RE: Radio Active Iodine Treatment

[Guest guest]

HI - welcome to the group.

Have you had the free t3 and t4 tests done before? These can be useful

if you have a doc who knows how to read them. I think 2 grains of

Armour may not be enough - I was on 5 for awhile. It sounds like you are

well up on all the holistic aspects like nutrition, supplements etc. I

suppose you have heard many of us ,mention adrenals - that is something

you might get tested for as well. Palpitations can be a symptom.

With tests as you know you have to be prepared to have them come back

" normal " - with this in mind if it was me I would go for the " doctor

please treat my symptoms " approach. In my opinion you have to show a

doctor that you will not be satisfied with being treated to test results

- in fact it is a question you could ask her up-front while explaining

to her/him that this approach hasn't helped so far. If you get a bad

vibe don't go back. Find an osteopath or holistic doc.

You could also experiment with a higher dose of Armour before you go and

see if it helps. And last but not least - are you getting enough rest?

This is a must for healing.

Regards,

Kerry

Radio Active Iodine Treatment

I subscribed to this message board about a month ago. I have sat

back and read informational messages and I just want to say thank

you. I know no one but reading these messages, with the exception

of the technical chemistry and physics, it's like listen to my own

thoughts.

So thank you for putting your experiences, you research and

basically part of your lives out there...it is appreciated.

My story is similiar to all of yours...I received radio active

iodine treatment about 11 years ago for Graves Disease....after this

my body and my life has never been the same. Although I invite

growth and change in my life often...I have struggled through the

ever changing thyroid...or lack there of...thyroid saga. I am on 2

grams of Armour thyroid but still feel tired, have joint issues,

depression... yet have palpitations. I am a personal trainer and

fitness instructor with the inability to build muscle or lose

weight. Not too good for business if you know what I mean! My

levels...when they come back from the doctor are for the most part,

always in normal range. Got to love that word " normal " ...whatever

that means!!! But I still feel yucky. Same story different person,

I know...but my question to is...I have just recently moved from

Alabama to Michigan and will be seeing a new endo...which I really

don't trust endos but he comes highly recommended...what questions

should I specifically be asking? Should I ask for different tests

to be done outside of the " normal " blood work up? I know, you're

reading this saying to yourself that she has dealt with this for 11

years and doesn't know what to ask! Actually I have done so much

with different doctors, holistic practioners, nutritionists...you

name it...I just want as much info as I can get!

Thank you again everyone for sharing and your support! You all are

awesome!

[Guest guest]

, where in Michigan are you moving to? I'm moving to Michigan myself in

about 3 weeks, (from Texas). To Beaver Island, Charlevoix County. Look it up,

www.beaverisland.org, I'll be looking for new doctors also, on the mainland of

course. Any suggestions from anybody up there will be greatly appreciated. I'm

willing to travel quite far to find the right doctors. .

Radio Active Iodine Treatment

I subscribed to this message board about a month ago. I have sat

back and read informational messages and I just want to say thank

you. I know no one but reading these messages, with the exception

of the technical chemistry and physics, it's like listen to my own

thoughts.

So thank you for putting your experiences, you research and

basically part of your lives out there...it is appreciated.

My story is similiar to all of yours...I received radio active

iodine treatment about 11 years ago for Graves Disease....after this

my body and my life has never been the same. Although I invite

growth and change in my life often...I have struggled through the

ever changing thyroid...or lack there of...thyroid saga. I am on 2

grams of Armour thyroid but still feel tired, have joint issues,

depression... yet have palpitations. I am a personal trainer and

fitness instructor with the inability to build muscle or lose

weight. Not too good for business if you know what I mean! My

levels...when they come back from the doctor are for the most part,

always in normal range. Got to love that word " normal " ...whatever

that means!!! But I still feel yucky. Same story different person,

I know...but my question to is...I have just recently moved from

Alabama to Michigan and will be seeing a new endo...which I really

don't trust endos but he comes highly recommended...what questions

should I specifically be asking? Should I ask for different tests

to be done outside of the " normal " blood work up? I know, you're

reading this saying to yourself that she has dealt with this for 11

years and doesn't know what to ask! Actually I have done so much

with different doctors, holistic practioners, nutritionists...you

name it...I just want as much info as I can get!

Thank you again everyone for sharing and your support! You all are

awesome!

[Guest guest]

Why oh why oh why would you be on 2 grains Armour? you will need much much

more, and also iodine. (all stuff you should have had in the first place).

In Michigan there is a Dr. Brownstein, has written several books and

is great. Although you will have a wait to see him, he is worth it.

Gracia

>

> I subscribed to this message board about a month ago. I have sat

> back and read informational messages and I just want to say thank

> you. I know no one but reading these messages, with the exception

> of the technical chemistry and physics, it's like listen to my own

> thoughts.

