Re: my weight journal

April 19, 2004

Have you ever been tested for Celiac Disease (Gluten intolerance)? I have

both CD and hypo. I've lost 6 pounds in 4 days, stomach problems are gone and I

feel much better.

April 19, 2004

Kim my son just lost 20 pounds---what he did was --chicken, some

pork, fish, veggies, and lots of salads with only olive oil and

balsamic vinegar. And only water or diet soda. He wanted to lose

weight for Prom (what is this with my kids?) anyway he went from 224

now close to 200 (he is almost 6' tall though). He wanted to take off

his middle weight--he also either ran every day or went to the gym

and he lifts weights (he did not want to lose muscle)---he is very

happy now to feel better and look better. This took one month but he

is a boy and they tend to take it off faster than girls and he had

that much he could easily lose.

He will add in one piece of fruit now and only adkins bread (since he

does like sandwitches once in a while. But no sugar, no rice or pasta.

For dinner we had veggies, salad and chicken, pork or fish (once in

awhile red meat)--totally took out any kind of rice, pasta, potatoes,

and beans---and no sugar what so ever.

I made home made salsa and he adds that to salads ( onions, garlic,

pepper, tomatos, hot sause in a blender) tina

> i dunno thought maybe someone might have an idea of what I should

do about my weight.. and please god dont say atkins been there done

that with ZERO carbs and ZERO success and yes I stay with things

longer than a month

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> i wouldnt been even steven but last night I gained 2 pounds .. ive

been only eating prob 1000 cals a day all week so im a little pissed

at my body. I can't even handle food anymore. I started taking

prevacid but its not helping though my bladder feels kinda good on it

so I think Ill get him to prescribe it as I am just on samples right

now.

> Just makes me so damned mad. I cant eat anything like a meal

without being in intense brain numbing spasms followed by bathroom

time. NOTHING stays in my body.. how the HECK is it staying fat??? I

had a 10 piece chicken nugget thing and it was too much for my body

and it immediately left in a most painful way (yes we had mcdonalds

cuz sunday is my boy's day off dieting for him which he lost 4 pounds

this week).

>

> I have asked every doctor about the weight thing but they ignore

me. Most I got was a nurse telling me eat an egg when you're hungry.

I know people lsoe ont he Atkins but its just calorie restriction

also. I don't have issues with pigging out (ok sometimes I do like

some lady pissed me off and I had cheesecake but not much else that

day so even then I was eating less than a normal dieter). My boy is

on the atkins but I swear he only eats 200 calories a day. And with

the way a meal immediately leaves my body I am probably getting zero

nutrition and even fewer calories per day.

>

> Its like a viscious circle. I get so sick I can't eat for a few

weeks at ALL and force down a saltine or something. First week I lose

7 pounds ( I ALWAYS lose 7 pounds first week of any diet so I know I

have 7 pounds of water with me always).. then week two nothing.. week

three i can finally eat or I am so damned hungry i try to get in more

like 800 cals a day and BAM I gain. I know eat more. that doesn't

really work either. There is soemthing very very wrong with my

metabolism that or I have a 100 pound tumor in my tummy (I saw that

on maury where they thought this little girl was fat and she ended up

having a 70 pound tumor in her gut).

>

> I know hypothyroidism and PCOS people have the worst times losing

weight and I do think I ahve both nad both say eat more protien and i

even stopped being a vegetarian for 12 years to eat protien but it

aint helping.

>

> I am frustrated. I still have this big event coming up at the end

of summer but no way in heck am I going at this weight and theres no

game plan except complete starvation.. which i also cant do because

of this stomach thing i have and i have to have a tiny bite every few

minutes otherwise I get super unbelievably nauseas. I really havent a

clue as to what game plan I should be working on and I know i should

just let it go and get fat as long as I stay healthy but thats so

depressing

>

> over and out

> -me

>

April 19, 2004

i dont know dr's never tell me what they test for... what kind fo dr tests

for celiac? or can i test it with an at home test.. im so nasueas and all i

ahd was a half cup of noodles.. life is so miserable

Re: my weight journal

> Have you ever been tested for Celiac Disease (Gluten intolerance)? I have

> both CD and hypo. I've lost 6 pounds in 4 days, stomach problems are gone

and I

> feel much better.

