Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Hi , I'm sorry you have to deal with this.. I will be hoping for the best for you!! Thanks again for being there for me... Take care, Ken. Blackledge <scottb2@...> wrote: I've been having lower back pain for awhile now and have just about completed two months of PT. This has helped alot but has not completely solved the problem. The therapist believes the problem to be in the SI joint area which was confirmed by my ortho.My xrays look good with no arthritis. The fusion looks good also. The doctor believes my issue to be "transfer pain" (the SI joints are now taking the stress that was formerly taken by my unfused spine). He's given me Mobic which I think is an anti-inflamatory. We'll see how well that works.On one hand, I'm glad that I have a treatment plan. On the other, I don't like the feeling my back is giving me until that stuff starts to work.If the Mobic doesn't work, its a cortisone shot for me and I'll see how well that works. Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 , I'm sorry about the SI joints. I hope you're able to get control of the pain. Sharon [ ] 's SI joints > I've been having lower back pain for awhile now and have just about > completed two months of PT. This has helped alot but has not > completely solved the problem. The therapist believes the problem to > be in the SI joint area which was confirmed by my ortho. > > My xrays look good with no arthritis. The fusion looks good also. > The doctor believes my issue to be " transfer pain " (the SI joints are > now taking the stress that was formerly taken by my unfused spine). > He's given me Mobic which I think is an anti-inflamatory. We'll see > how well that works. > > On one hand, I'm glad that I have a treatment plan. On the other, I > don't like the feeling my back is giving me until that stuff starts to > work. > > If the Mobic doesn't work, its a cortisone shot for me and I'll see > how well that works. > > > > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 HI , I have been dealing with the same SI Joint problem. Remember how they said that after revision to sacrum, the next "to go" would be the knees and hips? The "transfer" " of stress from the unfused spine. They forgot to tell us, or at least me, that in some cases, the first to go are the SI Joints. Then again, my revision surgery was over eight years ago and it could be that then they didn't know how much stress would transfer to the SI Joints. We are still guinea pigs. I'm not complaining: by the time I had my first surgery, my curves were 70/55 and still going. I had no choice but to act, and the docs have done the best they could for me. But my SI Joints are now a big issue. Very painful. Is interfering with my life. Tried one pain doc and it took me awhile to realize he was an idiot. I just started with a new pain doc. I can't take an anti-inflammatory due to stomach issues after being on anti-inflammatories for nine years. So the plan, agreed to by my local ortho, and Dr. Boachie (my revision surgeon) is for an SI Joint shot on the right side first. If that works, do one for the left side. Assuming that works, do denervation. Medial Branch block is probably out for me because the fusion is in the way. My right side SI Joint shot is scheduled for Monday. I'll let you know what happens. That doc switched me from Paxil to Cymbalta two weeks ago After we know the effect of the SI Joint shot, he is going to switch me from Percoset to Oxycontin. (Percoset was due to other, idiot doc). I also take Ambien to sleep. I also take Neurontin and eventually we will determine if that's still working after 8 years and, if not, switch to something else. Sounds complicated, but it's not. Just trying the shots and changing to more appropriate drugs. It all takes time to get the whole thing done - can't change more than one thing at a time. If you do, you don't know what works and what doesn't. Don't let any of this scare any of you. Our futures are not guaranteed. I think we all know that. But the docs have done the best they can with the knowledge they have. I will never give up! My daughter is here visiting for the weekend so I'm going to be busy till after the injection Monday. She's annoyed with me for taking time away from her to write this email. She 37 years old. Grrrrr. I'll let you all know how I fare with the shot. If I have time, I'll check email before Monday afternoon, but I might not be able to. . Hang in. I really do hate to say this, but I'm glad I'm not alone. And I'm glad that your docs and mine are thinking to do the same things. That's comforting. Bonnie [ ] 's SI joints I've been having lower back pain for awhile now and have just about completed two months of PT. This has helped alot but has not completely solved the problem. The therapist believes the problem to be in the SI joint area which was confirmed by my ortho.My xrays look good with no arthritis. The fusion looks good also. The doctor believes my issue to be "transfer pain" (the SI joints are now taking the stress that was formerly taken by my unfused spine). He's given me Mobic which I think is an anti-inflamatory. We'll see how well that works.On one hand, I'm glad that I have a treatment plan. On the other, I don't like the feeling my back is giving me until that stuff starts to work.If the Mobic doesn't work, its a cortisone shot for me and I'll see how well that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Hi , Forgot: SI Joint deterioration was found by CT scan. Local ortho said he could fuse the SI Joints to my pelvis, but then I "really" wouldn't be able to move. Back to daughter. Bonnie [ ] 's SI joints I've been having lower back pain for awhile now and have just about completed two months of PT. This has helped alot but has not completely solved the problem. The therapist believes the problem to be in the SI joint area which was confirmed by my ortho.My xrays look good with no arthritis. The fusion looks good also. The doctor believes my issue to be "transfer pain" (the SI joints are now taking the stress that was formerly taken by my unfused spine). He's given me Mobic which I think is an anti-inflamatory. We'll see how well that works.On one hand, I'm glad that I have a treatment plan. On the other, I don't like the feeling my back is giving me until that stuff starts to work.If the Mobic doesn't work, its a cortisone shot for me and I'll see how well that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Thanks for your note, Bonnie (and Sharon, and Ken, and others). If you've been around the various groups for awhile, you know I try to add a bit of humor to some (many?) of my messages. Every once in awhile I just don't feel like joking. My wife kind of kids me, saying that its about time for something else to need fixing (I'm kind of averaging a set of problems about every three or so years - can't quite set my calendar to it, but its more true than not). Words of wisdom: You know you've had a good physical when you leave without any specialist referrals :-) I think I deal well with problems when I know the cause; I should avoid action X because it causes pain. The thing I don't deal with well is stuff that hurts, well, just because. The SI joints seem to be " one of those " things. I stop doing stuff and it still aches. Last night was a great example. Add to it a family doc that really doesn't want to prescribe narcotics (even though Darvocet and Mobic