Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 I left crying if that is any indication of how it went, lol. He told me my hypothyroidism is under control (because my TSH is 1.whatever) and that the problem is elsewhere. There will be no T3 test of any type and adrenal fatigue wasn't considered. He is testing for nutritional deficiencies, which I have been concerned with (iron, B12), and celiac disease. The most disturbing part, I asked about Armour. His whole demeanor changed, he said I am to stay away from Armour, it isn't pure or something like that. I think he even said it was dangerous. I'm going to check what else I am being tested for, he didn't want to talk to me about it until after he had the results. At least it is all circled on a sheet and not illegibly written out. I know nutritional deficiencies can cause the fatigue and such, and I know I am most likely low on a few key things, but what about anxiety, depression and rage? He commented that my HDL of 83 is wonderful, but what about its connection with adrenal fatigue? I'm so frustrated, I don't feel like looking for a doctor even though I know I should. I feel like I should find a good mutivitamin and set up an appointment with a psychiatrist. Val, I know I shouldn't stress stuff like housework, but when I see the house getting so messy, it drains me even more, and make me want to do less. When it is clean I feel so much better. Our kids are 2 and 5, my husband helps a lot, but he is getting overwhelmed too. Our apartment is small and clutters up quickly. A couple weeks ago, after finding dirty clothes in the corner of my 5 year old daughter's bedroom, I told her she needs to put her clothing in the dirty basket if she wants it to be cleaned. This morning she said to me, " You know what's silly? I have been putting my dirty clothes in the basket, but they still aren't getting washed " lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 you will never get Armour from an endo. http://www.armourthyroid.com Gracia > > > I left crying if that is any indication of how it went, lol. > > He told me my hypothyroidism is under control (because my TSH is > 1.whatever) and that the problem is elsewhere. There will be no T3 > test of any type and adrenal fatigue wasn't considered. He is > testing for nutritional deficiencies, which I have been concerned > with (iron, B12), and celiac disease. > > The most disturbing part, I asked about Armour. His whole demeanor > changed, he said I am to stay away from Armour, it isn't pure or > something like that. I think he even said it was dangerous. > > I'm going to check what else I am being tested for, he didn't want to > talk to me about it until after he had the results. At least it is > all circled on a sheet and not illegibly written out. > > I know nutritional deficiencies can cause the fatigue and such, and I > know I am most likely low on a few key things, but what about > anxiety, depression and rage? > > He commented that my HDL of 83 is wonderful, but what about its > connection with adrenal fatigue? I'm so frustrated, I don't feel > like looking for a doctor even though I know I should. > > I feel like I should find a good mutivitamin and set up an > appointment with a psychiatrist. > > Val, I know I shouldn't stress stuff like housework, but when I see > the house getting so messy, it drains me even more, and make me want > to do less. When it is clean I feel so much better. Our kids are 2 > and 5, my husband helps a lot, but he is getting overwhelmed too. Our > apartment is small and clutters up quickly. > > A couple weeks ago, after finding dirty clothes in the corner of my 5 > year old daughter's bedroom, I told her she needs to put her clothing > in the dirty basket if she wants it to be cleaned. This morning she > said to me, " You know what's silly? I have been putting my dirty > clothes in the basket, but they still aren't getting washed " lol > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Hi , Sorry your visit with an endo was not worth the visit. Has I have said elsewhere on this site today, endo's are so far up their own rear end. Sorry he made you feel bad for showing some intelligence regarding your condition. Your family sounds delightful and supportive, hang in there. Ignore what the endo says about not needing adrenal support. If you can find and afford an alternative therapist find someone who will treat you holistically, and who can provide safe advice about stuff compatible with thyroid meds. B12 is an absolute must. It is the one Bvitamin we hypo's simply must have. I take up to 4000mgs a day in two doses. Good for my depression and brain fog. Little short of miraculous in its effect. , don't be disheartened by the bad experience with the endo. He just needs to get a life, and stop seeing it out of his own rear end!!! You are an intelligent thinking human being and worthy of much better care than you got from that idiot. Val --- Original Message ----- From: " Gracia " <circe@...