> So thank you for putting your experiences, you research and

> basically part of your lives out there...it is appreciated.

>

> My story is similiar to all of yours...I received radio active

> iodine treatment about 11 years ago for Graves Disease....after this

> my body and my life has never been the same. Although I invite

> growth and change in my life often...I have struggled through the

> ever changing thyroid...or lack there of...thyroid saga. I am on 2

> grams of Armour thyroid

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[Guest guest]

The highest dosage I was on was 3 grains and it was decreased by a holistic

MD...felt it was too high although he in turn talked me in to by a mess load of

his supplements!

So you really think I should be on 5 grains? I would be willing to try

it...anything to get my life back!

You also said I need iodine...I will check into that. I have also decided to

make an appointment with Dr. Brownstein...I feel more comfortable seeing a

doctor that someone has recommended.

Thank you!

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

Why oh why oh why would you be on 2 grains Armour? you will need much much

more, and also iodine. (all stuff you should have had in the first place).

In Michigan there is a Dr. Brownstein, has written several books and

is great. Although you will have a wait to see him, he is worth it.

Gracia

>

> I subscribed to this message board about a month ago. I have sat

> back and read informational messages and I just want to say thank

> you. I know no one but reading these messages, with the exception

> of the technical chemistry and physics, it's like listen to my own

> thoughts.

> So thank you for putting your experiences, you research and

> basically part of your lives out there...it is appreciated.

>

> My story is similiar to all of yours...I received radio active

> iodine treatment about 11 years ago for Graves Disease....after this

> my body and my life has never been the same. Although I invite

> growth and change in my life often...I have struggled through the

> ever changing thyroid...or lack there of...thyroid saga. I am on 2

> grams of Armour thyroid

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[Guest guest]

yes of course you need 5 grains at least. I know peeps on 10 grains, used

to be common in the old days. Brownstein is the Iodine doc and I hear he is

wonderful. You can order thyroid meds fromn the internet you know--I can

supply info

Best of luck

Gracia

circe@...

The highest dosage I was on was 3 grains and it was decreased by a holistic

MD...felt it was too high although he in turn talked me in to by a mess load

of his supplements!

So you really think I should be on 5 grains? I would be willing to try

it...anything to get my life back!

You also said I need iodine...I will check into that. I have also decided

to make an appointment with Dr. Brownstein...I feel more comfortable seeing

a doctor that someone has recommended.

Thank you!

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

Why oh why oh why would you be on 2 grains Armour? you will need much much

more, and also iodine. (all stuff you should have had in the first place).

In Michigan there is a Dr. Brownstein, has written several books and

is great. Although you will have a wait to see him, he is worth it.

Gracia

>

> I subscribed to this message board about a month ago. I have sat

> back and read informational messages and I just want to say thank

> you. I know no one but reading these messages, with the exception

> of the technical chemistry and physics, it's like listen to my own

> thoughts.

> So thank you for putting your experiences, you research and

> basically part of your lives out there...it is appreciated.

>

> My story is similiar to all of yours...I received radio active

> iodine treatment about 11 years ago for Graves Disease....after this

> my body and my life has never been the same. Although I invite

> growth and change in my life often...I have struggled through the

> ever changing thyroid...or lack there of...thyroid saga. I am on 2

> grams of Armour thyroid

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[Guest guest]

Gracia,

Thank you again for your advice...I am definately going to use Dr,

Brownstein...it will be nice to work with a doctor that will work with me. I

have always wondered about increasing my armour intake...just always wondered

about palpatations. I plan on visiting the adrenal website right after I get

done writing you! I think you're right about the palpations being an adrenal

issue. As far as ordering Armour online...I have one website with a bunch of

pharmacys listed...I think I actually found one but haven't placed the order.

Which one do you use?

Hey have you heard anything about Alvidar? This is a thyroid supplement that

is suppose to help with the classic Hypothyroid symptoms...just curious if

anyone has tried it.

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

yes of course you need 5 grains at least. I know peeps on 10 grains, used

to be common in the old days. Brownstein is the Iodine doc and I hear he is

wonderful. You can order thyroid meds fromn the internet you know--I can

supply info

Best of luck

Gracia

circe@...

The highest dosage I was on was 3 grains and it was decreased by a holistic

MD...felt it was too high although he in turn talked me in to by a mess load

of his supplements!

So you really think I should be on 5 grains? I would be willing to try

it...anything to get my life back!

You also said I need iodine...I will check into that. I have also decided

to make an appointment with Dr. Brownstein...I feel more comfortable seeing

a doctor that someone has recommended.

Thank you!

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

Why oh why oh why would you be on 2 grains Armour? you will need much much

more, and also iodine. (all stuff you should have had in the first place).

In Michigan there is a Dr. Brownstein, has written several books and

is great. Although you will have a wait to see him, he is worth it.