and... don't work nearly as well) and an ortho that would rather not be prescribing them either, I get frustrated. I have no problem asking for a referral to a pain management doctor and will probably do so as soon as I give the current plan a chance to work (even though I don't really trust it). The ortho says that, in most cases, the SI joints fuse themselves (and that he hasn't done an SI fusion for 10 years). That's all well and good, but now what? How successful was my ortho when someone like Rand won't touch an SI fusion? What does it feel like when your SI joints are fused? What will my gait be like if they do choose to fuse? Will they hurt then? What will hurt after that? What happens if they don't fuse by themselves? Should I start planning for this stuff? How can I plan when I don't know what's going to happen? (I do like a well-ordered life, don't I?) I don't want another surgery. I don't want the recovery. I don't (based on how I reacted to the last two fusions) want the depression. I don't want yet another set of things I can't do. I don't want to give up more foods because an energetic turtle is getting more exercise (burning more calories) than I am. On the other hand, if I do have to have another procedure, I know I can get through it with the help of my family, both personal and extended (you guys). P.S. I don't like to complain in public. Hopefully this will be the last one in quite awhile. > > HI , > > I have been dealing with the same SI Joint problem. Remember how they said that after revision to sacrum, the next " to go " would be the knees and hips? The " transfer " " of stress from the unfused spine. They forgot to tell us, or at least me, that in some cases, the first to go are the SI Joints. Then again, my revision surgery was over eight years ago and it could be that then they didn't know how much stress would transfer to the SI Joints. We are still guinea pigs. I'm not complaining: by the time I had my first surgery, my curves were 70/55 and still going. I had no choice but to act, and the docs have done the best they could for me. But my SI Joints are now a big issue. Very painful. Is interfering with my life. Tried one pain doc and it took me awhile to realize he was an idiot. I just started with a new pain doc. I can't take an anti- inflammatory due to stomach issues after being on anti- inflammatories for nine years. So the plan, agreed to by my local ortho, and Dr. Boachie (my revision surgeon) is for an SI Joint shot on the right side first. If that works, do one for the left side. Assuming that works, do denervation. Medial Branch block is probably out for me because the fusion is in the way. My right side SI Joint shot is scheduled for Monday. I'll let you know what happens. That doc switched me from Paxil to Cymbalta two weeks ago After we know the effect of the SI Joint shot, he is going to switch me from Percoset to Oxycontin. (Percoset was due to other, idiot doc). I also take Ambien to sleep. I also take Neurontin and eventually we will determine if that's still working after 8 years and, if not, switch to something else. Sounds complicated, but it's not. Just trying the shots and changing to more appropriate drugs. It all takes time to get the whole thing done - can't change more than one thing at a time. If you do, you don't know what works and what doesn't. > > Don't let any of this scare any of you. Our futures are not guaranteed. I think we all know that. But the docs have done the best they can with the knowledge they have. I will never give up! > > My daughter is here visiting for the weekend so I'm going to be busy till after the injection Monday. She's annoyed with me for taking time away from her to write this email. She 37 years old. Grrrrr. > > I'll let you all know how I fare with the shot. If I have time, I'll check email before Monday afternoon, but I might not be able to. > > . Hang in. I really do hate to say this, but I'm glad I'm not alone. And I'm glad that your docs and mine are thinking to do the same things. That's comforting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 , , , You JUST got done calling us your extended family, and then you said you didn't like to complain in public. Now which are we, family or public? Complain all you want. No sense making the rest of us look like whiners. ;^) I don't know about SI joints fusing. Unless I'm mistaken, for a joint to fuse spontaneously you have to have bone against bone. I would think it would be pretty painful getting there. Is your ortho the one who did your revision? Did he say he doesn't like to fuse SI joints because they are hard to fuse? Or does he just think it isn't worth the trouble because they will fuse eventually anyway? I think you need to ask him some more questions, though hopefully someone here has experience with this stuff. I have experience with SI pain, and it's a b****, but not with fusion. Sharon [ ] Re: 's SI joints > Thanks for your note, Bonnie (and Sharon, and Ken, and others). > > If you've been around the various groups for awhile, you know I try > to add a bit of humor to some (many?) of my messages. Every once in > awhile I just don't feel like joking. My wife kind of kids me, > saying that its about time for something else to need fixing (I'm > kind of averaging a set of problems about every three or so years - > can't quite set my calendar to it, but its more true than not). > > Words of wisdom: You know you've had a good physical when you leave > without any specialist referrals :-) > > I think I deal well with problems when I know the cause; I should > avoid action X because it causes pain. The thing I don't deal with > well is stuff that hurts, well, just because. The SI joints seem to > be " one of those " things. I stop doing stuff and it still aches. > Last night was a great example. Add to it a family doc that really > doesn't want to prescribe narcotics (even though Darvocet and Mobic > and... don't work nearly as well) and an ortho that would rather not > be prescribing them either, I get frustrated. I have no problem > asking for a referral to a pain management doctor and will probably > do so as soon as I give the current plan a chance to work (even > though I don't really trust it). > > The ortho says that, in most cases, the SI joints fuse themselves > (and that he hasn't done an SI fusion for 10 years). That's all > well and good, but now what? How successful was my ortho when > someone like Rand won't touch an SI fusion? What does it feel like > when your SI joints are fused? What will my gait be like if they do > choose to fuse? Will they hurt then? What will hurt after that? > What happens if they don't fuse by themselves? Should I start > planning for this stuff? How can I plan when I don't know what's > going to happen? (I do like a well-ordered life, don't I?) > > I don't want another surgery. I don't want the recovery. I don't > (based on how I reacted to the last two fusions) want the > depression. I don't want yet another set of things I can't do. I > don't want to give up more foods because an energetic turtle is > getting more exercise (burning more calories) than I am. > > On the other hand, if I do have to have another procedure, I know I > can get through it with the help of my family, both personal and > extended (you guys). > > > > P.S. I don't like to complain in public. Hopefully this will be the > last one in quite awhile. > > >> >> HI , >> >> I have been dealing