Re: Questions about Hypothyroidism

[Guest guest]

It depends on what type of Hypothyroidism you have. If you have Hashi's

disease, there is no cure for it. What type were you diagnosed with?

LaCretia

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>Hi all,

>

>Here's a strange thing - I have been living in a house with a large

>group of people (sort of a commune thing) and 3 of us have been

>diagnosed as having Hypothyroidism around the same time. I

>understand that it is not contagious but isn't that rather odd?

>

>Anyhow, I was just wondering if Hypothyroidism is something that has

>to be cured with drugs or can it go away on its own if you live the

>healthy lifestyle? I'm just wondering because my doctor seems to not

>be in a hurry over anything...

>

>S

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[Guest guest]

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>

>

> Hi all,

>

> Here's a strange thing - I have been living in a house with a large

> group of people (sort of a commune thing) and 3 of us have been

> diagnosed as having Hypothyroidism around the same time. I

> understand that it is not contagious but isn't that rather odd?

To me, it indicates just how common this disease is!

>

> Anyhow, I was just wondering if Hypothyroidism is something that

has

> to be cured with drugs or can it go away on its own if you live the

> healthy lifestyle? I'm just wondering because my doctor seems to

not

> be in a hurry over anything...

Your doctor is not the one living with this, so he probably doesn't

understand how much one's life can be impacted by it. If he was

having significant symptoms of hypoT himself, I'm quite sure he would

be in a big hurry to correct the problem. I know that sounds cynical,

but I know hypoT is often underdiagnosed and undertreated. If the

problem is autoimmune thyroiditis, it will not correct itself.

Gail

>

> S

[Guest guest]

--- It will not correct on its own, very seldom it does, if ever,

unless you want to spend your life being just a percentage of your

potential, you need to bring your thyroid levels to normal as soon

as posible. Remember, this is YOUR body, not your doctors', many

doctors seem to think that hypothyroidism is something " you can

learn to live with " ....well, wonder , if your doctor was

hypothyroid, what do you think he would do himself? bring the

levels to normal? or just let it run it's course?

I am starting to think that some doctors, being human after all,

start enjoying , in a perverse way, situations in which they see a

patient suffering from an ailment(like hypothyroidism) and just

enjoy being iddle, it sound crazy, some would even be thinking I am

the pervert, but, if you think about it, other than ignorance,

which can not be the case of a endocrinologist, the other reason an

endo would tell a hypo sufferer he is fine, or undertreat him,

knowing the consecuences, is that element of human nature, some

unhappy, or twisted people, in this case, doctors, who, (believe me,

I though about the reasons for a long time, I can not find them)

neglect patients, with no excuse, it must be the need in them

to " see " real sick, or real examples of an ailment,for them to ,

probably, reinforce their own feelings of superiority, or to

enhamce their own feelings of being healthy, the patients being that

other side, the unhealthy, the unperfect. Sounds crazy, but , how

else to express such lack of professionalism and lack of action, to

put another human being in a position of missery , of imperfect

function of the body,with total knowledge of the situation?

There should be a yearly or biyearly exam on the performance of

doctors, a psycological evaluation, because, unfit doctors in the

profession are as dangerous as unfit antisocial persons sporting a

black belt in karate degree, a degree in self defense is considered

a weapon, any person abusing this ability and beating up on another

fellow would be charged with assault w/ deadly weapon.

Just a comment.

In hypothyroidism , " Simon Hart " <shart@a...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> Here's a strange thing - I have been living in a house with a

large

> group of people (sort of a commune thing) and 3 of us have been

> diagnosed as having Hypothyroidism around the same time. I

> understand that it is not contagious but isn't that rather odd?

>

> Anyhow, I was just wondering if Hypothyroidism is something that

has

> to be cured with drugs or can it go away on its own if you live

the

> healthy lifestyle? I'm just wondering because my doctor seems to

not

> be in a hurry over anything...

