Re: anitdepressants and hypothyroidism

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I just got more depressed amnd ended up in the hospital

kisstheskydragonfly <kisstheskydragonfly@...> wrote: I was

reading the daily log and saw some mention of antidepressants

and thought I had better poke in and say, I have recently read

(somewhere)that certain antidepressants aggrevate hypothyroidism and

may even contribute to the development of it. I remember it mentioning

Paxil (Because I took that for PPD several years ago) and Prozac,

there was a few others mentioned, but I can't recall which. I will

look into it again, if anyone is interested and let you know the

source (if I can remember where I was when I was reading it. lol).

Otherwise I would certainly exhibit caution when considering these

particular drugs with this particular disorder.

hth~Cherish

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[Guest guest]

Try Effexor, it made a huge difference and no side effects.

Marcia

[Guest guest]

Try Effexor, it made a huge difference and no side effects.

Marcia

[Guest guest]

>

> I was reading the daily log and saw some mention of antidepressants

> and thought I had better poke in and say, I have recently read

> (somewhere)that certain antidepressants aggrevate hypothyroidism and

> may even contribute to the development of it. I remember it mentioning

> Paxil (Because I took that for PPD several years ago) and Prozac,

> there was a few others mentioned, but I can't recall which. I will

> look into it again, if anyone is interested and let you know the

> source (if I can remember where I was when I was reading it. lol).

> Otherwise I would certainly exhibit caution when considering these

> particular drugs with this particular disorder.

>

> hth~Cherish

>

I have noticed also that some antidepressants have this effect. I was

prescribed Depakote (with nightmarish results) but have since found

something that works. It is best to exercise caution and maintian an

open relationship with the doc who is prescribing your meds. Just my

two cents.

[Guest guest]

Cherish and anyone on Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, or any other SSRI,

After reading what you said about Prozac and hypothyroidism, I decided to

look into it because the doctor just prescribed Prozac for me. She's not an

endocrinologist and obviously doesn't understand hypothyroidism. Here's

what I found:

Note on Prozac: One impact of prozac which is of particular concern is it's

impact on the thyroid. Eli Lilly, the company that produces Prozac, reports

that hypothyroidism can result from taking prozac, although the company

states that such cases are infrequent (see Manufacturer's Report listed

above). According to Henry

<http://medhlp.netusa.net/forums/mentalhealth/messages/30184a.html> Ford

Health System, " The product information of Prozac reveals that infrequently

Prozac may cause or worsen preexisting hypothyroidism. As hypothyroidism is

known to cause depression, it is important to have your thyroid function

checked. " According to

<http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa100500c.htm?terms=

prozac> Shomon, author of Living Well With Hypothyroidism, " Taking thyroid

hormone replacement while taking the popular antidepressant sertraline --

brand name Zoloft -- can cause a decrease in the effectiveness of the

thyroid hormone replacement, and make your TSH rise. This same effect has

also been seen in patients receiving other selective serotonin-reuptake

inhibitors such as Paxil (paroxetine) and Prozac (fluoxetine). If you are on

an antidepressant or thyroid hormone and your doctor wants to prescribe the

other, be sure to discuss these issues. "

Since hypothyroidism is a common cause of depression, there is concern that

patients with hypothyroidism may be prescribed prozac to treat their

depression, which could in turn make their hypothyroidism worse.

If anybody else out there knows of any scholarly articles along these same

lines, I'd appreciate it if you'd send 'em to me. Or send me the link.

Thanks. Edie

[Guest guest]

Edie,

Thanks for posting that. I forgot to look into it(sorry), glad to know

I wasn't imagining it though.

Cherish

[Guest guest]

Edie,

Thanks for posting that. I forgot to look into it(sorry), glad to know

I wasn't imagining it though.

Cherish

[Guest guest]

Hi Edie - I've just written similar to , but T3 cured my depression

so I have no doubt at all that it was thyroid related.

