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Your mom, my mom and Sheila's mom need Armour plus adrenal hormones.

These hormones are cheap and give a person their life back but so sadly it's

almost impossible to get proper treatment. Might be able to find a

competent doc from

http://www.brodabarnes.org

http://www.womensinternational.com

Gracia

> you need armour to feel much better if synthroid is not doing it for

> you!!! or try any mutli- glandular product--you will feel the

> difference in a week!!

>

> My mom and your story are almost identical too! Except she has high

> BP and the doctors tell her they don't know how to lower it--I keep

> on begging her to tell her doctors to give her armour!!! makes me

> totally crazy they won't.

>

>

> > I just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of the

> > information/experiences with this group.

> >

> > I had what was diagnosed as the flu, then pneumonia in

> > November/December. Went back to the doc in January because several

> > of the symptoms weren't going away. At that appointment they did

> > lab work and diagnosed hypothyroidism and said that was causing

> > all of my symptoms (weight gain, fatigue, dry skin, etc.). I've

> > been on synthroid (50 mcg) since that time.

> > Went back for a follow-up a couple times since January. The first

> > time back after starting synthroid, the lab results showed that the

> > dosage was correct, but the symptoms still weren't going away. Did

> > some additional testing to rule out lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and

> > a few other illnesses. This time the lab results indicated chronic

> > mono. So then the doc said that was causing the continued

> symptoms.

> >

> > The next follow-up my doc was out, so had to see one of her

> > associates...........his words of wisdom, " You'll feel better some

> > day, my wife gets tired too " .

> >

> > Since I'm 39 and his wife is probably in her late 60's early 70's,

> I

> > was not impressed at the comparison and he was absolutely no help

> at

> > all.

> >

> > Needless to say, I'm extremely frustrated with this entire

> > situation. I am happy to have found this group and know that there

> > are others dealing with the same frustrations.

> >

> > Angie

>

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I’m new to this group and I just wanted to know if anyone else has read

anything about Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis being cured with Doxycycline? Right

before I was diagnosed with H/T..I had to be treated for Thrush…and I

wondered if maybe I had the kind that CAN be treated. I take Synthroid now

and I keep gaining weight. Last April I had a body lift and lipo and I

work out 5 days a week..but yet I have gained 40 lbs since being diagnosed.

When I had the surgery…I lost 10 lbs…but gained it back plus 10 more. Can

anyone help me? I don’t know my lab values..but I’m going to my dr and get

my values checked this week…I’ll be sure to find out what they are.

Re: New to t his group

somehow I missed Angie---the only way to get rid of mono is bed rest--

juicing veggies and fruits and tons of extra C---need to clean out

that liver and help your kidneys---lots of water too!!! cranberry is

great--and even better pineapple---big time---drink a quart a day

will help the inflammation!!!! this is a tough one to beat but you

can do it if you drown yourself in as much healthy fruit and veggie

juice and vitamins!!!

> I just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of the

> information/experiences with this group.

>

> I had what was diagnosed as the flu, then pneumonia in

> November/December. Went back to the doc in January because several

> of the symptoms weren't going away. At that appointment they did

> lab work and diagnosed hypothyroidism and said that was causing

> all of my symptoms (weight gain, fatigue, dry skin, etc.). I've

> been on synthroid (50 mcg) since that time.

> Went back for a follow-up a couple times since January. The first

> time back after starting synthroid, the lab results showed that the

> dosage was correct, but the symptoms still weren't going away. Did

> some additional testing to rule out lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and

> a few other illnesses. This time the lab results indicated chronic

> mono. So then the doc said that was causing the continued

symptoms.

>

> The next follow-up my doc was out, so had to see one of her

> associates...........his words of wisdom, " You'll feel better some

> day, my wife gets tired too " .

>

> Since I'm 39 and his wife is probably in her late 60's early 70's,

I

> was not impressed at the comparison and he was absolutely no help

at

> all.