with the same SI Joint problem. Remember how > they said that after revision to sacrum, the next " to go " would be > the knees and hips? The " transfer " " of stress from the unfused > spine. They forgot to tell us, or at least me, that in some cases, > the first to go are the SI Joints. Then again, my revision surgery > was over eight years ago and it could be that then they didn't know > how much stress would transfer to the SI Joints. We are still > guinea pigs. I'm not complaining: by the time I had my first > surgery, my curves were 70/55 and still going. I had no choice but > to act, and the docs have done the best they could for me. But my > SI Joints are now a big issue. Very painful. Is interfering with > my life. Tried one pain doc and it took me awhile to realize he was > an idiot. I just started with a new pain doc. I can't take an anti- > inflammatory due to stomach issues after being on anti- > inflammatories for nine years. So the plan, agreed to by my local > ortho, and Dr. Boachie (my revision surgeon) is for an SI Joint shot > on the right side first. If that works, do one for the left side. > Assuming that works, do denervation. Medial Branch block is > probably out for me because the fusion is in the way. My right side > SI Joint shot is scheduled for Monday. I'll let you know what > happens. That doc switched me from Paxil to Cymbalta two weeks ago > After we know the effect of the SI Joint shot, he is going to switch > me from Percoset to Oxycontin. (Percoset was due to other, idiot > doc). I also take Ambien to sleep. I also take Neurontin and > eventually we will determine if that's still working after 8 years > and, if not, switch to something else. Sounds complicated, but it's > not. Just trying the shots and changing to more appropriate drugs. > It all takes time to get the whole thing done - can't change more > than one thing at a time. If you do, you don't know what works and > what doesn't. >> >> Don't let any of this scare any of you. Our futures are not > guaranteed. I think we all know that. But the docs have done the > best they can with the knowledge they have. I will never give up! >> >> My daughter is here visiting for the weekend so I'm going to be > busy till after the injection Monday. She's annoyed with me for > taking time away from her to write this email. She 37 years old. > Grrrrr. >> >> I'll let you all know how I fare with the shot. If I have time, > I'll check email before Monday afternoon, but I might not be able to. >> >> . Hang in. I really do hate to say this, but I'm glad I'm > not alone. And I'm glad that your docs and mine are thinking to do > the same things. That's comforting. > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Even family tires of too much bitching. I don't want to be people's favorite reason to hit the delete key. My ortho only said he hasn't done an SI fusion for awhile. He made no mention on whether he likes to do them or not. He did say that they tend to fuse on their own. I don't know under what conditions he's assuming. I'll be seeing him again on April 24. > > , , , > > You JUST got done calling us your extended family, and then you said you > didn't like to complain in public. Now which are we, family or public? > > Complain all you want. No sense making the rest of us look like whiners. > ;^) > > I don't know about SI joints fusing. Unless I'm mistaken, for a joint to > fuse spontaneously you have to have bone against bone. I would think it > would be pretty painful getting there. > > Is your ortho the one who did your revision? Did he say he doesn't like to > fuse SI joints because they are hard to fuse? Or does he just think it > isn't worth the trouble because they will fuse eventually anyway? > > I think you need to ask him some more questions, though hopefully someone > here has experience with this stuff. I have experience with SI pain, and > it's a b****, but not with fusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 , I don't think you've ever been in danger of that with us. Good point about family, though. My parents and sibs seem to be able to listen to quite a bit, but my husband once mentioned that I seem to talk about my back an awful lot. He has his limits in the listening department, and I know he'll be through a lot when I do get revised, so I try not to overload him. Maybe it doesn't hurt when SI joints fuse spontaneously, or at least there are no nerve roots to pinch in the process. Otherwise I don't think they would be so blase' about spontaneous fusion. But I'd definitely ask. And please let us know what you learn. It's something that may affect many of us. Sharon PS: Anyone want to volunteer to draw up a bitch-o-meter? This way we can keep track and let him know when he's reached his quota. ;^) [ ] Re: 's SI joints > Even family tires of too much bitching. I don't want to be people's > favorite reason to hit the delete key. > > My ortho only said he hasn't done an SI fusion for awhile. He made > no mention on whether he likes to do them or not. He did say that > they tend to fuse on their own. I don't know under what conditions > he's assuming. > > I'll be seeing him again on April 24. > > > > >> >> , , , >> >> You JUST got done calling us your extended family, and then you > said you >> didn't like to complain in public. Now which are we, family or > public? >> >> Complain all you want. No sense making the rest of us look like > whiners. >> ;^) >> >> I don't know about SI joints fusing. Unless I'm mistaken, for a > joint to >> fuse spontaneously you have to have bone against bone. I would > think it >> would be pretty painful getting there. >> >> Is your ortho the one who did your revision? Did he say he > doesn't like to >> fuse SI joints because they are hard to fuse? Or does he just > think it >> isn't worth the trouble because they will fuse eventually anyway? >> >> I think you need to ask him some more questions, though hopefully > someone >> here has experience with this stuff. I have experience with SI > pain, and >> it's a b****, but not with fusion. > > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Hi ... I've been reluctant to say anything about this, for fear of jinxing it. My PT gave me an exercise for my S-I joint pain about 6 months ago, and I haven't had any real pain since then. It's a simple exercise that I do every day. First, I stand on my right foot, holding on to something with my left hand, and use my butt muscles to turn the leg to the right. Then, I switch feet and hands, and do it again. I do this 10x. Regards, > > Even family tires of too much bitching. I don't want to be people's > favorite reason to hit the delete key. > > My ortho only said he hasn't done an SI fusion for awhile. He made > no mention on whether he likes to do them or not. He did say that > they tend to fuse on their own. I don't know under what conditions > he's assuming. > > I'll be seeing him again on April 24. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 , I just tried that exercise, and it feels good. I had a lot of SI joint pain a few years back. I would get so I couldn't put weight on the associated leg without excruciating pain. To walk at all involved holding myself up with my hands on my knee and hobbling miserably. I suppose the joint was " out " , and it would only go back to where it belonged if I sat with my hips well bent, or if my massage therapist worked on my piriformis. After I started a program of easy but balanced weight training, the attacks stopped, and I haven't had a full-blown one since. Sharon [ ] Re: 's SI joints > Hi ... > > I've been reluctant to say anything about this, for fear of jinxing > it. My PT gave me an exercise for my S-I joint pain about 6 months > ago, and I haven't had any real pain since then. It's a simple > exercise that I do every day. First, I stand on my right foot, > holding on to something with my left hand, and use my butt muscles to > turn the leg to the right. Then, I switch feet and hands, and do it > again. I do this 10x. > > Regards, > > > >> >> Even family tires of too much bitching. I don't want to be people's >> favorite reason to hit the delete key. >> >> My ortho only said he hasn't done an SI fusion for awhile. He made >> no mention on whether he likes to do them or not. He did say that >> they tend to fuse on their own. I don't know under what conditions >> he's assuming. >> >> I'll be seeing him again on April 24. >> >> > > > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 That one made me laugh. Thanks, Sharon. >... > > PS: Anyone want to volunteer to draw up a bitch-o-meter? This way we > can keep track and let him know when he's reached his quota. > > ;^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 well, I guess I should read all the posts before responding because here is a good suggestion. Thanks ! > > > > Even family tires of too much bitching. I don't want to be people's > > favorite reason to hit the delete key. > > > > My ortho only said he hasn't done an SI fusion for awhile. He made > > no mention on whether he likes to do them or not. He did say that > > they tend to fuse on their own. I don't know under what conditions > > he's assuming. > > > > I'll be seeing him again on April 24. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 That bitch-o-meter would look just about the same as the pain scale… wouldn't it? But mine would also have giant spikes every 28 days. Seriously , I could very much relate to your message. I too have heard about the SI joints fusing themselves. As Sharon implied it may very well be hellish getting to that point. I hope to soon have my friend who is an acupuncturist work on me and I will let you know if that helps. I think I wrote you before that I am reluctant to go for the cortisone injections because I have found (FOR ME) the day after those treatments to be very, very painful. Are you doing any water therapy? Thanks for sharing with us...your jokes AND your feelings. " I feel your pain " (hehe) Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 --- , I read your post, I guess it made me realize that even after it is all said and done, it never really is...there are always " other " issues...<pa In , " Blackledge " <scottb2@...> wrote: > > Thanks for your note, Bonnie (and Sharon, and Ken, and others). > > If you've been around the various groups for awhile, you know I try > to add a bit of humor to some (many?) of my messages. Every once in > awhile I just don't feel like joking. My wife kind of kids me, > saying that its about time for something else to need fixing (I'm > kind of averaging a set of problems about every three or so years - > can't quite set my calendar to it, but its more true than not). > > Words of wisdom: You know you've had a good physical when you leave > without any specialist referrals :-) > > I think I deal well with problems when I know the cause; I should > avoid action X because it causes pain. The thing I don't deal with > well is stuff that hurts, well, just because. The SI joints seem to > be " one of those " things. I stop doing stuff and it still aches. > Last night was a great example. Add to it a family doc that really > doesn't want to prescribe narcotics (even though Darvocet and Mobic > and... don't work nearly as well) and an ortho that would rather not > be prescribing them either, I get frustrated. I have no problem > asking for a referral to a pain management doctor and will probably > do so as soon as I give the current plan a chance to work (even > though I don't really trust it). > > The ortho says that, in most cases, the SI joints fuse themselves > (and that he hasn't done an SI fusion for 10 years). That's all > well and good, but now what? How successful was my ortho when > someone like Rand won't touch an SI fusion? What does it feel like > when your SI joints are fused? What will my gait be like if they do > choose to fuse? Will they hurt then? What will hurt after that? > What happens if they don't fuse by themselves? Should I start > planning for this stuff? How can I plan when I don't know what's > going to happen? (I do like a well-ordered life, don't I?) > > I don't want another surgery. I don't want the recovery. I don't > (based on how I reacted to the last two fusions) want the > depression. I don't want yet another set of things I can't do. I > don't want to give up more foods because an energetic turtle is > getting more exercise (burning more calories) than I am. > > On the other hand, if I do have to have another procedure, I know I > can get through it with the help of my family, both personal and > extended (you guys). > > > > P.S. I don't like to complain in public. Hopefully this will be the > last one in quite awhile. > > > > > > HI , > > > > I have been dealing with the same SI Joint problem. Remember how > they said that after revision to sacrum, the next " to go " would be > the knees and hips? The " transfer " " of stress from the unfused > spine. They forgot to tell us, or at least me, that in some cases, > the first to go are the SI Joints. Then again, my revision surgery > was over eight years ago and it could be that then they didn't know > how much stress would transfer to the SI Joints. We are still > guinea pigs. I'm not complaining: by the time I had my first > surgery, my curves were 70/55 and still going. I had no choice but > to act, and the docs have done the best they could for me. But my > SI Joints are now a big issue. Very painful. Is interfering with > my life. Tried one pain doc and it took me awhile to realize he was > an idiot. I just started with a new pain doc. I can't take an anti- > inflammatory due to stomach issues after being on anti- > inflammatories for nine years. So the plan, agreed to by my local > ortho, and Dr. Boachie (my revision surgeon) is for an SI Joint shot > on the right side first. If that works, do one for the left side. > Assuming that works, do denervation. Medial Branch block is > probably out for me because the fusion is in the way. My right side > SI Joint shot is scheduled for Monday. I'll let you know what > happens. That doc switched me from Paxil to Cymbalta two weeks ago > After we know the effect of the SI Joint shot, he is going to switch > me from Percoset to Oxycontin. (Percoset was due to other, idiot > doc). I also take Ambien to sleep. I also take Neurontin and > eventually we will determine if that's still working after 8 years > and, if not, switch to something else. Sounds complicated, but it's > not. Just trying the shots and changing to more appropriate drugs. > It all takes time to get the whole thing done - can't change more > than one thing at a time. If you do, you don't know what works and > what doesn't. > > > > Don't let any of this scare any of you. Our futures are not > guaranteed. I think we all know that. But the docs have done the > best they can with the knowledge they have. I will never give up! > > > > My daughter is here visiting for the weekend so I'm going to be > busy till after the injection Monday. She's annoyed with me for > taking time away from her to write this email. She 37 years old. > Grrrrr. > > > > I'll let you all know how I fare with the shot. If I have time, > I'll check email before Monday afternoon, but I might not be able to. > > > > . Hang in. I really do hate to say this, but I'm glad I'm > not alone. And I'm glad that your docs and mine are thinking to do > the same things. That's comforting. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 -- Sharon, In one of the posts someone said Rand does not touchthe SI joints..am I correct? I am confused, I wondered if you could clear that up for me....,PA - In , " Sharon Green " <sharon.green18@...> wrote: > > , , , > > You JUST got done calling us your extended family, and then you said you > didn't like to complain in public. Now which are we, family or public? > > Complain all you want. No sense making the rest of us look like whiners. > ;^) > > I don't know about SI joints fusing. Unless I'm mistaken, for a joint to > fuse spontaneously you have to have bone against bone. I would think it > would be pretty painful getting there. > > Is your ortho the one who did your revision? Did he say he doesn't like to > fuse SI joints because they are hard to fuse? Or does he just think it > isn't worth the trouble because they will fuse eventually anyway? > > I think you need to ask him some more questions, though hopefully someone > here has experience with this stuff. I have experience with SI pain, and > it's a b****, but not with fusion. > > Sharon > > > [ ] Re: 's SI joints > > > > Thanks for your note, Bonnie (and Sharon, and Ken, and others). > > > > If you've been around the various groups for awhile, you know I try > > to add a bit of humor to some (many?) of my messages. Every once in > > awhile I just don't feel like joking. My wife kind of kids me, > > saying that its about time for something else to need fixing (I'm > > kind of averaging a set of problems about every three or so years - > > can't quite set my calendar to it, but its more true than not). > > > > Words of wisdom: You know you've had a good physical when you leave > > without any specialist referrals :-) > > > > I think I deal well with problems when I know the cause; I should > > avoid action X because it causes pain. The thing I don't deal with > > well is stuff that hurts, well, just because. The SI joints seem to > > be " one of those " things. I stop doing stuff and it still aches. > > Last night was a great example. Add to it a family doc that really > > doesn't want to prescribe narcotics (even though Darvocet and Mobic > > and... don't work nearly as well) and an ortho that would rather not > > be prescribing them either, I get frustrated. I have no problem > > asking for a referral to a pain management doctor and will probably > > do so as soon as I give the current plan a chance to work (even > > though I don't really trust it). > > > > The ortho says that, in most cases, the SI joints fuse themselves > > (and that he hasn't done an SI fusion for 10 years). That's all > > well and good, but now what? How successful was my ortho when > > someone like Rand won't touch an SI fusion? What does it feel like > > when your SI joints are fused? What will my gait be like if they do > > choose to fuse? Will they hurt then? What will hurt after that? > > What happens if they don't fuse by themselves? Should I start > > planning for this stuff? How can I plan when I don't know what's > > going to happen? (I do like a well-ordered life, don't I?) > > > > I don't want another surgery. I don't want the recovery. I don't > > (based on how I reacted to the last two fusions) want the > > depression. I don't want yet another set of things I can't do. I > > don't want to give up more foods because an energetic turtle is > > getting more exercise (burning more calories) than I am. > > > > On the other hand, if I do have to have another procedure, I know I > > can get through it with the help of my family, both personal and > > extended (you guys). > > > > > > > > P.S. I don't like to complain in public. Hopefully this will be the > > last one in quite awhile. > > > > > >> > >> HI , > >> > >> I have been dealing with the same SI Joint problem. Remember how > > they said that after revision to sacrum, the next " to go " would be > > the knees and hips? The " transfer " " of stress from the unfused > > spine. They forgot to tell us, or at least me, that in some cases, > > the first to go are the SI Joints. Then again, my revision surgery > > was over eight years ago and it could be that then they didn't know > > how much stress would transfer to the SI Joints. We are still > > guinea pigs. I'm not complaining: by the time I had my first > > surgery, my curves were 70/55 and still going. I had no choice but > > to act, and the docs have done the best they could for me. But my > > SI Joints are now a big issue. Very painful. Is interfering with > > my life. Tried one pain doc and it took me awhile to realize he was > > an idiot. I just started with a new pain doc. I can't take an anti- > > inflammatory due to stomach issues after being on anti- > > inflammatories for nine years. So the plan, agreed to by my local > > ortho, and Dr. Boachie (my revision surgeon) is for an SI Joint shot > > on the right side first. If that works, do one for the left side. > > Assuming that works, do denervation. Medial Branch block is > > probably out for me because the fusion is in the way. My right side > > SI Joint shot is scheduled for Monday. I'll let you know what > > happens. That doc switched me from Paxil to Cymbalta two weeks ago > > After we know the effect of the SI Joint shot, he is going to switch > > me from Percoset to Oxycontin. (Percoset was due to other, idiot > > doc). I also take Ambien to sleep. I also take Neurontin and > > eventually we will determine if that's still working after 8 years > > and, if not, switch to something else. Sounds complicated, but it's > > not. Just trying the shots and changing to more appropriate drugs. > > It all takes time to get the whole thing done - can't change more > > than one thing at a time. If you do, you don't know what works and > > what doesn't. > >> > >> Don't let any of this scare any of you. Our futures are not > > guaranteed. I think we all know that. But the docs have done the > > best they can with the knowledge they have. I will never give up! > >> > >> My daughter is here visiting for the weekend so I'm going to be > > busy till after the injection Monday. She's annoyed with me for > > taking time away from her to write this email. She 37 years old. > > Grrrrr. > >> > >> I'll let you all know how I fare with the shot. If I have time, > > I'll check email before Monday afternoon, but I might not be able to. > >> > >> . Hang in. I really do hate to say this, but I'm glad I'm > > not alone. And I'm glad that your docs and mine are thinking to do > > the same things. That's comforting. > > > > > > > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 HI , You can complain to me any time you like! It's not really complaining anyway, it's venting. And we all need to do that sometimes. You sound just like me. All the thoughts you've expressed here have been my thoughts too. I can handle whatever I need to handle, but I absolutely hate being blindsided. It sets me