Re: Kim - personal

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim, I'll write you a more personal message...hopefully tonight...on my way

to work now. Just wanted to say I agree with 100%!!! I, too, have a long

history of dealing with abuse and trauma, and therapy saved my butt as well!!!

It's something to think about.

I'll talk to you more later...just remember that you are a wonderful, beautiful,

loving person...a flower on this Earth...You are special. Believe it! You have

endured so much in your life, and you are strong and courageous!!!

Love, hugs, and peace...Sheila

<melmac2525@...> wrote:

You're not a bad person. The Internet is full of nuts. People who like to be

destructive and prey on others like doing it over the Internet because the

anonymity allows them to get away with it. This is why you have squelch,

ignore, etc. commands on every site where you can interact with people. Use

those things. As soon as someone is rude, get rid of the person. You don't

need that.

If you have a history of abuse, then you already have been taught to categorize

things under negative categories like " My Fault, " " I'm Bad, " " I'm Not As Good As

Others, " and etc. You can do a lot for yourself by changing your thinking. It

takes some work but you can learn that people's weirdness is their own, and not

your fault or responsibility. You might want to seriously consider therapy...it

can help a lot. I happen to be a psychologist but also have a history of abuse

and I can tell you that having therapy saved my butt.

I would say that if you have no reason to be depressed, and you are, then it

might be thyoid or another chemical problem. If you are under extreme stress,

have a history of abuse, etc. then you have a reason to be depressed. Therapy

can help.

Girlie <kckim@...> wrote:

I know ppl discuss depression as a thyroid symptom but is being downright

suicidal a symptom? Also I feel like everyone is out to hate me especially

internet ppl. I try really hard to be nice nad help ppl and then for no reason

they do amazingly mean things i wouldnt do to my worse enemy. I feel so stupid

and im so trusting.. like this one guy who i met on a game and was helping him

suddenly hated me and i did nothing that i know of to him.. and now he is

sending me horrific things like I hope you die nad good your bf beats you and

making websites.. am i a bad eprson? i honestly try sooo hard till it hurts to

help ppl.. and i feel why bother .. i feel like crawling into a hole and never

talking again.. i am already super antisocial and scared of ppl from being

abused a lot and now I ahve to deal with internet ppl and i just dont know what

I am doing or saying wrong i am so emotional.. even dying on a video game

makes me cry.. i just can't seem to be able to help myself.. im

trying so ahrd but to no avail

im gonna charge these tests who care sof i charged my life away if im dead.. so

better for me to test

http://www.healthcheckusa.com/location_detail.php?id=715508

heres the price list you gotta go tot he on screen button to the right of the

states drop down list

[Guest guest]

*hugs* oh wow you guys re so nice to me

Re: Kim - personal

> Hi Kim, I'll write you a more personal message...hopefully tonight...on my

way to work now. Just wanted to say I agree with 100%!!! I, too,

have a long history of dealing with abuse and trauma, and therapy saved my

butt as well!!! It's something to think about.

> I'll talk to you more later...just remember that you are a wonderful,

beautiful, loving person...a flower on this Earth...You are special. Believe

it! You have endured so much in your life, and you are strong and

courageous!!!

> Love, hugs, and peace...Sheila

>

>

> <melmac2525@...> wrote:

> You're not a bad person. The Internet is full of nuts. People who like

to be destructive and prey on others like doing it over the Internet because

the anonymity allows them to get away with it. This is why you have

squelch, ignore, etc. commands on every site where you can interact with

people. Use those things. As soon as someone is rude, get rid of the

person. You don't need that.

>

> If you have a history of abuse, then you already have been taught to

categorize things under negative categories like " My Fault, " " I'm Bad, " " I'm

Not As Good As Others, " and etc. You can do a lot for yourself by changing

your thinking. It takes some work but you can learn that people's weirdness

is their own, and not your fault or responsibility. You might want to

seriously consider therapy...it can help a lot. I happen to be a

psychologist but also have a history of abuse and I can tell you that having

therapy saved my butt.

>

> I would say that if you have no reason to be depressed, and you are, then

it might be thyoid or another chemical problem. If you are under extreme

stress, have a history of abuse, etc. then you have a reason to be

depressed. Therapy can help.