>

April 19, 2004

You wrote:

> i dunno thought maybe someone might have an idea of what I should

do about my weight.. and please god dont say atkins been there done

that with ZERO carbs and ZERO success and yes I stay with things

longer than a month

> > -----------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Kim,

Believe me, I have been there and it is so frustrating. Two

recommendations:

1. If you aren't absorbing your food try digestive enzymes. These

have worked wonders for me, big, big difference.

2. Low carb helps, no carb doesn't work for me because I have no

endurance to exercise. Besides that all the protein started building

more muscle than I care to keep. Here's my latest recipe for success

and it IS working when nothing else has. And it is different than

counting calories, I don't know why.

For breakfast and lunch:

Smoothey with the following in it.

6 ounces of grapefruit juice, preferably the kind with no added

sugar. Can be sweetened with other juices.

2 tablespoons of sugar free orange yogurt for flavor

2 tablespoons of protein powder, preferably whey

1 level teaspoon of sugar free Metamusil

1 small squirt of whip cream, not cool whip. Helps keep consistentcy

mixed.

Snack: 4 sicilian olives, apple, or carrot sticks

Dinner: Reasonable mix of chicken or fish with a green vegetable or

cauliflower. Limit salads, have a vegetable instead. Don't know

why but regular salad consumption will make you stall. Another meal

replacement that is ideal: scrambled eggs with broccoli or sushi.

Again, this has been working better than slim-fast, counting calories

or carbs. The first two days only you will hit the way do to the

sudden change. But then your body adjusts and it is the perfect

fuel. I am very curious to hear from anyone else who tries this

program and sticks with it.

Good luck!

April 19, 2004

Any doc can check. my mom went 5 years of tests- cancer, psych, etc. a

nutritionist figured it out. turns out my whole - well most of it has celiac

all

coming out in different ways- my mom- really bad diarehha, my brother- skin,

me- my thyroid. check out www.celiac.com

cindy

April 19, 2004

I know this sounds silly, but have you tried omitting all gluten

foods? This means anything made with wheat and white flour. No

bread, pasta or cereal unless it's clearly marked gluten or wheat

free.

If you must have bland carbs try rice or potatoes. See how you

feel. You should feel better rather quickly, even a few days should

show some improvement.

> i dont know dr's never tell me what they test for... what kind fo

dr tests

> for celiac? or can i test it with an at home test.. im so nasueas

and all i

> ahd was a half cup of noodles.. life is so miserable

>

> Re: my weight journal

>

> > Have you ever been tested for Celiac Disease (Gluten

intolerance)? I have

> > both CD and hypo. I've lost 6 pounds in 4 days, stomach problems

are gone

> and I

> > feel much better.

> >

April 19, 2004

Kim,

I ate fried scallops yesterday and got so sick and I don't have any problems

like you described, so maybe 10 nuggets were too much for anyone. Just a

thought

----Original Message Follows----

From: " Kim " <kckim@...>

Reply-hypothyroidism

Subject: my weight journal

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:34:02 -0700

i dunno thought maybe someone might have an idea of what I should do about

my weight.. and please god dont say atkins been there done that with ZERO

carbs and ZERO success and yes I stay with things longer than a month

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April 19, 2004

do something about it before you croak. Get Armour, get cortef, at least

you will be doing something. The only reason I am well is b/c I treated

myself until I could find someone to help me, and I am the best I have found

Gracia

> i dont know dr's never tell me what they test for... what kind fo dr tests

> for celiac? or can i test it with an at home test.. im so nasueas and all

i

> ahd was a half cup of noodles.. life is so miserable

>

> Re: my weight journal

>

> > Have you ever been tested for Celiac Disease (Gluten intolerance)? I

have

> > both CD and hypo. I've lost 6 pounds in 4 days, stomach problems are

gone

> and I

> > feel much better.

> >

April 19, 2004

First of all, are you on thyroid meds? Do you know your thyroid lab values? If

not, you might want to check with your doctor and get a copy of your most recent

labs. People can help you figure out what the numbers mean. If you have not

had labs for a long time, and you're on thyroid medicine, then you might want to

get an appointment with your doctor and get a new lab test...maybe your medicine

isn't working anymore or your values have changed and are contributing to

symptoms.

