Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Hi Mahkti. In kindness I would like to say that I think you are operating misinformation. The body needs animal fat like butter to make hormones and to absorb many vitamins. And butter, at various times of the year, is high in vit a and other good things. Also. Dr. Barefoots says that it has been shown that women who eat low fat/no fat diets have more breast cancer than those who eat butter. Sorry I have no references for this. Just operating off of memory here. I know that Sally Fallon talks about this in her recipe book. Don't remember the name. Donna -----Original Message----- Dear All, In my opinion there is no such thing as better butter. Butter is almost pure fat, something we can do without. I think we can find any nutrient that butter supplies in some other non dairy form. Margarine and any butter substitute(except Oliva) is probably worst than butter when it comes to fat content. I think butter is probably one of the worst things that a person can eat non-organic, organic or raw. Mahkti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Hi Donna, Your statement seems to infer that butter is a cancer preventing food for women. In kindness, I would also like to say that you are operating misinformation. Why can't you just say that you disagree? Mahkti > Hi Mahkti. In kindness I would like to say that I think you are operating misinformation. The body needs animal fat like butter to make hormones and to absorb many vitamins. And butter, at various times of the year, is high in vit a and other good things. Also. Dr. Barefoots says that it has been shown that women who eat low fat/no fat diets have more breast cancer than those who eat butter. > > Sorry I have no references for this. Just operating off of memory here. I know that Sally Fallon talks about this in her recipe book. Don't remember the name. > Donna > -----Original Message----- > > > > Dear All, > > In my opinion there is no such thing as better butter. Butter is > almost pure fat, something we can do without. I think we can find > any nutrient that butter supplies in some other non dairy form. > Margarine and any butter substitute(except Oliva) is probably worst > than butter when it comes to fat content. I think butter is probably > one of the worst things that a person can eat non-organic, organic or > raw. > > Mahkti > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Hi Mahkti. I don't see it as an agreeing or disagreeing issue. I see it as a what are the facts issue. I don't believe BUTTER is good or BELIEVE butter is bad. I don't see it as a belief issue. It is either beneficial or it isn't and from what I have read, I UNDERSTAND it to be beneficial. Tho we have been told over and over again that it is bad for us, the facts are that, that is not true. It is not butter that raises cholesterol, for instance, it is lack of vegetable fiber. It is like the misunderstanding that eggs raise cholesterol because they have cholesterol in them. In actuallity that is not true. I know a guy who ate three dozen eggs a day for three weeks tyying to get ready for a fitness contest. At the end of the three weeks his cholesterol was lower than before. But he ate lots of veges. The problem with the American diet is not that we eat fat, eggs, and meat. It is that we don't eat fresh live food along with it. AND we eat too much totally dead food/fast foods and soda's etc. But people elsewhere in the world who eat butter are healthy because they also eat lots of fresh live food. Donna -----Original Message----- Hi Donna, Your statement seems to infer that butter is a cancer preventing food for women. In kindness, I would also like to say that you are operating misinformation. Why can't you just say that you disagree? Mahkti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 In a message dated 7/6/2001 10:40:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mahkti@... writes: > Your statement seems to infer that butter is a cancer preventing food > for women. I did not get that from Donna's post at all. co-moderator of Sacred Sisters Circle <A HREF= " SacredSistersCircle " >SacredSistersCircle</A> Don't worry, I know there's confusion ..... But God's gonna see us through ..... Peace after revolution ... (Badu) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 The main point of the statement (below) is linking low/no fat diets to breast cancer. BTW: Medical studies also link low/no fat diets and extended fasts to the increased production of gallstones. betsy Pehaps you should read it again. " Also. Dr. Barefoots says that it has been shown that women who eat low fat/no fat diets have more breast cancer than those who eat butter. " Mahkti > > Your statement seems to infer that butter is a cancer preventing food > > for women. > > I did not get that from Donna's post at all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 <<BTW: Medical studies also link low/no fat diets and extended fasts to the increased production of gallstones. betsy>> This is due strictly to weight loss. Your body 'eats' the fat you are losing and your liver must process it. Anyone who has lost weight, particularly those who yo-yo, run a large amount of fat through the liver and in my opinion can benefit from a liver flush. Both McDougall (10% fat diet) and Ornish (similar to McDougall) have had tremendous success in reversing heart disease when people are faithful in following their diets. Even the Pritiken diet (20% fat) has been statistically shown to reduce heart disease. In fact, I think there was an entire community who went on the Pritiken diet a few years ago and their total medical ailments were reduced dramatically. Though cancer is the scariest, if a cure for all of it were found today, it would add 6 months to the life span of people in the U. S. If a cure for heart disease were discovered, it would add 10 years to the life span of people in the U. S. The benefits of a low fat high fiber diet far outweigh any disadvantages. The main difficulty is staying on one of those diets. Jim B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Unfortunately some people think that if low fat is good, no fat is better and it is not. We need fat in our diet to be healthy. And fiber is the main issue when doing a healthy amount of fat. That is where most people run into problems with cholesterol and more. They