Gracia

>

> I subscribed to this message board about a month ago. I have sat

> back and read informational messages and I just want to say thank

> you. I know no one but reading these messages, with the exception

> of the technical chemistry and physics, it's like listen to my own

> thoughts.

> So thank you for putting your experiences, you research and

> basically part of your lives out there...it is appreciated.

>

> My story is similiar to all of yours...I received radio active

> iodine treatment about 11 years ago for Graves Disease....after this

> my body and my life has never been the same. Although I invite

> growth and change in my life often...I have struggled through the

> ever changing thyroid...or lack there of...thyroid saga. I am on 2

> grams of Armour thyroid

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for welcoming me into the group Kerry Ann...everyone has been so nice

and extremely helpful!

I agree about my armour dosage being low...honestly, I always thought so...I

remember saying to the doctor that something just isn't right. I am making

arrangements to see a doctor recommended by this message board to pursue higher

medication therapy. I will request tests of my t3 and t4 as well as my

adrenals...as far as raising my medication on my own...I will be placing an

order for Armour today and raise it as my appointment with this new doctor is

not for another month.

In regard to your question, am I getting enough rest? I really think so...I

do work out a lot however I know rest is just as important to a fitness program

as cardio or weights. So I would have to say yes for the most part. But even

so...sometimes it is a chore to have to walk up the stairs to go to bed!!!

Crazy stuff! Here I am, a person who loves to workout and I have to mentally

prepare myself for a flight of stairs! Crazy!

I will keep you posted...thank you again for all your help!!

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote:

HI - welcome to the group.

Have you had the free t3 and t4 tests done before? These can be useful

if you have a doc who knows how to read them. I think 2 grains of

Armour may not be enough - I was on 5 for awhile. It sounds like you are

well up on all the holistic aspects like nutrition, supplements etc. I

suppose you have heard many of us ,mention adrenals - that is something

you might get tested for as well. Palpitations can be a symptom.

With tests as you know you have to be prepared to have them come back

" normal " - with this in mind if it was me I would go for the " doctor

please treat my symptoms " approach. In my opinion you have to show a

doctor that you will not be satisfied with being treated to test results

- in fact it is a question you could ask her up-front while explaining

to her/him that this approach hasn't helped so far. If you get a bad

vibe don't go back. Find an osteopath or holistic doc.

You could also experiment with a higher dose of Armour before you go and

see if it helps. And last but not least - are you getting enough rest?

This is a must for healing.

Regards,

Kerry

Radio Active Iodine Treatment

I subscribed to this message board about a month ago. I have sat

back and read informational messages and I just want to say thank

you. I know no one but reading these messages, with the exception

of the technical chemistry and physics, it's like listen to my own

thoughts.

So thank you for putting your experiences, you research and

basically part of your lives out there...it is appreciated.

My story is similiar to all of yours...I received radio active

iodine treatment about 11 years ago for Graves Disease....after this

my body and my life has never been the same. Although I invite

growth and change in my life often...I have struggled through the

ever changing thyroid...or lack there of...thyroid saga. I am on 2

grams of Armour thyroid but still feel tired, have joint issues,

depression... yet have palpitations. I am a personal trainer and

fitness instructor with the inability to build muscle or lose

weight. Not too good for business if you know what I mean! My

levels...when they come back from the doctor are for the most part,

always in normal range. Got to love that word " normal " ...whatever

that means!!! But I still feel yucky. Same story different person,

I know...but my question to is...I have just recently moved from

Alabama to Michigan and will be seeing a new endo...which I really

don't trust endos but he comes highly recommended...what questions

should I specifically be asking? Should I ask for different tests

to be done outside of the " normal " blood work up? I know, you're

reading this saying to yourself that she has dealt with this for 11

years and doesn't know what to ask! Actually I have done so much

with different doctors, holistic practioners, nutritionists...you

name it...I just want as much info as I can get!

Thank you again everyone for sharing and your support! You all are

awesome!

[Guest guest]

HI - did you know that working our can be very stressful to your

adrenals? It can cause more problems than it helps if you are low

thyroid/ adrenal.

If your stamina is decreasing (climbing stairs for example) while you

are working out then this is possibly an adrenal issue.

Kerry

Radio Active Iodine Treatment

I subscribed to this message board about a month ago. I have sat

back and read informational messages and I just want to say thank

you. I know no one but reading these messages, with the exception

of the technical chemistry and physics, it's like listen to my own

thoughts.

So thank you for putting your experiences, you research and

basically part of your lives out there...it is appreciated.

