Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 Carbs? They turn into sugar....I used to do almonds. Protein for low blood sugar. Re: Re: morning blood sugar > hi ...yeah, it's low...one reason I cannot do a > low carb diet...gotta make sure I get enough. > > I ALWAYS eat carbs before going to bed...try to have a > balanced meal with protein, carbs, and some fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 right,..I went on a low carb and ate cheese(protein) when my blood sugar went low and eventually if you low carb your blood sugar should level out.Eating carbs only puts you in a cycle of high levels to crashing lows.That is my experience anyway...:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Your morning blood sugars run usually high and that is called pre dawn syndrome. If it runs 60 or lower I would talk to my dr about it because you have low blood sugar and need to have meds to bring it up to a more normal number. I have been diabetic for 10 yrs now and mine run high I am not on insulin as yet but if they don't get under control I will be. go to diabetes or http://health./groups/diabetic or http://health./groups/Diabetic-And-Healthful-Recipes or Diabetic_Recipe_Archive These groups answer all your questions about diabetes and gylmecnic foods etc and they are they are a great buch of girls Trish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Right, . When I *stopped* eating carb at night - even low-GI carb - my morning blood sugar went from the usual 50-something to 80- something. Jan > Carbs? They turn into sugar....I used to do almonds. Protein for low blood > sugar. > > > > Re: Re: morning blood sugar > > > > hi ...yeah, it's low...one reason I cannot do a > > low carb diet...gotta make sure I get enough. > > > > I ALWAYS eat carbs before going to bed...try to have a > > balanced meal with protein, carbs, and some fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Sheila, That is arguable, actually. Pre-diabetics can benefit from controlling carb, especially high-GI carb like grapes. But still, most of the carbs you are eating are veggies, you are actually low- carbing without using the word low-carb. Fruit is the only source of carb in your diet, unless you are eating giant amounts of fruit, I doubt you are getting over 100g carb a day. Jan > Hi , > > Yeah, I need protein to keep myself balanced, and nuts > are great for that, but I need carbs as well. I try to > balance my meals. Tonight I had a filet mignon, some > peas, and some grapes. > > Diabetics and pre-diabetics need carbs. It is > important for them to have enough carbs at every meal. > I was a dietary supervisor in a hospital, and one of > the most important things for diabetics is that they > get enough carbs. > > The times I eat nuts are usually when I'm working > morning shift & need some long-lasting energy. They > are excellent for keeping your sugar up > > Last night I had a salad for dinner with romaine > lettuce, radishes, carrots, snow peas, about a tsp. of > sunflower seads, mandarin oranges, and a little > oil/vinegar dressing. > > take care. sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 I feel my best at almost no carb - around 25g a day. But, when my thyroid is working right, I gotta up the carb to stop losing weight, or I'd just waste away, hee hee. So I try to eat most of my carb from beans, lentils, oats, and sweet potatoes. I love whole wheat bread, pasta, and fruit other than the strawberries and grapefruit I usually eat, but they don't make me feel too good, so I don't eat them. I am CRAZY about bananas and mangoes. They are the only two foods I miss. I can bake bread for other people, watch them eat pizza, or an ice cream sundae and it is not hard for me. But if someone eats a banana, I gotta walk away, so much that I crave it. Jan > Hi Jan, I agree with you that pre-diabetics can > benefit from controlling carbs. Maybe I didn't say > what I intended clearly. I certainly don't want to > overdo the carbs...at the same time, I need to make > sure I get enough. > > I don't eat a LOT of fruit. I don't care for juices > (except V-8). I usually only eat one fruit serving a > day...sometimes two. > > I love raisins and figs, but try not to eat them too > often. I also love grapes, apples, bananas, mandarin > oranges, and pineapple. When I eat fruit, those are > the ones I usually choose. > > My allergist told me I should try to avoid bananas as > much as I can, but it's not a big deal since I don't > eat fruit that much anyway. > > I'm a big veggie person. Someone here posted about > eggplant, I think. I love eggplant and spinich...could > eat the stuff at every meal!!! I love almost every > vegetable, and my husband is the same. I could skip > meat entirely (used to be vegan), but I don't. > > I just don't enjoy meat the way I do veggies. Veggies > are so yummy! > > Since I found out I'm allergic to eggs and dairy, that > really makes it hard. then add the thyroid aspect of > having to avoid soy and goitrens...it's complicated. > > Also, I