have a low fiber diet. People do well on the plans mentioned below because they are high fiber diets. And, most of the fats that are killing people are fats from french fries and chips and fried chicken. It isn't from pat of organic raw butter on a whole grain piece of bread or a plate of fresh steamed veges. It is a bigger issue than fat and fiber. It is a fake food real food issue also. And, there are many cures for cancer. mgn-3, oxygen therapies, coral calcium. Just to name a few. xo Blessings, Donna -----Original Message----- <<BTW: Medical studies also link low/no fat diets and extended fasts to the increased production of gallstones. betsy>> This is due strictly to weight loss. Your body 'eats' the fat you are losing and your liver must process it. Anyone who has lost weight, particularly those who yo-yo, run a large amount of fat through the liver and in my opinion can benefit from a liver flush. Both McDougall (10% fat diet) and Ornish (similar to McDougall) have had tremendous success in reversing heart disease when people are faithful in following their diets. Even the Pritiken diet (20% fat) has been statistically shown to reduce heart disease. In fact, I think there was an entire community who went on the Pritiken diet a few years ago and their total medical ailments were reduced dramatically. Though cancer is the scariest, if a cure for all of it were found today, it would add 6 months to the life span of people in the U. S. If a cure for heart disease were discovered, it would add 10 years to the life span of people in the U. S. The benefits of a low fat high fiber diet far outweigh any disadvantages. The main difficulty is staying on one of those diets. Jim B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Thanks Jim. Whenever I try to be succinct in e-mail it gets misunderstood. I should have prefaced that in my earlier e-mail. I did not advocate a high fat diet, just oppose the no-fat one and suggest further discrimination of the kind if fats consumed in the low fat diet. Sensible fat consumption is what I was trying to get at. I'm a fan of butter instead of margarine for mental health reasons as well. BTW: As of very recently, science is revising the " low fat diet " mantra. Did you see the huge article in " Science " magazine in April about the new research regarding fat consumption? It calls into question some of what medical and conventional wisdom has been preaching for the last 3 decades. A very interesting read, anyway which you may enjoy. Cheerio, Betsy RE: Re: Better Butter <<BTW: Medical studies also link low/no fat diets and extended fasts to the increased production of gallstones. betsy>> This is due strictly to weight loss. Your body 'eats' the fat you are losing and your liver must process it. Anyone who has lost weight, particularly those who yo-yo, run a large amount of fat through the liver and in my opinion can benefit from a liver flush. Both McDougall (10% fat diet) and Ornish (similar to McDougall) have had tremendous success in reversing heart disease when people are faithful in following their diets. Even the Pritiken diet (20% fat) has been statistically shown to reduce heart disease. In fact, I think there was an entire community who went on the Pritiken diet a few years ago and their total medical ailments were reduced dramatically. Though cancer is the scariest, if a cure for all of it were found today, it would add 6 months to the life span of people in the U. S. If a cure for heart disease were discovered, it would add 10 years to the life span of people in the U. S. The benefits of a low fat high fiber diet far outweigh any disadvantages. The main difficulty is staying on one of those diets. Jim B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Thanks Jim. Whenever I try to be succinct in e-mail it gets misunderstood. I should have prefaced that in my earlier e-mail. I did not advocate a high fat diet, just oppose the no-fat one and suggest further discrimination of the kind if fats consumed in the low fat diet. Sensible fat consumption is what I was trying to get at. I'm a fan of butter instead of margarine for mental health reasons as well. BTW: As of very recently, science is revising the " low fat diet " mantra. Did you see the huge article in " Science " magazine in April about the new research regarding fat consumption? It calls into question some of what medical and conventional wisdom has been preaching for the last 3 decades. A very interesting read, anyway which you may enjoy. Cheerio, Betsy RE: Re: Better Butter <<BTW: Medical studies also link low/no fat diets and extended fasts to the increased production of gallstones. betsy>> This is due strictly to weight loss. Your body 'eats' the fat you are losing and your liver must process it. Anyone who has lost weight, particularly those who yo-yo, run a large amount of fat through the liver and in my opinion can benefit from a liver flush. Both McDougall (10% fat diet) and Ornish (similar to McDougall) have had tremendous success in reversing heart disease when people are faithful in following their diets. Even the Pritiken diet (20% fat) has been statistically shown to reduce heart disease. In fact, I think there was an entire community who went on the Pritiken diet a few years ago and their total medical ailments were reduced dramatically. Though cancer is the scariest, if a cure for all of it were found today, it would add 6 months to the life span of people in the U. S. If a cure for heart disease were discovered, it would add 10 years to the life span of people in the U. S. The benefits of a low fat high fiber diet far outweigh any disadvantages. The main difficulty is staying on one of those diets. Jim B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 I softened 1 pound of butter and added 4 oz of coconut oil and then beat it to mix. I then will freeze it and eat that. Am hoping this will be better for me to eat than straight coconut oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 >From: " sabrina_cat123 " <sabrina_cat123@...> >I softened 1 pound of butter and added 4 oz of coconut oil and then >beat it to mix. I then will freeze it and eat that. Am hoping this >will be better for me to eat than straight coconut oil Great idea , I will have to try it! Shirley G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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