My story is similiar to all of yours...I received radio active

iodine treatment about 11 years ago for Graves Disease....after this

my body and my life has never been the same. Although I invite

growth and change in my life often...I have struggled through the

ever changing thyroid...or lack there of...thyroid saga. I am on 2

grams of Armour thyroid but still feel tired, have joint issues,

depression... yet have palpitations. I am a personal trainer and

fitness instructor with the inability to build muscle or lose

weight. Not too good for business if you know what I mean! My

levels...when they come back from the doctor are for the most part,

always in normal range. Got to love that word " normal " ...whatever

that means!!! But I still feel yucky. Same story different person,

I know...but my question to is...I have just recently moved from

Alabama to Michigan and will be seeing a new endo...which I really

don't trust endos but he comes highly recommended...what questions

should I specifically be asking? Should I ask for different tests

to be done outside of the " normal " blood work up? I know, you're

reading this saying to yourself that she has dealt with this for 11

years and doesn't know what to ask! Actually I have done so much

with different doctors, holistic practioners, nutritionists...you

name it...I just want as much info as I can get!

Thank you again everyone for sharing and your support! You all are

awesome!

[Guest guest]

Hi Kerry Ann....

No I wasn't aware of the stress on adrenals due to working out. It makes

sense though...anytime I do a high endurance activity i.e. running races, mini

triathlons, or just teaching too many fitness classes in a day can deplete my

immune system so- that I often become ill...flu like/run down or I end up with a

bladder infection.

I know what you may be thinking...she isn't getting enough rest! I really

do...this thyroid saga has effected my joints, especially lower body...ankles in

particular...to the point that I am limited beyond what I ever thought I would

be....therefore I am forced to rest whether I want to or not. I suppose my

mind, even after dealing with this for 10 years is still in the mind set that I

will make my body do all the things I train for! There really is something to

that...I obsess to no end about my body...always have...that is why I am a work

out junkie. I love to do it so much and hate...and I don't hate many

things...but I hate that I feel like I have little to no energy or desire to do

the things I love so very much. Not to mention it is my job. Which just all

feeds the obsession with working out and food. I thought for the longest time

that I had become lazy...some people really are lazy and now I was one who

happen to have a thing for working out. So I pushed

myself a bit more than most because I thought it was laziness...have to break

that lazy mind set. Of course I never broke it I just ended up sick. I felt

that blaming my thyroid was too easy and it must be something I'm not doing...or

not doing enough of...unfortunately various endos and docs supported that

opinion with me...so here I am today! I see I have been wrong for so long and

have put more stress on my body...although I will never stop working out or

training...I have a new outlook which I obtained from this message board...I am

so very grateful. Well look at me go on and on about myself...sorry to have

dished.

Getting back to the adrenals... I liked the website on adrenals and how to

test them yourself. I am going to do some of those tests...although by the

sounds of it...I can tell mine are in need of some support! As far as the

iodine...I am still reading about that...I have to admit when reading that I

must go off of armour for 5-7 days for treatment scares the h*ll out of me!!

But I am still in the beginning stages of understanding the connections these

have so...I'll keep reading!!!

Thank You,

Thank you again!!!

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote:

HI - did you know that working our can be very stressful to your

adrenals? It can cause more problems than it helps if you are low

thyroid/ adrenal.

If your stamina is decreasing (climbing stairs for example) while you

are working out then this is possibly an adrenal issue.

Kerry

Radio Active Iodine Treatment

I subscribed to this message board about a month ago. I have sat

back and read informational messages and I just want to say thank

you. I know no one but reading these messages, with the exception

of the technical chemistry and physics, it's like listen to my own

thoughts.

So thank you for putting your experiences, you research and

basically part of your lives out there...it is appreciated.

My story is similiar to all of yours...I received radio active

iodine treatment about 11 years ago for Graves Disease....after this

my body and my life has never been the same. Although I invite

growth and change in my life often...I have struggled through the

ever changing thyroid...or lack there of...thyroid saga. I am on 2

grams of Armour thyroid but still feel tired, have joint issues,

depression... yet have palpitations. I am a personal trainer and

fitness instructor with the inability to build muscle or lose

weight. Not too good for business if you know what I mean! My

levels...when they come back from the doctor are for the most part,

always in normal range. Got to love that word " normal " ...whatever

that means!!! But I still feel yucky. Same story different person,

I know...but my question to is...I have just recently moved from

Alabama to Michigan and will be seeing a new endo...which I really

don't trust endos but he comes highly recommended...what questions

should I specifically be asking? Should I ask for different tests

to be done outside of the " normal " blood work up? I know, you're

reading this saying to yourself that she has dealt with this for 11

years and doesn't know what to ask! Actually I have done so much

with different doctors, holistic practioners, nutritionists...you

name it...I just want as much info as I can get!

Thank you again everyone for sharing and your support! You all are

awesome!

[Guest guest]

I am thinking that you have over exercise syndrome--medicating by exercise.

Look at Schwarzbein Principle. I don't think you have to go off Armour for

5-7 days.

