Re: Low Carb, Low Fat, High Protien

September 18, 2002

Low fat might not be a good idea, since most of us have essential fatty acid

deficiencies. Insulin and thyroid hormones need fats to work properly.

Gracia

> Because I have discovered that eating <100 grams of carbs per day, GREATLY

diminishes most of my hypothyroid symptoms (especially the pain), I am

trying to eat a low carb diet. Because I am currently about 70 pounds

overweight, I also need to eat low fat. Therefore I am trying to eat 30% of

my daily calories in fat, 35% in carbs, and 35% in protein.

>

> Btw, I am still convinced that hypothyroid and blood sugar are connected.

Look here about 3/4 of the way down the page where it talks about insulin

resistance: http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/losingweight.htm

>

> Can you send me either here or offlist at rjenkins@... your favorite

low fat, low carb foods and/or recipes?

>

> TIA!

> ~*~Rhonda~*~

>

September 18, 2002

Hmm... interesting. Could you expand on that thought or give me links to check

out? Thanks!

~*~Rhonda~*~

Re: Low Carb, Low Fat, High Protien

Low fat might not be a good idea, since most of us have essential fatty acid

deficiencies. Insulin and thyroid hormones need fats to work properly.

Gracia

> Because I have discovered that eating <100 grams of carbs per day, GREATLY

diminishes most of my hypothyroid symptoms (especially the pain), I am

trying to eat a low carb diet. Because I am currently about 70 pounds

overweight, I also need to eat low fat. Therefore I am trying to eat 30% of

my daily calories in fat, 35% in carbs, and 35% in protein.

>

> Btw, I am still convinced that hypothyroid and blood sugar are connected.

Look here about 3/4 of the way down the page where it talks about insulin

resistance: http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/losingweight.htm

>

> Can you send me either here or offlist at rjenkins@... your favorite

low fat, low carb foods and/or recipes?

>

> TIA!

> ~*~Rhonda~*~

>

September 18, 2002

I am new so don't know a lot here but I went on the mediterranean diet with

hubby a few months ago. He has lost over 100 lbs & is now totally off

diabetic meds. I have lost 20 lbs. We eat sugar free & low fat products as

well as all the fat free things we find in our food program ie: cottage

cheese, margarine, etc.

Joyce

September 18, 2002

I would not call a diet where 30% of calories come from fat a low fat

diet. A low fat diet would be 15% to 20% fat calories. A diet that is

30% fat is a moderate fat diet. More than 35% would be a high fat

diet.

Best wishes,

Celeste

Gracia wrote:

> Low fat might not be a good idea, since most of us have essential

fatty acid

> deficiencies. Insulin and thyroid hormones need fats to work

properly.

>

> Rhonda wrote:

> > Because I have discovered that eating <100 grams of carbs per

day, GREATLY

> diminishes most of my hypothyroid symptoms (especially the pain), I

am

> trying to eat a low carb diet. Because I am currently about 70

pounds

> overweight, I also need to eat low fat. Therefore I am trying to

eat 30% of

> my daily calories in fat, 35% in carbs, and 35% in protein.

> >

September 18, 2002

Most everything I have read says that a person needs 25%-30% of their calories

in fat. what gets me is that some people on low carb diets eat HIGH fat. I

just can't believe that eating a half dozen eggs every day, high fat salad

dressing, real butter, and drinking cream instead of milk is healthy.

~*~Rhonda~*~

Re: Low Carb, Low Fat, High Protien

I would not call a diet where 30% of calories come from fat a low fat

diet. A low fat diet would be 15% to 20% fat calories. A diet that is

30% fat is a moderate fat diet. More than 35% would be a high fat

diet.

Best wishes,

Celeste

Gracia wrote:

> Low fat might not be a good idea, since most of us have essential

fatty acid

> deficiencies. Insulin and thyroid hormones need fats to work

properly.

>

> Rhonda wrote:

> > Because I have discovered that eating <100 grams of carbs per

day, GREATLY

> diminishes most of my hypothyroid symptoms (especially the pain), I

am

> trying to eat a low carb diet. Because I am currently about 70

pounds

> overweight, I also need to eat low fat. Therefore I am trying to

eat 30% of

> my daily calories in fat, 35% in carbs, and 35% in protein.

