Carbohydrates and Thryoid Metabolism

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thighmaster@... writes:

> http://www.moonlighthealth.com/library2.asp?A=59

Thanks for sharing this, Celeste. This explains a lot to me about why I was

unable to lose weight on high protein diets. They would work for about three

weeks then, I would become a crazy, carb craving individual. When I went to

Weight WAtchers they helped me figure out what percentage of carbs/proteins I

need in each meal. When I get 'em balanced like that I feel great! And I

lose weight if I dont' go over my WW points!

in LA

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I found an interesting article today which might help explain why

someone who is hypothyroid might not do very well on a diet that

overly restricts carbohydrates. According to the article T3

production is heavily dependent on glucose.

The article states (in part):

" The thyroid gland secretes about 3 parts of thyroxin to one part of

triiodothyronine, and this allows the liver to regulate thyroid

function, by converting more of the T4 to the active T3 when there is

an abundance of energy. Glucose is essential for the conversion, so

during fasting there is a sharp decrease in metabolic rate, and in

experiments, 200 or 300 calories of carbohydrates can added to the

diet without causing fat storage.

" When the liver is the main cause of hypothyroidism, your temperature

(and especially the temperature of your nose, hands and feet) will

fall when you are hungry, and will rise when you eat carbohydrates.

If a hypothyroid person has a very slow pulse, and feels lethargic,

it seems that there is little adrenalin; in this case, a feeding of

carbohydrate is likely to increase both the pulse rate and the

temperature, as the liver is permitted to form the active T3 hormone. "

The entire article can be found at

http://www.moonlighthealth.com/library2.asp?A=59 . Meanwhile I will

continue to very much enjoy (but not overdo) my carbohydrates.

Much aloha,

Celeste

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yeah, and another bad thing about eating a lot of protein and little

carbohydrates is that you will tend to feel bored and empty. They say

protein fills up your stomach but not really you need both foods to feel

satisfied, if you eat a lot of protein and less carbs you will feel weird

like nervous the whole day

From: " a1thighmaster " <thighmaster@...>

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Subject: Carbohydrates and Thryoid Metabolism

Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 01:52:44 -0000

I found an interesting article today which might help explain why

someone who is hypothyroid might not do very well on a diet that

overly restricts carbohydrates. According to the article T3

production is heavily dependent on glucose.

The article states (in part):

" The thyroid gland secretes about 3 parts of thyroxin to one part of

triiodothyronine, and this allows the liver to regulate thyroid

function, by converting more of the T4 to the active T3 when there is

an abundance of energy. Glucose is essential for the conversion, so

during fasting there is a sharp decrease in metabolic rate, and in

experiments, 200 or 300 calories of carbohydrates can added to the

diet without causing fat storage.

" When the liver is the main cause of hypothyroidism, your temperature

(and especially the temperature of your nose, hands and feet) will

fall when you are hungry, and will rise when you eat carbohydrates.

If a hypothyroid person has a very slow pulse, and feels lethargic,

it seems that there is little adrenalin; in this case, a feeding of

carbohydrate is likely to increase both the pulse rate and the

temperature, as the liver is permitted to form the active T3 hormone. "

The entire article can be found at

http://www.moonlighthealth.com/library2.asp?A=59 . Meanwhile I will

continue to very much enjoy (but not overdo) my carbohydrates.

Much aloha,

Celeste

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That must be your reaction to the diet because I've done low-

carb twice in my life ( Atkins and Protein Power) and I NEVER felt

jittery and empty. In fact, most of the time I forgot to eat I was so

full. The ONLY time I've ever felt jittery was when my dosage of

Levoxyl was way too high and I started to get hyper instead of hypo.

The satisfaction you speak of has to do exactly with the carb craving

that people get.

I'm getting ready to go back on Low-glycemic foods again as I have

put back on ALL of the weight I had lost due to to excercise and

diet.

ALL: Be aware on Shomon's page, she advocates low-carb dieting

for hypothyroid sufferers. If ANYONE needs to know this, it's her.

Everywhere I look on her page, it always takes me back to low-carb

dieting.

NOTE: I'm not a fan of low-carb dieting for long periods. I believe

you can use it for a couple of weeks JUST to give a jolt to your

system. After you've re-taught your body that it isn't as hungry as

it once was, then start adding in low-glycemic fruits and vegetables

and high fiber breads.

Alright, I've pontificated enough....LOL

>

>

> yeah, and another bad thing about eating a lot of protein and

little

> carbohydrates is that you will tend to feel bored and empty. They

say

> protein fills up your stomach but not really you need both foods

to feel

> satisfied, if you eat a lot of protein and less carbs you will feel

weird

> like nervous the whole day

>

>

>

>

> From: " a1thighmaster " <thighmaster@h...>

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> hypothyroidism@y...

> Subject: Carbohydrates and Thryoid Metabolism

> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 01:52:44 -0000

>

> I found an interesting article today which might help explain why

> someone who is hypothyroid might not do very well on a diet that

> overly restricts carbohydrates. According to the article T3

> production is heavily dependent on glucose.

>

> The article states (in part):

> " The thyroid gland secretes about 3 parts of thyroxin to one part of

> triiodothyronine, and this allows the liver to regulate thyroid

> function, by converting more of the T4 to the active T3 when there

is

> an abundance of energy. Glucose is essential for the conversion, so

> during fasting there is a sharp decrease in metabolic rate, and in

> experiments, 200 or 300 calories of carbohydrates can added to the

> diet without causing fat storage.