>

> Girlie <kckim@...> wrote:

> I know ppl discuss depression as a thyroid symptom but is being downright

suicidal a symptom? Also I feel like everyone is out to hate me especially

internet ppl. I try really hard to be nice nad help ppl and then for no

reason they do amazingly mean things i wouldnt do to my worse enemy. I feel

so stupid and im so trusting.. like this one guy who i met on a game and

was helping him suddenly hated me and i did nothing that i know of to him..

and now he is sending me horrific things like I hope you die nad good your

bf beats you and making websites.. am i a bad eprson? i honestly try sooo

hard till it hurts to help ppl.. and i feel why bother .. i feel like

crawling into a hole and never talking again.. i am already super antisocial

and scared of ppl from being abused a lot and now I ahve to deal with

internet ppl and i just dont know what I am doing or saying wrong i am so

emotional.. even dying on a video game makes me cry.. i just can't seem to

be able to help myself.. im

> trying so ahrd but to no avail

>

> im gonna charge these tests who care sof i charged my life away if im

dead.. so better for me to test

>

> http://www.healthcheckusa.com/location_detail.php?id=715508

>

> heres the price list you gotta go tot he on screen button to the right of

the states drop down list

>

>

[Guest guest]

that's what you deserve!!! Hugs back, Sheila

Girlie <kckim@...> wrote:*hugs* oh wow you guys re so nice to me

Re: Kim - personal

> Hi Kim, I'll write you a more personal message...hopefully tonight...on my

way to work now. Just wanted to say I agree with 100%!!! I, too,

have a long history of dealing with abuse and trauma, and therapy saved my

butt as well!!! It's something to think about.

> I'll talk to you more later...just remember that you are a wonderful,

beautiful, loving person...a flower on this Earth...You are special. Believe

it! You have endured so much in your life, and you are strong and

courageous!!!

> Love, hugs, and peace...Sheila

>

>

> <melmac2525@...> wrote:

> You're not a bad person. The Internet is full of nuts. People who like

to be destructive and prey on others like doing it over the Internet because

the anonymity allows them to get away with it. This is why you have

squelch, ignore, etc. commands on every site where you can interact with

people. Use those things. As soon as someone is rude, get rid of the

person. You don't need that.

>

> If you have a history of abuse, then you already have been taught to

categorize things under negative categories like " My Fault, " " I'm Bad, " " I'm

Not As Good As Others, " and etc. You can do a lot for yourself by changing

your thinking. It takes some work but you can learn that people's weirdness

is their own, and not your fault or responsibility. You might want to

seriously consider therapy...it can help a lot. I happen to be a

psychologist but also have a history of abuse and I can tell you that having

therapy saved my butt.

>

> I would say that if you have no reason to be depressed, and you are, then

it might be thyoid or another chemical problem. If you are under extreme

stress, have a history of abuse, etc. then you have a reason to be

depressed. Therapy can help.

>

> Girlie <kckim@...> wrote:

> I know ppl discuss depression as a thyroid symptom but is being downright

suicidal a symptom? Also I feel like everyone is out to hate me especially

internet ppl. I try really hard to be nice nad help ppl and then for no

reason they do amazingly mean things i wouldnt do to my worse enemy. I feel

so stupid and im so trusting.. like this one guy who i met on a game and

was helping him suddenly hated me and i did nothing that i know of to him..

and now he is sending me horrific things like I hope you die nad good your

bf beats you and making websites.. am i a bad eprson? i honestly try sooo

hard till it hurts to help ppl.. and i feel why bother .. i feel like

crawling into a hole and never talking again.. i am already super antisocial

and scared of ppl from being abused a lot and now I ahve to deal with

internet ppl and i just dont know what I am doing or saying wrong i am so

emotional.. even dying on a video game makes me cry.. i just can't seem to

be able to help myself.. im

> trying so ahrd but to no avail

>

> im gonna charge these tests who care sof i charged my life away if im

dead.. so better for me to test

>

> http://www.healthcheckusa.com/location_detail.php?id=715508

>

> heres the price list you gotta go tot he on screen button to the right of

the states drop down list

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was thinking about this last night--some of us become empowered