>

> S

[Guest guest]

Hi

Oh I love that! In fact it's too bad all the patients can't rate a doctor

directly, like a website set up just for that purpose, for doctors to be

evaluated on performance and those who rate poorly have to do something about

it, get more education, or something! Love that idea!

Tina

<jaimecidpedro@...> wrote:

--- It will not correct on its own, very seldom it does, if ever,

unless you want to spend your life being just a percentage of your

potential, you need to bring your thyroid levels to normal as soon

as posible. Remember, this is YOUR body, not your doctors', many

doctors seem to think that hypothyroidism is something " you can

learn to live with " ....well, wonder , if your doctor was

hypothyroid, what do you think he would do himself? bring the

levels to normal? or just let it run it's course?

I am starting to think that some doctors, being human after all,

start enjoying , in a perverse way, situations in which they see a

patient suffering from an ailment(like hypothyroidism) and just

enjoy being iddle, it sound crazy, some would even be thinking I am

the pervert, but, if you think about it, other than ignorance,

which can not be the case of a endocrinologist, the other reason an

endo would tell a hypo sufferer he is fine, or undertreat him,

knowing the consecuences, is that element of human nature, some

unhappy, or twisted people, in this case, doctors, who, (believe me,

I though about the reasons for a long time, I can not find them)

neglect patients, with no excuse, it must be the need in them

to " see " real sick, or real examples of an ailment,for them to ,

probably, reinforce their own feelings of superiority, or to

enhamce their own feelings of being healthy, the patients being that

other side, the unhealthy, the unperfect. Sounds crazy, but , how

else to express such lack of professionalism and lack of action, to

put another human being in a position of missery , of imperfect

function of the body,with total knowledge of the situation?

There should be a yearly or biyearly exam on the performance of

doctors, a psycological evaluation, because, unfit doctors in the

profession are as dangerous as unfit antisocial persons sporting a

black belt in karate degree, a degree in self defense is considered

a weapon, any person abusing this ability and beating up on another

fellow would be charged with assault w/ deadly weapon.

Just a comment.

In hypothyroidism , " Simon Hart " <shart@a...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> Here's a strange thing - I have been living in a house with a

large

> group of people (sort of a commune thing) and 3 of us have been

> diagnosed as having Hypothyroidism around the same time. I

> understand that it is not contagious but isn't that rather odd?

>

> Anyhow, I was just wondering if Hypothyroidism is something that

has

> to be cured with drugs or can it go away on its own if you live

the

> healthy lifestyle? I'm just wondering because my doctor seems to

not

> be in a hurry over anything...

>

> S

[Guest guest]

might be the flouridated/chlorinated water? Good answer from Gail!

Gracia

>

>

> :

> >

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > Here's a strange thing - I have been living in a house with a large

> > group of people (sort of a commune thing) and 3 of us have been

> > diagnosed as having Hypothyroidism around the same time. I

> > understand that it is not contagious but isn't that rather odd?

>

> To me, it indicates just how common this disease is!

> >

> > Anyhow, I was just wondering if Hypothyroidism is something that

> has

> > to be cured with drugs or can it go away on its own if you live the

> > healthy lifestyle? I'm just wondering because my doctor seems to

> not

> > be in a hurry over anything...

>

> Your doctor is not the one living with this, so he probably doesn't

> understand how much one's life can be impacted by it. If he was

> having significant symptoms of hypoT himself, I'm quite sure he would

> be in a big hurry to correct the problem. I know that sounds cynical,

> but I know hypoT is often underdiagnosed and undertreated. If the

> problem is autoimmune thyroiditis, it will not correct itself.

> Gail

> >

> > S

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

!!!!

Someone on another list says that most docs dislike sick people, and think

we are somehow weak. A doc once said to me that he believed in survival of

the fittest, when I asked him if he would give me a B-12 shot! Of course

he gave it to me b/c he also liked making $$$.

