Re: Hypothyroidism 2

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Kerry thank you. Steph

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Kerry

Re: Hypothyroidism 2

HI, this is for anyone who can answer this. I have been on Armour for

about three months now also progesterone cream. This is my question. I

never had the weight problem. But my hair was dry and brittle and

falling out. I have lost a lot of weight which I did not need to in the

first place. My hair loss has gotton tons worse since starting the

meds. Could it be that all I really needed is the progesterone cream

because I have read that it also helps thyroid. CouldI be becoming hyper

and not need the Armour? Help! Thanks Steph.....p.s I a few years back

I went to a dermotoligest and he siad I had excess angogens in my hair

folicols.

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Sutherland wrote:

> I am talking about for weight loss and it is expecially for

> hypothyroid suffers.

You are still not making sense. Nearly everyone on this list is taking

some form of thyroxine. It is THE treatment for hypothyroidism. However,

all of the potent, effective forms require a prescription. Armour,

Synthroid, Levoxyl, etc. ALL contain thyroxine as the active ingredient.

If you have an over the counter weight loss medication that claims to

contain thyroxine, it has to be a trace amount, too little to really

help with real hypoT.

Chuck

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I think I answered you b4. If you are on too low a dose of Armour you will

get very screwed up. I guess this is one of the hardest concepts for docs

and patients to understand.

Maybe we need a physics professor here to explain it.

Losing too much weight might be adrenal.

Gracia

> HI, this is for anyone who can answer this. I have been on Armour for

> about three months now also progesterone cream. This is my question. I

> never had the weight problem. But my hair was dry and brittle and falling

> out. I have lost a lot of weight which I did not need to in the first

> place. My hair loss has gotton tons worse since starting the meds. Could

> it be that all I really needed is the progesterone cream because I have

> read that it also helps thyroid. CouldI be becoming hyper and not need the

> Armour? Help! Thanks Steph.....p.s I a few years back I went to a

> dermotoligest and he siad I had excess angogens in my hair folicols.

>

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Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> Maybe we need a physics professor here to explain it.

I would just suggest a check of hyperT symptoms. The condition is

sufficiently uncomfortable, that I would expect you to know it and have

many of the symptoms at once, not just weight loss. The dry brittle hair

falling out sounds more hypoT.

Chuck

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Gracia, Are you a doctor? Thanks Steph

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

I think I answered you b4. If you are on too low a dose of Armour you will

get very screwed up. I guess this is one of the hardest concepts for docs

and patients to understand.

Maybe we need a physics professor here to explain it.

Losing too much weight might be adrenal.

Gracia

> HI, this is for anyone who can answer this. I have been on Armour for

> about three months now also progesterone cream. This is my question. I

> never had the weight problem. But my hair was dry and brittle and falling

> out. I have lost a lot of weight which I did not need to in the first

> place. My hair loss has gotton tons worse since starting the meds. Could

> it be that all I really needed is the progesterone cream because I have

> read that it also helps thyroid. CouldI be becoming hyper and not need the

> Armour? Help! Thanks Steph.....p.s I a few years back I went to a

> dermotoligest and he siad I had excess angogens in my hair folicols.

>

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yes if they raised it to 60mg that would be waaaay toooo low, but enough so

your cells woudl wake up. I also had a headache on 60mgs. Average dose is

180-240mg. I am on 240mg. Remember most docs don't know how to use Armour

((((((

Your dose is too low and you will continue to have lots of problems.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

Gracia

Gracia, Thank you but when they raised it. I got a bad head heach and my

chest was hurting. Thanks Steph

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

the Armour dose is too low. You will remain very sick until you

get enough medicine.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

Gracia

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Thank you Chuck, That is the reason I started going to docs because of the dry

brittle hair falling out. But I have been on armour for three mounths and my

hair loss got much worse I loss even more than I did before the meds. Also all

of this started 11 years ago after the birth of my son. When He was three I went

to a doc that took a biopys of my scalp and siad I had execss androgen but could

see a lot of new hair grow. Thats all he told me now eight years later I am

still loosing lots of hair and this does not run in my family. Do you know if it

is possiable when your adreanls are undrer stress that that could cause more

androgens in your body? Thanks Steph

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> Maybe we need a physics professor here to explain it.