>

> Needless to say, I'm extremely frustrated with this entire

> situation. I am happy to have found this group and know that there

> are others dealing with the same frustrations.

>

> Angie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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IT’s been 4 yrs since I was treated for the thrush. He treated the thrush

with antibiotics…but I later went to a Homeopathic and he gave me Candida

and some other cleansing herbs. The reason I was asking about anyone

knowing about the Doxycycline is because of an article I read…here’s the

link to it. This way you can make your own decisions.

By the way…I’m going to the doctor tomorrow….can anyone tell me what tests I

need to ask my doctor to run on me?

Thanks…

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/yersinia.htm

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>

> somehow I missed Angie---the only way to get rid of mono is bed

rest--

> juicing veggies and fruits and tons of extra C---need to clean out

> that liver and help your kidneys---lots of water too!!! cranberry is

> great--and even better pineapple---big time---drink a quart a day

> will help the inflammation!!!! this is a tough one to beat but you

> can do it if you drown yourself in as much healthy fruit and veggie

> juice and vitamins!!!

>

>

>

> > I just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of the

> > information/experiences with this group.

> >

> > I had what was diagnosed as the flu, then pneumonia in

> > November/December. Went back to the doc in January because several

> > of the symptoms weren't going away. At that appointment they did

> > lab work and diagnosed hypothyroidism and said that was causing

> > all of my symptoms (weight gain, fatigue, dry skin, etc.). I've

> > been on synthroid (50 mcg) since that time.

> > Went back for a follow-up a couple times since January. The first

> > time back after starting synthroid, the lab results showed that

the

> > dosage was correct, but the symptoms still weren't going away.

Did

> > some additional testing to rule out lupus, rheumatoid arthritis

and

> > a few other illnesses. This time the lab results indicated

chronic

> > mono. So then the doc said that was causing the continued

> symptoms.

> >

> > The next follow-up my doc was out, so had to see one of her

> > associates...........his words of wisdom, " You'll feel better some

> > day, my wife gets tired too " .

> >

> > Since I'm 39 and his wife is probably in her late 60's early 70's,

> I

> > was not impressed at the comparison and he was absolutely no help

> at

> > all.

> >

> > Needless to say, I'm extremely frustrated with this entire

> > situation. I am happy to have found this group and know that

there

> > are others dealing with the same frustrations.

> >

> > Angie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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hi , and welcome! i have Hashi's & hypoT...never heard of there being any

cure for Hashi's.

how long have you been taking Synthroid, and also, what dosage are you taking?

do you have any idea how high your antibodies were?

i don't know how long ago you were diagnosed, but I'm wondering if you were told

some basic things...like calcium and soy, among other things can interefere with

your thyroid meds. let me know if you need more information.

my mom is in the same boat as you regarding weight. she's actually gaining.

she's on synthroid but her doc is getting ready to switch her to Armour, which

is what I'm taking.

anyway, I will try to write more later...gotta get up in 4 1/2 hours...haven't

been to bed yet.

hang in. hugs, sheila

mountnmansangel2@... wrote:

I’m new to this group and I just wanted to know if anyone else has read

anything about Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis being cured with Doxycycline? Right

before I was diagnosed with H/T..I had to be treated for Thrush…and I

wondered if maybe I had the kind that CAN be treated. I take Synthroid now

and I keep gaining weight. Last April I had a body lift and lipo and I

work out 5 days a week..but yet I have gained 40 lbs since being diagnosed.

When I had the surgery…I lost 10 lbs…but gained it back plus 10 more. Can

anyone help me? I don’t know my lab values..but I’m going to my dr and get

my values checked this week…I’ll be sure to find out what they are.

Re: New to t his group

somehow I missed Angie---the only way to get rid of mono is bed rest--

juicing veggies and fruits and tons of extra C---need to clean out

that liver and help your kidneys---lots of water too!!! cranberry is

great--and even better pineapple---big time---drink a quart a day

will help the inflammation!!!! this is a tough one to beat but you

can do it if you drown yourself in as much healthy fruit and veggie

juice and vitamins!!!

