Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 The Endo that I started out with..refused to put me on Armour Thyroid..so I went to my MD and he put me on it. Then I changed MD’s and she took me off of it..saying it was too hard to adjust the dosage. Do you have a problem adjusting the dosage with it? I actually felt better when I took it. I work out at Curves for Women 5 days a week..which I really enjoy. I have a treadmill though…so I need to get started on it again. I was up to 5 miles a day..and then in Sept I broke my ankle…and never got back into it. I have a steel plate and 12 screws in it now..so it makes it kinda uncomfortable..but not as uncomfortable as these excess lbs!! Thanks for all of the advice!! ----Original Message----- From: tina83862 [mailto:tina83862@...] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 10:45 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: here they are--- first figure out what kind of thyroid problem you have--exactly! some do well on synthroid if they have no t3 problem or adrenal issues--but I would rather you take armour because of the long term use of synthroid and possible calcium depletion that can happen with long term use of it. some have to be on synthetics and some are better off on glandulars--- a lot depends on your conditions. I am all for the body healing if it can--and I do believe it can if given the proper nutrients but long term damage can impair glands and they need replacement hormones as well. So everything depends on your condition--but most doctors (MD's) will just treat the symptoms not try and heal you---that is just not something they have the time to do. The majority of thyroid patients never get the proper tests needed to determine what is really going on with their body. Oh I just have low thyroid, daughter has hypo and so does mom--they do suffer with weight--while I maintain my build most of the time--I don't have the answer for this yet---but I feel it can only be repaired with proper thyroid treatments. We have had posters here on 800 calories per day and still not lose--- so it's not what you eat it's how you burn those dam calories!!!! but many do better on low carbing---(no sugar, white flour--breads, pasta type diet)--allowed are -whole grains and brown rice, veggies, meats and chicken (lean), fish and some fruits--- walking seems to be the best--swimming is not good if it chills the thyroid patient---but great if it's warm water!!!! tina > Tina.. > > Do you have a problem with your weight? I know my dr''s just going to keep > me on my Synthroid..but what can I do ..once I get my values? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Tina, You wrote: > ... this is such a joke this dosage issue---armour you take twice a day-- > that is the only difference because both types have to be adjusted to > your symptoms and test results so what is the issue?? It's big pharma > makes bigger bucks with synthroid types--armour is very cheap > compared. Retail suppliers on the web offer 100 mcg Synthroid for 18 to 25 cents per day. The generics are even cheaper. How much is the Armour for a comparable condition? From what I have found, the daily cost for the Armour is roughly double, at least in the U.S. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 I always thought that synthetics cost more than Armour. Maybe synthroid is cheaper online. I pay $8/mo copay for Armour. It is $20 copay for cortef so I have been ordering from England ($36 for 3 months includes shipping) Gracia > Tina, > > You wrote: > > > ... this is such a joke this dosage issue---armour you take twice a day-- > > that is the only difference because both types have to be adjusted to > > your symptoms and test results so what is the issue?? It's big pharma > > makes bigger bucks with synthroid types--armour is very cheap > > compared. > > Retail suppliers on the web offer 100 mcg Synthroid for 18 to 25 cents > per day. The generics are even cheaper. How much is the Armour for a > comparable condition? From what I have found, the daily cost for the > Armour is roughly double, at least in the U.S. > > Chuck > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Hi Gracia. Where do you buy Cortef if the doc won't prescribe it? Also Isocort too. My tests all show normal except midnight salivary cortisol levels are a little low out of the range. What happens if your tests show normal even though your symptoms aren't? They are only looking for signs of blood abnormalities correlating with s not adrenal fatigue. Not sure if there are any dangers of taking either the Cortef or IsoCort if adrenals are functioning even sub optimally. Chris Re: Re: here they are--- I always thought that synthetics cost more than Armour. Maybe synthroid is cheaper online. I pay $8/mo copay for Armour. It is $20 copay for cortef so I have been ordering from England ($36 for 3 months includes shipping) Gracia > Tina, > > You wrote: > > > ... this is such a joke this dosage issue---armour you take twice a day-- > > that is the only difference because both types have to be adjusted to > > your symptoms and test results so what is the issue?? It's big pharma > > makes bigger bucks with synthroid types--armour is very cheap > > compared. > > Retail suppliers on the web offer 100 mcg Synthroid for 18 to 25 cents > per day. The generics are even cheaper. How much is the Armour for a > comparable condition? From what I have found, the daily cost for the > Armour is roughly double, at least in the U.S. > > Chuck > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Really? I am not sure where to get isocort but you night try that first. I order hydrocortone from http://www.mastersmarketing.com It really really helps me. My saliva test showed cortisol level to be high, high normal, high, high normal!!! DHEA was high too. 24 hr urine test showed cortisol and DHEA to be LOW. Cortef and 7-keto DHEA 50mg made me feel lots better. If you feel better on isocort but not completely, then you could graduate to cortef. Or maybe DHEA would help. Gracia > Hi Gracia. Where do you buy Cortef if the doc won't prescribe it? Also Isocort too. My tests all show normal except midnight salivary cortisol levels are a little low out of the range. What happens if your tests show normal even though your symptoms aren't? They are only looking for signs of blood abnormalities correlating with s not adrenal fatigue. Not sure if there are any dangers of taking either the Cortef or IsoCort if adrenals are functioning even sub optimally. > > Chris > Re: Re: here they are--- > > > > I always thought that synthetics cost more than Armour. Maybe synthroid