> Elena

>

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Dear MJH

Thank you very much

I can get here also oral Same, because of the high doses required orally ,

here its very expensive,

where do you buy it and how much do you pay for it?,

I am trying to buy some meds and make like NIL, bring them by the post,

I have began a doxy empirical treatment and I need also bromelaim,

wobenzyme, acidophilus or other probiotics, dhea, nelatonin, etc

the problem, is now the war, I hope they will allow to pass meds,think you

so much for yr concern,

Elena

RE: DSAMe

> >

> > Dear MJH

> > thank you for your mails

> >

> > I am herxing so I am very weak and brain fogged,sorry for every mistake

,

> > etc

> >

> > I am on SAMe ( but in injections ,it is a natural transmetilant, good

for

> > liver, pain and >DEPRESSION, I left Paxil and am on the injections)

> > which dosage (oral intake do you have daily) I WANT TO QUIT THE SHOTS

BUT

> > THE DR SAID its better absorbed by shots. I take 100 mg per day in

shots,

> > which is your oral dose pls'

> >

> > DID YOU HAVE TO WAIT A LONG TIME TO SEE BENEFITS?

> >

> > thank you

> > Elena

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, Al. I take L-Carnitine but got dizzy when I tried the

Acetyl-L-Carnitine. Haven't tried it again but think I'll try a smaller

dose.

LaRue

>From: melillo3@...

Subject: Re: neuropathy-- nerve damage

I read that the supplement " Aceytl-L-Carnitine " is supposed to repair

nerve damage; from a book on L-Carnitine by Crayhon.

Al

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Hi Leslye:), Thnx for the kind words. Sometimes I hit the mark and

sometimes I'm sooooo far off the mark that it hits me! lol

All in all, I'm a thinker and from all my posts, right or wrong, left

or right, top or bottom, I hope they stir its readers to think for

themselves and not because their click of friends told them what to

believe, and then to possibly see another angle to the current isssue

at hand. An angle they may have never thought of or even thought

existed.

luv, grady

" Thinking is the best way to travel. " Pinder of the Moody

Blues

> Very well said, Grady. You really got to the crux of this whole

issue.

Leslye

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I've got Hashi's too - what books have you ordered a few books about folks that

cured Hashimoto???? 

Would be interested to find out.  I am researching so I can get this goiter

smaller and feel better!

Just finished reading Thyroid Power - good book!

Thanks guys!

Jodi Seidler

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:09 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Digest Number 2037

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The book is " How I reversed my hashimoto's thyroiditis

hypothyroidism " by Dirgo.

The essence of the book is a better diet (food &

specific supplements) to support the body's immune

system to rid of the problem plaguing the thyroid.

It took me just about an hour to read the book, short

one. Most of the stuff is already discussed on this

forum but there were a few things I was not aware of

that the author seems to believe helps in the

recovery.

One is to stay away from simple and complex carbs, for

that matter all carbs. A diet rich in protein and fats

will regulate evenly the demand for insulin by the

body thereby minimizing the stress to the body form

the insulin swings carbs tend to create.

Two, regular exercise of some sort. Now that for me is

easier to type it on the keyboard than to actualy do

it. I will do once a week then twice a week to

graduate to 3 to 4 times a week. I'll keep y'all up to

date on that one.

Three, CoQ10 is said to enhance the Krebb's cycle and

therefore the immune system.

Four, rest as much as you can.

Fifth, drink lots of good clean purified water. If you

can afford it, reverse osmosis or distilled water.

Sixth, Vitamin E, Garlic

Seventh, Blue Green algae like Spirulina.

Eigth, Good digestive enzymes so that the food you eat

is digested properly. The more raw foods you eat the

better. Myself I drink about 6 to 8 cups of Kefir

daily, along with raw milk and raw eggs & brewer's

yeast.

Lately my diet has been mostly liquid to further

decrease the stress I impose to the body to give more

energy to the immune system. I can tell you that I

have more energy more frequently. I WILL BEAT THIS

HASHIMOTO!!!!! It is just a matter of time.

The summation of the book above is a very shortened

one and really does not do justice to the book. I got

mine at Amazon.com at about $15 with free shipping

since I ordered total over $25.

BTW, also it is recomended to record and plot your

temperature daily to get feedback on how you are

doing. I have been doing so for about 2 weeks so far.