Kerry

RE: anitdepressants and hypothyroidism

Cherish and anyone on Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, or any other SSRI,

After reading what you said about Prozac and hypothyroidism, I decided

to

look into it because the doctor just prescribed Prozac for me. She's not

an

endocrinologist and obviously doesn't understand hypothyroidism. Here's

what I found:

Note on Prozac: One impact of prozac which is of particular concern is

it's

impact on the thyroid. Eli Lilly, the company that produces Prozac,

reports

that hypothyroidism can result from taking prozac, although the company

states that such cases are infrequent (see Manufacturer's Report listed

above). According to Henry

<http://medhlp.

<http://medhlp.netusa.net/forums/mentalhealth/messages/30184a.html>

netusa.net/forums/mentalhealth/messages/30184a.html> Ford

Health System, " The product information of Prozac reveals that

infrequently

Prozac may cause or worsen preexisting hypothyroidism. As hypothyroidism

is

known to cause depression, it is important to have your thyroid function

checked. " According to

<http://thyroid.

<http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa100500c.htm?te

rms=> about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa100500c.htm?terms=

prozac> Shomon, author of Living Well With Hypothyroidism, " Taking

thyroid

hormone replacement while taking the popular antidepressant sertraline

--

brand name Zoloft -- can cause a decrease in the effectiveness of the

thyroid hormone replacement, and make your TSH rise. This same effect

has

also been seen in patients receiving other selective serotonin-reuptake

inhibitors such as Paxil (paroxetine) and Prozac (fluoxetine). If you

are on

an antidepressant or thyroid hormone and your doctor wants to prescribe

the

other, be sure to discuss these issues. "

Since hypothyroidism is a common cause of depression, there is concern

that

patients with hypothyroidism may be prescribed prozac to treat their

depression, which could in turn make their hypothyroidism worse.

If anybody else out there knows of any scholarly articles along these

same

lines, I'd appreciate it if you'd send 'em to me. Or send me the link.

Thanks. Edie

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know this: If you are taking 0.125 of Synthroid once a

day.....how much Armour would this be?????

Marcia

[Guest guest]

Thank you gracia!!!

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Lincolnshire, IL 60069

Tel: 847-634-8210

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[Guest guest]

try Armour at the right dose. then you can live happily ever after.

gracia

Try Effexor, it made a huge difference and no side effects.

Marcia

[Guest guest]

look at http:///www.armourthyroid.com

youwill still need more Armour than this chart shows however. Treat your

symptoms.

gracia

Does anyone know this: If you are taking 0.125 of Synthroid once a

day.....how much Armour would this be?????

Marcia

[Guest guest]

No side effects? Check out this link:

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/venlafax_ad.htm

In part:

Body as a whole - Frequent: chest <javascript:defwindow('chest')> pain

<javascript:defwindow('pain')> substernal, chills, fever, neck

<javascript:defwindow('neck')> pain; Infrequent: face edema, intentional

injury, malaise, moniliasis, neck <javascript:defwindow('neck')>

rigidity, pelvic <javascript:defwindow('pelvic')> pain, photosensitivity

<javascript:defwindow('photosensitivity')> reaction, suicide

<javascript:defwindow('suicide')> attempt, withdrawal syndrome; Rare:

appendicitis, bacteremia, carcinoma, cellulitis.

Cardiovascular system - Frequent: migraine, postural

<javascript:defwindow('postural')> hypotension, tachycardia; Infrequent:

