Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 You just found Gail's thyroid tips? I have had the link in my files for a long time, she has done a great job for sure. Gracia > > This woman Gail has done a wonderful job here. I was so thrilled to > find it last night!!!!! So much info all from one area. I just had to > post it--just in case someone couldn't log into the link---write > anytime and please tell me what you are taking again--in case someone > else wants to know!!!! tina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Yesterday she had another melt down--where she calls crying like crazy. She has 3 finals on Friday and she doesn't think she will do well. She was frantic on the phone. This quarter (10 weeks) to learn some very tough classes and she is not herself, worried over the weight gain--she is still gaining now at 145ish most likely for a 5/1 this is not good. I tell her stop worrying about the weight gain--I also listened to my own advice for Kim and ordered M more digestive enzymes, more adrenal energy vitamins and probiotics for her as well now that we discovered she has yeast. Yeast can also cause a lot of her problems!! We must fight that now. I also sent her the letter to Kim I have to constantly explain things because her retention level is just not there. I don't know if it's because of all the math/science that she has to hold in her head or she just can't focus on it. Again I told her you must come home for the summer so we can begin more treatements on you. And take you to some doctors that I finally found. Gail's site was great because she could read it all in one place. M just doesn't want to deal with this at a time when she would love to have fun in college and date---she so wants to date. But I tell her all the time you are so lucky just to still be in college, I think if she had gone untreated this year she would have never made it. I want her home so she can rest, we can juice veggies everyday and she can walk---and take all the right meds!! She needs to get balanced that is the main problem. She will not take some of the medication she may need so this is where I need a doctor to tell her it's ok. Hubby finally told her how much longer do you think you can go on this way?? She has got to put herself first and stop doing everything to please others. I am going to have to put my foot down!!! and that is going to be difficult!!!!! thanks for asking--sometimes I do need to vent as well!!!! > Oh! Poor M - she's so young and to have to deal with all this is a shame. Wish she could just concentrate on being a college student.... Thankfully, she has a Mom who truly has her best interests at heart and is working so hard to get her well! > > I too found Gail's site extremely informative - the information there is wonderful, as Sheila mentioned it'll take a while to go through it all. I now KNOW I have adrenal issues and knowing is part of the battle. > > take care, > > > > > From: " tina83862 " <tina83862@y...> > > Date: 2004/03/01 Mon PM 04:55:33 EST > > hypothyroidism > > Subject: Re: Gail's thyroid tips > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Very well could be --but she needs testing so we can check. Many reasons why she has not upped her dose--she wants to cure this-- taking more hormone will mean the thryoid will make less than what it does now. So she is trying to heal herself with all the nutritional supplements that the thyroid needs. Other reasons she is still very adrenal--so she is taking that as well--trying to find a balance for both of them to work together. If she were home we would do only adrenal again, I think we ended that too soon. What we did from Aug. to Dec. really worked. She got her period and now nothing since Dec. So the armour may not be what she really needs even though it is getting her though this time period. I think we needs much more testing, start adrenal therapy full time without thyroid--while giving iodine and thyroid support without hormone--get retested again and see our numbers. The adreanls must be more stressed this time because of the added thyroid hormones--or else she would be getting her period. Adreanls are directly related to her female hormones. M's condition is not the typical thyroid patient for she is very mixed adrenal/thyroid and now she has yeast which is very immune related. She may very well have auto-immune problems that went undetected from her tests in that case she will be on hormones much longer---maybe forever. But the chance that this started from her adrenals based on her diet and t3 problems indicated it started from adrenal fatigue which led into thyroid. The chance at curing this is there even though it's slight--we have to try. The thyrodine; even though it's more hormones is not just thyroid--it hits the majority of other endocrine glands, she has now added that back into her diet. As well as the isocort. For the weight gain the digestive enzymes should really help, she should of been on them the entire time. She needs much more C for the yeast as well. Her tempertures are better and her blood pressure is up so this is better than what she was before. We talked a lot about adding more armour and she does not want to do that. She wants to target all of her glands since she is so mixed. It's very difficult to judge that is why she must get new tests so we can see what she is compared to what she was. In my mind I think she has to try the cortef for 3 months--get that adrenal healed or else all of this is just chasing and bandaiding the real problem. -- In hypothyroidism , " Gracia " <circe@g...> wrote: > > Tina, if she is at 60 mg of Armour it is too little. All the vitamins in > the world won't help if she is not on the right dose. Sounds like she > needs more thyroid. > Gracia > > > Yesterday she had another melt down--where she calls crying like > > crazy. She has 3 finals on Friday and she doesn't think she will do > > well. She was frantic on the phone. This quarter (10 weeks) to learn > > some very tough classes and she is not herself, worried over the > > weight gain--she is still gaining now at 145ish most likely for a 5/1 > > this is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 She did add more armour and felt too hyper--took one grain in the morning--I think she got scared--problem is she should have not jumped up from a half to one so fast. Even though it doesn't sound like that big of a deal going from 30-to 60mgs. I have since read you should take even smaller doses when you try and increase. Must of been the increase in the t3. She is not a easy child to convience. I've been going at it with her since last year. The yeast will defiantly cause a lot more problems with this illness, so we are now working on that as well. It just went undetected. Supplements got her period back in Dec. so I am a firm believer in them especially when it comes to healing the body and giving it what minerals and nutrients are missing from the diet. We found low levels of idodine in hers which is directly related to her thyroid problem. I really like to get to the source of the problem and go from there. She does not want to take pills the rest of her life and since she is not Hashimoto's (which is questionable now) she will continue to try and heal---many have succeeded this way. But you know I totally appreciate any advice--I copy the letters and send them to her. I view everyone's opinions on this problem!!!!! tina > > > > > > Tina, if she is at 60 mg of Armour it is too little. All the > > vitamins in > > > the world won't help if she is not on the right dose. Sounds like > > she > > > needs more thyroid. > > > Gracia > > > > > > > Yesterday she had another melt down--where she calls crying like > > > > crazy. She has 3 finals on Friday and she doesn't think she will > > do > > > > well. She was frantic on the phone. This quarter (10 weeks) to > > learn > > > > some very tough classes and she is not herself, worried over the > > > > weight gain--she is still gaining now at 145ish most likely for a > > 5/1 > > > > this is not good. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 Yep you are right and I am trying to convience her---she is very stubborn. Look how long it took me to get her to use armour. It is bringing her better mental clarity. > > In my experience, self-treating, I needed to get the right dose of Armour > right away to feel well. But she might need real adrenal meds once she has > real thyroid meds. There is a big difference between OTC glandulars and > meds. > Gracia > > > She did add more armour and felt too hyper--took one grain in the > > morning--I think she got scared--problem is she should have not > > jumped up from a half to one so fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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