When I run a 10 day average curve to it, I can already

see an improvement. Usualy at this time of the

morning, my fingers are still cold and they are not

right now. I now and feel that I'm making progress and

I thank you all for being part of that success and

support.

Mike

--- Jodi Seidler <jodi@...> wrote:

>

> I've got Hashi's too - what books have you ordered

> a few books about folks that cured Hashimoto???? 

> Would be interested to find out.  I am researching

> so I can get this goiter smaller and feel better!

> Just finished reading Thyroid Power - good book!

> Thanks guys!

> Jodi Seidler

>

> ----------------------------------------

> From: hypothyroidism

> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:09 PM

> hypothyroidism

> Subject: Digest Number 2037

>

>

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Good for you Mike, I think the positive attitude you have is one of the best

things you can do.. I'm trying to do that too. Keep us/me posted ,

Bev

Mike <mikeroyusa@...> wrote:

The book is " How I reversed my hashimoto's thyroiditis

hypothyroidism " by Dirgo.

The essence of the book is a better diet (food &

specific supplements) to support the body's immune

system to rid of the problem plaguing the thyroid.

It took me just about an hour to read the book, short

one. Most of the stuff is already discussed on this

forum but there were a few things I was not aware of

that the author seems to believe helps in the

recovery.

One is to stay away from simple and complex carbs, for

that matter all carbs. A diet rich in protein and fats

will regulate evenly the demand for insulin by the

body thereby minimizing the stress to the body form

the insulin swings carbs tend to create.

Two, regular exercise of some sort. Now that for me is

easier to type it on the keyboard than to actualy do

it. I will do once a week then twice a week to

graduate to 3 to 4 times a week. I'll keep y'all up to

date on that one.

Three, CoQ10 is said to enhance the Krebb's cycle and

therefore the immune system.

Four, rest as much as you can.

Fifth, drink lots of good clean purified water. If you

can afford it, reverse osmosis or distilled water.

Sixth, Vitamin E, Garlic

Seventh, Blue Green algae like Spirulina.

Eigth, Good digestive enzymes so that the food you eat

is digested properly. The more raw foods you eat the

better. Myself I drink about 6 to 8 cups of Kefir

daily, along with raw milk and raw eggs & brewer's

yeast.

Lately my diet has been mostly liquid to further

decrease the stress I impose to the body to give more

energy to the immune system. I can tell you that I

have more energy more frequently. I WILL BEAT THIS

HASHIMOTO!!!!! It is just a matter of time.

The summation of the book above is a very shortened

one and really does not do justice to the book. I got

mine at Amazon.com at about $15 with free shipping

since I ordered total over $25.

BTW, also it is recomended to record and plot your

temperature daily to get feedback on how you are

doing. I have been doing so for about 2 weeks so far.

When I run a 10 day average curve to it, I can already

see an improvement. Usualy at this time of the

morning, my fingers are still cold and they are not

right now. I now and feel that I'm making progress and

I thank you all for being part of that success and

support.

Mike

--- Jodi Seidler <jodi@...> wrote:

>

> I've got Hashi's too - what books have you ordered

> a few books about folks that cured Hashimoto????

> Would be interested to find out. I am researching

> so I can get this goiter smaller and feel better!

> Just finished reading Thyroid Power - good book!

> Thanks guys!

> Jodi Seidler

>

> ----------------------------------------

> From: hypothyroidism

> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:09 PM

> hypothyroidism

> Subject: Digest Number 2037

>

>

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I'll definitely have to order all 5 books on audiotape.

, this is Marcy, your friendly neighborhood librarian, weighing in here.

You are in for a treat. Jim Dale, the man who narrates the Harry Potter tapes,

is one of the seven wonders of the world. Listening to the series is a totally

different experience from reading them to oneself. The tapes are absolutely

superb. Not only is his voice crystal clear, even with the British accent, but

you will soon find yourself able to recognize which character is speaking. How

he does it I cannot imagine, but he is in the Guinness Book of World Records for

the most recent tape - over a hundred distinct different character voices. For

anyone who has reached the point of being able to understand speech, I highly

recommend this wonderful audio experience. As far as I am concerned, being able

to listen to the HP tapes is a perfectly valid reason for getting a CI!

Hugs,

Marcy

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I'll definitely have to order all 5 books on audiotape.