is > cheaper online. I pay $8/mo copay for Armour. It is $20 copay for cortef > so I have been ordering from England ($36 for 3 months includes shipping) > Gracia > > > Tina, > > > > You wrote: > > > > > ... this is such a joke this dosage issue---armour you take twice a > day-- > > > that is the only difference because both types have to be adjusted to > > > your symptoms and test results so what is the issue?? It's big pharma > > > makes bigger bucks with synthroid types--armour is very cheap > > > compared. > > > > Retail suppliers on the web offer 100 mcg Synthroid for 18 to 25 cents > > per day. The generics are even cheaper. How much is the Armour for a > > comparable condition? From what I have found, the daily cost for the > > Armour is roughly double, at least in the U.S. > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 How can I order my Armour from England ??? Re: Re: here they are--- I always thought that synthetics cost more than Armour. Maybe synthroid is cheaper online. I pay $8/mo copay for Armour. It is $20 copay for cortef so I have been ordering from England ($36 for 3 months includes shipping) Gracia > Tina, > > You wrote: > > > ... this is such a joke this dosage issue---armour you take twice a day-- > > that is the only difference because both types have to be adjusted to > > your symptoms and test results so what is the issue?? It's big pharma > > makes bigger bucks with synthroid types--armour is very cheap > > compared. > > Retail suppliers on the web offer 100 mcg Synthroid for 18 to 25 cents > per day. The generics are even cheaper. How much is the Armour for a > comparable condition? From what I have found, the daily cost for the > Armour is roughly double, at least in the U.S. > > Chuck > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 hi. i'm taking 120 mgs. of Armour. It cost me $11 or $12 a month. When I was taking Levoxyl, it cost me $20-$25 a month. sheila Gracia <circe@...> wrote: I always thought that synthetics cost more than Armour. Maybe synthroid is cheaper online. I pay $8/mo copay for Armour. It is $20 copay for cortef so I have been ordering from England ($36 for 3 months includes shipping) Gracia > Tina, > > You wrote: > > > ... this is such a joke this dosage issue---armour you take twice a day-- > > that is the only difference because both types have to be adjusted to > > your symptoms and test results so what is the issue?? It's big pharma > > makes bigger bucks with synthroid types--armour is very cheap > > compared. > > Retail suppliers on the web offer 100 mcg Synthroid for 18 to 25 cents > per day. The generics are even cheaper. How much is the Armour for a > comparable condition? From what I have found, the daily cost for the > Armour is roughly double, at least in the U.S. > > Chuck > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 Gracia wrote: > I always thought that synthetics cost more than Armour. Maybe synthroid is > cheaper online. I pay $8/mo copay for Armour. ... Well, co-pay is more a function of the insurance, so it is hard to compare. Last year my co-pay for a month of Synthroid was $2. This year it increased to $5. It has always been the minimum co-pay for Synthroid for the short time I have been on it. I pay a lot more for other prescriptions. I can't seem to find Armour prices to compare, but the first listing of Levothyroxine (generic) at my dosage I came to was $1.50 per month or 5 cents per day, U.S. That same supplier charges 19 cents per day for Synthroid or $5.70 per month. My insurance is probably paying at least double that, but I still can't beat my co-pay by shopping in Canada. You may be thinking Synthroid is so expensive from the many years when Knoll engaged in unfair practices to beat down equivalent drugs and before the patent ran out on their process. When patents run out, both prices and market share tend to drop dramatically. Knoll lost a class action lawsuit over this and has since sold the process to Abbott Labs. The pharmaceutical firms think of the patent years as 17 years of paying off the investment in research. Victims of the disease tend to think of it as 17 years of price gouging. At any rate, the prices have fallen, especially for the other brands. BTW, Synthroid has also fallen in market share to fourth most prescribed drug. I suspect all forms of T4 combined may still lead. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 wow yes I think $ynthroid used to be a lot more expensive. Also a factor to figure in would be being able to eliminate other drugs on Armour, that would be needed on $ynthroid. BTW I googled homeopathy and quantum physics and there are tons of articles, some might be a bit flaky though Have to look at it again. Gracia > Gracia wrote: > > > I always thought that synthetics cost more than Armour. Maybe synthroid is > > cheaper online. I pay $8/mo copay for Armour. ... > > Well, co-pay is more a function of the insurance, so it is hard to > compare. Last year my co-pay for a month of Synthroid was $2. This year > it increased to $5. It has always been the minimum co-pay for Synthroid > for the short time I have been on it. I pay a lot more for other > prescriptions. > > I can't seem to find Armour prices to compare, but the first listing of > Levothyroxine (generic) at my dosage I came to was $1.50 per month or 5 > cents per day, U.S. That same supplier charges 19 cents per day for > Synthroid or $5.70 per month. My insurance is probably paying at least > double that, but I still can't beat my co-pay by shopping in Canada. > > You may be thinking Synthroid is so expensive from the many years when > Knoll engaged in unfair practices to beat down equivalent drugs and > before the patent ran out on their process. When patents run out, both > prices and market share tend to drop dramatically. Knoll lost a class > action lawsuit over this and has since sold the process to Abbott Labs. > > The pharmaceutical firms think of the patent years as 17 years of paying > off the investment in research. Victims of the disease tend to think of > it as 17 years of price gouging. At any rate, the prices have fallen, > especially for the other brands. > > BTW, Synthroid has also fallen in market share to fourth most prescribed > drug. I suspect all forms of T4 combined may still lead. > > Chuck > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 I do not have insurance to help with Synthroid costs, but I only pay 12.00 for a 30 day supply. I was paying about 10.00 for Armour, so they arent that different where I live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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