have to watch my fat...too much and I risk a > gallbladder attack. I haven't had one in 9 months > though! Yea! > > I do eat other sources of carbs other than fruit, such > as multi-grain bread, plenty of legumes, and whole > wheat pasta (occasionally). But I'm really trying to > eat more meat these days. > > I finally found a meat I like a lot (buffalo). It's > very lean, and we find it quite tasty. Take care. > > Veggie lovin' Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 > I feel my best at almost no carb - around 25g a day. But, when my > thyroid is working right, I gotta up the carb to stop losing weight, > or I'd just waste away, hee hee. LOL I'm jealous! Are you doing Atkins, SugarBusters or what? Did it take you a long time to adjust to the lower carbs (carb withdrawal, etc.)? I tried LC again since the thyroid thing (went on Atkins before and loved not having to crave all the time), but I felt so sick and crummy and depressed that I gave up after a week. > So I try to eat most of my carb from > beans, lentils, oats, and sweet potatoes. Sounds yummy. > I am CRAZY about bananas and mangoes. They are the only two foods I > miss. I can bake bread for other people, watch them eat pizza, or an > ice cream sundae and it is not hard for me. But if someone eats a > banana, I gotta walk away, so much that I crave it. > > Jan I LOVE bananas, too! And mangoes, but they're a pain to peel and get away from the seed so I don't mess with them much anymore. But for some ODD reason, when I diet...I start to crave dried pineapple. Weird, huh? Oh, and a question: What is pre-diabetes? I saw that mentioned and thought I'd ask. I'm one of the few in my immediate family that doesn't have it. My mom died of congestive heart failure in the hospital when she went in to have a toe removed due to diabetic complications (they were actually going to take her whole foot). My sister has it, a brother has it, aunts, cousins, etc. My BG was 105 last time it was checked, with the low end of high (abnormal) in the lab ranges starting at 110. Don't think it was a problem, doc didn't bring it up, but I'm curious. Ella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Ella, I am on Atkins, but when I reach my ideal " weight " (measurements actually, I try to up my weight/gain muscle although I am not very successful at my goal of getting really buff, hee hee), I sort of do my own thing. Atkins maintenance focuses more on getting the carb from fruit and carrots, etc. I've found out what works for me for maintenance is: carb for meals 1, 2, and 3, then Atkins style for meals 4, 5, 6, although when I am doing the carb I eat slightly lower fat than when I am in ketosis - I do 35% fat instead of 40% on average. So my maintenance is more of a bodybuilding cutting diet than Atkins. The first 8 days in ketosis is total crap. The only part I enjoy is I get a little " high " from lifting weights on those first days. I do one set, feel like I am drunk for 45 seconds, then repeat. It is a bit fun, hee hee. I always tried low-carb and failed miserably - until I started taking chromium piccolinate, 200mcg, 3x a day. It also helps if you have candida. I used to crave carb all the time, so I'd cheat. After starting it, I am just not as interested in carb food anymore. I can take it or leave it. I must have been infested with candida before... My husband is a dried pineapple freak too. It is his favorite snack for low-blood sugar. I don't care for it. Pre-diabetes is usually when the blood sugar is high-ish like yours (and mine) and you tend to get hypoglycemia (a " crash " ) from eating too much carb/carb without other stuff. Like eat a handful of raisins on an empty stomach, wait 30m-1h, if you get headache-y, sleepy, or desperatly hungry, you are hypoglycemic. Basically, our pancreas is making insulin, but the little receptors in our cells are not receiving the insulin so much, so the pancreas is making extra insulin. If we don't watch out, the pancreas is gonna say " Enough! I keep making all this insulin, and it never reaches the cells, I quit " , and we are actually gonna become diabetic. Jan > > I feel my best at almost no carb - around 25g a day. But, when my > > thyroid is working right, I gotta up the carb to stop losing > weight, > > or I'd just waste away, hee hee. > > LOL I'm jealous! Are you doing Atkins, SugarBusters or what? Did > it take you a long time to adjust to the lower carbs (carb > withdrawal, etc.)