angina <javascript:defwindow('angina')> pectoris, arrhythmia,

bradycardia, extrasystoles, hypotension, peripheral

<javascript:defwindow('peripheral')> vascular

<javascript:defwindow('vascular')> disorder

<javascript:defwindow('disorder')> (mainly cold

<javascript:defwindow('cold')> feet <javascript:defwindow('feet')>

and/or cold <javascript:defwindow('cold')> hands), syncope,

thrombophlebitis; Rare: aortic <javascript:defwindow('aortic')>

aneurysm, arteritis, first-degree atrioventricular

<javascript:defwindow('atrioventricular')> block, bigeminy, bundle

<javascript:defwindow('bundle')> branch <javascript:defwindow('branch')>

block, capillary <javascript:defwindow('capillary')> fragility, cerebral

ischemia, coronary <javascript:defwindow('coronary')> artery

<javascript:defwindow('artery')> disease, congestive heart

<javascript:defwindow('heart')> failure, heart arrest, hematoma,

cardiovascular <javascript:defwindow('cardiovascular')> disorder

<javascript:defwindow('disorder')> (mitral valve

<javascript:defwindow('valve')> and circulatory

<javascript:defwindow('circulatory')> disturbance), mucocutaneous

<javascript:defwindow('mucocutaneous')> hemorrhage, myocardial

<javascript:defwindow('myocardial')> infarct, pallor, sinus

<javascript:defwindow('sinus')> arrhythmia.

Digestive system - Frequent: increased appetite; Infrequent: bruxism,

colitis, dysphagia, tongue <javascript:defwindow('tongue')> edema,

esophagitis, gastritis, gastroenteritis, gastrointestinal

<javascript:defwindow('gastrointestinal')> ulcer, gingivitis, glossitis,

rectal <javascript:defwindow('rectal')> hemorrhage, hemorrhoids, melena,

oral <javascript:defwindow('oral')> moniliasis, stomatitis, mouth

<javascript:defwindow('mouth')> ulceration; Rare: abdominal distension,

biliary <javascript:defwindow('biliary')> pain, cheilitis,

cholecystitis, cholelithiasis, esophageal spasms, duodenitis,

hematemesis, gastroesophageal <javascript:defwindow('gastroesophageal')>

reflux <javascript:defwindow('reflux')> disease, gastrointestinal

hemorrhage, gum <javascript:defwindow('gum')> hemorrhage, hepatitis,

ileitis, jaundice, intestinal <javascript:defwindow('intestinal')>

obstruction, liver <javascript:defwindow('liver')> tenderness,

parotitis, periodontitis, proctitis, rectal

<javascript:defwindow('rectal')> disorder, salivary gland

<javascript:defwindow('gland')> enlargement, increased salivation, soft

<javascript:defwindow('soft')> stools, tongue

<javascript:defwindow('tongue')> discoloration.

Endocrine system - Rare: galactorrhea, goiter, hyperthyroidism,

hypothyroidism, thyroid <javascript:defwindow('thyroid')> nodule,

thyroiditis.

Hemic and lymphatic <javascript:defwindow('lymphatic')> system -

Frequent: ecchymosis; Infrequent: anemia, leukocytosis, leukopenia,

lymphadenopathy, thrombocythemia; Rare: basophilia, bleeding

<javascript:defwindow('bleeding')> time <javascript:defwindow('time')>

increased, cyanosis, eosinophilia, lymphocytosis, multiple

<javascript:defwindow('multiple')> myeloma, purpura, thrombocytopenia.

Metabolic and nutritional - Frequent: edema, weight

<javascript:defwindow('weight')> gain; Infrequent: alkaline

<javascript:defwindow('alkaline')> phosphatase

<javascript:defwindow('phosphatase')> increased, dehydration,

hypercholesteremia, hyperglycemia, hyperlipemia, hypoglycemia,

hypokalemia, SGOT <javascript:defwindow('SGOT')> (AST) increased, SGPT

<javascript:defwindow('SGPT')> (ALT) increased, thirst; Rare: alcohol

<javascript:defwindow('alcohol')> intolerance, bilirubinemia, BUN

<javascript:defwindow('BUN')> increased, creatinine increased, diabetes

<javascript:defwindow('diabetes')> mellitus, glycosuria, gout, healing

<javascript:defwindow('healing')> abnormal, hemochromatosis,

hypercalcinuria, hyperkalemia, hyperphosphatemia, hyperuricemia,

hypocholesteremia, hyponatremia, hypophosphatemia, hypoproteinemia, uremia.

