Guest guest Posted January 5, 2003 Report Share Posted January 5, 2003 Hello, i am new to the group and would love some advice! I have been trying to treat my postpartum autoimmune thyroiditis without drugs with the help of a natural doctor. My thyroid peroxidase antibodies went down from 9 to 7 in four months. however 2 months later they are up to 11. Normal is below 2. so this is very concerning, especially as i want to have another baby sometime. my first is ove 2 years old. I am 38 and dont have much time! Also my last menstrual cycle was 43 days (usually 30 days). i have never had such a long one and am very worried about how things are looking. I have dr clarks book and want to order a zapper. can anyone recommend where to order one that is effective but not too expensive. any other help would be greatly valued. thank you, Birdie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2003 Report Share Posted January 5, 2003 >so this is very concerning, especially as i want to have another baby sometime. Birdie, do antibodies halt getting pregnant?? Also,what's a zapper? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 > I have dr clarks book and want to order a zapper. can anyone > recommend where to order one that is effective but not too expensive. any other help would be greatly valued. > thank you, > Birdie.>> I haven't read Hildas book for awhile - but if I remember right, her zapper is for parasites. Do you believe you have parasites and this is causing the Thyroiditis? (there's some theories supporting this...) Her treatment is pretty controversal but there is a website that is dedicated to her theories: www.curezone.com - and I believe they have a bullentin board where you could ask about zappers. There are many herbal and suppliments you can do for thyroiditis - but they are not quick fixes. Also, I understand that antibodies can fluctuate. Do you have symptoms? Some people with high antibodies don't have symptoms - others do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Hi Vivian, Welcome to the group - I am sorry to say. My very serious advice to you: Go see a hepatologist at a Learning Medical Hospital. This disease is rare and if there is one thing I have heard and learned of (the hard way) is that not all doctors know how to treat this condition. A learning hospital is your best assurance that they are abreast in the current teachings to deal with AIH. Most docs make you get an ultrasound as a first approach to answer unknown elevated liver levels. This really will not show anything for AIH. My liver was the size of a watermelon and the ultrasound just showed it looking enlarged, that's all they can tell. A biopsy can tell what stage of cirrhosis you are in, however if you are under attack, or levels are elevated your reading will likely show some level of cirrhosis. Plus you may have had AIH for years and just not have known about it. Once the liver returns to normal size, after treatment, they usually do another biopsy. ALSO, a biopsy can often have the antibody they are looking for in diagnosis. There are two types, 1)transjugular (what I had done -if I survived it, anyone can!)and 2) through the side, below your rib. Read more about it here: http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health/digest/pubs/liverbiopsy/liverbiopsy.h tm 1 in 3 go into total remission never needing meds again, 7 out of 10 go into remission with medication, and the rest need meds forever, especially if enzymes decide to elevate for whatever reason. I got this info from one of the few resources on the web for AIH. I wish you much success in your battle. I am newly diagnoses this past June of '02. Stay in touch and God Bless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Quick question so 1 out of every 3 people never need any medication at all and their liver goes back to normal??? I never get a straight answer on this stuff. I know that it is trial and error but, I am wondering if this may only happen to me once and never come back again. As soon as I went on the medication everything returned to normal. I am now off the prednisone and only taking 50 mg of immuran every other day. Do you know at what point I should ask to go off all the medication?? I have only been on treatment for 7 months but, don't want to be dependent on meds for the rest of my life. I guess this is not such a quick question after all?????? Any ideas??? I guess I am just wondering if I will ever go off the medicine all together and what my chances are???? -----Original Message-----From: Adriene Lea <agreenup@...> [mailto:agreenup@...]Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: [ ] Re: hello and helpHi Vivian,Welcome to the group - I am sorry to say. My very serious advice to you: Go see a hepatologist at a Learning Medical Hospital. This disease is rare and if there is one thing I have heard and learned of (the hard way) is that not all doctors know how to treat this condition. A learning hospital is your best assurance that they are abreast in the current teachings to deal with AIH.Most docs make you get an ultrasound as a first approach to answer unknown elevated liver levels. This really will not show anything for AIH. My liver was the size of a watermelon and the ultrasound just showed it looking enlarged, that's all they can tell.A biopsy can tell what stage of cirrhosis you are in, however if you are under attack, or levels are elevated your reading will likely show some level of cirrhosis. Plus you may have had AIH for years and just not have known about it. Once the liver returns to normal size, after treatment, they usually do another biopsy. ALSO, a biopsy can often have the antibody they are looking for in diagnosis. There are two types, 1)transjugular (what I had done -if I survived it, anyone can!)and 2) through the side, below your rib. Read more about it here: http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health/digest/pubs/liverbiopsy/liverbiopsy.htm1 in 3 go into total remission never needing meds again, 7 out of 10 go into remission with medication, and the rest need meds forever, especially if enzymes decide to elevate for whatever reason.I got this info from one of the few resources on the web for AIH. I wish you much success in your battle. I am newly diagnoses this past June of '02.Stay in touch and God Bless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 > Hello everyone! > Vivian glad you wrote in. There are a lot of internet sites that will help you. Jerry, Harper, and others have a long list. Hope they will reply. I just want you to know you have come to the best place to get support. We love you already. You are starting to deal with what we have been dealing with for a long time. It is not an overnight thing to get better. Just hang with us-we all have at least one finger on the last knot on our rope. The cat picture comes to mind-the one where the cat is holding on by its claws to a limb. Underneath it says-Hang in there! Keep asking questions of the doctor and all of us. OR Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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