> I just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of the

> information/experiences with this group.

>

> I had what was diagnosed as the flu, then pneumonia in

> November/December. Went back to the doc in January because several

> of the symptoms weren't going away. At that appointment they did

> lab work and diagnosed hypothyroidism and said that was causing

> all of my symptoms (weight gain, fatigue, dry skin, etc.). I've

> been on synthroid (50 mcg) since that time.

> Went back for a follow-up a couple times since January. The first

> time back after starting synthroid, the lab results showed that the

> dosage was correct, but the symptoms still weren't going away. Did

> some additional testing to rule out lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and

> a few other illnesses. This time the lab results indicated chronic

> mono. So then the doc said that was causing the continued

symptoms.

>

> The next follow-up my doc was out, so had to see one of her

> associates...........his words of wisdom, " You'll feel better some

> day, my wife gets tired too " .

>

> Since I'm 39 and his wife is probably in her late 60's early 70's,

I

> was not impressed at the comparison and he was absolutely no help

at

> all.

>

> Needless to say, I'm extremely frustrated with this entire

> situation. I am happy to have found this group and know that there

> are others dealing with the same frustrations.

>

> Angie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Can you tell me what interefere with my thyroid meds i'm on the yellow

sythroid pill and i like to learn more about this

Hugs

a

Re: New to t his group

somehow I missed Angie---the only way to get rid of mono is bed rest--

juicing veggies and fruits and tons of extra C---need to clean out

that liver and help your kidneys---lots of water too!!! cranberry is

great--and even better pineapple---big time---drink a quart a day

will help the inflammation!!!! this is a tough one to beat but you

can do it if you drown yourself in as much healthy fruit and veggie

juice and vitamins!!!

> I just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of the

> information/experiences with this group.

>

> I had what was diagnosed as the flu, then pneumonia in

> November/December. Went back to the doc in January because several

> of the symptoms weren't going away. At that appointment they did

> lab work and diagnosed hypothyroidism and said that was causing

> all of my symptoms (weight gain, fatigue, dry skin, etc.). I've

> been on synthroid (50 mcg) since that time.

> Went back for a follow-up a couple times since January. The first

> time back after starting synthroid, the lab results showed that the

> dosage was correct, but the symptoms still weren't going away. Did

> some additional testing to rule out lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and

> a few other illnesses. This time the lab results indicated chronic

> mono. So then the doc said that was causing the continued

symptoms.

>

> The next follow-up my doc was out, so had to see one of her

> associates...........his words of wisdom, " You'll feel better some

> day, my wife gets tired too " .

>

> Since I'm 39 and his wife is probably in her late 60's early 70's,

I

> was not impressed at the comparison and he was absolutely no help

at

> all.

>

> Needless to say, I'm extremely frustrated with this entire

> situation. I am happy to have found this group and know that there

> are others dealing with the same frustrations.

>

> Angie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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good morning a. Sorry this has to be quick...welcome here...a lot of good

folks and info here. take care. keep in touch with us. hugs,sheila

Here's the info you wanted:

Thyroid Drugs

Frequently Asked Questions about Food, Drug and Supplement Interactions

by Shomon

Many people ask about specific drugs, supplements and foods and whether or not

you can take them when you're taking thyroid hormones. Here's a review of some

of the current thinking. (Please note that this is by no means a comprehensive

listing of all drug interactions, so be sure to ask for and read your patient

insert that comes with your prescriptions, and always talk to your doctor and

pharmacist regarding specific questions.)

Should You Take Your Thyroid Hormone With Food vs. An Empty Stomach?

What is the Impact of a High Fiber Diet?

What About Iodine and Kelp Supplements?

How About " Goitrogenic " Foods Like Kale or Brussels Sprouts?

Is There a Problem with Antacids?

What About Calcium and Calcium-Fortified Orange Juice?

What About Over the Counter Drugs Like Cough Medicines, Cold Medicines,

Decongestants?

How Should You Take Vitamins with Iron?