Gracia

>

>

> --- It will not correct on its own, very seldom it does, if ever,

> unless you want to spend your life being just a percentage of your

> potential, you need to bring your thyroid levels to normal as soon

> as posible. Remember, this is YOUR body, not your doctors', many

> doctors seem to think that hypothyroidism is something " you can

> learn to live with " ....well, wonder , if your doctor was

> hypothyroid, what do you think he would do himself? bring the

> levels to normal? or just let it run it's course?

> I am starting to think that some doctors, being human after all,

> start enjoying , in a perverse way, situations in which they see a

> patient suffering from an ailment(like hypothyroidism) and just

> enjoy being iddle, it sound crazy, some would even be thinking I am

> the pervert, but, if you think about it, other than ignorance,

> which can not be the case of a endocrinologist, the other reason an

> endo would tell a hypo sufferer he is fine, or undertreat him,

> knowing the consecuences, is that element of human nature, some

> unhappy, or twisted people, in this case, doctors, who, (believe me,

> I though about the reasons for a long time, I can not find them)

> neglect patients, with no excuse, it must be the need in them

> to " see " real sick, or real examples of an ailment,for them to ,

> probably, reinforce their own feelings of superiority, or to

> enhamce their own feelings of being healthy, the patients being that

> other side, the unhealthy, the unperfect. Sounds crazy, but , how

> else to express such lack of professionalism and lack of action, to

> put another human being in a position of missery , of imperfect

> function of the body,with total knowledge of the situation?

> There should be a yearly or biyearly exam on the performance of

> doctors, a psycological evaluation, because, unfit doctors in the

> profession are as dangerous as unfit antisocial persons sporting a

> black belt in karate degree, a degree in self defense is considered

> a weapon, any person abusing this ability and beating up on another

> fellow would be charged with assault w/ deadly weapon.

> Just a comment.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think this is true. My opinion is that doctors are not gods

and cannot cure all conditions that plague people. But that is that

people want and expect from doctors. It must be very wearing to be a

doctor, knowing they can't always come up to patients' expectations

of what can be done. They are just people, just like the rest of us.

Gail

- In hypothyroidism , " Gracia " <circe@g...> wrote:

>

> !!!!

> Someone on another list says that most docs dislike sick people,

and think

> we are somehow weak. A doc once said to me that he believed in

survival of

> the fittest, when I asked him if he would give me a B-12 shot! Of

course

> he gave it to me b/c he also liked making $$$.

> Gracia

>

> >

> >

> > --- It will not correct on its own, very seldom it does, if ever,

> > unless you want to spend your life being just a percentage of

your

> > potential, you need to bring your thyroid levels to normal as

soon

> > as posible. Remember, this is YOUR body, not your doctors', many

> > doctors seem to think that hypothyroidism is something " you can

> > learn to live with " ....well, wonder , if your doctor was

> > hypothyroid, what do you think he would do himself? bring the

> > levels to normal? or just let it run it's course?

> > I am starting to think that some doctors, being human after all,

> > start enjoying , in a perverse way, situations in which they see a

> > patient suffering from an ailment(like hypothyroidism) and just

> > enjoy being iddle, it sound crazy, some would even be thinking I

am

> > the pervert, but, if you think about it, other than ignorance,

> > which can not be the case of a endocrinologist, the other reason

an

> > endo would tell a hypo sufferer he is fine, or undertreat him,

> > knowing the consecuences, is that element of human nature, some

> > unhappy, or twisted people, in this case, doctors, who, (believe

me,

> > I though about the reasons for a long time, I can not find them)

> > neglect patients, with no excuse, it must be the need in them

> > to " see " real sick, or real examples of an ailment,for them to ,

> > probably, reinforce their own feelings of superiority, or to

> > enhamce their own feelings of being healthy, the patients being

that

> > other side, the unhealthy, the unperfect. Sounds crazy, but , how

> > else to express such lack of professionalism and lack of action,

to

> > put another human being in a position of missery , of imperfect

> > function of the body,with total knowledge of the situation?