> >

September 18, 2002

YUMMMM, I drink whole milk with cream on top, butter, eggs, olive oil,

what ever I feel like. Don't touch processed oils and hydrogenated

margarine. I think it's easy to know what to eat if you eat real food and

listen to your body's messages as to what it needs.

There is a lot of fat concentrated in the brain. Every cell membrane is

made up of protein and fat. The body needs cholesterol and fat to make

hormones.

I think many of America's health problems can be traced back to the

introduction of processed hydrogenated oils in processed foods, which kept

food on the shelves a long time without tasting rancid, use of margarine and

other cheap fats when butter was unavailable (WW ll), and marketing of

infant formula, which had no essential fatty acids so necessary for infant

growth. I personally believe EFA deficiencies contribute to thyroid

illnesses.

I read the article about insulin and EFAs in Life Enhancement

www.life-enhancement.com but it isn't there any more and I guess I didn't

keep it.

Gracia

> Most everything I have read says that a person needs 25%-30% of their

calories in fat. what gets me is that some people on low carb diets eat

HIGH fat. I just can't believe that eating a half dozen eggs every day,

high fat salad dressing, real butter, and drinking cream instead of milk is

healthy.

>

> ~*~Rhonda~*~

>

> Re: Low Carb, Low Fat, High Protien

>

> I would not call a diet where 30% of calories come from fat a low fat

> diet. A low fat diet would be 15% to 20% fat calories. A diet that is

> 30% fat is a moderate fat diet. More than 35% would be a high fat

> diet.

>

September 18, 2002

Rhonda,

I agree with the 25% to 30% figure. With regard to eating a half

dozen eggs every day, high fat salad dressing, real butter, and

drinking cream instead of milk, well, I'm just not very fond of any

of those things. I've never liked egg yolks, for one thing. And

drinking cream does not sound at all appealing. If I have a recipe

that lists margarine, though, I will probably substitute real butter.

I just don't use butter or margarine as a sauce or a spread. The way

I'm currently eating seems to work well for me, so I have no reason

to change it. My diet is patterned after The Zone Diet.

Best wishes,

Celeste

Rhonda wrote:

> Most everything I have read says that a person needs 25%-30% of

their calories in fat. what gets me is that some people on low carb

diets eat HIGH fat. I just can't believe that eating a half dozen

eggs every day, high fat salad dressing, real butter, and drinking

cream instead of milk is healthy.

>

September 18, 2002

That is good to hear but being of Spanish and Mediterranean ancestry, my

ancestors' diet was not low fat. They used whole milk, butter, eggs and

lots of meat and fish.

Gracia

> I am new so don't know a lot here but I went on the mediterranean diet

with

> hubby a few months ago. He has lost over 100 lbs & is now totally off

> diabetic meds. I have lost 20 lbs. We eat sugar free & low fat products as

> well as all the fat free things we find in our food program ie: cottage

> cheese, margarine, etc.

>

> Joyce

>

September 21, 2002

In defense of low carb diets....

I have been on one for a week, plus I've been working out a little

more regularly. I've felt WONDERFUL this week. Today, I went off of

the diet and ate some things( white rice) and I already feel run down

and bloated again. I'm currently on 40g's a day or darn near close to

it. LOL! I'm trying to do Protein Power but am seriously looking at

The Zone( once I figure out what they eat...). I just got from the

library the book, " The Goddess Diet " and can't wait to look at it.

Anyway, I believe that low-carb diets are beneficial for hypothyroid

patients. I would never stay at 40/day for a long time though but

it's a good place to start.

P.

> Because I have discovered that eating <100 grams of carbs per day,

GREATLY diminishes most of my hypothyroid symptoms (especially the

pain), I am trying to eat a low carb diet. Because I am currently

about 70 pounds overweight, I also need to eat low fat. Therefore I

am trying to eat 30% of my daily calories in fat, 35% in carbs, and

35% in protein.

>

> Btw, I am still convinced that hypothyroid and blood sugar are

connected. Look here about 3/4 of the way down the page where it

talks about insulin resistance: http://www.thyroid-

info.com/articles/losingweight.htm

>

> Can you send me either here or offlist at rjenkins@p... your

favorite low fat, low carb foods and/or recipes?

>

> TIA!

> ~*~Rhonda~*~

>

September 23, 2002

Actually , if you are having an insulin resistance problem, 40 grams of

carbs a day is not a bad idea and you might have to live that way indefinitely

to keep the hypo symptoms away.