Re: Does synthroid drive up Estrogen?

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I understand synthroid is a hormone...but it is not estrogen is it? if one

isn't taking an estrogen replacement yet they have excess estrogen is that due

to the body converting hormones into estrogen?....due to a hormonal imbalance?

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What? LOL

I think $inthroid is crap :)but many times the addition of thyroid meds

normalizes hormone problems. It is not uncommon for hypos to have

hysterectomies when they actually need thyroid hormones. They are less

likely to remove male parts. .However many women who are hypo are also

deficient in progesterone Hormone imbalance/deficiency does not necessarily

mean you have too much of one hormone.

Gracia

>I understand synthroid is a hormone...but it is not estrogen is it? if one

>isn't taking an estrogen replacement yet they have excess estrogen is that

>due to the body converting hormones into estrogen?....due to a hormonal

>imbalance?

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Gracia

once again you didn't answer the question rather just dispense your opinion

about synthroid. im surprised you didn't tell me to use armour and life would

be happy ever after.

as for your LOL...sorry i haven't google searched my way to be a thryoid

specialist such as yourself. you continually knock Drs who went thru schooling

to become certified...but you claim to know so much more by what?...reading

literature on the web and barna brodes (sp?) stuff? again..why are they

knowledgeable and Drs aren't? cuz they push meds like armour?

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

What? LOL

I think $inthroid is crap :)but many times the addition of thyroid meds

normalizes hormone problems. It is not uncommon for hypos to have

hysterectomies when they actually need thyroid hormones. They are less

likely to remove male parts. .However many women who are hypo are also

deficient in progesterone Hormone imbalance/deficiency does not necessarily

mean you have too much of one hormone.

Gracia

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I believe this might be true (do you think you could sign your name as I

always am going to call you Jack?)

Apparently thyroid hormone can influence the sex hormones too - both

positively and negatively.

Kerry

Re: Does synthroid drive up Estrogen?

I understand synthroid is a hormone...but it is not estrogen is it? if

one isn't taking an estrogen replacement yet they have excess estrogen

is that due to the body converting hormones into estrogen?....due to a

hormonal imbalance?

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Kerry Ann

My name is Jack...i'm a 30yo male. which is why i'm concerned about excess

estrogen. i do have slight gynecomastia (male breast) however it's just fat and

not breast tissue...which is reversible once my body rids the estrogen and quits

building on itself. my body is otherwise in great shape as i have great muscle

tone overall (except for stomach and ofcourse chest as i mentioned).

arms/shoulders, legs are in great shape..its rather odd...but explainable. my

progesterone is also very low. i'll find out what my endo suggests...as prior

to these results he's already talked about an anti aromatase inhibitor. more to

come.

thanks for your post.

Jack

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote:

I believe this might be true (do you think you could sign your name as I

always am going to call you Jack?)

Apparently thyroid hormone can influence the sex hormones too - both

positively and negatively.

Kerry

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LOL sorry Jack - I think there is another poster on one of the forums

who posts in her partners name - sorry about that.

I really do think that all the hormones need balancing and that is the

down side of playing with it ourselves - it is very complex - of course

in the absence of decent medical help what choice do we have?

Kerry

RE: Does synthroid drive up Estrogen?

Kerry Ann

My name is Jack...i'm a 30yo male. which is why i'm concerned about

excess estrogen. i do have slight gynecomastia (male breast) however

it's just fat and not breast tissue...which is reversible once my body

rids the estrogen and quits building on itself. my body is otherwise in

great shape as i have great muscle tone overall (except for stomach and

ofcourse chest as i mentioned). arms/shoulders, legs are in great

shape..its rather odd...but explainable. my progesterone is also very

low. i'll find out what my endo suggests...as prior to these results

he's already talked about an anti aromatase inhibitor. more to come.

thanks for your post.

Jack

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote:

I believe this might be true (do you think you could sign your name as

I

always am going to call you Jack?)

Apparently thyroid hormone can influence the sex hormones too - both

positively and negatively.

Kerry

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[Guest guest]

Gee I thought I did answer your question! Hypothyroidism affects other

hormones, in fact they all work together! Look at Hormone Solutions by

Thierry Hertoghe MD and Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda

MD. My own life experience bears this out as well.

As for my LOL.....I had no clue to what you were responding to so I said

" what? " then figured maybe I could respond to it. I am sort of raising my

hand to say " I know the answer " .

Honestly I don't know why they are knowledgeable and most doctors aren't.