Gracia

I know what you may be thinking...she isn't getting enough rest! I really

do...this thyroid saga has effected my joints, especially lower

body...ankles in particular...to the point that I am limited beyond what I

ever thought I would be....therefore I am forced to rest whether I want to

or not. I suppose my mind, even after dealing with this for 10 years is

still in the mind set that I will make my body do all the things I train

for! There really is something to that...I obsess to no end about my

body...always have...that is why I am a work out junkie.

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[Guest guest]

You don't have to go off Armour when you take iodine - some people are

paranoid about iodine - you just have to make sure you don't start off

on too much so if you get a reaction it will be a small one. I didn't

get any reaction I felt I needed it and I still do.

You were very candid about your exercise addiction - the first part is

recognising the problem. Maybe you just need to sit with that for a bit

and feel your options. If you continue with your old mindset of pushing

yourself things can get much worse- believe me - you do not want to get

that sick!

BY the sounds of it some counselling might be just what you need - kind

of a life coach in reverse. Someone to tell you not to exercise

I found that it was only when I stopped rushing around and pushing

myself that I started to feel a whole lot of things that I was avoiding

big time - and not all negative. One wonderful thing I have found is

stillness and quiet. You'll never find that in a gym.

Kerry

Radio Active Iodine Treatment

I subscribed to this message board about a month ago. I have sat

back and read informational messages and I just want to say thank

you. I know no one but reading these messages, with the exception

of the technical chemistry and physics, it's like listen to my own

thoughts.

So thank you for putting your experiences, you research and

basically part of your lives out there...it is appreciated.

My story is similiar to all of yours...I received radio active

iodine treatment about 11 years ago for Graves Disease....after this

my body and my life has never been the same. Although I invite

growth and change in my life often...I have struggled through the

ever changing thyroid...or lack there of...thyroid saga. I am on 2

grams of Armour thyroid but still feel tired, have joint issues,

depression... yet have palpitations. I am a personal trainer and

fitness instructor with the inability to build muscle or lose

weight. Not too good for business if you know what I mean! My

levels...when they come back from the doctor are for the most part,

always in normal range. Got to love that word " normal " ...whatever

that means!!! But I still feel yucky. Same story different person,

I know...but my question to is...I have just recently moved from

Alabama to Michigan and will be seeing a new endo...which I really

don't trust endos but he comes highly recommended...what questions

should I specifically be asking? Should I ask for different tests

to be done outside of the " normal " blood work up? I know, you're

reading this saying to yourself that she has dealt with this for 11

years and doesn't know what to ask! Actually I have done so much

with different doctors, holistic practioners, nutritionists...you

name it...I just want as much info as I can get!

Thank you again everyone for sharing and your support! You all are

awesome!

[Guest guest]

There maybe some truth to that...medicating by exercise...but before the RAI

treatment...I was fit and health...an athlete. So I continue to train and eat

healthy because in my head I am still an athlete even though my body tells a

completely different story. The changes in my body is what has screwed me

up...I went from being fit to fat plain and simple. That is the difficult part

about all of this... I know what to do to be healthy and fit...I do exactly

that...I do not have a body that reflects that...and that drives me insane. And

yes, I am in counseling and will continue until they kick me out! HAHA!

Thanks

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

I am thinking that you have over exercise syndrome--medicating by exercise.

Look at Schwarzbein Principle. I don't think you have to go off Armour for

5-7 days.

Gracia

I know what you may be thinking...she isn't getting enough rest! I really

do...this thyroid saga has effected my joints, especially lower

body...ankles in particular...to the point that I am limited beyond what I

ever thought I would be....therefore I am forced to rest whether I want to

or not. I suppose my mind, even after dealing with this for 10 years is

still in the mind set that I will make my body do all the things I train

for! There really is something to that...I obsess to no end about my

body...always have...that is why I am a work out junkie.

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[Guest guest]

I must have read the information incorrectly about the iodine. I thought your

body had to be complete void of thyroid hormone to begin treatment. Either

way...that is awesome news!

Well, you are the second person to state that I have an exercise addiction. I

have never looked at it that way...make no mistake...I love to work out however

my body will not allow as much as I would like it to. As I stated in an email

to Gracia...before RAI therapy I was fit 5-6 months after...I was fat and have

been unable to change it. Yes it drives me absolutely crazy because I do take

care of myself and I am very good about my diet....yet I have the rear end the

size of a compact car. Crazy, yes it makes me very angry. Don't get me wrong,

I am extremely thankful every day for the health I have and know it could be

worse...but I am human and it drives me crazy.

As far as counseling...I'm in it and will continue to be. Therapy is a

wonderful asset to anyone's life! My therapist has instructed me to listen to

my body....continue to find good doctors and be kind to myself.