back. I'm just now coming to terms with this SI Joint problem. Perhaps that's because I think I've found a doc who can help. He's pain med doc, certified in anesthesiology and pain medicine. (No one is suggesting surgery as an option and no way I would do it anyway.) (I've been the physiatrist route. Yuck to the 3 I've tried.) This new doc seems very understanding and compassionate and thinks he can help. I have been utterly refusing to try narcotics. I know they have their place and have been on them before, but not when looking at such a long term possibility. Anyway, he convinced me and today is my first day on Oxycontin. I'm taking the lowest dose, 10 mg, at least to start, and will try to take it only once per day. He that's okay. It's a long acting, 12 hour pill. I think I can go 9 pm to 9 am without it. We'll see. Also, yesterday, I had an SI Joint block. It wasn't bad at all. I can't even feel the initial injection because I'm so numb around there, and the rest wasn't so bad. I go back in three weeks. Wish me luck! I'll let you now how all this is working. It's really too early to tell yet. But he has given me hope again. Good luck on the Mobic. My new doc would have tried that first, but my tummy is in no condition for an NSAID. At least your doc and mine seem to be on the same wave length. That's good, I think. But none of my docs have mentioned the SI Joint fusing on its own. The pain med doc, when looking at the SI Joint yesterday via fluoroscopy (sp) said it is a very "tight" joint. Don't know whether he meant mine or everyone's. I'll ask next time. Keep in touch, please. I don't wish pain on anyone, of course, but it feels good not to be alone. Bonnie [ ] Re: 's SI joints Thanks for your note, Bonnie (and Sharon, and Ken, and others).If you've been around the various groups for awhile, you know I try to add a bit of humor to some (many?) of my messages. Every once in awhile I just don't feel like joking. My wife kind of kids me, saying that its about time for something else to need fixing (I'm kind of averaging a set of problems about every three or so years - can't quite set my calendar to it, but its more true than not).Words of wisdom: You know you've had a good physical when you leave without any specialist referrals :-)I think I deal well with problems when I know the cause; I should avoid action X because it causes pain. The thing I don't deal with well is stuff that hurts, well, just because. The SI joints seem to be "one of those" things. I stop doing stuff and it still aches. Last night was a great example. Add to it a family doc that really doesn't want to prescribe narcotics (even though Darvocet and Mobic and... don't work nearly as well) and an ortho that would rather not be prescribing them either, I get frustrated. I have no problem asking for a referral to a pain management doctor and will probably do so as soon as I give the current plan a chance to work (even though I don't really trust it).The ortho says that, in most cases, the SI joints fuse themselves (and that he hasn't done an SI fusion for 10 years). That's all well and good, but now what? How successful was my ortho when someone like Rand won't touch an SI fusion? What does it feel like when your SI joints are fused? What will my gait be like if they do choose to fuse? Will they hurt then? What will hurt after that? What happens if they don't fuse by themselves? Should I start planning for this stuff? How can I plan when I don't know what's going to happen? (I do like a well-ordered life, don't I?)I don't want another surgery. I don't want the recovery. I don't (based on how I reacted to the last two fusions) want the depression. I don't want yet another set of things I can't do. I don't want to give up more foods because an energetic turtle is getting more exercise (burning more calories) than I am.On the other hand, if I do have to have another procedure, I know I can get through it with the help of my family, both personal and extended (you guys).P.S. I don't like to complain in public. Hopefully this will be the last one in quite awhile.>> HI ,> > I have been dealing with the same SI Joint problem. Remember how they said that after revision to sacrum, the next "to go" would be the knees and hips? The "transfer" " of stress from the unfused spine. They forgot to tell us, or at least me, that in some cases, the first to go are the SI Joints. Then again, my revision surgery was over eight years ago and it could be that then they didn't know how much stress would transfer to the SI Joints. We are still guinea pigs. I'm not complaining: by the time I had my first surgery, my curves were 70/55 and still going. I had no choice but to act, and the docs have done the best they could for me. But my SI Joints are now a big issue. Very painful. Is interfering with my life. Tried one pain doc and it took me awhile to realize he was an idiot. I just started with a new pain doc. I can't take an anti-inflammatory due to stomach issues after being on anti-inflammatories for nine years. So the plan, agreed to by my local ortho, and Dr. Boachie (my revision surgeon) is for an SI Joint shot on the right side first. If that works, do one for the left side. Assuming that works, do denervation. Medial Branch block is probably out for me because the fusion is in the way. My right side SI Joint shot is scheduled for Monday. I'll let you know what happens. That doc switched me from Paxil to Cymbalta two weeks ago After we know the effect of the SI Joint shot, he is going to switch me from Percoset to Oxycontin. (Percoset was due to other, idiot doc). I also take Ambien to sleep. I also take Neurontin and eventually we will determine if that's still working after 8 years and, if not, switch to something else. Sounds complicated, but it's not. Just trying the shots and changing to more appropriate drugs. It all takes time to get the whole thing done - can't change more than one thing at a time. If you do, you don't know what works and what doesn't. > > Don't let any of this scare any of you. Our futures are not guaranteed. I think we all know that. But the docs have done the best they can with the knowledge they have. I will never give up!> > My daughter is here visiting for the weekend so I'm going to be busy till after the injection Monday. She's annoyed with me for taking time away from her to write this email. She 37 years old. Grrrrr.> > I'll let you all know how I fare with the shot. If I have time, I'll check email before Monday afternoon, but I might not be able to.> > . Hang in. I really do hate to say this, but I'm glad I'm not alone. And I'm glad that your docs and mine are thinking to do the same things. That's comforting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 I just finished my two month stint. The PT did help, but not enough to make it all go away. On the other hand, about four shots of whisky did seem to make the pain go away. Hmmmm... >... > Are you doing any water > therapy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Hi Sharon and all., My hubby thinks I complain too much, too. Sigh. I try not to. My daughter gets teary and my son, HRod 1981, gets nervous. You guys help me so much. You understand. Bonnie [ ] Re: 's SI joints> Even family tires of too much bitching. I don't want to be people's> favorite reason to hit the delete key.>> My ortho only said he hasn't done an SI fusion for awhile. He made> no mention on whether he likes to do them or not. He did say that> they tend to fuse on their own. I don't know under what conditions> he's assuming.