> > There should be a yearly or biyearly exam on the performance

of

> > doctors, a psycological evaluation, because, unfit doctors in the

> > profession are as dangerous as unfit antisocial persons sporting

a

> > black belt in karate degree, a degree in self defense is

considered

> > a weapon, any person abusing this ability and beating up on

another

> > fellow would be charged with assault w/ deadly weapon.

> > Just a comment.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

--- Hy. I can understand not all doctors are bad, but there is a

number of them that yes, they are bad. I can talk from experience,

I am a interpreter, court and medical interpreter, which puts me in

situations in which I am a witness to the interaction between a

patient and a doctor. My clients do not speak English, so my job is

to work as a nexus between both parties, to asure comunication. Many

times a patient has concerns,symptoms, questions, and the bad

doctors do not even want to listen, they get frustrated when the

patient wants to do what he came to do in the first place, know

about the condition, talk about his symptoms, etc, but this doctors

do not want to hear about it, they are rude, and seem to know

everything without getting and actively rejecting any feedback from

the patient. If an endocrinologist just checks his charts, and

refuses to listen to the symptoms the patient has or is

experiencing, or what stopped happening as symptoms in the past

few days, etc, how is a doctor going to give a quality medical

treatment? There has grown an attitude in this country with the

doctors " omnipotency " over all treatment, you go to a doctor, the

doctor does not care about you, just what you represent to him, a

number, a account number, his concern is how much money he can get

out of the opportunity you represent. Quality treating doctors, yes

there are many, but there is a lot more of them who just treat

people with disdain, I've seen doctors that appear to hate their

job, treat patients and staff in a rude way, seems that the only

reason they " tolerate " all these people is the income they get out

of it. In the same way we demand goverment officials, secretaries,

professionals in general,police officers, any body, even janitors,

demand social skills so they treat us people with respect, we should

demand doctors the same. All doctors should go through yearly public

relations classes, because a doctor is in contact with the public,

and a unhappy and frustrated doctor is in a position to cause/create

great harm.

Hope the good doctors keep it up, and the bad ones, should be

forced to comply with social skills and psicological evaluations or

else, loose their licence.

.

))))))))))))))))))))))))

In hypothyroidism , " & Gail on "

<harrison@o...> wrote:

>

> I don't think this is true. My opinion is that doctors are not

gods

> and cannot cure all conditions that plague people. But that is

that

> people want and expect from doctors. It must be very wearing to be

a

> doctor, knowing they can't always come up to patients'

expectations

> of what can be done. They are just people, just like the rest of

us.

> Gail

>

> - In hypothyroidism , " Gracia " <circe@g...>

wrote:

> >

> > !!!!

> > Someone on another list says that most docs dislike sick people,

> and think

> > we are somehow weak. A doc once said to me that he believed in

> survival of

> > the fittest, when I asked him if he would give me a B-12 shot!

Of

> course

> > he gave it to me b/c he also liked making $$$.

> > Gracia

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- It will not correct on its own, very seldom it does, if

ever,

> > > unless you want to spend your life being just a percentage of

> your

> > > potential, you need to bring your thyroid levels to normal

as

> soon

> > > as posible. Remember, this is YOUR body, not your doctors',

many

> > > doctors seem to think that hypothyroidism is something " you

can

> > > learn to live with " ....well, wonder , if your doctor was

> > > hypothyroid, what do you think he would do himself? bring the

> > > levels to normal? or just let it run it's course?

