Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Hello Tina and thanks so much for your replies, you have helped alot.. I really appreiacate all your replies..I am very worried about my liver . i am not sure why it is doing what it is doing.. I do not drink any alcolol or nothin., I do eat fatty foods, i cant lie about that girl.. lol- But i do exercise all the time.. I am trying to lose more weight.. I have done really good so far but it seem my body took a time out because lately i havent noticed any loss.. I am on pills for my sugar highness.. doc told me i have diabetes now.. oh joy oh joy... I love being on armour.. it helps me alot.. I just cant understand why I am so tired all the time.. It may be that I have my days and nights mixed up.. me and my hubby stay up until 5-6am and dont get out of bed until 2-3pm. sometimes 4pm,, I think that may be some of the problem.. but I am not sure.. Let me ask you this.. will I die because of my liver being like this>>? How do I find out how damaged my liver really is.? doctor has tested me for hep a,b,c and I am fine on those tests.. what other illnesses result to the liver,, do you know? and you said something about another thyrod issue but I just totally forgot what you said.. (adunale problems)) ?? I forgot.. anyways if you know what I am talking about. what exacty does tha mean? what do I need to do on that>?> is 90mg enough to take on armour.. I was wondering would it be okay to add some cytomel 25 mg to the 90 mg of armour. with the tsh result I sent to you what do you think would be a good idea or not..? I think the tsh was 4.32.. I cant remember at all girl.. well honey thanks so much for all your help and I hope things are okay for you.. Keisha tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote:Keisha you have a lot going on and it's going to have to take a lot of change to get you as well as can be expected. And most of this is on you. If you do everything right it could still take a year to a few years to get better and you still could have lingering problems. You are on the verge of diabetes or already have it--both your tests indicate this is a strong possibility. You have too much fat in your blood steam --could be liver is not digesting the fat and or you are eating way too much fat. You have liver problems which is why you are so ill-- You also have thyroid problems not as bad as you thought though---just t4 is low- Increasing your Armour to 90 mgs is a good start from 60 mgs. that you take now. I would listen to when she suggested you try and increase it. If you are getting sicker from taking more than you know you also have adrenal problems as well---- and that means you will have to take adrenal glandulars as well as supplements to heal the adrenals If you feel worse on Armour one of the synthetics may work better for you, since it looks like you are converting t4 into t3 well enough. (but I would suggest staying on armour) Your untreated thyroid disease can cause all of this as well as some other illnesses you may have because of the liver involvement. But I don't want you to freak out you can improve but you are going to have to really work at it and I mean really work at it. You will have to go on a LOW fat diet---(the reason Adkins made you sicker is because your liver cannot handle all that fat and protein- it can't digest it ) NO SUGAR at all----I can't promise you can reverse your possible diabetes but you can improve it if you lose weight---which you have to do because of you HIGH triglycerides--- as for your liver it is utmost that it gets better---milk thistle every day and well as a lot of vitamin C---these are the two most important things for the liver as well as only water and veggies. NO ALCOHOL lots of fresh veggies, lean protein, fish, pork, chicken and very little red meat---brown rice is the only carb you should have besides veggies---you have go on a strict diet to lose weight, get the fat out of your body, heal your liver and reduce your insulin problem--- Look at all the symtoms of the liver---you may have many other conditions that I suspect--- Your doctor may already want you on insulin and you may have to go on it--but you can still diet to get better. Your liver is the utmost organ that you have to be concerned about--- and anything that strains the liver will only make you extremely sick- --- I hope your doctor talked to you about all of this----The best doctor for all of these problems would be a homopath--- Juicing veggies is also a way to heal the liver--- sorry it took me a week to get back to you--this is just my opinion--- but you can read all the info I sent to you----tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 you wont die.. take a deep breath.. youll be ok.. we are all these little puzzles to be figured out and you will figure it out eventually... just start little and work your way up. liver problems can be genetic or from too much advil type medicine like ibuprofin. at its worse youll need a liver transplant but I havent heard of that for fatty livers. you'll be ok.. i belong to