> <hypothyroidism > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:11 PM Subject: Re: My visit with Endo... > > > you will never get Armour from an endo. > http://www.armourthyroid.com > Gracia > > > > > > > I left crying if that is any indication of how it went, lol. > > > > He told me my hypothyroidism is under control (because my TSH is > > 1.whatever) and that the problem is elsewhere. There will be no T3 > > test of any type and adrenal fatigue wasn't considered. He is > > testing for nutritional deficiencies, which I have been concerned > > with (iron, B12), and celiac disease. > > > > The most disturbing part, I asked about Armour. His whole demeanor > > changed, he said I am to stay away from Armour, it isn't pure or > > something like that. I think he even said it was dangerous. > > > > I'm going to check what else I am being tested for, he didn't want to > > talk to me about it until after he had the results. At least it is > > all circled on a sheet and not illegibly written out. > > > > I know nutritional deficiencies can cause the fatigue and such, and I > > know I am most likely low on a few key things, but what about > > anxiety, depression and rage? > > > > He commented that my HDL of 83 is wonderful, but what about its > > connection with adrenal fatigue? I'm so frustrated, I don't feel > > like looking for a doctor even though I know I should. > > > > I feel like I should find a good mutivitamin and set up an > > appointment with a psychiatrist. > > > > Val, I know I shouldn't stress stuff like housework, but when I see > > the house getting so messy, it drains me even more, and make me want > > to do less. When it is clean I feel so much better. Our kids are 2 > > and 5, my husband helps a lot, but he is getting overwhelmed too. Our > > apartment is small and clutters up quickly. > > > > A couple weeks ago, after finding dirty clothes in the corner of my 5 > > year old daughter's bedroom, I told her she needs to put her clothing > > in the dirty basket if she wants it to be cleaned. This morning she > > said to me, " You know what's silly? I have been putting my dirty > > clothes in the basket, but they still aren't getting washed " lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 But, why is that? This Endo seemed to disapprove of Armour on a very personal level. He appeared fearful when I said " Armour " . I realize some religions don't allow you to consume pork products, could that have anything to do with it? I have been to that website, there are a few local doctors who will prescribe it. > > you will never get Armour from an endo. > http://www.armourthyroid.com > Gracia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Hi .....Lose that endo NOW!!!!!! I mean phone his office and tell them you want your records and that his service is substandard (or whatever gives you the most satisfaction but don't give up - find a top doc from Shomon's site or find an osteopath and get the help you need. Otherwise self medication is an option. If you don't take vitamins already I suggest you do get some good ones - we don't absorb nutrients very well with these problems. But forget the shrink!!!!!!! A good counsellor would be better just for someone to talk to if you don't have friends close by. Kerry My visit with Endo... I left crying if that is any indication of how it went, lol. He told me my hypothyroidism is under control (because my TSH is 1.whatever) and that the problem is elsewhere. There will be no T3 test of any type and adrenal fatigue wasn't considered. He is testing for nutritional deficiencies, which I have been concerned with (iron, B12), and celiac disease. The most disturbing part, I asked about Armour. His whole demeanor changed, he said I am to stay away from Armour, it isn't pure or something like that. I think he even said it was dangerous. I'm going to check what else I am being tested for, he didn't want to talk to me about it until after he had the results. At least it is all circled on a sheet and not illegibly written out. I know nutritional deficiencies can cause the fatigue and such, and I know I am most likely low on a few key things, but what about anxiety, depression and rage? He commented that my HDL of 83 is wonderful, but what about its connection with adrenal fatigue? I'm so frustrated, I don't feel like looking for a doctor even though I know I should. I feel like I should find a good mutivitamin and set up an appointment with a psychiatrist. Val, I know I shouldn't stress stuff like housework, but when I see the house getting so messy, it drains me even more, and make me want to do less. When it is clean I feel so much better. Our kids are 2 and 5, my husband helps a lot, but he is getting overwhelmed too. Our apartment is small and clutters up quickly. A couple weeks ago, after finding dirty clothes in the corner of my 5 year old daughter's bedroom, I told her she needs to put her clothing in the dirty basket if she wants it to be cleaned. This morning she said to me, " You know what's silly? I have been putting my dirty clothes in the basket, but they still aren't getting washed " lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 , I think we have the same endo! Are you in Denver???? I have decided that I am going to another physician because I know that what I am feeling is NOT normal and that all I am being treated for are the lab findings and not any of the side-effects. It's important to remember what you felt like before and to not settle for something that you normally wouldn't. I know exactly how you feel, but you have to believe that there is someone else that can help you and no matter how exhausting the change may feel in the beginning, I am looking forward to making mysel available (body and mind) for my family and friends. Please do something...... Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote: Hi .....Lose that endo NOW!!!!!! I mean phone his office and tell them you want your records and that his service is substandard (or whatever gives you the most satisfaction but don't give up - find a top doc from Shomon's site or find an osteopath and get the help you need. Otherwise self medication is an option. If you don't take vitamins already I suggest you do get some good ones - we don't absorb nutrients very well with these problems. But forget the shrink!!!!!!! A good counsellor would be better just for someone to talk to if you don't have friends close by. Kerry My visit with Endo... I left crying if that is any indication of how it went, lol. He told me my hypothyroidism is under control (because my TSH is 1.whatever) and that the problem is elsewhere. There will be no T3 test of any type and adrenal fatigue wasn't considered. He is testing for nutritional deficiencies, which I have been concerned with (iron, B12), and celiac disease. The most disturbing part, I asked about Armour. His whole demeanor changed, he said I am to stay away from Armour, it isn't pure or something like that. I think he even said it was dangerous. I'm going to check what else I am being tested for, he didn't want to talk to me about it until after he had the results. At least it is all circled on a sheet and not illegibly written out. I know nutritional deficiencies can cause the fatigue and such, and I know I am most likely low on a few key things, but what about anxiety, depression and rage? He commented that my HDL of 83 is wonderful, but what about its connection with adrenal fatigue? I'm so frustrated, I don't feel like looking for a doctor even though I know I should. I feel like I should find a good mutivitamin and set up an appointment with a psychiatrist. Val, I know I shouldn't stress stuff like housework, but when I see the house getting so messy, it drains me even more, and make me want to do less. When it is clean I feel so much better. Our kids are 2 and 5, my husband helps a lot, but he is getting overwhelmed too. Our apartment is small and clutters up quickly. A couple weeks ago, after finding dirty clothes in the corner of my 5 year old daughter's bedroom, I told her she needs to put her clothing in the dirty basket if she wants it to be cleaned. This morning she said to me, " You know what's silly? I have been putting my dirty clothes in the basket, but they still aren't getting washed " lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 I sympathize with you.I'm no expert on controlling anxiety,depression and rage but a seer once told me a technique to control these.Whenever you feel these imotions just lie down or sit in a comfortable position (environment should not be noisy) ,close your eyes,leave your body loose and relaxed,concentrate on your breath.Feel the breath going in and out of your body.Just concentrate on the breath,no need to control or change your breath,just inhale and exhale and watch the breath.Do this and you will feel more in control. Also,in a day,at least for an hour try to indulge in an activity you enjoy.It could be gardening,dancing,listening to music (a love song always relaxes).You should keep this hour for yourself and cut of from the family matters and day to day chores. I find exercising also helps.Running or just walking for an hour(in a garden or Park) takes away a lot of stress. Try to be positive and think whatever is happening to you is good for you because God would'nt allow it to happen if it was bad for you. Count the blessings you have..like your kids and other good things happening/happened in your life.Laugh a lot (I find Jay Leno's jokes quite stress relieving). Hope this helps.. Puneet <beccadawn@...