Thank you again for your help

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote:

You don't have to go off Armour when you take iodine - some people are

paranoid about iodine - you just have to make sure you don't start off

on too much so if you get a reaction it will be a small one. I didn't

get any reaction I felt I needed it and I still do.

You were very candid about your exercise addiction - the first part is

recognising the problem. Maybe you just need to sit with that for a bit

and feel your options. If you continue with your old mindset of pushing

yourself things can get much worse- believe me - you do not want to get

that sick!

BY the sounds of it some counselling might be just what you need - kind

of a life coach in reverse. Someone to tell you not to exercise

I found that it was only when I stopped rushing around and pushing

myself that I started to feel a whole lot of things that I was avoiding

big time - and not all negative. One wonderful thing I have found is

stillness and quiet. You'll never find that in a gym.

Kerry

Radio Active Iodine Treatment

I subscribed to this message board about a month ago. I have sat

back and read informational messages and I just want to say thank

you. I know no one but reading these messages, with the exception

of the technical chemistry and physics, it's like listen to my own

thoughts.

So thank you for putting your experiences, you research and

basically part of your lives out there...it is appreciated.

My story is similiar to all of yours...I received radio active

iodine treatment about 11 years ago for Graves Disease....after this

my body and my life has never been the same. Although I invite

growth and change in my life often...I have struggled through the

ever changing thyroid...or lack there of...thyroid saga. I am on 2

grams of Armour thyroid but still feel tired, have joint issues,

depression... yet have palpitations. I am a personal trainer and

fitness instructor with the inability to build muscle or lose

weight. Not too good for business if you know what I mean! My

levels...when they come back from the doctor are for the most part,

always in normal range. Got to love that word " normal " ...whatever

that means!!! But I still feel yucky. Same story different person,

I know...but my question to is...I have just recently moved from

Alabama to Michigan and will be seeing a new endo...which I really

don't trust endos but he comes highly recommended...what questions

should I specifically be asking? Should I ask for different tests

to be done outside of the " normal " blood work up? I know, you're

reading this saying to yourself that she has dealt with this for 11

years and doesn't know what to ask! Actually I have done so much

with different doctors, holistic practioners, nutritionists...you

name it...I just want as much info as I can get!

Thank you again everyone for sharing and your support! You all are

awesome!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm a fellow exercise nut and would never encourage someone to give

it up. It's the best medication yet. I understand your frustration

with the body image. I log every calorie and calories burned during

exercise and should be thin and trim (and was before hashi). It's a

fine line, workout enough for the benefit but don't over do it to

the point of injury. How many classes do you teach a day and miles

do you log running? Rather than considering skipping workouts, I

would focus on setting better limits (shorter duration, easier

activity, etc.). Don't worry about the weight if you are like me -

fit but not a supermodel. I am settling for turning the fat into

muscle instead of what the scale says. Once you get the thyroid

balanced, the rest will follow.

Sherry

>

> I am thinking that you have over exercise syndrome--medicating by

exercise.

> Look at Schwarzbein Principle. I don't think you have to go off

Armour for

> 5-7 days.

> Gracia

>

>

> I know what you may be thinking...she isn't getting enough

rest! I really

> do...this thyroid saga has effected my joints, especially lower

> body...ankles in particular...to the point that I am limited

beyond what I

> ever thought I would be....therefore I am forced to rest whether I

want to

> or not. I suppose my mind, even after dealing with this for 10

years is

> still in the mind set that I will make my body do all the things I

train

> for! There really is something to that...I obsess to no end about

my

> body...always have...that is why I am a work out junkie.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sherry!

Thank you for your words of encouragement...I appreciate it very much!

Well, let me start by explaining that I work in the fitness industry. I have

been a personal trainer and a fitness instructor for 18 years. I have a degree

in Exercise Science, hold a certification as a Physical Therapy Asst. and have

to my credit 12 various certifications in personal training, nutrition and

fitness. While it is not my practice to go around giving my resume ...it is my

intent to show that I am not merely an exercise addict but a fitness

professional who has experience in training, rehab and nutrition. I understand

the importance of setting reasonable goals and support the rule of rest being

the most important part of training program. This is not to say that I haven't

gone overboard at times...however my body does not allow me to do half as much

as I would like. I.E. joint pain, fatigue, muscle atrophy, lower back pain,

numbness in my foot...etc!

I guess I would just like to have a piece of what my life used to be before

the RAI...I know we all change with age and our bodies don't respond as they did

when we were young...but it is frustrating to know how hard I work on being

healthy only to show little result...and that doesn't necessarily mean being

thin...I haven't felt healthy or energetic in years! And as far as the scale is

concerned...I don't get on it....I didn't use one when I was thin....I use my

body fat percentage and measurements as a guide. Besides, I lift weights and

muscle, when I can build it, weighs more than fat...even though it takes up far

less space... can cause an increase on the scale...that is why I don't use them.