What About Thyroid Hormone and Estrogen? (i.e., Hormone Replacement Therapy,

Birth Control Pills)

What Do You Need to Know About Some Other Prescription Drugs? [insulin,

Tricyclic Antidepressants, Cholesterol-Lowering Drugs and Blood Thinners]

Q. Should You Take Your Thyroid Hormone With Food vs. An Empty Stomach?

Food may delay or reduce the absorption of many drugs, including thyroid

hormone. Food can often slow the process of the stomach entering, but it may

also affect absorption of the drug you're taking by binding with it, by

decreasing access to absorption sites, by altering the rate at which it

dissolves, or by changing the stomach's pH balance. This is why many doctors

recommend that for best absorption of your thyroid hormone, you should take it

first thing the morning, on an empty stomach, one hour before eating.

Many doctors recommend that for best absorption of your thyroid hormone, take it

first thing the morning, on an empty stomach, and wait one hour before eating,

and at least two hours before taking any vitamin with iron.

However, if you cannot take it this way, consistency becomes the key. If you're

going to take your thyroid hormone with food, take it every day with food,

consistently. If you've changed from taking it on an empty stomach, then around

six to eight weeks after you start taking it with food, you should have another

TSH test to ensure you're receiving the proper amount of thyroid hormone. Taking

the drug with food might inhibit absorption somewhat, but this safety check will

make sure your dosage gets tweaked if it needs to be changed slightly. But

again, CONSISTENCY. Don't take it some days with food, some days without, or

you're sure to have erratic absorption, and it will be harder to regulate your

TSH levels.

Q. What is the Impact of a High Fiber Diet?

Given that many people on thyroid replacement therapy are fighting an additional

battle to lose weight, high fiber diets are also an issue. Anything that affects

your digestion speed or speed of absorption of items into the stomach can have

an effect on your absorption of thyroid hormone. Since high-fiber diets can,

ahem, speed things up a bit, they are known to inhibit absorption for some

people. So, should you forget about eating high-fiber? Absolutely not!!! Since

the benefits of fruits, vegetables and a high-fiber diet are known, again, the

issue here is consistency. If you are already eating a high-fiber diet

regularly, and have regular TSH testing done, your dosage level is appropriate

for you, given your diet. If you are starting a new regimen of eating

high-fiber, plan to get tested around six to eight weeks after you change your

diet, to make sure you're receiving the proper amount of thyroid hormone. But be

consistent. Don't jump around, or you'll have erratic absorption,

and that can wreak havoc on TSH levels...AND how you feel! But again, taking

your thyroid hormone first thing a.m. on an empty stomach, and waiting at least

an hour to eat, will ensure maximum absorption, whatever your diet is!

Q. What About Iodine and Kelp Supplements?

While some herbalists and vitamin proponents recommend iodine tablets or kelp

supplements (which are high in iodine) for people with thyroid problems, you

need to be extremely careful about any decision to take iodine or kelp

supplements if you are on thyroid hormone replacement therapy.

The thinking behind taking iodine or kelp is that in many parts of the world,

goiters and thyroid disease are related to iodine deficiency. In the U.S. and

other developed countries, iodine deficiency is not very common anymore, due to

the addition of iodine to salt -- iodized salt -- and other food products. In

fact, the most common forms of thyroid disease found in the U.S. -- autoimmune

thyroid diseases like Graves' Disease or Hashimoto's Thyroiditis -- have nothing

to do with iodine deficiency at all. Actually, thyroids are extremely sensitive

to iodine, and you need to be careful about adding too much iodine to the diet

as it can irritate or aggravate the thyroid. Most doctors say not to worry about

some iodized salt, or the iodine present in a food item such as an occasional

sushi dinner. But even alternative nutritional doctor Langer, author of

Solved: The Riddle of Illness, the follow-up book to Broda '

Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness, advises against

taking iodine or kelp supplements for people with autoimmune thyroid disease.