from this illness---like me --I am nuts attacking it from every angle-

-looking for every thing I can find to help--helping as many college

girls as we can (found another one this week) (soccer star that

gained 30 lbs)--we have taken the illness that has both my mom and

mother-in-law having major eye problems now--one diabetic as well---

fixing my sisters---my daughter--and myself and anyone else that I

can--or you can become the opposite and feel depressed and sorry for

yourself--and I am not being critical--it's that there is a time for

this and then you say to yourself either go or get off the pot type

of thing (just saw this on )---you say dam it I have to get

better and you are just not 100% there yet---you are here on this

group so you are maybe 75% but not 100% when you say to yourself I am

tried of being sick---(just as an example) because maybe getting out

all the anger is also the best way to help yourself---everyone is

different!!! but the key in all of this is realizing none of this is

your fault---you are sick and we are sick and we just have to stick

together--support each other and keep on pushing the doctors--keep on

pushing to get the answers and we will!!!!!!!!!!

I have come such a long way and all of us suffer from not feeling

100% all the time--such is life but not giving up is the key to keep

going!!!!! we are here we are support and answers and all of us

care!!! may not have time for everyone from every poster---but we all

know and feel what you are going though because we were all in your

shoes!!!!!!!!!!!

so keep going---chin up--keep reading and keep fighting---you will

succeed!!!! If I can you can we all can!!!!!!!!!!!!tina

> > I know ppl discuss depression as a thyroid symptom but is being

downright

> suicidal a symptom? Also I feel like everyone is out to hate me

especially

> internet ppl. I try really hard to be nice nad help ppl and then

for no

> reason they do amazingly mean things i wouldnt do to my worse

enemy. I feel

> so stupid and im so trusting.. like this one guy who i met on a

game and

> was helping him suddenly hated me and i did nothing that i know of

to him..

> and now he is sending me horrific things like I hope you die nad

good your

> bf beats you and making websites.. am i a bad eprson? i honestly

try sooo

> hard till it hurts to help ppl.. and i feel why bother .. i feel

like

> crawling into a hole and never talking again.. i am already super

antisocial

> and scared of ppl from being abused a lot and now I ahve to deal

with

> internet ppl and i just dont know what I am doing or saying wrong :

( i am so

> emotional.. even dying on a video game makes me cry.. i just can't

seem to

> be able to help myself.. im

> > trying so ahrd but to no avail

> >

> > im gonna charge these tests who care sof i charged my life away

if im

> dead.. so better for me to test

> >

> > http://www.healthcheckusa.com/location_detail.php?id=715508

> >

> > heres the price list you gotta go tot he on screen button to the

right of

> the states drop down list

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hey Kim:

I hope this helps- I was so desparate for so many years. The fatigue, the

depression, the weight gain. Bottom line... I think you need to search, never

give up- because if you don't feel right, something is WRONG. As I said- I

started thyroid meds 6 years ago. I was on synthroid. About 3 years ago I

found Shouman's book. I DEMANDED my doctor switch me to Armour. At that

time, I was on a HMO. I think she thought I was nuts. Anyway, she did. I did

feel better, but not 100%. I then ended up at an old doc that hadn't treated

my for my hypo. He convinced me to go back on synthroid. BIG MISTAKE. Mind

you, this was the doctor that had sent my mom to the nutritionist that

diagnosed her celiac. He did increase my dose. I still had periods from hell.

Serious mood swings, couldn't loose a pound to save my life. Basically, I was

miserable. I then found a person that strictly dealt with women's hormone

issues.

She wasn't even a doctor, but a nurse practioner. She literally saved my

life, my sanity and my marriage. I'm still not 100% but I'm better. She did

miss the celiac, but caught it later. I didn't have the biopsy, just the blood

test- which was good enough for me.

Here's what I did. I decided, with my husband (who is incredibly supportive)

to finally whip this thing. I have changed my diet to accomodate my celiac

-it's not easy. We moved back to the mountains, where we do really feel at

peace. I changed my career- actually we both did. We no longer have the high

stress, watching someone else raise our child, commute 2 hour a day job.