? I tried LC again since the thyroid thing (went on > Atkins before and loved not having to crave all the time), but I felt > so sick and crummy and depressed that I gave up after a week. > > > So I try to eat most of my carb from > > beans, lentils, oats, and sweet potatoes. > > Sounds yummy. > > > I am CRAZY about bananas and mangoes. They are the only two foods I > > miss. I can bake bread for other people, watch them eat pizza, or > an > > ice cream sundae and it is not hard for me. But if someone eats a > > banana, I gotta walk away, so much that I crave it. > > > > Jan > > I LOVE bananas, too! And mangoes, but they're a pain to peel and get > away from the seed so I don't mess with them much anymore. But for > some ODD reason, when I diet...I start to crave dried pineapple. > Weird, huh? > > Oh, and a question: What is pre-diabetes? I saw that mentioned and > thought I'd ask. I'm one of the few in my immediate family that > doesn't have it. My mom died of congestive heart failure in the > hospital when she went in to have a toe removed due to diabetic > complications (they were actually going to take her whole foot). My > sister has it, a brother has it, aunts, cousins, etc. My BG was 105 > last time it was checked, with the low end of high (abnormal) in the > lab ranges starting at 110. Don't think it was a problem, doc didn't > bring it up, but I'm curious. > > Ella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 I'm pretty sure raisins and figs are higher in sugar than bananas.... ----Original Message Follows---- From: Kemal Kalajdzic <kemalandsheila@...> Reply-hypothyroidism hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Re: morning blood sugar Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Hi Jan, I agree with you that pre-diabetics can benefit from controlling carbs. Maybe I didn't say what I intended clearly. I certainly don't want to overdo the carbs...at the same time, I need to make sure I get enough. I don't eat a LOT of fruit. I don't care for juices (except V-8). I usually only eat one fruit serving a day...sometimes two. I love raisins and figs, but try not to eat them too often. I also love grapes, apples, bananas, mandarin oranges, and pineapple. When I eat fruit, those are the ones I usually choose. _________________________________________________________________ Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Liver converts gylcogen to sugar when blood glucose levels drop. But there isn't a huge amount of gyclogen in the liver, so after fasting for 8-10 hours, blood glucose from glycogen should be fairly minimal after 8 hours. On the other hand, before I started taking coconut oil at bedtime and drinking whey, I did experience loss in muscle mass. As an experiment, I fasted for 36 hours. I got very weak. But my glucometer reading was much higher than I like to see it. Since taking whey daily, my muscle mass has increased, but I continued to get skinnier. Back when I was about 15 or so, I stopped being able to see my ribs. I never saw my ribs until this year. Now, when I stand in front of the bathoom mirror and lift my arms over my head, I can clearly see all my ribs. I am not underweight by any means. I still have a belly, although it is much smaller than it was 5 years ago. My waist went from 44 down to 37. Alobar On 11/27/08, van essa <vandalsem@...> wrote: > > > > > Chantelle, > > > > While you read, could you please find out why one's blood sugar rises > > during sleep? In the Mercola website where he interviewed the guy, it > > said this indicated leptin deficiency and it could be " eating away " > > the muscles. Probably why i have cramps in my sleep? > > Sorry to highjack this question. Mercola's site makes me crazy - > nearly all his stuff 2-3 years outdated - and I know that doesn't make > a difference if there's no new information - but I can't help but > wonder if he doesn't give >just enough< info to reveal some of the > truth while withholding the beefy stuff for his " inner circle " folks. :/ > > This is what I've been reading about today - so it may be connected > with your question, . Dr. Eades says this about morning blood > sugars: > > http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/sugar-and-sweeteners/a-spoonful-of-sugar/ > > " ... experiencing what is called the dawn phenomenon. The liver > produces and releases glucose into the blood unless it is turned off > by insulin. The liver tends to make more overnight to compensate for > the fact that one doesn't usually eat while sleeping, yet one's blood > sugar level needs to be maintained. The liver produces enough glucose > to keep the blood sugar at a normal level. If the level gets a little > high, the pancreas releases a little spurt of insulin that signals to > the liver to quit producing sugar for a while. An insulin resistant > person's liver often doesn't get the signal and keeps on producing > sugar leading to elevated sugars in the morning that tend to go down > later in the day. > > In my experience, the best treatment is a low-carb diet over the long > haul to re-establish insulin sensitivity. > > Hope this helps. > > MRE " > > From my personal experience doing a low-carb diet over the last 6-8 > weeks, not eating between meals, eating enough good fat, not eating > after dinner, my BS has been way down. > > As for the " muscle eating " thing - that sounds like catabolism, > wherein the body starts to eat itself from lack of protein. I think > Alobar knows about this. If you bat your eyes at him, he might > 'splain it. > > -vanessa > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Alobar, could