, this is Marcy, your friendly neighborhood librarian, weighing in here.

You are in for a treat. Jim Dale, the man who narrates the Harry Potter tapes,

is one of the seven wonders of the world. Listening to the series is a totally

different experience from reading them to oneself. The tapes are absolutely

superb. Not only is his voice crystal clear, even with the British accent, but

you will soon find yourself able to recognize which character is speaking. How

he does it I cannot imagine, but he is in the Guinness Book of World Records for

the most recent tape - over a hundred distinct different character voices. For

anyone who has reached the point of being able to understand speech, I highly

recommend this wonderful audio experience. As far as I am concerned, being able

to listen to the HP tapes is a perfectly valid reason for getting a CI!

Hugs,

Marcy

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Marcy,

When I was growing up I used to *love* listening to talking books! I used to

sit for hours on end listening to all kinds of magazines and books.

Sometimes I read books 2 or 3 times because I was memorized by the sound of

a person's voice and how they read text aloud.

Unfortunately as my hearing loss worsened, talking books put me to sleep

because I had such a difficult time hearing and understanding them. I'm

ashamed to admit that I haven't purchased any talking books as of yet.

I used to receive talking books through the National Library Service for the

Blind, but they stopped sending them to me after I lost my hearing. I really

should start ordering them again -- and get myself to a local bookstore

where I can purchase audio books.

Being able to hear different narration and characters would be a real

delight for me because the books recorded for NLS were only read by one

person. I guess I've become so used to reading books in Braille for the past

10 years that I haven't taken the initiative to order or purchase audio

books. One thing I know I'd love to hear is King narrating one of

his books. LOL!

You mentioned that the narrator of Harry Potter has a British accent. I'm

fascinated by British accents. I'm not sure why. Someone I know in the blind

community lives in the UK and has a similar accent. His voice is so relaxing

to listen to. It's funny how accents used to be a real problem with hearing

aids, but with a CI they are a joy to hear!

What you described about a narrator giving each character it's own distinct

voice/personality is fascinating and something I *know* I'd enjoy! I think

it's time for me to make a trip to the local bookstore so I can start

reading Harry Potter and all of the other titles I've missed out on over the

years! <smile>

Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

Deafblind/Postlingual

BTE hearing aid user 20 years

Severe-profound hearing loss 10 years

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" I was memorized by the sound of

a person's voice... "

Is this some kind of Harry Potter charm or spell?

(she meant mesmerized you dork! now go get her a super large orange mocha

this instant!)

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

Just think how much deeper the ocean would be if sponges didn't live there.

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

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http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ NEW Home Page!

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You can blame that mistake on OE's spell checker. LOL! From now on I think

I'll start editing messages on my own -- without the " help " of Bill Gates.

<grin>

Speaking of computers, I think it's time for me to turn mine off so I can

enjoy a nice walk outdoors. :)

(Note: This message was edited without the help of Bill Gates.)

Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

Deafblind/Postlingual

BTE hearing aid user 20 years

Severe-profound hearing loss 10 years

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Its awright . You know I have to tease yuh. How else are you going

to justify getting gallons of mochas out of me? LOL

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his

tongue.

-- Anonymous

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ NEW Home Page!

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Producing coconut oil by fermentation method does not

necessarily need to be heated. Fermentation method

has several variations and unique " techniques " of

processing, i.e., one method chills the milk then let

it ferment. Careful processing does not need the oil

to be heated when it separates.

The easiest traditional method is heating the milk to

extract the oil at extremely low heat like 70-80F but

it takes more than 8 hours for the oil to come out.

And this was done using just one nut. This method

has no moisture at all and the oil does not change and

lasts for years. Clear, no smell, no color, possibly

no vitamin e, but it is a very very good oil.

There is another traditional/fermentation method

wherein the milk is fermented and when the oil appears

on top it is harvested and bottled. This method

sometimes contain moisture. Some would heat their oil

at very low temps to remove the moisture before

bottling or run it through a centrifuge machine.

Heated oil has coconut taste. Color depends on heat

setting, higher heat gives yellow color.

The key to a successful almost no moisture vco is

" technique " and lots of perseverance and patience and

it is not easy.

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how can I make coconut oil at home from coconuts bought at the grocery store

,and is it practical?

I get Green label coconut oil from Tropical Traditions ,It is very good

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