Granted, we make less than 1/2 the money we did, but we made it work. We left

the

toxic relationships. I know it may sound corny, but diet, armour and a few

other natural hormones worked and alot of excercise. We've had a few set

backs,

I broke my shoulder this year. I don't know if you are married, have kids or

what, but I firmly believe that you can't be a great mom or wife if you feel

like crap, you have to take care of yourself. I hope you figure this thing

out, and you are in great company here- I might not post alot, but I do read.

God Bless- Love

[Guest guest]

<<some of us become empowered from this illness>>

Well said Tina - you know the saying - you get sick & tired of being sick &

tired. You get angry at doctors that don't know how to treat this illness and

you search & search for the doctor to help you. For some of us it's the first

try, others it's trial & error. You feel so crappy in the beginning you just

want help and you entrust the person to help you, and when the treatment is not

what you need you need to find the strength to look elsewhere -- and never give

up! What doesn't kill you will make you stronger -- hopefully we'll all rise

from the complicated disease and do well!

I think you know what you need Kim --if you don't want the invasive test, try

completely eliminating gluten from your diet for at least a week and see how you

feel & try some of the suggestions of very knowledgeable people on this list,

keep at it and be determined to beat this & get your life back -- you so deserve

to live a full happy life -- not just exist and be so unhappy. I see your spunk

sometimes -- it's there -- you need to feel good have some fun!!! I know you

were looking into purchasing Armour over the net -- were you able to get some?

take care & I'm here pulling for you!!!!!

Re: Kim - personal

I was thinking about this last night--some of us become empowered

from this illness---like me --I am nuts attacking it from every angle-

-looking for every thing I can find to help--helping as many college

girls as we can (found another one this week) (soccer star that

gained 30 lbs)--we have taken the illness that has both my mom and

mother-in-law having major eye problems now--one diabetic as well---

fixing my sisters---my daughter--and myself and anyone else that I

can--or you can become the opposite and feel depressed and sorry for

yourself--and I am not being critical--it's that there is a time for

this and then you say to yourself either go or get off the pot type

of thing (just saw this on )---you say dam it I have to get

better and you are just not 100% there yet---you are here on this

group so you are maybe 75% but not 100% when you say to yourself I am

tried of being sick---(just as an example) because maybe getting out

all the anger is also the best way to help yourself---everyone is

different!!! but the key in all of this is realizing none of this is

your fault---you are sick and we are sick and we just have to stick

together--support each other and keep on pushing the doctors--keep on

pushing to get the answers and we will!!!!!!!!!!

I have come such a long way and all of us suffer from not feeling

100% all the time--such is life but not giving up is the key to keep

going!!!!! we are here we are support and answers and all of us

care!!! may not have time for everyone from every poster---but we all

know and feel what you are going though because we were all in your

shoes!!!!!!!!!!!

so keep going---chin up--keep reading and keep fighting---you will

succeed!!!! If I can you can we all can!!!!!!!!!!!!tina

> *hugs* oh wow you guys re so nice to me

>

>

[Guest guest]

*sniff HUGS*

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Interstitial-Cystitis

www.misskimberly.com

Re: Kim - personal

>

>

> > Hi Kim, I'll write you a more personal message...hopefully tonight...on

my

> way to work now. Just wanted to say I agree with 100%!!! I, too,

> have a long history of dealing with abuse and trauma, and therapy saved

my

> butt as well!!! It's something to think about.

> > I'll talk to you more later...just remember that you are a wonderful,

> beautiful, loving person...a flower on this Earth...You are special.

Believe

> it! You have endured so much in your life, and you are strong and

> courageous!!!

> > Love, hugs, and peace...Sheila

> >

> >

> > <melmac2525@...> wrote:

> > You're not a bad person. The Internet is full of nuts. People who like

> to be destructive and prey on others like doing it over the Internet

because

> the anonymity allows them to get away with it. This is why you have

> squelch, ignore, etc. commands on every site where you can interact with

> people. Use those things. As soon as someone is rude, get rid of the

> person. You don't need that.

> >

> > If you have a history of abuse, then you already have been taught to

> categorize things under negative categories like " My Fault, " " I'm Bad, "

" I'm

> Not As Good As Others, " and etc. You can do a lot for yourself by

changing

> your thinking. It takes some work but you can learn that people's

weirdness

> is their own, and not your fault or responsibility. You might want to

> seriously consider therapy...it can help a lot. I happen to be a

> psychologist but also have a history of abuse and I can tell you that

having

> therapy saved my butt.