Q. How About " Goitrogenic " Foods Like Kale or Brussels Sprouts?

Goitrogenic foods like brussels sprouts, rutabaga, turnips, cauliflower, African

cassava, millet, babassu (a palm-tree coconut fruit popular in Brazil and

Africa) cabbage, and kale can act like the antithyroid drugs propylthiouracil

and methimazole in disabling the thyroid function, so they should not be eaten

in large amounts by someone on thyroid hormone replacement who still has a

thyroid. It's thought that the enzymes involved in the formation of goitrogenic

materials in plants can be destroyed by cooking, so thorough cooking may

minimize goitrogenic potential.

Q. Is There a Problem with Antacids?

Antacids -- like Tums, or Mylanta, in liquid or tablet forms -- may delay or

reduce the absorption of thyroid drugs, and therefore, should also be taken at

least two hours apart from when you take your thyroid hormone.

Q. What About Calcium and Calcium-Fortified Orange Juice?

Like antacids, calcium can interfere with the absorption of thyroid drugs. You

should take calcium at least two to three hours apart from taking your thyroid

hormone. The same holds true for calcium-fortified orange or apple juice. You

should not take your thyroid hormone at the same time as calcium-fortified

juice.

Q. What about Over the Counter Drugs Like Cough Medicines, Cold Medicines,

Decongestants?

Most packages of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines and decongestants say

" Do not take if you have one of the following... " and then goes on to list

thyroid disease. While you should always check with your doctor, it's generally

understood that this warning is more applicable for people with hyperthyroidism

(overactive thyroid) than hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid). Because these

drugs contain stimulants, the logic is for someone with hyperthyroidism to avoid

adding even further stimulation or strain on the heart from these drugs. That

said, some people with hypothyroidism do find that they become sensitive to

ingredients like pseudoephedrine, what you'd typically find in Sudafed or other

decongestants. Some doctors will recomend you try only a partial dose, and see

if you have a reaction, and only then try to work you way up to the normal dose

and see if it bothers you.

Q. How Should You Take Vitamins with Iron?

Iron, whether alone, or as part of a multivitamin or prenatal vitamin

supplement, interferes with thyroid hormone absorption. You should not take your

vitamins with iron at the same time as your thyroid hormone, and should allow at

least two hours between taking them.

Q. What About Thyroid Hormone and Estrogen? (i.e., Hormone Replacement Therapy,

Birth Control Pills)

Women taking estrogen (either as hormone replacement -- i.e., Premarin -- or in

birth control pills) may need to take more thyroid replacement hormone. Estrogen

increases the body's production of a blood protein that binds thyroid hormone to

it, making it inactive. For women without thyroids in particular, this can cause

a need to increase the dosage level slightly, as there is no thyroid to

compensate. After beginning any estrogen therapy, a woman should always have TSH

tested to see if the estrogen is having an impact on overall TSH and thyroid

function and might require a dosage adjustment.

Q.What Do You Need to Know About Some Other Prescription Drugs?

Always check with your physician or pharmacist regarding any potential

interactions of prescription drugs, herbs and supplements with your thyroid

drugs. But some of the better known interactions include the following:

Antidepressants

Use of tricyclic antidepressants at the same time as thyroid hormones may

increase the effects of both drugs, and may accelerate the effects of the

antidepressant. Be sure your doctor knows you are on one before prescribing the

other.

Insulin

Insulin and the similar oral hypoglycemic drugs for diabetes can reduce the

effectiveness of thyroid hormone. Be sure your doctor knows you are on one

before prescribing the other. If you're on insulin or an oral hypoglycemic, you

should be closely watched during the initiation of thyroid replacement therapy.

Cholesterol-Lowering Drugs (Cholestyramine or Colestipol -- Colestrol, Questran,

Colestid)

These cholesterol-lowering drugs bind thyroid hormones, and a minimum of four to

five hours should elapse between taking these drugs and thyroid hormones.

Anticoagulants ( " Blood Thinners " )

Anticoagulant (blood thinning) drugs like Warfarin, Coumadin or Heparin can on

occasion become stronger in the system when thyroid hormone is added to the mix.