a liver support family kinda and I know its scarey but dont worry yourself cuz it only stresses you out more Re: keisha --my opinion on your tests Hello Tina and thanks so much for your replies, you have helped alot.. I really appreiacate all your replies..I am very worried about my liver . i am not sure why it is doing what it is doing.. I do not drink any alcolol or nothin., I do eat fatty foods, i cant lie about that girl.. lol- But i do exercise all the time.. I am trying to lose more weight.. I have done really good so far but it seem my body took a time out because lately i havent noticed any loss.. I am on pills for my sugar highness.. doc told me i have diabetes now.. oh joy oh joy... I love being on armour.. it helps me alot.. I just cant understand why I am so tired all the time.. It may be that I have my days and nights mixed up.. me and my hubby stay up until 5-6am and dont get out of bed until 2-3pm. sometimes 4pm,, I think that may be some of the problem.. but I am not sure.. Let me ask you this.. will I die because of my liver being like this>>? How do I find out how damaged my liver really is.? doctor has tested me for hep a,b,c and I am fine on those tests.. what other illnesses result to the liver,, do you know? and you said something about another thyrod issue but I just totally forgot what you said.. (adunale problems)) ?? I forgot.. anyways if you know what I am talking about. what exacty does tha mean? what do I need to do on that>?> is 90mg enough to take on armour.. I was wondering would it be okay to add some cytomel 25 mg to the 90 mg of armour. with the tsh result I sent to you what do you think would be a good idea or not..? I think the tsh was 4.32.. I cant remember at all girl.. well honey thanks so much for all your help and I hope things are okay for you.. Keisha tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote:Keisha you have a lot going on and it's going to have to take a lot of change to get you as well as can be expected. And most of this is on you. If you do everything right it could still take a year to a few years to get better and you still could have lingering problems. You are on the verge of diabetes or already have it--both your tests indicate this is a strong possibility. You have too much fat in your blood steam --could be liver is not digesting the fat and or you are eating way too much fat. You have liver problems which is why you are so ill-- You also have thyroid problems not as bad as you thought though---just t4 is low- Increasing your Armour to 90 mgs is a good start from 60 mgs. that you take now. I would listen to when she suggested you try and increase it. If you are getting sicker from taking more than you know you also have adrenal problems as well---- and that means you will have to take adrenal glandulars as well as supplements to heal the adrenals If you feel worse on Armour one of the synthetics may work better for you, since it looks like you are converting t4 into t3 well enough. (but I would suggest staying on armour) Your untreated thyroid disease can cause all of this as well as some other illnesses you may have because of the liver involvement. But I don't want you to freak out you can improve but you are going to have to really work at it and I mean really work at it. You will have to go on a LOW fat diet---(the reason Adkins made you sicker is because your liver cannot handle all that fat and protein- it can't digest it ) NO SUGAR at all----I can't promise you can reverse your possible diabetes but you can improve it if you lose weight---which you have to do because of you HIGH triglycerides--- as for your liver it is utmost that it gets better---milk thistle every day and well as a lot of vitamin C---these are the two most important things for the liver as well as only water and veggies. NO ALCOHOL lots of fresh veggies, lean protein, fish, pork, chicken and very little red meat---brown rice is the only carb you should have besides veggies---you have go on a strict diet to lose weight, get the fat out of your body, heal your liver and reduce your insulin problem--- Look at all the symtoms of the liver---you may have many other conditions that I suspect--- Your doctor may already want you on insulin and you may have to go on it--but you can still diet to get better. Your liver is the utmost organ that you have to be concerned about--- and anything that strains the liver will only make you extremely sick- --- I hope your doctor talked to you about all of this----The best doctor for all of these problems would be a homopath--- Juicing veggies is also a way to heal the liver--- sorry it took me a week to get back to you--this is just my opinion--- but you can read all the info I sent to you----tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 Girlie, thanks for your reply.. it made me feel better. I hope I figure somthing out soon.. I try to not worry but it sometimes cant be helped.. know what I mean.. But I will try more.. keisha.. Girlie <kckim@...