>> I'll be seeing him again on April 24.>> >> >>>> , , ,>>>> You JUST got done calling us your extended family, and then you> said you>> didn't like to complain in public. Now which are we, family or> public?>>>> Complain all you want. No sense making the rest of us look like> whiners.>> ;^)>>>> I don't know about SI joints fusing. Unless I'm mistaken, for a> joint to>> fuse spontaneously you have to have bone against bone. I would> think it>> would be pretty painful getting there.>>>> Is your ortho the one who did your revision? Did he say he> doesn't like to>> fuse SI joints because they are hard to fuse? Or does he just> think it>> isn't worth the trouble because they will fuse eventually anyway?>>>> I think you need to ask him some more questions, though hopefully> someone>> here has experience with this stuff. I have experience with SI> pain, and>> it's a b****, but not with fusion.>>>>>>> scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 To be fair, I should note that my ortho doesn't mind my taking nartotics. He just doesn't want to be the one to prescribe them. He doesn't want to be in the pain management business. I understand. >... > Add to it a family doc that really > doesn't want to prescribe narcotics (even though Darvocet and Mobic > and... don't work nearly as well) and an ortho that would rather not > be prescribing them either, I get frustrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 , Thank you!!! Do you hold the position at the end of the turn, like to a count of, say, 3? Please tell me the position of the leg you are moving. Knee up? How high? Or just bent to get that leg off the ground? Thanks again. Bonnie [ ] Re: 's SI joints Hi ...I've been reluctant to say anything about this, for fear of jinxingit. My PT gave me an exercise for my S-I joint pain about 6 monthsago, and I haven't had any real pain since then. It's a simpleexercise that I do every day. First, I stand on my right foot,holding on to something with my left hand, and use my butt muscles toturn the leg to the right. Then, I switch feet and hands, and do itagain. I do this 10x.Regards,>> Even family tires of too much bitching. I don't want to be people's > favorite reason to hit the delete key.> > My ortho only said he hasn't done an SI fusion for awhile. He made > no mention on whether he likes to do them or not. He did say that > they tend to fuse on their own. I don't know under what conditions > he's assuming.> > I'll be seeing him again on April 24.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 , This is exactly what I am in the process of trying to make peace with..and I think I am almost there. This is why I am currently looking for a new place to live without stairs. Ann > > > > > > HI , > > > > > > I have been dealing with the same SI Joint problem. Remember how > > they said that after revision to sacrum, the next " to go " would be > > the knees and hips? The " transfer " " of stress from the unfused > > spine. They forgot to tell us, or at least me, that in some cases, > > the first to go are the SI Joints. Then again, my revision surgery > > was over eight years ago and it could be that then they didn't know > > how much stress would transfer to the SI Joints. We are still > > guinea pigs. I'm not complaining: by the time I had my first > > surgery, my curves were 70/55 and still going. I had no choice but > > to act, and the docs have done the best they could for me. But my > > SI Joints are now a big issue. Very painful. Is interfering with > > my life. Tried one pain doc and it took me awhile to realize he > was > > an idiot. I just started with a new pain doc. I can't take an > anti- > > inflammatory due to stomach issues after being on anti- > > inflammatories for nine years. So the plan, agreed to by my local > > ortho, and Dr. Boachie (my revision surgeon) is for an SI Joint > shot > > on the right side first. If that works, do one for the left side. > > Assuming that works, do denervation. Medial Branch block is > > probably out for me because the fusion is in the way. My right > side > > SI Joint shot is scheduled for Monday. I'll let you know what > > happens. That doc switched me from Paxil to Cymbalta two weeks ago > > After we know the effect of the SI Joint shot, he is going to > switch > > me from Percoset to Oxycontin. (Percoset was due to other, idiot > > doc). I also take Ambien to sleep. I also take Neurontin and > > eventually we will determine if that's still working after 8 years > > and, if not, switch to something else. Sounds complicated, but it's > > not. Just trying the shots and changing to more appropriate > drugs. > > It all takes time to get the whole thing done - can't change more > > than one thing at a time. If you do, you don't know what works and > > what doesn't. > > > > > > Don't let any of this scare any of you. Our futures are not > > guaranteed. I think we all know that. But the docs have done the > > best they can with the knowledge they have. I will never give up! > > > > > > My daughter is here visiting for the weekend so I'm going to be > > busy till after the injection Monday. She's annoyed with me for > > taking time away from her to write this email. She 37 years old. > > Grrrrr. > > > > > > I'll let you all know how I fare with the shot. If I have time, > > I'll check email before Monday afternoon, but I might not be able > to. > > > > > > . Hang in. I really do hate to say this, but I'm glad I'm > > not alone. And I'm glad that your docs and mine are thinking to do > > the same things. That's comforting. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Yes, When I asked Rand --- he told me that he doesn't touch them...but maybe he will need to start when his patient base move on to this next phase!!! , " heatherbenjaminnicholas " <heatherbenjaminnicholas@...> wrote: > > -- > > Sharon, > > In one of the posts someone said Rand does not touchthe SI joints..am > I correct? I am confused, I wondered if you could clear that up for > me....,PA > > - In , " Sharon Green " > <sharon.green18@> wrote: > > > > , , , > > > > You JUST got done calling us your extended family, and then you > said you > > didn't like to complain in public. Now which are we, family or > public? > > > > Complain all you want. No sense making the rest of us look like > whiners. > > ;^) > > > > I don't know about SI joints fusing. Unless I'm mistaken, for a > joint to > > fuse spontaneously you have to have bone against bone. I would > think it > > would be pretty painful getting there. > > > > Is your ortho the one who did your revision? Did he say he doesn't > like to > > fuse SI joints because they are hard to fuse? Or does he just > think it > > isn't worth the trouble because they will fuse eventually anyway? > > > > I think you need to ask him some more questions, though hopefully > someone > > here has experience with this stuff. I have experience with SI > pain, and > > it's a b****, but not with fusion. > > > > Sharon > > > > > > [ ] Re: 's SI joints > > > > > > > Thanks for your note, Bonnie (and Sharon, and Ken, and others). > > > > > > If you've been around the various groups for awhile, you know I > try > > > to add a bit of humor to some (many?) of my messages. Every once > in > > > awhile I just don't feel like joking. My wife kind of kids me, > > > saying that its about time for something