> >

> > I would say that if you have no reason to be depressed, and you are,

then

> it might be thyoid or another chemical problem. If you are under extreme

> stress, have a history of abuse, etc. then you have a reason to be

> depressed. Therapy can help.

> >

> > Girlie <kckim@...> wrote:

> > I know ppl discuss depression as a thyroid symptom but is being

downright

> suicidal a symptom? Also I feel like everyone is out to hate me especially

> internet ppl. I try really hard to be nice nad help ppl and then for no

> reason they do amazingly mean things i wouldnt do to my worse enemy. I

feel

> so stupid and im so trusting.. like this one guy who i met on a game and

> was helping him suddenly hated me and i did nothing that i know of to

him..

> and now he is sending me horrific things like I hope you die nad good your

> bf beats you and making websites.. am i a bad eprson? i honestly try sooo

> hard till it hurts to help ppl.. and i feel why bother .. i feel like

> crawling into a hole and never talking again.. i am already super

antisocial

> and scared of ppl from being abused a lot and now I ahve to deal with

> internet ppl and i just dont know what I am doing or saying wrong i am

so

> emotional.. even dying on a video game makes me cry.. i just can't seem to

> be able to help myself.. im

> > trying so ahrd but to no avail

> >

> > im gonna charge these tests who care sof i charged my life away if im

> dead.. so better for me to test

> >

> > http://www.healthcheckusa.com/location_detail.php?id=715508

> >

> > heres the price list you gotta go tot he on screen button to the right

of

> the states drop down list

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

no the amrour place wouldnt take my check for soem reason??? i called them

but she was like mail them in florida nad i got distarced nad never did

Re: Kim - personal

>

>

> I was thinking about this last night--some of us become empowered

> from this illness---like me --I am nuts attacking it from every angle-

> -looking for every thing I can find to help--helping as many college

> girls as we can (found another one this week) (soccer star that

> gained 30 lbs)--we have taken the illness that has both my mom and

> mother-in-law having major eye problems now--one diabetic as well---

> fixing my sisters---my daughter--and myself and anyone else that I

> can--or you can become the opposite and feel depressed and sorry for

> yourself--and I am not being critical--it's that there is a time for

> this and then you say to yourself either go or get off the pot type

> of thing (just saw this on )---you say dam it I have to get

> better and you are just not 100% there yet---you are here on this

> group so you are maybe 75% but not 100% when you say to yourself I am

> tried of being sick---(just as an example) because maybe getting out

> all the anger is also the best way to help yourself---everyone is

> different!!! but the key in all of this is realizing none of this is

> your fault---you are sick and we are sick and we just have to stick

> together--support each other and keep on pushing the doctors--keep on

> pushing to get the answers and we will!!!!!!!!!!

>

> I have come such a long way and all of us suffer from not feeling

> 100% all the time--such is life but not giving up is the key to keep

> going!!!!! we are here we are support and answers and all of us

> care!!! may not have time for everyone from every poster---but we all

> know and feel what you are going though because we were all in your

> shoes!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> so keep going---chin up--keep reading and keep fighting---you will

> succeed!!!! If I can you can we all can!!!!!!!!!!!!tina

>

>

>

> > *hugs* oh wow you guys re so nice to me

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thanks cindy!

Re: Re: Kim - personal

> Hey Kim:

> I hope this helps- I was so desparate for so many years. The fatigue, the

> depression, the weight gain. Bottom line... I think you need to search,

never

> give up- because if you don't feel right, something is WRONG. As I said-

I

> started thyroid meds 6 years ago. I was on synthroid. About 3 years ago

I

> found Shouman's book. I DEMANDED my doctor switch me to Armour. At

that

> time, I was on a HMO. I think she thought I was nuts. Anyway, she did.

I did

> feel better, but not 100%. I then ended up at an old doc that hadn't

treated

> my for my hypo. He convinced me to go back on synthroid. BIG MISTAKE.

Mind

> you, this was the doctor that had sent my mom to the nutritionist that

> diagnosed her celiac. He did increase my dose. I still had periods from

hell.

