Re: Re: Flatback Confirmed

[Guest guest]

Hi Tami...

I’m wondering how the L3-L4 disc can be damaged if it’s fused. Maybe the fusion never took???

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On 10/26/06 9:05 AM, " tlsun2462 " <tamisun@...> wrote:

I'm sorry , I just re-read that and even I'm confused!! In 1977

I

had my scoliosis surgery and was fused from T7 to L4. In 1988 I had

to

have another surgery due to more disk/vert damage below the fusion

and he fused from

L3 to sacrum (I thought he fused from L4 to sacrum). He also removed

my HR and put in pedicle screws. Now the L3/L4 is

damaged and causing me pain. I saw a neurosurgeon (Dr. Adler) who

ordered all the tests (MRI, Myelogram etc.) and he never mentioned

this

to me.

I think that makes more sense but let me know if I'm just loony from

the oxycodone I'm taking right now.

Tami

> > He told me I am not fused from L-4 to L-3! It appears that Dr.

> > Waldram (who took out my Harrington Rod and fused me and put in

> > pedicle screws in 1988) skipped this and fused only where the pain

> > was coming from (L-3 to Sacrum). I was fused from T-7 to L-4 in

1977

> > when I had my first surgery and Harrington rod put in. He said

this

> > is where my sciatic pain was coming from since it has been taking

all

> > the strain all these years. I wonder why Dr. Adler, the

neurosurgeon

> > I saw, did not mention this.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tami...

That doesn’t make any sense to me. Since there are 3 discs and 2 vertebrae between L3 and the sacrum, there’s really no way to fuse L3 to the sacrum without fusing L3-L4, L4-L5, and L5-S1.

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On 10/27/06 10:03 AM, " tlsun2462 " <tamisun@...> wrote:

Hi ,

L3/L4 is the only place I'm not fused in my lumbar spine. For some

reason Dr. Waldram skipped over that one and fused L3 to sacrum.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

Tami

> >>> > > He told me I am not fused from L-4 to L-3! It appears that

Dr.

> >>> > > Waldram (who took out my Harrington Rod and fused me and

put in

> >>> > > pedicle screws in 1988) skipped this and fused only where

the pain

> >>> > > was coming from (L-3 to Sacrum). I was fused from T-7 to L-

4 in

> > 1977

> >>> > > when I had my first surgery and Harrington rod put in. He

said

> > this

> >>> > > is where my sciatic pain was coming from since it has been

taking

> > all

> >>> > > the strain all these years. I wonder why Dr. Adler, the

> > neurosurgeon

> >>> > > I saw, did not mention this.

> >>> > >

> >> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ...

I’ve actually heard of people who have two separate fusion masses (e.g. T3-T12 and L5-S1). However, since Tami is saying they fused L3 to the sacrum has to include the vertebrae and discs in between. I guess theoretically, they could fuse L3 to the sacrum with rods, but the rods would almost certainly break.

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On 10/27/06 11:41 AM, " " <Dawg@...> wrote:

This is correct Tami - if you had your original surgery in 1977 and

you were fused from T7 to L4, then again in 1988 you were fused from

L3 to the sacrum.....then you are totally fused from T-7 all the way

to the sacrum hun. There is no way you could even HAVE any unfused

vertebra to cause you problems! It may be that you are having some

other sort of problem though?

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> >>>>>>> > >>> > > He told me I am not fused from L-4 to L-3! It

appears that

> > Dr.

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > Waldram (who took out my Harrington Rod and

fused me and

> > put in

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > pedicle screws in 1988) skipped this and fused

only where

> > the pain

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > was coming from (L-3 to Sacrum). I was fused

from T-7 to L-

> > 4 in

> >>> > > 1977

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > when I had my first surgery and Harrington rod

put in. He

> > said

> >>> > > this

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > is where my sciatic pain was coming from since

it has been

> > taking

> >>> > > all

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > the strain all these years. I wonder why Dr.

Adler, the

> >>> > > neurosurgeon

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > I saw, did not mention this.

> >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> >>>>> > >> >

> >> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Tami,

L4 is between L3 and the sacrum. If you were fused from L3 to the sacrum, that would have to include L4.

Bonnie

[ ] Re: Flatback Confirmed

This is correct Tami - if you had your original surgery in 1977 and you were fused from T7 to L4, then again in 1988 you were fused from L3 to the sacrum.....then you are totally fused from T-7 all the way to the sacrum hun. There is no way you could even HAVE any unfused vertebra to cause you problems! It may be that you are having some other sort of problem though?~~> >>>>>>> > >>> > > He told me I am not fused from L-4 to L-3! It appears that> > Dr.> >>>>>>> > >>> > > Waldram (who took out my Harrington Rod and fused me and> > put in> >>>>>>> > >>> > > pedicle screws in 1988) skipped this and fused only where> > the pain> >>>>>>> > >>> > > was coming from (L-3 to Sacrum). I was fused from T-7 to L-> > 4 in> >>> > > 1977> >>>>>>> > >>> > > when I had my first surgery and Harrington rod put in. He> > said> >>> > > this> >>>>>>> > >>> > > is where my sciatic pain was coming from since it has been> > taking> >>> > > all> >>>>>>> > >>> > > the strain all these years. I wonder why Dr. Adler, the> >>> > > neurosurgeon> >>>>>>> > >>> > > I saw, did not mention this.> >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> > > >>