Musculoskeletal system - Frequent: arthralgia; Infrequent: arthritis,

arthrosis, bone <javascript:defwindow('bone')> spurs, bursitis, leg

<javascript:defwindow('leg')> cramps, myasthenia, tenosynovitis; Rare:

bone <javascript:defwindow('bone')> pain, pathological fracture, muscle

<javascript:defwindow('muscle')> cramp, muscle

<javascript:defwindow('muscle')> spasms, musculoskeletal

<javascript:defwindow('musculoskeletal')> stiffness, myopathy,

osteoporosis, osteosclerosis, plantar <javascript:defwindow('plantar')>

fasciitis, rheumatoid <javascript:defwindow('rheumatoid')> arthritis,

tendon <javascript:defwindow('tendon')> rupture.

Nervous system - Frequent: amnesia, confusion, depersonalization,

hypesthesia, thinking <javascript:defwindow('thinking')> abnormal,

trismus, vertigo; Infrequent: akathisia, apathy, ataxia, circumoral

<javascript:defwindow('circumoral')> paresthesia, CNS

<javascript:defwindow('CNS')> stimulation, emotional lability, euphoria,

hallucinations, hostility, hyperesthesia, hyperkinesia, hypotonia,

incoordination, manic <javascript:defwindow('manic')> reaction,

myoclonus, neuralgia, neuropathy, psychosis, seizure, abnormal

<javascript:defwindow('abnormal')> speech, stupor, suicidal ideation;

Rare: abnormal/changed behavior, adjustment

<javascript:defwindow('adjustment')> disorder, akinesia, alcohol

<javascript:defwindow('alcohol')> abuse, aphasia, bradykinesia,

buccoglossal syndrome, cerebrovascular

<javascript:defwindow('cerebrovascular')> accident, feeling

<javascript:defwindow('feeling')> drunk, loss

<javascript:defwindow('loss')> of consciousness, delusions, dementia,

dystonia, energy <javascript:defwindow('energy')> increased, facial

<javascript:defwindow('facial')> paralysis, abnormal gait,

Guillain-Barre Syndrome, homicidal ideation, hyperchlorhydria,

hypokinesia, hysteria, impulse <javascript:defwindow('impulse')> control

<javascript:defwindow('control')> difficulties, libido

<javascript:defwindow('libido')> increased, motion

<javascript:defwindow('motion')> sickness, neuritis, nystagmus, paranoid

<javascript:defwindow('paranoid')> reaction, paresis, psychotic

<javascript:defwindow('psychotic')> depression, reflexes decreased,

reflexes increased, torticollis.

Respiratory system - Frequent: cough <javascript:defwindow('cough')>

increased, dyspnea; Infrequent: asthma, chest

<javascript:defwindow('chest')> congestion, epistaxis, hyperventilation,

laryngismus, laryngitis, pneumonia, voice

<javascript:defwindow('voice')> alteration; Rare: atelectasis,

hemoptysis, hypoventilation, hypoxia, larynx

<javascript:defwindow('larynx')> edema, pleurisy, pulmonary

<javascript:defwindow('pulmonary')> embolus, sleep

<javascript:defwindow('sleep')> apnea.

Skin and appendages - Frequent: pruritus; Infrequent: acne, alopecia,

contact <javascript:defwindow('contact')> dermatitis, dry skin, eczema,

maculopapular <javascript:defwindow('maculopapular')> rash, psoriasis,

urticaria; Rare: brittle nails, erythema

<javascript:defwindow('erythema')> nodosum, exfoliative dermatitis,

lichenoid <javascript:defwindow('lichenoid')> dermatitis, hair

<javascript:defwindow('hair')> discoloration, skin

<javascript:defwindow('skin')> discoloration, furunculosis, hirsutism,

leukoderma, miliaria, petechial <javascript:defwindow('petechial')>

rash, pruritic rash, pustular <javascript:defwindow('pustular')> rash,

vesiculobullous rash, seborrhea, skin <javascript:defwindow('skin')>

atrophy, skin <javascript:defwindow('skin')> hypertrophy, skin

<javascript:defwindow('skin')> striae, sweating

<javascript:defwindow('sweating')> decreased.