> wrote:you wont die.. take a deep breath.. youll be ok.. we are all these little puzzles to be figured out and you will figure it out eventually... just start little and work your way up. liver problems can be genetic or from too much advil type medicine like ibuprofin. at its worse youll need a liver transplant but I havent heard of that for fatty livers. you'll be ok.. i belong to a liver support family kinda and I know its scarey but dont worry yourself cuz it only stresses you out more Re: keisha --my opinion on your tests Hello Tina and thanks so much for your replies, you have helped alot.. I really appreiacate all your replies..I am very worried about my liver . i am not sure why it is doing what it is doing.. I do not drink any alcolol or nothin., I do eat fatty foods, i cant lie about that girl.. lol- But i do exercise all the time.. I am trying to lose more weight.. I have done really good so far but it seem my body took a time out because lately i havent noticed any loss.. I am on pills for my sugar highness.. doc told me i have diabetes now.. oh joy oh joy... I love being on armour.. it helps me alot.. I just cant understand why I am so tired all the time.. It may be that I have my days and nights mixed up.. me and my hubby stay up until 5-6am and dont get out of bed until 2-3pm. sometimes 4pm,, I think that may be some of the problem.. but I am not sure.. Let me ask you this.. will I die because of my liver being like this>>? How do I find out how damaged my liver really is.? doctor has tested me for hep a,b,c and I am fine on those tests.. what other illnesses result to the liver,, do you know? and you said something about another thyrod issue but I just totally forgot what you said.. (adunale problems)) ?? I forgot.. anyways if you know what I am talking about. what exacty does tha mean? what do I need to do on that>?> is 90mg enough to take on armour.. I was wondering would it be okay to add some cytomel 25 mg to the 90 mg of armour. with the tsh result I sent to you what do you think would be a good idea or not..? I think the tsh was 4.32.. I cant remember at all girl.. well honey thanks so much for all your help and I hope things are okay for you.. Keisha tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote:Keisha you have a lot going on and it's going to have to take a lot of change to get you as well as can be expected. And most of this is on you. If you do everything right it could still take a year to a few years to get better and you still could have lingering problems. You are on the verge of diabetes or already have it--both your tests indicate this is a strong possibility. You have too much fat in your blood steam --could be liver is not digesting the fat and or you are eating way too much fat. You have liver problems which is why you are so ill-- You also have thyroid problems not as bad as you thought though---just t4 is low- Increasing your Armour to 90 mgs is a good start from 60 mgs. that you take now. I would listen to when she suggested you try and increase it. If you are getting sicker from taking more than you know you also have adrenal problems as well---- and that means you will have to take adrenal glandulars as well as supplements to heal the adrenals If you feel worse on Armour one of the synthetics may work better for you, since it looks like you are converting t4 into t3 well enough. (but I would suggest staying on armour) Your untreated thyroid disease can cause all of this as well as some other illnesses you may have because of the liver involvement. But I don't want you to freak out you can improve but you are going to have to really work at it and I mean really work at it. You will have to go on a LOW fat diet---(the reason Adkins made you sicker is because your liver cannot handle all that fat and protein- it can't digest it ) NO SUGAR at all----I can't promise you can reverse your possible diabetes but you can improve it if you lose weight---which you have to do because of you HIGH triglycerides--- as for your liver it is utmost that it gets better---milk thistle every day and well as a lot of vitamin C---these are the two most important things for the liver as well as only water and veggies. NO ALCOHOL lots of fresh veggies, lean protein, fish, pork, chicken and very little red meat---brown rice is the only carb you should have besides veggies---you have go on a strict diet to lose weight, get the fat out of your body, heal your liver and reduce your insulin problem--- Look at all the symtoms of the liver---you may have many other conditions that I suspect--- Your doctor may already want you on insulin and you may have to go on it--but you can still diet to get better. Your liver is the utmost organ that you have to be concerned about--- and anything that strains the liver will only make you extremely sick- --- I hope your doctor talked to you about all of this----The best doctor for all of these problems would be a homopath--- Juicing veggies is also a way to heal the liver--- sorry it took me a week to get back to you--this is just my opinion--- but you can read all the info I sent to you----tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 hi keisha, untreated diabetes can make you VERY tired! hopefully now that you're getting some medicine, you will feel better. did your doctor tell you anything at all about your liver, Keisha? I'm so sorry you're going through all of this. you're doing a great job and getting your weight down and exercising all the time! It is helping you!!! ((hugs))) sheila Keisha <californiakh@...