I just want to be able to be active with out all this thyroid baggage...my days

of running marathons and triathlons maybe over, I don't care...I just want to be

my normal active self. So, I am working on it with a new doctor and a new plan.

So, believe me, I won't skip a

work out...it is either my job or my workout! Make no mistake, I know if I

over do it I will get sick...so in order to maintain my workouts as well as my

job...I have to listen to my body.

Thank you again for your advise. Its good to know that there are a lot of us

fitness nuts out there! I wish you luck in your quest for a healthy fit life!

Let me know if I can help you with your training!

Sherry <hary722001@...> wrote:

Hi ,

I'm a fellow exercise nut and would never encourage someone to give

it up. It's the best medication yet. I understand your frustration

with the body image. I log every calorie and calories burned during

exercise and should be thin and trim (and was before hashi). It's a

fine line, workout enough for the benefit but don't over do it to

the point of injury. How many classes do you teach a day and miles

do you log running? Rather than considering skipping workouts, I

would focus on setting better limits (shorter duration, easier

activity, etc.). Don't worry about the weight if you are like me -

fit but not a supermodel. I am settling for turning the fat into

muscle instead of what the scale says. Once you get the thyroid

balanced, the rest will follow.

Sherry

>

> I am thinking that you have over exercise syndrome--medicating by

exercise.

> Look at Schwarzbein Principle. I don't think you have to go off

Armour for

> 5-7 days.

> Gracia

>

>

> I know what you may be thinking...she isn't getting enough

rest! I really

> do...this thyroid saga has effected my joints, especially lower

> body...ankles in particular...to the point that I am limited

beyond what I

> ever thought I would be....therefore I am forced to rest whether I

want to

> or not. I suppose my mind, even after dealing with this for 10

years is

> still in the mind set that I will make my body do all the things I

train

> for! There really is something to that...I obsess to no end about

my

> body...always have...that is why I am a work out junkie.

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Rebekah,

You sound like the perfect trainer for many women. First, the guys

don't get the female metabolism to begin with. Second, any trainer

in their prime doesn't fully understand the health complications as

we get older. I can't tell you how many trainers push the soy

products as the answer to anyone's weight issues. People who

haven't been there, just don't get the soy concern.

I do have a question for you that is kind of off topic. Last year I

quit high impact aroebics because I was running alot and just

couldn't make the class. Then my achielles started really hurting.

More rest made it worse. I hardly run right now because of it -

really hurts afterwards. Bummer because I need to train for this

year's mini-triathalon and mini-marathon races. But, I tried adding

back high impact aroebics and that is improving it. Any insight

into that? I do stretch religiously either way, so that shouldn't

be a factor.

Glad to meet you.

Sherry

> >

> > I am thinking that you have over exercise syndrome--medicating

by

> exercise.

> > Look at Schwarzbein Principle. I don't think you have to go

off

> Armour for

> > 5-7 days.

> > Gracia

> >

> >

> > I know what you may be thinking...she isn't getting enough

> rest! I really

> > do...this thyroid saga has effected my joints, especially lower

> > body...ankles in particular...to the point that I am limited

> beyond what I

> > ever thought I would be....therefore I am forced to rest whether

I

> want to

> > or not. I suppose my mind, even after dealing with this for 10

> years is

> > still in the mind set that I will make my body do all the things

I

> train

> > for! There really is something to that...I obsess to no end

about

> my

> > body...always have...that is why I am a work out junkie.

> >

> >

> >

> > --

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> 5/9/2006

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Maybe you need more T3 - or testosterone - t3 can help with all things

connected to pain and muscle problems - same with the testosterone.

Kerry

Re: Radio Active Iodine Treatment

Rebekah,

You sound like the perfect trainer for many women. First, the guys

don't get the female metabolism to begin with. Second, any trainer

in their prime doesn't fully understand the health complications as

we get older. I can't tell you how many trainers push the soy

products as the answer to anyone's weight issues. People who

haven't been there, just don't get the soy concern.

I do have a question for you that is kind of off topic. Last year I

quit high impact aroebics because I was running alot and just

couldn't make the class. Then my achielles started really hurting.

More rest made it worse. I hardly run right now because of it -

really hurts afterwards. Bummer because I need to train for this

year's mini-triathalon and mini-marathon races. But, I tried adding

back high impact aroebics and that is improving it. Any insight

into that? I do stretch religiously either way, so that shouldn't

be a factor.

Glad to meet you.

Sherry

> >

> > I am thinking that you have over exercise syndrome--medicating

by

> exercise.

> > Look at Schwarzbein Principle. I don't think you have to go

off

> Armour for

> > 5-7 days.