> Serious mood swings, couldn't loose a pound to save my life. Basically, I

was

> miserable. I then found a person that strictly dealt with women's hormone

issues.

> She wasn't even a doctor, but a nurse practioner. She literally saved my

> life, my sanity and my marriage. I'm still not 100% but I'm better. She

did

> miss the celiac, but caught it later. I didn't have the biopsy, just the

blood

> test- which was good enough for me.

>

> Here's what I did. I decided, with my husband (who is incredibly

supportive)

> to finally whip this thing. I have changed my diet to accomodate my

celiac

> -it's not easy. We moved back to the mountains, where we do really feel

at

> peace. I changed my career- actually we both did. We no longer have the

high

> stress, watching someone else raise our child, commute 2 hour a day job.

> Granted, we make less than 1/2 the money we did, but we made it work. We

left the

> toxic relationships. I know it may sound corny, but diet, armour and a

few

> other natural hormones worked and alot of excercise. We've had a few set

backs,

> I broke my shoulder this year. I don't know if you are married, have kids

or

> what, but I firmly believe that you can't be a great mom or wife if you

feel

> like crap, you have to take care of yourself. I hope you figure this

thing

> out, and you are in great company here- I might not post alot, but I do

read.

> God Bless- Love

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thanks tina

Re: Kim - personal

> I was thinking about this last night--some of us become empowered

> from this illness---like me --I am nuts attacking it from every angle-

> -looking for every thing I can find to help--helping as many college

> girls as we can (found another one this week) (soccer star that

> gained 30 lbs)--we have taken the illness that has both my mom and

> mother-in-law having major eye problems now--one diabetic as well---

> fixing my sisters---my daughter--and myself and anyone else that I

> can--or you can become the opposite and feel depressed and sorry for

> yourself--and I am not being critical--it's that there is a time for

> this and then you say to yourself either go or get off the pot type

> of thing (just saw this on )---you say dam it I have to get

> better and you are just not 100% there yet---you are here on this

> group so you are maybe 75% but not 100% when you say to yourself I am

> tried of being sick---(just as an example) because maybe getting out

> all the anger is also the best way to help yourself---everyone is

> different!!! but the key in all of this is realizing none of this is

> your fault---you are sick and we are sick and we just have to stick

> together--support each other and keep on pushing the doctors--keep on

> pushing to get the answers and we will!!!!!!!!!!

>

> I have come such a long way and all of us suffer from not feeling

> 100% all the time--such is life but not giving up is the key to keep

> going!!!!! we are here we are support and answers and all of us

> care!!! may not have time for everyone from every poster---but we all

> know and feel what you are going though because we were all in your

> shoes!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> so keep going---chin up--keep reading and keep fighting---you will

> succeed!!!! If I can you can we all can!!!!!!!!!!!!tina

>

>

>

> > > I know ppl discuss depression as a thyroid symptom but is being

> downright

> > suicidal a symptom? Also I feel like everyone is out to hate me

> especially

> > internet ppl. I try really hard to be nice nad help ppl and then

> for no

> > reason they do amazingly mean things i wouldnt do to my worse

> enemy. I feel

> > so stupid and im so trusting.. like this one guy who i met on a

> game and

> > was helping him suddenly hated me and i did nothing that i know of

> to him..

> > and now he is sending me horrific things like I hope you die nad

> good your

> > bf beats you and making websites.. am i a bad eprson? i honestly

> try sooo

> > hard till it hurts to help ppl.. and i feel why bother .. i feel

> like

> > crawling into a hole and never talking again.. i am already super

> antisocial

> > and scared of ppl from being abused a lot and now I ahve to deal

> with

> > internet ppl and i just dont know what I am doing or saying wrong :

> ( i am so

> > emotional.. even dying on a video game makes me cry.. i just can't

> seem to

> > be able to help myself.. im

> > > trying so ahrd but to no avail

> > >

> > > im gonna charge these tests who care sof i charged my life away

> if im

> > dead.. so better for me to test

> > >

> > > http://www.healthcheckusa.com/location_detail.php?id=715508

> > >

> > > heres the price list you gotta go tot he on screen button to the

> right of

> > the states drop down list

> > >

> > >