I would just suggest a check of hyperT symptoms. The condition is

sufficiently uncomfortable, that I would expect you to know it and have

many of the symptoms at once, not just weight loss. The dry brittle hair

falling out sounds more hypoT.

Chuck

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Steph - FYI

I was told by a dermo that I had male pattern baldness last Sept. Had lost

over half of my hair. Turns out I discovered in within a few weeks of that

that I had very low ferritin levels. It has taken all these months

supplementing with ferritin, but my hair is growing back. Perhaps you need

Ferritin.

Regards

A

stephanie robertson <stephsnotes2003@...> wrote: Kerry thank you.

Steph

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote: Oh Androgens........good

old brain fog strikes again - I'll look it up

for you after work today (10.45 am here) and let you know if I find

anything

Kerry

Re: Hypothyroidism 2

HI, this is for anyone who can answer this. I have been on Armour for

about three months now also progesterone cream. This is my question. I

never had the weight problem. But my hair was dry and brittle and

falling out. I have lost a lot of weight which I did not need to in the

first place. My hair loss has gotton tons worse since starting the

meds. Could it be that all I really needed is the progesterone cream

because I have read that it also helps thyroid. CouldI be becoming hyper

and not need the Armour? Help! Thanks Steph.....p.s I a few years back

I went to a dermotoligest and he siad I had excess angogens in my hair

folicols.

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Sutherland wrote:

> I am talking about for weight loss and it is expecially for

> hypothyroid suffers.

You are still not making sense. Nearly everyone on this list is taking

some form of thyroxine. It is THE treatment for hypothyroidism. However,

all of the potent, effective forms require a prescription. Armour,

Synthroid, Levoxyl, etc. ALL contain thyroxine as the active ingredient.

If you have an over the counter weight loss medication that claims to

contain thyroxine, it has to be a trace amount, too little to really

help with real hypoT.

Chuck

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Thank you I will ask my doc about that. Is it pricey and is there a lot of bad

side effects? Did your dermo do a biopsy of your scalp or did he just look at

your hair and tell you that? Steph

Anonymous <mslatrobe@...> wrote: Steph - FYI

I was told by a dermo that I had male pattern baldness last Sept. Had lost

over half of my hair. Turns out I discovered in within a few weeks of that

that I had very low ferritin levels. It has taken all these months

supplementing with ferritin, but my hair is growing back. Perhaps you need

Ferritin.

Regards

A

stephanie robertson <stephsnotes2003@...> wrote: Kerry thank you.

Steph

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote: Oh Androgens........good

old brain fog strikes again - I'll look it up

for you after work today (10.45 am here) and let you know if I find

anything

Kerry

Re: Hypothyroidism 2

HI, this is for anyone who can answer this. I have been on Armour for

about three months now also progesterone cream. This is my question. I

never had the weight problem. But my hair was dry and brittle and

falling out. I have lost a lot of weight which I did not need to in the

first place. My hair loss has gotton tons worse since starting the

meds. Could it be that all I really needed is the progesterone cream

because I have read that it also helps thyroid. CouldI be becoming hyper

and not need the Armour? Help! Thanks Steph.....p.s I a few years back

I went to a dermotoligest and he siad I had excess angogens in my hair

folicols.

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Sutherland wrote:

> I am talking about for weight loss and it is expecially for

> hypothyroid suffers.

You are still not making sense. Nearly everyone on this list is taking

some form of thyroxine. It is THE treatment for hypothyroidism. However,

all of the potent, effective forms require a prescription. Armour,

Synthroid, Levoxyl, etc. ALL contain thyroxine as the active ingredient.

If you have an over the counter weight loss medication that claims to

contain thyroxine, it has to be a trace amount, too little to really

help with real hypoT.

Chuck

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,

You wrote:

> ... Do you know if it is

> possiable when your adreanls are undrer stress that that could cause

> more androgens in your body?

Possible, but I don't know how likely. In women, more androgens are

produced by the adrenal glands than by ovaries. However, hair loss is a

complicated issue. There can be many conditions that cause it, including

hypoT. The fact that the hair loss actually increased after starting

Armour does not tell us much. I is quite possible that your condition

continued to worsen at that time, so it gave the false appearance of a

coincidence. Unless you are on a full replacement dose, you could be

anywhere on the roller coaster. As Gracia suggested, you could still be

quite hypoT but thinking your symptoms are due to the medication, when

you really are not getting enough.

Chuck