> wrote: Hello Tina and thanks so much for your replies, you have helped alot.. I really appreiacate all your replies..I am very worried about my liver . i am not sure why it is doing what it is doing.. I do not drink any alcolol or nothin., I do eat fatty foods, i cant lie about that girl.. lol- But i do exercise all the time.. I am trying to lose more weight.. I have done really good so far but it seem my body took a time out because lately i havent noticed any loss.. I am on pills for my sugar highness.. doc told me i have diabetes now.. oh joy oh joy... I love being on armour.. it helps me alot.. I just cant understand why I am so tired all the time.. It may be that I have my days and nights mixed up.. me and my hubby stay up until 5-6am and dont get out of bed until 2-3pm. sometimes 4pm,, I think that may be some of the problem.. but I am not sure.. Let me ask you this.. will I die because of my liver being like this>>? How do I find out how damaged my liver really is.? doctor has tested me for hep a,b,c and I am fine on those tests.. what other illnesses result to the liver,, do you know? and you said something about another thyrod issue but I just totally forgot what you said.. (adunale problems)) ?? I forgot.. anyways if you know what I am talking about. what exacty does tha mean? what do I need to do on that>?> is 90mg enough to take on armour.. I was wondering would it be okay to add some cytomel 25 mg to the 90 mg of armour. with the tsh result I sent to you what do you think would be a good idea or not..? I think the tsh was 4.32.. I cant remember at all girl.. well honey thanks so much for all your help and I hope things are okay for you.. Keisha tina83862 wrote:Keisha you have a lot going on and it's going to have to take a lot of change to get you as well as can be expected. And most of this is on you. If you do everything right it could still take a year to a few years to get better and you still could have lingering problems. You are on the verge of diabetes or already have it--both your tests indicate this is a strong possibility. You have too much fat in your blood steam --could be liver is not digesting the fat and or you are eating way too much fat. You have liver problems which is why you are so ill-- You also have thyroid problems not as bad as you thought though---just t4 is low- Increasing your Armour to 90 mgs is a good start from 60 mgs. that you take now. I would listen to when she suggested you try and increase it. If you are getting sicker from taking more than you know you also have adrenal problems as well---- and that means you will have to take adrenal glandulars as well as supplements to heal the adrenals If you feel worse on Armour one of the synthetics may work better for you, since it looks like you are converting t4 into t3 well enough. (but I would suggest staying on armour) Your untreated thyroid disease can cause all of this as well as some other illnesses you may have because of the liver involvement. But I don't want you to freak out you can improve but you are going to have to really work at it and I mean really work at it. You will have to go on a LOW fat diet---(the reason Adkins made you sicker is because your liver cannot handle all that fat and protein- it can't digest it ) NO SUGAR at all----I can't promise you can reverse your possible diabetes but you can improve it if you lose weight---which you have to do because of you HIGH triglycerides--- as for your liver it is utmost that it gets better---milk thistle every day and well as a lot of vitamin C---these are the two most important things for the liver as well as only water and veggies. NO ALCOHOL lots of fresh veggies, lean protein, fish, pork, chicken and very little red meat---brown rice is the only carb you should have besides veggies---you have go on a strict diet to lose weight, get the fat out of your body, heal your liver and reduce your insulin problem--- Look at all the symtoms of the liver---you may have many other conditions that I suspect--- Your doctor may already want you on insulin and you may have to go on it--but you can still diet to get better. Your liver is the utmost organ that you have to be concerned about--- and anything that strains the liver will only make you extremely sick- --- I hope your doctor talked to you about all of this----The best doctor for all of these problems would be a homopath--- Juicing veggies is also a way to heal the liver--- sorry it took me a week to get back to you--this is just my opinion--- but you can read all the info I sent to you----tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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