Be sure to mention to your doctor if you are on one or the other, and a new

prescription is added.

Sticking Out Our Necks and this website are © Copyright Shomon, 1997-2003.

All rights reserved. Shomon, Editor/Webmaster

All information is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a

substitute for medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. You

should seek prompt medical care for any specific health issues and consult your

physician or health practitioner before starting a new treatment program. Please

see our full disclaimer.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/thyroid-drug-faq.htm

This link will give you info about hypoT basics

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/basics_starthere/index.htm

a Milligan <lets_be_friends_1977@...> wrote:

Can you tell me what interefere with my thyroid meds i'm on the yellow

sythroid pill and i like to learn more about this

Hugs

a

Re: New to t his group

somehow I missed Angie---the only way to get rid of mono is bed rest--

juicing veggies and fruits and tons of extra C---need to clean out

that liver and help your kidneys---lots of water too!!! cranberry is

great--and even better pineapple---big time---drink a quart a day

will help the inflammation!!!! this is a tough one to beat but you

can do it if you drown yourself in as much healthy fruit and veggie

juice and vitamins!!!

> I just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of the

> information/experiences with this group.

>

> I had what was diagnosed as the flu, then pneumonia in

> November/December. Went back to the doc in January because several

> of the symptoms weren't going away. At that appointment they did

> lab work and diagnosed hypothyroidism and said that was causing

> all of my symptoms (weight gain, fatigue, dry skin, etc.). I've

> been on synthroid (50 mcg) since that time.

> Went back for a follow-up a couple times since January. The first

> time back after starting synthroid, the lab results showed that the

> dosage was correct, but the symptoms still weren't going away. Did

> some additional testing to rule out lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and

> a few other illnesses. This time the lab results indicated chronic

> mono. So then the doc said that was causing the continued

symptoms.

>

> The next follow-up my doc was out, so had to see one of her

> associates...........his words of wisdom, " You'll feel better some

> day, my wife gets tired too " .

>

> Since I'm 39 and his wife is probably in her late 60's early 70's,

I

> was not impressed at the comparison and he was absolutely no help

at

> all.

>

> Needless to say, I'm extremely frustrated with this entire

> situation. I am happy to have found this group and know that there

> are others dealing with the same frustrations.

>

> Angie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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thank you for the inforamtion

Hugs

a

Re: New to t his group

somehow I missed Angie---the only way to get rid of mono is bed rest--

juicing veggies and fruits and tons of extra C---need to clean out

that liver and help your kidneys---lots of water too!!! cranberry is

great--and even better pineapple---big time---drink a quart a day

will help the inflammation!!!! this is a tough one to beat but you

can do it if you drown yourself in as much healthy fruit and veggie

juice and vitamins!!!

> I just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of the

> information/experiences with this group.

>

> I had what was diagnosed as the flu, then pneumonia in

> November/December. Went back to the doc in January because several

> of the symptoms weren't going away. At that appointment they did

> lab work and diagnosed hypothyroidism and said that was causing

> all of my symptoms (weight gain, fatigue, dry skin, etc.). I've

> been on synthroid (50 mcg) since that time.

> Went back for a follow-up a couple times since January. The first

> time back after starting synthroid, the lab results showed that the

> dosage was correct, but the symptoms still weren't going away. Did

> some additional testing to rule out lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and

> a few other illnesses. This time the lab results indicated chronic

> mono. So then the doc said that was causing the continued

symptoms.

>

> The next follow-up my doc was out, so had to see one of her

> associates...........his words of wisdom, " You'll feel better some

> day, my wife gets tired too " .

>

> Since I'm 39 and his wife is probably in her late 60's early 70's,

I

> was not impressed at the comparison and he was absolutely no help

at

> all.

>

> Needless to say, I'm extremely frustrated with this entire

> situation. I am happy to have found this group and know that there

> are others dealing with the same frustrations.

>

> Angie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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