> > > I am starting to think that some doctors, being human after

all,

> > > start enjoying , in a perverse way, situations in which they

see a

> > > patient suffering from an ailment(like hypothyroidism) and

just

> > > enjoy being iddle, it sound crazy, some would even be thinking

I

> am

> > > the pervert, but, if you think about it, other than ignorance,

> > > which can not be the case of a endocrinologist, the other

reason

> an

> > > endo would tell a hypo sufferer he is fine, or undertreat him,

> > > knowing the consecuences, is that element of human nature, some

> > > unhappy, or twisted people, in this case, doctors, who,

(believe

> me,

> > > I though about the reasons for a long time, I can not find

them)

> > > neglect patients, with no excuse, it must be the need in them

> > > to " see " real sick, or real examples of an ailment,for them

to ,

> > > probably, reinforce their own feelings of superiority, or to

> > > enhamce their own feelings of being healthy, the patients

being

> that

> > > other side, the unhealthy, the unperfect. Sounds crazy, but ,

how

> > > else to express such lack of professionalism and lack of

action,

> to

> > > put another human being in a position of missery , of

imperfect

> > > function of the body,with total knowledge of the situation?

> > > There should be a yearly or biyearly exam on the

performance

> of

> > > doctors, a psycological evaluation, because, unfit doctors in

the

> > > profession are as dangerous as unfit antisocial persons

sporting

> a

> > > black belt in karate degree, a degree in self defense is

> considered

> > > a weapon, any person abusing this ability and beating up on

> another

> > > fellow would be charged with assault w/ deadly weapon.

> > > Just a comment.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

hypobod@...

Hi,

new to the group and recently diagnosed. I am with on this about

uncaring doctors and endocrinologists. In response to wanting answers about

10 years of hair loss on the head, I was told 'style your hair differently

or wear a wig (had done both until there was less hair to style and no

volume of hair upon which to rest a wig) The other one was, 'take iron

tablets, not even take iron tablets at this therapeutic level and come back

and see me'. To weight gain over ten years and breathlessness, I got 'take

in fewer calories and get exercise'. To pubic and underarm hair and eyebrow

loss, I got, 'your perimenopausal and too fat and greedy and wont exercise!

is right, if a doctor was experiencing these symptoms or a family

member he would leave no stone unturned to find out what it was and get

treated. If T3 is something we absolutely must have, all of us, how dare

doctors say we can put up with less coursing through our veins than they

have if they happen to be fit and healthy? Endo's suck as far as I am

concerned. I was turned down for a second opinion by one, at the height of

some terrible physical signs i.e. yellow skin, swollen tongue, puffy face,

fluid in the upper chest putting strain on a dangerously low heartbeat and

slow pulse of 40 beats a minute, deafness in one year and disturbances to my

optic nerves after collapsing twice in two months. No doctor knows more than

me about my body in a ten minute consultation.

Re: Questions about Hypothyroidism

>

>

> --- Hy. I can understand not all doctors are bad, but there is a

> number of them that yes, they are bad. I can talk from experience,

> I am a interpreter, court and medical interpreter, which puts me in

> situations in which I am a witness to the interaction between a

> patient and a doctor. My clients do not speak English, so my job is

> to work as a nexus between both parties, to asure comunication. Many

> times a patient has concerns,symptoms, questions, and the bad

> doctors do not even want to listen, they get frustrated when the

> patient wants to do what he came to do in the first place, know

> about the condition, talk about his symptoms, etc, but this doctors

> do not want to hear about it, they are rude, and seem to know

> everything without getting and actively rejecting any feedback from

> the patient. If an endocrinologist just checks his charts, and

> refuses to listen to the symptoms the patient has or is

> experiencing, or what stopped happening as symptoms in the past

> few days, etc, how is a doctor going to give a quality medical

> treatment? There has grown an attitude in this country with the

> doctors " omnipotency " over all treatment, you go to a doctor, the

> doctor does not care about you, just what you represent to him, a

> number, a account number, his concern is how much money he can get

> out of the opportunity you represent. Quality treating doctors, yes

> there are many, but there is a lot more of them who just treat

> people with disdain, I've seen doctors that appear to hate their

> job, treat patients and staff in a rude way, seems that the only

> reason they " tolerate " all these people is the income they get out

> of it. In the same way we demand goverment officials, secretaries,

> professionals in general,police officers, any body, even janitors,

> demand social skills so they treat us people with respect, we should

> demand doctors the same. All doctors should go through yearly public

> relations classes, because a doctor is in contact with the public,

> and a unhappy and frustrated doctor is in a position to cause/create

> great harm.