you tell me more about the whey again? I¹m asking because I just read in n¹s leptin book about what whey he recommends and why (wasn¹t a brand, but an explanation) and it made me have MORE questions. I may have to quote the book here in fact, and get your response.... But to try and aks off the top of my head(I tried looking and its taking me too long right now to find the part I just read), I think he said the product he thought we needed to have in terms of this had to be whey and casein, not just whey and he said why. I remember when I read it, I didn¹t really agree with it(based on my very limited knowledge and my understanding of some things you¹ve said), but then I just wanted to know more..... The way he uses whey is simply a convenience factor it seems like .(to help get all the meals in).... Which is a problem for me , the not eating thing, and when I Œve used whey before, I did drop weight, but that was in conjunction with EFA oil, which I will probably start using again, since I see no reason not to. Chantelle On 11/27/08 5:45 PM, " Alobar " <Alobar@...> wrote: > > > > Liver converts gylcogen to sugar when blood glucose levels drop. But > there isn't a huge amount of gyclogen in the liver, so after fasting > for 8-10 hours, blood glucose from glycogen should be fairly minimal > after 8 hours. > > On the other hand, before I started taking coconut oil at bedtime and > drinking whey, I did experience loss in muscle mass. As an > experiment, I fasted for 36 hours. I got very weak. But my > glucometer reading was much higher than I like to see it. > > Since taking whey daily, my muscle mass has increased, but I continued > to get skinnier. Back when I was about 15 or so, I stopped being > able to see my ribs. I never saw my ribs until this year. Now, > when I stand in front of the bathoom mirror and lift my arms over my > head, I can clearly see all my ribs. I am not underweight by any > means. I still have a belly, although it is much smaller than it was > 5 years ago. My waist went from 44 down to 37. > > Alobar > > On 11/27/08, van essa <vandalsem@... <mailto:vandalsem%40comcast.net> > > wrote: >> > >>> > > >>> > > Chantelle, >>> > > >>> > > While you read, could you please find out why one's blood sugar rises >>> > > during sleep? In the Mercola website where he interviewed the guy, it >>> > > said this indicated leptin deficiency and it could be " eating away " >>> > > the muscles. Probably why i have cramps in my sleep? >> > >> > Sorry to highjack this question. Mercola's site makes me crazy - >> > nearly all his stuff 2-3 years outdated - and I know that doesn't make >> > a difference if there's no new information - but I can't help but >> > wonder if he doesn't give >just enough< info to reveal some of the >> > truth while withholding the beefy stuff for his " inner circle " folks. :/ >> > >> > This is what I've been reading about today - so it may be connected >> > with your question, . Dr. Eades says this about morning blood >> > sugars: >> > >> > >> http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/sugar-and-sweeteners/a-spoonful-of-sugar/ >> > >> > " ... experiencing what is called the dawn phenomenon. The liver >> > produces and releases glucose into the blood unless it is turned off >> > by insulin. The liver tends to make more overnight to compensate for >> > the fact that one doesn't usually eat while sleeping, yet one's blood >> > sugar level needs to be maintained. The liver produces enough glucose >> > to keep the blood sugar at a normal level. If the level gets a little >> > high, the pancreas releases a little spurt of insulin that signals to >> > the liver to quit producing sugar for a while. An insulin resistant >> > person's liver often doesn't get the signal and keeps on producing >> > sugar leading to elevated sugars in the morning that tend to go down >> > later in the day. >> > >> > In my experience, the best treatment is a low-carb diet over the long >> > haul to re-establish insulin sensitivity. >> > >> > Hope this helps. >> > >> > MRE " >> > >> > From my personal experience doing a low-carb diet over the last 6-8 >> > weeks, not eating between meals, eating enough good fat, not eating >> > after dinner, my BS has been way down. >> > >> > As for the " muscle eating " thing - that sounds like catabolism, >> > wherein the body starts to eat itself from lack of protein. I think >> > Alobar knows about this. If you bat your eyes at him, he might >> > 'splain it. >> > >> > -vanessa >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I have no idea about why Casein might be needed in whey. Maybe Duncan could respond to you question. Alobar On 11/28/08, Chantelle <bornfrueh@...