>

> " When the liver is the main cause of hypothyroidism, your

temperature

> (and especially the temperature of your nose, hands and feet) will

> fall when you are hungry, and will rise when you eat carbohydrates.

> If a hypothyroid person has a very slow pulse, and feels lethargic,

> it seems that there is little adrenalin; in this case, a feeding of

> carbohydrate is likely to increase both the pulse rate and the

> temperature, as the liver is permitted to form the active T3

hormone. "

>

> The entire article can be found at

> http://www.moonlighthealth.com/library2.asp?A=59 . Meanwhile I will

> continue to very much enjoy (but not overdo) my carbohydrates.

>

> Much aloha,

> Celeste

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Celeste,

Anyone who can run around volcanoes the way you do is

certainly entitled to a few extra carbs.

I manage a 2 to 4 mile walk (at 4 miles per hour) 3 or

4 times a week. But then I'll be 74 years old this

August. Out here in the desert I can make a 4 mile

loop and come near no houses and see nobody. Love it.

Ron

--- a1thighmaster <thighmaster@...> wrote:

>

> The entire article can be found at

> http://www.moonlighthealth.com/library2.asp?A=59 .

> Meanwhile I will

> continue to very much enjoy (but not overdo) my

> carbohydrates.

>

> Much aloha,

> Celeste

>

>

>

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Good for you Ron!!!

I hope I will be like that at your age.....

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From: Ron <ron_the_desert_rat@...>

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Subject: Re: Carbohydrates and Thryoid Metabolism

Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:27:41 -0700 (PDT)

Celeste,

Anyone who can run around volcanoes the way you do is

certainly entitled to a few extra carbs.

I manage a 2 to 4 mile walk (at 4 miles per hour) 3 or

4 times a week. But then I'll be 74 years old this

August. Out here in the desert I can make a 4 mile

loop and come near no houses and see nobody. Love it.

Ron

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>I found an interesting article today which might help explain why

>someone who is hypothyroid might not do very well on a diet that

>overly restricts carbohydrates. According to the article T3

>production is heavily dependent on glucose.

Celeste,

This is very interesting, and may help explain why I not only

crave carbohydrates but I feel like I'm unable to function without lots of

them.

As you know, I have recently been modifying my thyroid meds and my

temperature this morning is 98.0 for the first time in 20 years. For the

last two days, I have eaten about half the normal carbohydrates that I eat

in a normal day. I was wondering if it had anything to do with the thyroid.

Thanks for the info.

Katrina.

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I'm also only 15 lbs. overweight. Just under 6' tall

and in the process of dieting from 188 to 170.

Actually my bathroom scales took a dramatic drop this

morning..........from about waist high.

Ron

--- Pierce <karlynn17@...> wrote:

> Good for you Ron!!!

> I hope I will be like that at your age.....

>

>

>

>

> ----Original Message Follows----

> From: Ron <ron_the_desert_rat@...>

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> Subject: Re: Carbohydrates and

> Thryoid Metabolism

> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:27:41 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Celeste,

> Anyone who can run around volcanoes the way you do

> is

> certainly entitled to a few extra carbs.

> I manage a 2 to 4 mile walk (at 4 miles per hour) 3

> or

> 4 times a week. But then I'll be 74 years old this

> August. Out here in the desert I can make a 4 mile

> loop and come near no houses and see nobody. Love

> it.

>

> Ron

>

>

>

>

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Ron,

I think exercise is pretty much an individual thing, especially after

having worked for a while as a personal fitness trainer. (I tried to

change careers, but my friends in information technology kept luring

me back.) I began showing strong athletic tendencies at a very early

age. I've always been extraordinarily strong so, naturally, I love a

challenge. I do, however, strongly believe in each person exercising

according to their capabilities and trying to make improvements at a

comfortable pace.

I love Arizona. My husband was stationed at Ft. Huachuca for 3 years

and it's a wonderful place. If I ever became disenchanted with Hawaii

I would probably move to Sierra Vista. I was in sdale for a week

at the beginning of this month and I very much enjoyed it there, too.

Much aloha,

Celeste

Ron wrote:

> Celeste,

> Anyone who can run around volcanoes the way you do is

> certainly entitled to a few extra carbs.

> I manage a 2 to 4 mile walk (at 4 miles per hour) 3 or

> 4 times a week. But then I'll be 74 years old this

> August. Out here in the desert I can make a 4 mile

> loop and come near no houses and see nobody. Love it.

>

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Katrina,

I'm glad to hear that you are making progress . . . especially after

20 years! Congratulations.

I think it is important to eat enough carbs, but also important not

to overdo it. Carbohydrate tolerance is very much related to the

amount of energy a person expends. I think that a very active person

can get away with eating a lot more carbs, but still should be

careful not to overdo and not to neglect proteins and essential fats.

Much aloha,

Celeste

Katrina wrote:

> This is very interesting, and may help explain why I not

only

> crave carbohydrates but I feel like I'm unable to function without

lots of

> them.

>

> As you know, I have recently been modifying my thyroid

meds and my

> temperature this morning is 98.0 for the first time in 20 years.

For the

> last two days, I have eaten about half the normal carbohydrates

that I eat

> in a normal day. I was wondering if it had anything to do with the

thyroid.

>

>

> >I found an interesting article today which might help explain why

> >someone who is hypothyroid might not do very well on a diet that

> >overly restricts carbohydrates. According to the article T3

> >production is heavily dependent on glucose.

>