Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 I think it is better to feel well though! That's the idea isn't it? I think it's weird that the doc is stuck on this. Many people get pregnant taking thyroid meds all at once. Gracia > I feel much better taking all the Armour (90 mg) in the a.m. When I split > the dose I am not functional. I thought thyroid hormone was normally > highest in the morning. > Gracia > > > Me too, I feel non functional. He claims though that it is much healthier > for the body to have a steady dose throughout the day. > > And that a patient of his did this, and after ten years of trying to get pg, > she got pregnant the next month! > xoxo > Kitty > ps so I am trying to do the split dosage... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 then does that mean if I felt hugely better after taking T3 along with the T4 that my adrenals are ok? I'm not saying I'm where I want to be as far as my health. I am saying I felt like I was dying before thyroid hormones. With just T4, I felt better, but still had a LOT of symptoms. With T3, I felt a huge improvement. I still have a lot of symptoms...just not as severe (except for brain fog, dry skin and constipation...those are still really bad). I'm also more irritable than I used to be. Also, I do have a lot of energy, but i am tired all the time. my endo says it's from not sleeping enough. (I sleep 6-8 hours...depending) I am tired. I can work my second job again, but it's not easy for me. I push myself. I have a lot of adrenal symptoms. I'm confused. are my adrenals okay then since T3 has made me feel better? thanks. sheila --- Gracia <circe@...> wrote: > > the test for poor adrenal function is that either > you can take huge amounts > of thyroid meds and have no effect, or you feel > worse, especially with T3. > I have seen many people on these boards say they > cannot tolerate Armour, > when in fact they had an adrenal problem, which > taking Armour exposed. > Gracia > > > We have had one poster go into detail how she is > allergic to armour. > > I have read at least 4 or more people say they > can't take it with > > hashi's and I know I have posted info on this as > well. > > > > But you are 100% right for those patients who have > to keep on > > increasing their thyroid meds they have to look > into adrenals, we all > > have mentioned this many times over. > > > > But today's doctors just keep on increasing their > dose instead of > > searching for why they are getting worse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No I don't know this!!! Actually no thyroid > med will work for her > > until > > > she gets adrenals treated. > > > Gracia > > > > > > > You know as well I have learned that not every > Hashi's patient > > with > > > > this many allergies as Shelia has can take > armour, with all her > > other > > > > conditions I would not want to throw her body > into more reactions. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 thank you...i love the name Isabel... Pres. Bush is going to be very close to the campus today. They are closing all these streets downtown. I wish they cancelled school. I don't want to see Bush. I just want to skip school. I'm wore out after yesterday. how are you these days? hugs, sheila Gracia <circe@...> wrote: Tina, I am Gracia and Bev is someone on another list, so I prefer you call me Gracia! (Mostly you call me ) Gracia Isabel > sheila you make me smile---you are so funny and I am so glad you send > us all so much info as well--And Bev--sorry I always call you Gracia-- > which would you perfer?? > > I am having a virus day on my pc--if you guys get that new one--shut > off your modem right away and then get someone else to copy the " fix " > for you at norton.com from burning it onto a cd ---using my virus > scan from norton did not do the trick--had to get the fix. It was a > duzzy of a virus--- > > this one does not copy your email lists it just goes into your files > and speads out the worm---uggg!!! > > Today was the day it mutated and hit so many PC so even though I run > a live-update from norton it was missed today. > > so if you get anything in email from someone you don't know--delete > it and I ususally do but thought it was from work---it looked that > real!!!! > > ha! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Thanks Gracia, For the great advice, I know nothing about adrenals and a specialist in thyroid concerns brushed me off back to my GP w/o tests. Know any good doctors in the Seattle area?? As to an earlier question:Yes, my TSH has been significantly wrong in many directions each month when tested since last OCT when they found me VERY hypothyroid on a TSH test. (they had tested me before so it wasn't something I'd had long) Since then, I've been on Levoxyl, but my dose changes monthly as I feel much better on high doses but my body keeps going hypothyroid even on moderate or low doses. Even the specialist is somewhat perplexed--they say I am having " adjustment problems " and that this will settle down?? Health and happiness, > > Actually hypothyroidism IS your problem, as well as hypoadrenals. You are > very poorly treated, that's why you are on tons of meds. Find a doc who > knows about hormones. > http://www.brodabarnes.org > http://www.geocities.com/thyroide > Gracia > > > My name is le and I am a student at the > > University of Washington in Political Science. > > > > I am unsure if I belong to this group, because I have medical > > problems that are severe and separate from my mental ones, though > > they feed into each other. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 , I know it sounds bizarre but stay away from the " specialists " , endos etc. There are great docs in the Seattle area(I think). You must become proactive. best docs come from http://www.brodabarnes.org (you will have to pay $15 for info packet and doc referral. look for docs at http://www.armourthyroid.com http://www.tahoma-clinic.com located in Kent WA Gracia > Thanks Gracia, > > For the great advice, I know nothing about adrenals and a specialist > in thyroid concerns brushed me off back to my GP w/o tests. Know any > good doctors in the Seattle area?? > > As to an earlier question:Yes, my TSH has been significantly wrong in > many directions each month when tested since last OCT when they found > me VERY hypothyroid on a TSH test. (they had tested me before so it > wasn't something I'd had long) Since then, I've been on Levoxyl, but > my dose changes monthly as I feel much better on high doses but my > body keeps going hypothyroid even on moderate or low doses. Even the > specialist is somewhat perplexed--they say I am having " adjustment > problems " and that this will settle down?? > > Health and happiness, > > > > > > Actually hypothyroidism IS your problem, as well as hypoadrenals. > You are > > very poorly treated, that's why you are on tons of meds. Find a > doc who > > knows about hormones. > > http://www.brodabarnes.org > > http://www.geocities.com/thyroide > > Gracia > > > > > My name is le and I am a student at the > > > University of Washington in Political Science. > > > > > > I am unsure if I belong to this group, because I have medical > > > problems that are severe and separate from my mental ones, though > > > they feed into each other. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 hi Gracia...i would love to go to a Broda doc...none in our state...i'll check the other site later. thanks, sheila Gracia <circe@...> wrote: Your mom, my mom and Sheila's mom need Armour plus adrenal hormones. These hormones are cheap and give a person their life back but so sadly it's almost impossible to get proper treatment. Might be able to find a competent doc from http://www.brodabarnes.org http://www.womensinternational.com Gracia > you need armour to feel much better if synthroid is not doing it for > you!!! or try any mutli- glandular product--you will feel the > difference in a week!! > > My mom and your story are almost identical too! Except she has high > BP and the doctors tell her they don't know how to lower it--I keep > on begging her to tell her doctors to give her armour!!! makes me > totally crazy they won't. > > > > I just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of the > > information/experiences with this group. > > > > I had what was diagnosed as the flu, then pneumonia in > > November/December. Went back to the doc in January because several > > of the symptoms weren't going away. At that appointment they did > > lab work and diagnosed hypothyroidism and said that was causing > > all of my symptoms (weight gain, fatigue, dry skin, etc.). I've > > been on synthroid (50 mcg) since that time. > > Went back for a follow-up a couple times since January. The first > > time back after starting synthroid, the lab results showed that the > > dosage was correct, but the symptoms still weren't going away. Did > > some additional testing to rule out lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and > > a few other illnesses. This time the lab results indicated chronic > > mono. So then the doc said that was causing the continued > symptoms. > > > > The next follow-up my doc was out, so had to see one of her > > associates...........his words of wisdom, " You'll feel better some > > day, my wife gets tired too " . > > > > Since I'm 39 and his wife is probably in her late 60's early 70's, > I > > was not impressed at the comparison and he was absolutely no help > at > > all. > > > > Needless to say, I'm extremely frustrated with this entire > > situation. I am happy to have found this group and know that there > > are others dealing with the same frustrations. > > > > Angie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Isn't it Gracia????? We are still on our Green Monster High (and are HUGE Red Sox Fans!!) If you ever get the opportunity to get in the drawing or obtain Green Monster seats - DO IT!!!! It's an experience of a lifetime!!! take care neighbor!!! love the big city - but couldn't live there! Re: - Lotsa fun! I am 4 hours from Fenway. It is special to go to get out of the woods and go to Boston. Gracia > I found I had the energy I needed yesterday -- we went into Boston to Fenway Park for the Red Sox game .......we had Green Monster Seats -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Gracia, thank you for all the information you have so patiently given me. I really appreciate it. I tried to click on your website several times and I cannot get it to come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 really? you mean http://www.geocities.com/thyroide ? It's not my website but it's a good place to get to other places like support groups, books, doctors and ordering meds online. My friend in France developed it b/c she has been housebound for several years following RAI. Now she is being treated by famous European endo Hertoghe and slowly getting well. Gracia > > Gracia, thank you for all the information you have so patiently given me. I really appreciate it. > I tried to click on your website several times and I cannot get it to come up. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 ((((thanks and all)))) thanks for being here. Dear Gracia, Our heart goes out to you. Know that you are surrounded with love from the group. Hugs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 hmmmm--what? I would like to think of myself as smart! I certainly did not mean to " diss " you. I have limited time these days. thanks for the kind comments from others. yes my intentions are good, so sorry to be misunderstood. Gracia Being that I am new to the group, Gracia should not have been so smart...... She was disrespectful to me on my first post! Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: , if you are new to the group, you might possibly want to get to know every one before making such a disrespectful remark. Gracia's opinions are, admittedly in the minority, but she has a good heart and means only the best for everyone. Roni <res075oh@...