> wrote: > Alobar, could you tell me more about the whey again? I¹m asking because I > just read in n¹s leptin book about what whey he recommends and why > (wasn¹t a brand, but an explanation) and it made me have MORE questions. I > may have to quote the book here in fact, and get your response.... > > But to try and aks off the top of my head(I tried looking and its taking me > too long right now to find the part I just read), I think he said the > product he thought we needed to have in terms of this had to be whey and > casein, not just whey and he said why. I remember when I read it, I didn¹t > really agree with it(based on my very limited knowledge and my understanding > of some things you¹ve said), but then I just wanted to know more..... > > The way he uses whey is simply a convenience factor it seems like .(to help > get all the meals in).... Which is a problem for me , the not eating thing, > and when I Œve used whey before, I did drop weight, but that was in > conjunction with EFA oil, which I will probably start using again, since I > see no reason not to. > > Chantelle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Alobar, Thanks for explanation. I will look into whey. The organic dairy farm i go to makes cheeses and whey. Is this type of whey ok? My blood work results i have a slightly elevated protein, which my doc says refers to liver. Will this not send it higher? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Alobar, Thanks for explanation. I will look into whey. The organic dairy farm i go to makes cheeses and whey. Is this type of whey ok? My blood work results i have a slightly elevated protein, which my doc says refers to liver. Will this not send it higher? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Chantelle, if you're looking for casein you might like to know that cow casein is notoriously harder to digest than human or goat casein because it's a different type. A chunk of cheese will do Duncan > >>> > > > >>> > > Chantelle, > >>> > > > >>> > > While you read, could you please find out why one's blood sugar rises > >>> > > during sleep? In the Mercola website where he interviewed the guy, it > >>> > > said this indicated leptin deficiency and it could be " eating away " > >>> > > the muscles. Probably why i have cramps in my sleep? > >> > > >> > Sorry to highjack this question. Mercola's site makes me crazy - > >> > nearly all his stuff 2-3 years outdated - and I know that doesn't make > >> > a difference if there's no new information - but I can't help but > >> > wonder if he doesn't give >just enough< info to reveal some of the > >> > truth while withholding the beefy stuff for his " inner circle " folks. :/ > >> > > >> > This is what I've been reading about today - so it may be connected > >> > with your question, . Dr. Eades says this about morning blood > >> > sugars: > >> > > >> > > >> http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/sugar-and-sweeteners/a- spoonful-of-sugar/ > >> > > >> > " ... experiencing what is called the dawn phenomenon. The liver > >> > produces and releases glucose into the blood unless it is turned off > >> > by insulin. The liver tends to make more overnight to compensate for > >> > the fact that one doesn't usually eat while sleeping, yet one's blood > >> > sugar level needs to be maintained. The liver produces enough glucose > >> > to keep the blood sugar at a normal level. If the level gets a little > >> > high, the pancreas releases a little spurt of insulin that signals to > >> > the liver to quit producing sugar for a while. An insulin resistant > >> > person's liver often doesn't get the signal and keeps on producing > >> > sugar leading to elevated sugars in the morning that tend to go down > >> > later in the day. > >> > > >> > In my experience, the best treatment is a low-carb diet over the long > >> > haul to re-establish insulin sensitivity. > >> > > >> > Hope this helps. > >> > > >> > MRE " > >> > > >> > From my personal experience doing a low-carb diet over the last 6-8 > >> > weeks, not eating between meals, eating enough good fat, not eating > >> > after dinner, my BS has been way down. > >> > > >> > As for the " muscle eating " thing - that sounds like catabolism, > >> > wherein the body starts to eat itself from lack of protein. I think > >> > Alobar knows about this. If you bat your eyes at him, he might > >> > 'splain it. > >> > > >> > -vanessa > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 , you'd have to drink 10 GALLONS of raw whey to get glutathione precursors equivalent to two 30-gram scoops of raw whey powder that you could get into a large milk glass. Duncan > > Alobar, > > Thanks for explanation. I will look into whey. The organic dairy farm i go to makes cheeses and whey. Is this type of whey ok? My blood work results i have a slightly elevated protein, which my doc says refers to liver. Will this not send it higher? Thanks. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Having undenatured whey in your diet directly supports your liver like no other food can so it will probably help correct the elevated liver enzyme. Duncan > > Alobar, > > Thanks for explanation. I will look into whey. The organic dairy farm i go to makes cheeses and whey. Is this type of whey ok? My blood work results i have a slightly elevated protein, which my doc says refers to liver. Will this not send it higher? Thanks. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Thanks Duncan. When i went to WholeFoods, i saw a lot of whey products and just kept staring at them almost tempted to go eenie minnie minimo. Now i know it should be the undenatured type. Also why do they have soy? It is now said soy can lead to many other diseases, i don't want to add anymore to my " head to toe, literally " problems. Will it matter if the undenatured whey does not contain soy? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 In the Wholefoods here in New Orleans, there is not one brand of whey which seemed to me to be undenatured. And the prices were astronomical! I buy 10 pounds of NOW whey protein isolate for what I would pay for 2 or 3 pounds of whey at Whole Foods. Same for whey at my local GNC. Personally, I would not want soy in my whey. Soy adds cheap protein and I am suspicious about the phytoestrogens in unfemented soy. My ex-wife, however eats soy every day because she believes it smoothes out her menstrual cycle and might make her breasts larger. But she is mostly vegetarian these days. Makes me happy we are no longer together as we would squabble over diet. Alobar On 11/28/08, melly banagale <@...> wrote: > Thanks Duncan. When i went to WholeFoods, i saw a lot of whey products and just kept staring at them almost tempted to go eenie minnie minimo. Now i know it should be the undenatured type. Also why do they have soy? It is now said soy can lead to many other diseases, i don't want to add anymore to my " head to toe, literally " problems. Will it matter if the undenatured whey does not contain soy? > > Thanks. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Okay thanks Duncan. Makes sense to me.... I checked the whey that I had a little lefrt of in the cupboard and it is out of date..... So will be trying to figure out what I¹m doing for or if I¹m gong to get some more whey...... There were some similarities as to what n recommends that sounded the same as what you mentioned being important Duncan. Chantelle On 11/28/08 11:46 AM, " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...> wrote: > > > > Chantelle, if you're looking for casein you might like to know that > cow casein is notoriously harder to digest than human or goat casein > because it's a different type. A chunk of cheese will do > > Duncan > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Chantelle, >>>>>>> > >>> > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > While you read, could you please find out why one's blood > sugar rises >>>>>>> > >>> > > during sleep? In the Mercola website where he interviewed > the guy, it >>>>>>> > >>> > > said this indicated leptin deficiency and it could be > " eating away " >>>>>>> > >>> > > the muscles. Probably why i have cramps in my sleep? >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > Sorry to highjack this question. Mercola's site makes me crazy > - >>>>> > >> > nearly all his stuff 2-3 years outdated - and I know that > doesn't make >>>>> > >> > a difference if there's no new information - but I can't help > but >>>>> > >> > wonder if he doesn't give >just enough< info to reveal some of > the >>>>> > >> > truth while withholding the beefy stuff for his " inner circle " > folks. :/ >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > This is what I've been reading about today - so it may be > connected >>>>> > >> > with your question, . Dr. Eades says this about morning > blood >>>>> > >> > sugars: >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/sugar-and-sweeteners/a- > spoonful-of-sugar/ >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > " ... experiencing what is called the dawn phenomenon. The liver >>>>> > >> > produces and releases glucose into the blood unless it is > turned off >>>>> > >> > by insulin. The liver tends to make more overnight to > compensate for >>>>> > >> > the fact that one doesn't usually eat while sleeping, yet one's > blood >>>>> > >> > sugar level needs to be maintained. The liver produces enough > glucose >>>>> > >> > to keep the blood sugar at a normal level. If the level gets a > little >>>>> > >> > high, the pancreas releases a little spurt of insulin that > signals to >>>>> > >> > the liver to quit producing sugar for a while. An insulin > resistant >>>>> > >> > person's liver often doesn't get the signal and keeps on > producing >>>>> > >> > sugar leading to elevated sugars in the morning that tend to go > down >>>>> > >> > later in the day. >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > In my experience, the best treatment is a low-carb diet over > the long >>>>> > >> > haul to re-establish insulin sensitivity. >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > Hope this helps. >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > MRE " >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > From my personal experience doing a low-carb diet over the last > 6-8 >>>>> > >> > weeks, not eating between meals, eating enough good