> wrote: I left crying if that is any indication of how it went, lol. He told me my hypothyroidism is under control (because my TSH is 1.whatever) and that the problem is elsewhere. There will be no T3 test of any type and adrenal fatigue wasn't considered. He is testing for nutritional deficiencies, which I have been concerned with (iron, B12), and celiac disease. The most disturbing part, I asked about Armour. His whole demeanor changed, he said I am to stay away from Armour, it isn't pure or something like that. I think he even said it was dangerous. I'm going to check what else I am being tested for, he didn't want to talk to me about it until after he had the results. At least it is all circled on a sheet and not illegibly written out. I know nutritional deficiencies can cause the fatigue and such, and I know I am most likely low on a few key things, but what about anxiety, depression and rage? He commented that my HDL of 83 is wonderful, but what about its connection with adrenal fatigue? I'm so frustrated, I don't feel like looking for a doctor even though I know I should. I feel like I should find a good mutivitamin and set up an appointment with a psychiatrist. Val, I know I shouldn't stress stuff like housework, but when I see the house getting so messy, it drains me even more, and make me want to do less. When it is clean I feel so much better. Our kids are 2 and 5, my husband helps a lot, but he is getting overwhelmed too. Our apartment is small and clutters up quickly. A couple weeks ago, after finding dirty clothes in the corner of my 5 year old daughter's bedroom, I told her she needs to put her clothing in the dirty basket if she wants it to be cleaned. This morning she said to me, " You know what's silly? I have been putting my dirty clothes in the basket, but they still aren't getting washed " lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 - I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I went to my GP this morning to get my labs done and check the dose I've been on the last 4 months. While I was there we talked about Armour and I asked her why endos don't prescribe it. She told me this. Armour is made of ground up pig thyroid. It used to be the only drug they had to treat hypo with till the synthetics came along. The reason, she says, why the endos prefer synthetics is because with the Armour you may not get the exact same dose with every tablet you take. It can vary because of what its made from. Endos think we're better off taking synthetics cause we get the exact same dose everytime. My Dr is actually wanting me to try Armour, I just haven't cause of the cost difference. Carolyn > > I left crying if that is any indication of how it went, lol. > > He told me my hypothyroidism is under control (because my TSH is > 1.whatever) and that the problem is elsewhere. There will be no T3 > test of any type and adrenal fatigue wasn't considered. He is > testing for nutritional deficiencies, which I have been concerned > with (iron, B12), and celiac disease. > > The most disturbing part, I asked about Armour. His whole demeanor > changed, he said I am to stay away from Armour, it isn't pure or > something like that. I think he even said it was dangerous. > > I'm going to check what else I am being tested for, he didn't want to > talk to me about it until after he had the results. At least it is > all circled on a sheet and not illegibly written out. > > I know nutritional deficiencies can cause the fatigue and such, and I > know I am most likely low on a few key things, but what about > anxiety, depression and rage? > > He commented that my HDL of 83 is wonderful, but what about its > connection with adrenal fatigue? I'm so frustrated, I don't feel > like looking for a doctor even though I know I should. > > I feel like I should find a good mutivitamin and set up an > appointment with a psychiatrist. > > Val, I know I shouldn't stress stuff like housework, but when I see > the house getting so messy, it drains me even more, and make me want > to do less. When it is clean I feel so much better. Our kids are 2 > and 5, my husband helps a lot, but he is getting overwhelmed too. Our > apartment is small and clutters up quickly. > > A couple weeks ago, after finding dirty clothes in the corner of my 5 > year old daughter's bedroom, I told her she needs to put her clothing > in the dirty basket if she wants it to be cleaned. This morning she > said to me, " You know what's silly? I have been putting my dirty > clothes in the basket, but they still aren't getting washed " lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Well, this endo believes I don't feel normal, he just doesn't think my thyroid is the cause anymore. He may have overlooked that I have antibodies, or doesn't think that matters, or maybe I do have some more things going on. I'm not saying I trust the doctors, lol, I just don't want to make anymore rash decisions just yet > , > > I think we have the same endo! Are you in Denver???? I have decided that I am going to another physician because I know that what I am feeling is NOT normal and that all I am being treated for are the lab findings and not any of the side-effects. It's important to remember what you felt like before and to not settle for something that you normally wouldn't. I know exactly how you feel, but you have to believe that there is someone else that can help you and no matter how exhausting the change may feel in the beginning, I am looking forward to making mysel available (body and mind) for my family and friends. Please do something...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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