> > Gracia

> >

> >

> > I know what you may be thinking...she isn't getting enough

> rest! I really

> > do...this thyroid saga has effected my joints, especially lower

> > body...ankles in particular...to the point that I am limited

> beyond what I

> > ever thought I would be....therefore I am forced to rest whether

I

> want to

> > or not. I suppose my mind, even after dealing with this for 10

> years is

> > still in the mind set that I will make my body do all the things

I

> train

> > for! There really is something to that...I obsess to no end

about

> my

> > body...always have...that is why I am a work out junkie.

> >

> >

> >

> > --

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> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Sherry,

I also meant to say what a great idea for Rebekah....I had the personal

trainer from hell. Before I was dx'd I was getting a bit overweight and

very tired - this person told me I was lazy and at the rate I was going

I would never lose weight.

But even if they are not this extreme I often feel that young skinny

women would have no clue what I have been through.

It would be a wonderful service to so many women.

What do you think Rebekah?

Kerry

Re: Radio Active Iodine Treatment

Rebekah,

You sound like the perfect trainer for many women. First, the guys

don't get the female metabolism to begin with. Second, any trainer

in their prime doesn't fully understand the health complications as

we get older. I can't tell you how many trainers push the soy

products as the answer to anyone's weight issues. People who

haven't been there, just don't get the soy concern.

I do have a question for you that is kind of off topic. Last year I

quit high impact aroebics because I was running alot and just

couldn't make the class. Then my achielles started really hurting.

More rest made it worse. I hardly run right now because of it -

really hurts afterwards. Bummer because I need to train for this

year's mini-triathalon and mini-marathon races. But, I tried adding

back high impact aroebics and that is improving it. Any insight

into that? I do stretch religiously either way, so that shouldn't

be a factor.

Glad to meet you.

Sherry

> >

> > I am thinking that you have over exercise syndrome--medicating

by

> exercise.

> > Look at Schwarzbein Principle. I don't think you have to go

off

> Armour for

> > 5-7 days.

> > Gracia

> >

> >

> > I know what you may be thinking...she isn't getting enough

> rest! I really

> > do...this thyroid saga has effected my joints, especially lower

> > body...ankles in particular...to the point that I am limited

> beyond what I

> > ever thought I would be....therefore I am forced to rest whether

I

> want to

> > or not. I suppose my mind, even after dealing with this for 10

> years is

> > still in the mind set that I will make my body do all the things

I

> train

> > for! There really is something to that...I obsess to no end

about

> my

> > body...always have...that is why I am a work out junkie.

> >

> >

> >

> > --

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> 5/9/2006

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kerry. T3 is great for some, not for me. Same with

testosterone. That really messed up my delicate thyroid balance,

sent me hyper and took months to get straight again.

Sherry

> > >

> > > I am thinking that you have over exercise syndrome--medicating

> by

> > exercise.

> > > Look at Schwarzbein Principle. I don't think you have to go

> off

> > Armour for

> > > 5-7 days.

> > > Gracia

> > >

> > >

> > > I know what you may be thinking...she isn't getting enough

> > rest! I really

> > > do...this thyroid saga has effected my joints, especially lower

> > > body...ankles in particular...to the point that I am limited

> > beyond what I

> > > ever thought I would be....therefore I am forced to rest

whether

> I

> > want to

> > > or not. I suppose my mind, even after dealing with this for 10

> > years is

> > > still in the mind set that I will make my body do all the

things

> I

> > train

> > > for! There really is something to that...I obsess to no end

> about

> > my

> > > body...always have...that is why I am a work out junkie.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I have witnessed trainers walk their clients through the Bally

store. When asked about protein powders they push the soy and say

it really comes down to taste. So wrong. I always feel like

pulling their clients aside and giving them the full story. Soy is

great for weight loss, but as we know not for everyone.

Sherry

> > >

> > > I am thinking that you have over exercise syndrome--medicating

> by

> > exercise.

> > > Look at Schwarzbein Principle. I don't think you have to go

> off

> > Armour for

> > > 5-7 days.

> > > Gracia

> > >

> > >

> > > I know what you may be thinking...she isn't getting enough

> > rest! I really

> > > do...this thyroid saga has effected my joints, especially lower

> > > body...ankles in particular...to the point that I am limited

> > beyond what I

> > > ever thought I would be....therefore I am forced to rest

whether

> I

> > want to

> > > or not. I suppose my mind, even after dealing with this for 10

> > years is

> > > still in the mind set that I will make my body do all the

things

> I

> > train

> > > for! There really is something to that...I obsess to no end

> about

> > my

> > > body...always have...that is why I am a work out junkie.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

you need adrenal meds.

Gracia

Thanks Kerry. T3 is great for some, not for me. Same with

testosterone. That really messed up my delicate thyroid balance,

sent me hyper and took months to get straight again.

Sherry

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