I would have to guess that big pharma dictates education and treatment

protocols. This really ain't rocket science. I personally have lost

respect for most docs, they are glorified drug reps. Everytime I have

consulted a doc either they have done nothing or they have tried to do harm.

That's crazy. Of course maybe I'm an anomaly LOL.

gracia

> Gracia

>

> once again you didn't answer the question rather just dispense your

> opinion about synthroid. im surprised you didn't tell me to use armour

> and life would be happy ever after.

>

> as for your LOL...sorry i haven't google searched my way to be a thryoid

> specialist such as yourself. you continually knock Drs who went thru

> schooling to become certified...but you claim to know so much more by

> what?...reading literature on the web and barna brodes (sp?) stuff?

> again..why are they knowledgeable and Drs aren't? cuz they push meds like

> armour?

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Gracia,

No, you sound like a pretty sane one to me.

Re: Does synthroid drive up Estrogen?

Gee I thought I did answer your question! Hypothyroidism affects other

hormones, in fact they all work together! Look at Hormone Solutions by

Thierry Hertoghe MD and Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda

MD. My own life experience bears this out as well.

As for my LOL.....I had no clue to what you were responding to so I said

" what? " then figured maybe I could respond to it. I am sort of raising my

hand to say " I know the answer " .

Honestly I don't know why they are knowledgeable and most doctors aren't.

I would have to guess that big pharma dictates education and treatment

protocols. This really ain't rocket science. I personally have lost

respect for most docs, they are glorified drug reps. Everytime I have

consulted a doc either they have done nothing or they have tried to do harm.

That's crazy. Of course maybe I'm an anomaly LOL.

gracia

> Gracia

>

> once again you didn't answer the question rather just dispense your

> opinion about synthroid. im surprised you didn't tell me to use armour

> and life would be happy ever after.

>

> as for your LOL...sorry i haven't google searched my way to be a thryoid

> specialist such as yourself. you continually knock Drs who went thru

> schooling to become certified...but you claim to know so much more by

> what?...reading literature on the web and barna brodes (sp?) stuff?

> again..why are they knowledgeable and Drs aren't? cuz they push meds like

> armour?

>

>

>

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Gracia

you wrote:

>Gee I thought I did answer your question! Hypothyroidism affects other

hormones, in fact they all work together!

The question was 'Does Synthroid drive up Estrogen'?...not 'Does

hypothyroidism affect other hormones'. I know that Hypothyroidism causes all

sorts of issues with hormones. Taking meds helps alleviate thes issues. The

question is does them med have a side effect of driving up some hormones out of

range...which isn't a good thing especially Estrogen for men.

You really are the poster child for why Drs don't like to listen to their

patients.

Have you had any uptakes or scans of your thyroid gland? What were the

results?

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[Guest guest]

OK! I just cannot see how $inthroid could drive up estrogen but it might

very well expose prorogesterone/other hormone/adrenal deficits. When

adrenals are struggling DHEA is often high or low, estrogen higher and

progesterone low. Then everything goes low as adrenals become weaker.

> Gracia

> you wrote:

> >Gee I thought I did answer your question! Hypothyroidism affects other

> hormones, in fact they all work together!

>

>

> The question was 'Does Synthroid drive up Estrogen'?...not 'Does

> hypothyroidism affect other hormones'. I know that Hypothyroidism causes

> all sorts of issues with hormones. Taking meds helps alleviate thes

> issues. The question is does them med have a side effect of driving up

> some hormones out of range...which isn't a good thing especially Estrogen

> for men.

This is true for sure!! When I have to talk to docs on the phone about my

mother (who is very ill and untreated) I am treated very respectfully b/c I

can talk the talk. They think I am a professional! However as a

patient the only docs who like me are those with some intellectual curiosity

and who feel secure about themselves. My BB doc loved me, said I knew more

than most endos, and my present doc enjoys me too. We have a mutually

respectful relationship, not the lopsided power relationship of traditional

doctor/patient. No I have never had an uptake or scan of my thyroid gland.

I have had a partial thyroidectomy at age 22 b/c I had hyper symptoms. Now

I know thyroid gland was burning out and I actually needed iodine and Armour

and adrenal meds. So unfortunately I was the victim of a medical mistake.

I lost 30 years of my life b/c of no meds and doing what Josh Rubin

suggests! At 51 I was ready to die, the only reason I am not dead is me!

So scans and uptakes are pretty useless to me, I just needed the right meds.

Gracia

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> You really are the poster child for why Drs don't like to listen to their

> patients.

> Have you had any uptakes or scans of your thyroid gland? What were the

> results?

>

>

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