> wrote: Gracia certainly has some strange [to me] ideas about iodine and allopathic medicine, but I think she truly means well. Those of you who have been on this list a while know she really went through hell; and can probably appreciate that. Most of have probably noticed that sometimes we seem to come across in a message in a manner totally different than we intended. > > Recent Activity a.. 21New Members Visit Your Group Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Moderator Central Join and receive produce updates. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 I probably disagree with Gracia more than about anybody on this list, but I can tell you for a fact that she DOES NOT make a habit of being a smart mouth, uncaring person. Sometimes we all come across in print different than we intended. It's generally better as a newbie on any list to kind of get the " lay of the land " before making a hasty judgment about someone you've never met. At the same time I would urge EXTREME caution if you are considering any of her alternative recommendations for treatment. Best of luck, > Re: Gracia > <hypothyroidism/message/38179;_ylc=X3oDMTJxa3ZkMzQ\ 0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzgxNzkEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIwOTY5NTA0MA--> > > > > Posted by: " B " babycakes442006@... > <mailto:babycakes442006@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Gracia> > babycakes442006 <babycakes442006> > > > Thu May 1, 2008 3:29 pm (PDT) > > I thought what she said was smart mouthed and I am not that kind of a > person.... > > > > Roni Molin <matchermaam@... <mailto:matchermaam%40>> wrote: > I didn't catch the first post, as I have been having difficulties of > my own, but I would not > think that she said something so devestating that you had to be > ungracious. JMHO. > > Roni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 She has never met me and judged me on the first question I posted! So quit being so hard on me!!!!!!! <res075oh@...> wrote: I probably disagree with Gracia more than about anybody on this list, but I can tell you for a fact that she DOES NOT make a habit of being a smart mouth, uncaring person. Sometimes we all come across in print different than we intended. It's generally better as a newbie on any list to kind of get the " lay of the land " before making a hasty judgment about someone you've never met. At the same time I would urge EXTREME caution if you are considering any of her alternative recommendations for treatment. Best of luck, > Re: Gracia > <hypothyroidism/message/38179;_ylc=X3oDMTJxa3ZkMzQ\ 0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzgxNzkEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIwOTY5NTA0MA--> > > > > Posted by: " B " babycakes442006@... > <mailto:babycakes442006@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Gracia> > babycakes442006 <babycakes442006> > > > Thu May 1, 2008 3:29 pm (PDT) > > I thought what she said was smart mouthed and I am not that kind of a > person.... > > > > Roni Molin <matchermaam@... <mailto:matchermaam%40>> wrote: > I didn't catch the first post, as I have been having difficulties of > my own, but I would not > think that she said something so devestating that you had to be > ungracious. JMHO. > > Roni --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 B wrote: She has never met me and judges me on the first question I posted! So quit being hard on me!!!!!!! Don't feel bad, we all want to help here that's why we are all on this group Don't take anything personal. I read all the posts i think and you mentioned how you were healthy, then told how you workout etc, but still feel bad. Gracia said, " hi How can you be in excellent health and " feel so bad " ?_ It was a question not to be taken in a bad way. Sorry you feel beat up on, just hang in there and we will try and help you through your bad times. Let's move on PLEASE! cw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I had no intent to be " hard on you " . If I was please accept my apologies. MOL what I was doing was trying to provide you some helpful advice. So sorry it didn't come across that way. > > Re: Gracia > <hypothyroidism/message/38203;_ylc=X3oDMTJxdTNhMzg\ 1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzgyMDMEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIwOTgwOTQ0OQ--> > > > > Posted by: " B " babycakes442006@... > <mailto:babycakes442006@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Gracia> > babycakes442006 <babycakes442006> > > > Fri May 2, 2008 12:54 pm (PDT) > > She has never met me and judged me on the first question I posted! > So quit being so hard on me!!!!!!! > > > > <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote: > I probably disagree with Gracia more than about anybody on this list, > but I can tell you for a fact that she DOES NOT make a habit of being a > smart mouth, uncaring person. Sometimes we all come across in print > different than we intended. It's generally better as a newbie on any > list to kind of get the " lay of the land " before making a hasty judgment > about someone you've never met. > > At the same time I would urge EXTREME caution if you are considering any > of her alternative recommendations for treatment. > > Best of luck, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 wow I am sorry she is going through this. the only group that has cancer and tumor patients on it is the iodine group .iodine http://www.breastcancerchoices.org might have some info http://www.iodine4health.com high dose iodine is used to shrink tumors, cysts etc. HTH? Gracia Gracia, i know you are on several groups and want to know which one you suggest for my mother who has a pituitary tumor. She is experiencing symptoms like a swollen, tender breast. She was lactating before they removed the tumor a few years ago. Her prolactin levels were always normal despite this. All of her levels (pituitary and everything it controls) were always within normal range even though she had symptoms. thanks crystal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1434 - Release Date: 5/15/2008 7:24 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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