>

> Hope the good doctors keep it up, and the bad ones, should be

> forced to comply with social skills and psicological evaluations or

> else, loose their licence.

> .

>

> ))))))))))))))))))))))))

> In hypothyroidism , " & Gail on "

> <harrison@o...> wrote:

> >

> > I don't think this is true. My opinion is that doctors are not

> gods

> > and cannot cure all conditions that plague people. But that is

> that

> > people want and expect from doctors. It must be very wearing to be

> a

> > doctor, knowing they can't always come up to patients'

> expectations

> > of what can be done. They are just people, just like the rest of

> us.

> > Gail

> >

> > - In hypothyroidism , " Gracia " <circe@g...>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > !!!!

> > > Someone on another list says that most docs dislike sick people,

> > and think

> > > we are somehow weak. A doc once said to me that he believed in

> > survival of

> > > the fittest, when I asked him if he would give me a B-12 shot!

> Of

> > course

> > > he gave it to me b/c he also liked making $$$.

> > > Gracia

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- It will not correct on its own, very seldom it does, if

> ever,

> > > > unless you want to spend your life being just a percentage of

> > your

> > > > potential, you need to bring your thyroid levels to normal

> as

> > soon

> > > > as posible. Remember, this is YOUR body, not your doctors',

> many

> > > > doctors seem to think that hypothyroidism is something " you

> can

> > > > learn to live with " ....well, wonder , if your doctor was

> > > > hypothyroid, what do you think he would do himself? bring the

> > > > levels to normal? or just let it run it's course?

> > > > I am starting to think that some doctors, being human after

> all,

> > > > start enjoying , in a perverse way, situations in which they

> see a

> > > > patient suffering from an ailment(like hypothyroidism) and

> just

> > > > enjoy being iddle, it sound crazy, some would even be thinking

> I

> > am

> > > > the pervert, but, if you think about it, other than ignorance,

> > > > which can not be the case of a endocrinologist, the other

> reason

> > an

> > > > endo would tell a hypo sufferer he is fine, or undertreat him,

> > > > knowing the consecuences, is that element of human nature, some

> > > > unhappy, or twisted people, in this case, doctors, who,

> (believe

> > me,

> > > > I though about the reasons for a long time, I can not find

> them)

> > > > neglect patients, with no excuse, it must be the need in them

> > > > to " see " real sick, or real examples of an ailment,for them

> to ,

> > > > probably, reinforce their own feelings of superiority, or to

> > > > enhamce their own feelings of being healthy, the patients

> being

> > that

> > > > other side, the unhealthy, the unperfect. Sounds crazy, but ,

> how

> > > > else to express such lack of professionalism and lack of

> action,

> > to

> > > > put another human being in a position of missery , of

> imperfect

> > > > function of the body,with total knowledge of the situation?

> > > > There should be a yearly or biyearly exam on the

> performance

> > of

> > > > doctors, a psycological evaluation, because, unfit doctors in

> the

> > > > profession are as dangerous as unfit antisocial persons

> sporting

> > a

> > > > black belt in karate degree, a degree in self defense is

> > considered

> > > > a weapon, any person abusing this ability and beating up on

> > another

> > > > fellow would be charged with assault w/ deadly weapon.

> > > > Just a comment.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well I've learned one thing from this forum already - green tea. I

drink gallons of the stuff... At least five cups per day thinking

that I'll be the most glowingly radiantly healthy person for miles

around. I'm going to cut it out of my diet right now and see what

happens...

For someone who was wondering what to replace green tea with, I

drink this stuff called 'caro' which is pretty ok. It is just one of

those coffee substitutes made from barley. At first it tastes like

hell but you get used to it and now I actually like it.

S