else to need fixing (I'm > > > kind of averaging a set of problems about every three or so > years - > > > can't quite set my calendar to it, but its more true than not). > > > > > > Words of wisdom: You know you've had a good physical when you > leave > > > without any specialist referrals :-) > > > > > > I think I deal well with problems when I know the cause; I should > > > avoid action X because it causes pain. The thing I don't deal > with > > > well is stuff that hurts, well, just because. The SI joints seem > to > > > be " one of those " things. I stop doing stuff and it still aches. > > > Last night was a great example. Add to it a family doc that > really > > > doesn't want to prescribe narcotics (even though Darvocet and > Mobic > > > and... don't work nearly as well) and an ortho that would rather > not > > > be prescribing them either, I get frustrated. I have no problem > > > asking for a referral to a pain management doctor and will > probably > > > do so as soon as I give the current plan a chance to work (even > > > though I don't really trust it). > > > > > > The ortho says that, in most cases, the SI joints fuse themselves > > > (and that he hasn't done an SI fusion for 10 years). That's all > > > well and good, but now what? How successful was my ortho when > > > someone like Rand won't touch an SI fusion? What does it feel > like > > > when your SI joints are fused? What will my gait be like if they > do > > > choose to fuse? Will they hurt then? What will hurt after that? > > > What happens if they don't fuse by themselves? Should I start > > > planning for this stuff? How can I plan when I don't know what's > > > going to happen? (I do like a well-ordered life, don't I?) > > > > > > I don't want another surgery. I don't want the recovery. I don't > > > (based on how I reacted to the last two fusions) want the > > > depression. I don't want yet another set of things I can't do. I > > > don't want to give up more foods because an energetic turtle is > > > getting more exercise (burning more calories) than I am. > > > > > > On the other hand, if I do have to have another procedure, I know > I > > > can get through it with the help of my family, both personal and > > > extended (you guys). > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. I don't like to complain in public. Hopefully this will be > the > > > last one in quite awhile. > > > > > > > > >> > > >> HI , > > >> > > >> I have been dealing with the same SI Joint problem. Remember how > > > they said that after revision to sacrum, the next " to go " would be > > > the knees and hips? The " transfer " " of stress from the unfused > > > spine. They forgot to tell us, or at least me, that in some > cases, > > > the first to go are the SI Joints. Then again, my revision > surgery > > > was over eight years ago and it could be that then they didn't > know > > > how much stress would transfer to the SI Joints. We are still > > > guinea pigs. I'm not complaining: by the time I had my first > > > surgery, my curves were 70/55 and still going. I had no choice > but > > > to act, and the docs have done the best they could for me. But my > > > SI Joints are now a big issue. Very painful. Is interfering with > > > my life. Tried one pain doc and it took me awhile to realize he > was > > > an idiot. I just started with a new pain doc. I can't take an > anti- > > > inflammatory due to stomach issues after being on anti- > > > inflammatories for nine years. So the plan, agreed to by my local > > > ortho, and Dr. Boachie (my revision surgeon) is for an SI Joint > shot > > > on the right side first. If that works, do one for the left side. > > > Assuming that works, do denervation. Medial Branch block is > > > probably out for me because the fusion is in the way. My right > side > > > SI Joint shot is scheduled for Monday. I'll let you know what > > > happens. That doc switched me from Paxil to Cymbalta two weeks > ago > > > After we know the effect of the SI Joint shot, he is going to > switch > > > me from Percoset to Oxycontin. (Percoset was due to other, idiot > > > doc). I also take Ambien to sleep. I also take Neurontin and > > > eventually we will determine if that's still working after 8 years > > > and, if not, switch to something else. Sounds complicated, but > it's > > > not. Just trying the shots and changing to more appropriate > drugs. > > > It all takes time to get the whole thing done - can't change more > > > than one thing at a time. If you do, you don't know what works > and > > > what doesn't. > > >> > > >> Don't let any of this scare any of you. Our futures are not > > > guaranteed. I think we all know that. But the docs have done the > > > best they can with the knowledge they have. I will never give up! > > >> > > >> My daughter is here visiting for the weekend so I'm going to be > > > busy till after the injection Monday. She's annoyed with me for > > > taking time away from her to write this email. She 37 years old. > > > Grrrrr. > > >> > > >> I'll let you all know how I fare with the shot. If I have time, > > > I'll check email before Monday afternoon, but I might not be able > to. > > >> > > >> . Hang in. I really do hate to say this, but I'm glad I'm > > > not alone. And I'm glad that your docs and mine are thinking to > do > > > the same things. That's comforting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Hi Bonnie... I don't hold it. The whole routine takes about a minute. The foot of the leg that I'm moving is flat on the floor, and facing forward. -- > > > > Even family tires of too much bitching. I don't want to be people's > > favorite reason to hit the delete key. > > > > My ortho only said he hasn't done an SI fusion for awhile. He made > > no mention on whether he likes to do them or not. He did say that > > they tend to fuse on their own. I don't know under what conditions > > he's assuming. > > > > I'll be seeing him again on April 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 HI , I'm sorry. This sounds so simple, yet I don't get it. When you stand on your right foot are you moving your right leg? Or the left? Bonnie [ ] Re: 's SI joints Hi Bonnie...I don't hold it. The whole routine takes about a minute. The foot ofthe leg that I'm moving is flat on the floor, and facing forward.--> >> > Even family tires of too much bitching. I don't want to bepeople's > > favorite reason to hit the delete key.> > > > My ortho only said he hasn't done an SI fusion for awhile. He made > > no mention on whether he likes to do them or not. He did say that > > they tend to fuse on their own. I don't know under what conditions > > he's assuming.> > > > I'll be seeing him again on April 24.> > > > > > > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 You're moving the right leg, using the buttock to move the knee to the outside. Sorry if that's still confusing. I've always found describing PT exercises to be very difficult. --L > > > > > > Even family tires of too much bitching. I don't want to be > people's > > > favorite reason to hit the delete key. > > > > > > My ortho only said he hasn't done an SI fusion for awhile. He made > > > no mention on whether he likes to do them or not. He did say that > > > they tend to fuse on their own. I don't know under what conditions > > > he's assuming. > > > > > > I'll be seeing him again on April 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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