Second, if you are getting sick (nauseated) a lot, that is a symptom of adrenal

fatigue. It can impact your thyroid even if you are on the right thyroid

medicine and dosage. You could get your adrenals checked. There is a lot of

advice on this group about adrenals.

Third, you should have a healthy diet that downplays carbs (not zero carbs) and

emphasizes healthy meats, vegetables, and whole grain sources of fiber. You

should be drinking lots of water. Fiber can help with diahhrea. Get lots of

protein, moderate fat, and carbs mostly from vegetables. You should not be

eating at starvation levels of 1000 calories a day or less. Look up a Basal

Metabolic Rate calculator on the web (any search will get you dozens of links to

them) and figure out how much you need to be eating for your actual weight. All

you do with starvation diets is slow down your metabolism. Try using vanilla

flavored protein shakes if you can't hold any food. Vanilla is a stomach

soother. Also try ginger tea or sugarfree ginger ale for the nausea. Keep

track of calories and food groups eaten by writing them down. This is not

because you want to make sure you don't eat too much, but to make sure you are

eating everything you should.

Kim <kckim@...> wrote:

i dunno thought maybe someone might have an idea of what I should do about my

weight.. and please god dont say atkins been there done that with ZERO carbs

and ZERO success and yes I stay with things longer than a month

--------------------------------------------------------------------

i wouldnt been even steven but last night I gained 2 pounds .. ive been only

eating prob 1000 cals a day all week so im a little pissed at my body. I can't

even handle food anymore. I started taking prevacid but its not helping though

my bladder feels kinda good on it so I think Ill get him to prescribe it as I am

just on samples right now.

Just makes me so damned mad. I cant eat anything like a meal without being in

intense brain numbing spasms followed by bathroom time. NOTHING stays in my

body.. how the HECK is it staying fat??? I had a 10 piece chicken nugget thing

and it was too much for my body and it immediately left in a most painful way

(yes we had mcdonalds cuz sunday is my boy's day off dieting for him which he

lost 4 pounds this week).

I have asked every doctor about the weight thing but they ignore me. Most I got

was a nurse telling me eat an egg when you're hungry. I know people lsoe ont he

Atkins but its just calorie restriction also. I don't have issues with pigging

out (ok sometimes I do like some lady pissed me off and I had cheesecake but not

much else that day so even then I was eating less than a normal dieter). My boy

is on the atkins but I swear he only eats 200 calories a day. And with the way a

meal immediately leaves my body I am probably getting zero nutrition and even

fewer calories per day.

Its like a viscious circle. I get so sick I can't eat for a few weeks at ALL and

force down a saltine or something. First week I lose 7 pounds ( I ALWAYS lose 7

pounds first week of any diet so I know I have 7 pounds of water with me

always).. then week two nothing.. week three i can finally eat or I am so damned

hungry i try to get in more like 800 cals a day and BAM I gain. I know eat more.

that doesn't really work either. There is soemthing very very wrong with my

metabolism that or I have a 100 pound tumor in my tummy (I saw that on maury

where they thought this little girl was fat and she ended up having a 70 pound

tumor in her gut).

I know hypothyroidism and PCOS people have the worst times losing weight and I

do think I ahve both nad both say eat more protien and i even stopped being a

vegetarian for 12 years to eat protien but it aint helping.

I am frustrated. I still have this big event coming up at the end of summer but

no way in heck am I going at this weight and theres no game plan except complete

starvation.. which i also cant do because of this stomach thing i have and i

have to have a tiny bite every few minutes otherwise I get super unbelievably

nauseas. I really havent a clue as to what game plan I should be working on and

I know i should just let it go and get fat as long as I stay healthy but thats

so depressing

over and out

-me

April 19, 2004

no it can be toast anything.

my weight journal

> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:34:02 -0700

>

> i dunno thought maybe someone might have an idea of what I should do about

> my weight.. and please god dont say atkins been there done that with ZERO

> carbs and ZERO success and yes I stay with things longer than a month

>

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