Special senses - Frequent: abnormality

<javascript:defwindow('abnormality')> of accommodation, mydriasis, taste

<javascript:defwindow('taste')> perversion; Infrequent: conjunctivitis,

diplopia, dry eyes, eye pain, hyperacusis, otitis

<javascript:defwindow('otitis')> media, parosmia, photophobia, taste

<javascript:defwindow('taste')> loss, visual

<javascript:defwindow('visual')> field defect; Rare: blepharitis,

cataract, chromatopsia, conjunctival edema, corneal lesion, deafness,

exophthalmos, eye <javascript:defwindow('eye')> hemorrhage, glaucoma,

retinal <javascript:defwindow('retinal')> hemorrhage, subconjunctival

<javascript:defwindow('subconjunctival')> hemorrhage, keratitis,

labyrinthitis, miosis, papilledema, decreased pupillary

<javascript:defwindow('pupillary')> reflex, otitis

<javascript:defwindow('otitis')> externa, scleritis, uveitis.

Urogenital system - Frequent: prostatic

<javascript:defwindow('prostatic')> disorder

<javascript:defwindow('disorder')> (prostatitis, enlarged prostate, and

prostate <javascript:defwindow('prostate')> irritability),* urination

<javascript:defwindow('urination')> impaired; Infrequent: albuminuria,

amenorrhea,* cystitis, dysuria, hematuria, kidney

<javascript:defwindow('kidney')> calculus, kidney pain, leukorrhea,*

menorrhagia,* metrorrhagia,* nocturia, breast

<javascript:defwindow('breast')> pain, polyuria, pyuria, urinary

<javascript:defwindow('urinary')> incontinence, urinary

<javascript:defwindow('urinary')> retention, urinary

<javascript:defwindow('urinary')> urgency, vaginal

<javascript:defwindow('vaginal')> hemorrhage,* vaginitis*; Rare:

abortion,* anuria, breast <javascript:defwindow('breast')> discharge,

breast <javascript:defwindow('breast')> engorgement, balanitis,* breast

<javascript:defwindow('breast')> enlargement, endometriosis,* female

<javascript:defwindow('female')> lactation,* fibrocystic breast, calcium

<javascript:defwindow('calcium')> crystalluria, cervicitis,* orchitis,*

ovarian <javascript:defwindow('ovarian')> cyst,* bladder pain, prolonged

erection,* gynecomastia <javascript:defwindow('gynecomastia')> (male),*

hypomenorrhea,* kidney <javascript:defwindow('kidney')> function

abnormal, mastitis, menopause,* pyelonephritis, oliguria, salpingitis,*

urolithiasis, uterine <javascript:defwindow('uterine')> hemorrhage,*

uterine <javascript:defwindow('uterine')> spasm,* vaginal

<javascript:defwindow('vaginal')> dryness.*

*Based on the number <javascript:defwindow('number')> of men and women

as appropriate.

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I believe most of these occurred in a very small minority of total

patients; but it's confusing to say there are no side effects. Maybe

_you_ had no side effects?

> 6a.

>

>

> Re: anitdepressants and hypothyroidism

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> Marcia wrote:

>

> Try Effexor, it made a huge difference and no side effects.

>

> Marcia

>

[Guest guest]

I also took effexor Sorry for the spelling

it work for me but I had to go off of it because it was another proscription

and I couldn't afford it anymore

but it did help me for 5 years wish I could still afford it

LOVE YA DEB

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