You say progesterone; I say progestin

[Guest guest]

Gracia,

You wrote:

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> Chuck the problem is often times the progestin which causes a progesterone

> deficiency. Progesterone is thyroid supportive.

I don't understand your statement. Progestin (medroxyprogesterone) is a

synthetic form of progesterone. Both are thyroid supportive, and both

balance estrogen, which suppresses the thyroid. The progestin is just

many times more potent. It reduces progesterone by replacing it. I don't

see how that can be considered a " deficiency. "

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Therein lies the rub. Do synthetics work the same as bio-identicals???

Women on progestin end up with progesterone deficiency, so I would say they

don't work the same. Progestin is the drug implicated in the higher

incidence of heart problems, cancer, alzheimers etc. Also oral

progestin/progesterone is poorly tolerated. There is more info about the

differences in Hormone Solution by Thierry Hertoghe MD. Don't have time to

check it out now but I will try to later. This is why compounding

pharmacies are doing a fantastic business.

Gracia

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> > Chuck the problem is often times the progestin which causes a

progesterone

> > deficiency. Progesterone is thyroid supportive.

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> I don't understand your statement. Progestin (medroxyprogesterone) is a

> synthetic form of progesterone. Both are thyroid supportive, and both

> balance estrogen, which suppresses the thyroid. The progestin is just

> many times more potent. It reduces progesterone by replacing it. I don't

> see how that can be considered a " deficiency. "

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> Chuck

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[Guest guest]

I think the same Gracia.....I do not believen that methyprednisone is

the same as Hydrocortisone either - although people talk about them and

their side effects as if they were bio identical - they aren't and as

far as I know progestin is not bio-identical as well. I don't even

really care about the science - call it women's intuition

Kerry

Re: You say progesterone; I say progestin

Therein lies the rub. Do synthetics work the same as

bio-identicals???

Women on progestin end up with progesterone deficiency, so I would say

they

don't work the same. Progestin is the drug implicated in the higher

incidence of heart problems, cancer, alzheimers etc. Also oral

progestin/progesterone is poorly tolerated. There is more info about

the

differences in Hormone Solution by Thierry Hertoghe MD. Don't have

time to

check it out now but I will try to later. This is why compounding

pharmacies are doing a fantastic business.

Gracia

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> > Chuck the problem is often times the progestin which causes a

progesterone

> > deficiency. Progesterone is thyroid supportive.

>

> I don't understand your statement. Progestin (medroxyprogesterone) is

a

> synthetic form of progesterone. Both are thyroid supportive, and both

> balance estrogen, which suppresses the thyroid. The progestin is just

> many times more potent. It reduces progesterone by replacing it. I

don't

> see how that can be considered a " deficiency. "

>

> Chuck

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[Guest guest]

Thierry hertoghe MD says in Hormone Solutions, p. 151.

" The natural form of progesterone protects the arteries against spasms.

Many, many heart attacks in women occur when there is no real obstruction of

the coronary artery. They are most likely due to spasms in the cardiac

arteries that simply last too long. This type of heart attack typically

happens after menopause, when the ovaries have quit producing most of their

hormones, including progesterone. Replacement therapy remedies this kind of

arterial problem.

Note well that some synthetic progesterone (progestin) can actually

contribute to that type of spasm. Using only natural progesterone to

protect your heart is crucial. "

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> Gracia,

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> You wrote:

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> > Chuck the problem is often times the progestin which causes a

progesterone

> > deficiency. Progesterone is thyroid supportive.

>

> I don't understand your statement. Progestin (medroxyprogesterone) is a

> synthetic form of progesterone. Both are thyroid supportive, and both

> balance estrogen, which suppresses the thyroid. The progestin is just

> many times more potent. It reduces progesterone by replacing it. I don't

> see how that can be considered a " deficiency. "

>

> Chuck

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[Guest guest]

I dug into the overan hormones after my wifes hysto about 5 years ago.

Progestin is an adultrated form of progestrone. The reason the drug

companies do it is simple. In a word, money. They can patent the

adultrated version. They cannot patent the bioidentical version, and

a patented drug sells for many times that of an unpatented one. The

patient be damed.

Grover Syck

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> Therein lies the rub. Do synthetics work the same as

bio-identicals???

> Women on progestin end up with progesterone deficiency, so I would

say they

> don't work the same. Progestin is the drug implicated in the higher

> incidence of heart problems, cancer, alzheimers etc. Also oral

> progestin/progesterone is poorly tolerated. There is more info

about the

> differences in Hormone Solution by Thierry Hertoghe MD. Don't have

time to

> check it out now but I will try to later. This is why compounding

> pharmacies are doing a fantastic business.

> Gracia

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> > > Chuck the problem is often times the progestin which causes a

> progesterone

> > > deficiency. Progesterone is thyroid supportive.

> >

> > I don't understand your statement. Progestin (medroxyprogesterone)

is a

> > synthetic form of progesterone. Both are thyroid supportive, and both

> > balance estrogen, which suppresses the thyroid. The progestin is just

> > many times more potent. It reduces progesterone by replacing it. I

don't

> > see how that can be considered a " deficiency. "

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> > Chuck

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