fat, not > eating >>>>> > >> > after dinner, my BS has been way down. >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > As for the " muscle eating " thing - that sounds like catabolism, >>>>> > >> > wherein the body starts to eat itself from lack of protein. I > think >>>>> > >> > Alobar knows about this. If you bat your eyes at him, he might >>>>> > >> > 'splain it. >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > -vanessa >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > > >>> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 , I don't use soy protein either and the wheys I choose don't generally contain soy, but they may contain lecithin from soy. Lecithin is an emulsifier of fats for fat transport. It's also a source of phosphatidylcholine, brain fuel; it's been used to enhance cognitive ability. Duncan > > Thanks Duncan. When i went to WholeFoods, i saw a lot of whey products and just kept staring at them almost tempted to go eenie minnie minimo. Now i know it should be the undenatured type. Also why do they have soy? It is now said soy can lead to many other diseases, i don't want to add anymore to my " head to toe, literally " problems. Will it matter if the undenatured whey does not contain soy? > > Thanks. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Alobar, Is the NOW whey protein isolate you take the same as undenatured whey? If not, what is the difference? Is there soy in the Now whey protein isolate you take? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Website never uses the word " undenatured " but Duncan feels that it is undenatured. No Soy. Below is info from NOW website. Alobar NOW's® three different types of Whey Protein are formulated to provide anyone, from the weekend warrior to the most serious athlete, with a " whey " that's perfect for their fitness level. Our Economy formula is predominantly whey concentrate, which has a slightly different nutrient profile than the isolate form (detailed below) and provides about 16-17 grams of protein per serving. It's ideal for the casual fitness enthusiast. Our premium quality blend contains a mixture of whey concentrates and whey isolates, with higher levels of whey isolate, and more protein per serving (20 grams). For anyone serious about their fitness this is a great choice. Our pure Whey Isolate yields more protein with less fat and carbohydrates than concentrates and is considered the highest quality whey protein currently available. Whey Isolate has a high concentration of branched-chain amino acids (BCAA's), which aid protein synthesis. It's naturally low in carbohydrates and contains over 90% protein, compared to 80% for many concentrates and 6.25% for milk. Our Whey Isolates are instantized for easy mixing in milk or water. For athletes on high protein regimens and for those agressively seeking to build muscle NOW Whey Isolate is the way to go! http://www.nowfoods.com/index.php/cat/Product-FAQ's-Product-Catalog-Home/cat_id/\ 2145 Whey Protein Isolate - 1 lb. PRODUCT #: 2172 UPC: 733739021724 100% Pure Mixes Instantly Microfiltered High in Branch Chain Amino Acids Natural Unflavored All Natural - No Aspartame, No Sucralose, No Acesulfame-K Voted 2005 and 2006 Whole Foods Magazine " Best Sports Supplement " NOW® Whey Protein Isolate is a high quality protein supplement that is both bioavailable and easily digested. Whey protein contains a high concentration of Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAA's), which are important for efficient muscle metabolism.* These qualities make NOW® Whey Protein Isolate an ideal supplement for active individuals. Whey protein is considered to have the highest Biological Value of any protein source - superior in essential amino acid content to beef, milk, casein or soy. Other delicious flavors available: Vanilla, Chocolate & Strawberry Serving Size 1 Scoop (28 g) Servings Per Container 16 Amount Per Serving % Daily Value Calories 105 Total Fat 0.3 g <1%* Trans Fat 0 g † Cholesterol 4 mg 1% Sodium 40 mg 2% Total Carbohydrates 1 g <1%* Sugars 1 g † Protein 25 g 50%* Calcium 125 mg 13% Potassium 168 mg 5% Phosphorous 70 mg 7% Magnesium 22 mg 6% TYPICAL AMINO ACID PROFILE Essential Amino Acids mg Per 28 g Serving L-Isoleucine 1568 L-Leucine 2867 L-Lysine 2716 L-Methionine 473 L-Phenylalanine 722 L-Threonine 2215 L-Tryptophan 529 L-Valine 1646 NON-ESSENTIAL AMINO ACIDS L-Alanine 1344 L-Arginine 498 L-Aspartic Acid 2845 L-Cysteine 585 L-Glutamic Acid 5407 L-Glycine 398 L-Histidine 367 L-Proline 1607 L-Serine 1378 L-Tyrosine 750 Total 27,915 mg * Percent Daily Values are based on 2,000 calorie diet. † Daily Value not established. http://www.nowfoods.com/?action=itemdetail & item_id=2795 On 11/29/08, melly banagale <@...> wrote: > Alobar, > > Is the NOW whey protein isolate you take the same as undenatured whey? If not, what is the difference? Is there soy in the Now whey protein isolate you take? > > Thanks. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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