Re: Hi :o)

[Guest guest]

Welcome Sally. It is great you and your sister are doing it together. A

little advice on the tapes go to ebay you can find great deals. OR invest in

the DVD version of the sweatin to the oldies. I have seen the packed set at

best buy and I think walmart.

NH

Mommy to Abby Liz 10-25-94

Mommy to Anne 7-1-99

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From: " jojoluvsteddybears " <jojoshops@...>

> - Latin workout

Hi Sally. Welcome! Is the Latin workout as fun as it sounds? I would like

a hip hop workout tape. Unfortunately it has to be geared to an almost 40

year old 240 pound woman.

Ann

[Guest guest]

Hi Zuzzan welcome to the group.

If you can find coconut oil in your area I would try that on your rashes as that

helped to clear up my sporadic ones. If you go to the side panel on this group

under files you will find a ton of information about candida, diet, etc.

I know atkins and my ENT says that you can eat cream, cream cheese, and

mozzarella or farmer cheese. My ENT also says I can eat velveeta or processed

cheese (aggghhhhh!!!!). I tested positive for mold and the ENT gave me a list

of things I couldn't eat too and said the small amount of dairy wouldn't hurt if

it wasn't aged.

I think it does cause me a problem and I am trying hard to stay off of it

completely for a couple of months. It is hard as I have never met a cheese I

didn't like.

I also try to stay away from AS (artificial sweetners) and use stevia and some

splenda. I am not sure how AS affects candida. If you are making a lot of

positive changes maybe you shouldn't be so hard on yourself about the AS and try

to wean yourself off of them. I get really bad during PMS too.

Jeanne

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Hi,

Im new here. I started the Atkins diet 4 weeks back and in the book i

read about candida. I have had cystitis, vaginal fungus, and rashes

with fungus on different parts of my body for years and years. On the

checklist i had a yes in 13 out of 15 symptoms for candida.

This scaring me a bit i decided to see my doctor. He prescriped some

pills for me which i am to take for 4 weeks. Since Atkins in it self

cuts out a lot of the bad stuff i thougt it was easy to do this as

well. But now im kind of confused. The Atkins book states that the

things i should stay away from is the mushroom, vinegar, soy and all

kinds of nuts plus all the stuff you cant have on Atkins anyway

(flour, sugar, rice, pasta and so on)

Asking a but around, surfing on the net i have found a lot of

different info.

Are nuts ok after soaking?

Are mozarella cheese, cream and sour cream allowed? The Atkins book

says yes but on the net i found that all dairy is banned.

How about artificial sweeteners? I have a very real problem in that

area if thats really not allowed. I turn into a world class big ass

super bitch during my periods if i dont get something thats sweet.

After just doing the diet-part of the anti-candida guide from the

Atkins book i feel better but i still get the rashes on my body. I

hate it so much. It smells SO bad. And it made me wonder - does this

fungus infect more when i try to kill it as some kind of defence? I

just think its weird that i get MORE outbreaks now that before.

I have experienced a but of the die-off i have read about. Feeling

very tired somedays and i was close to fainting one day due to

dizzyness. So i guess i am doing it right - or at least some of it?

I think all this is really confusing. I would really like to get rid

of all those infections and somehow it would have been easier just

sticking with the Atkins book but if its not enough its not enough.

Im so sorry this is long but as i said - im confused.

Zuzzan

[Guest guest]

Hi Zuzzan,

Welcome to our friendly helpful group.

Zuzzan " <zannie@a...> wrote:

> Im new here. I started the Atkins diet 4 weeks back and in the

book i read about candida. I have had cystitis, vaginal fungus, and

rashes with fungus on different parts of my body for years and

years. On the > checklist i had a yes in 13 out of 15 symptoms for

candida.

The Atkins diet has a number of things right about, but not

everything. There is an article in our files (left side-bar) on How

to Treat Vaginal Yeast " - but as you will find diet is the most

important aspect of getting well, even for vaginal problems and

cystitis. But as my article suggests you will be more successful

starting on the diet first, changing one thing at a time, so you

don't overwhelm yourself or your body. Then continue adding steps

in the Candida Program one at a time. You can cure everything you

have, but it takes time, persistence and patience. Our bodies are

marvelous at healing but it needs to be given the right things to do

its job right.

> This scaring me a bit i decided to see my doctor. He prescriped

>some pills for me which i am to take for 4 weeks.

What kind of pills did you doctor give you?

>Since Atkins in it self cuts out a lot of the bad stuff i thougt it

>was easy to do this as > well. But now im kind of confused. The

>Atkins book states that the > things i should stay away from is the

>mushroom, vinegar, soy and all > kinds of nuts plus all the stuff

>you cant have on Atkins anyway > (flour, sugar, rice, pasta and so

>on)Asking a but around, surfing on the net i have found a lot of

> different info. > Are nuts ok after soaking?

Yes, nuts are ok after soaking, except peanuts and pastachios which

are loaded with fungus. See our files for proper soaking

instructions. Soaking removes the phytates coating nuts, grains and

seeds which block mineral absorption in the body. Minerals are the

building blocks necessary for the body in healing and building

muscle, bone, etc. and the immune system.

The candida diet I recommend does not allow any grains except very

small amounts of non-gluten grains such as buckwheat, brown rice and

millet.

> Are mozarella cheese, cream and sour cream allowed? The Atkins book

> says yes but on the net i found that all dairy is banned.

Candida sufferers do not do well on dairy products, except butter,

homemade yogurt and kefir. Dairy contains lactose (sugar) and and

the casein in it makes it very hard to digest, in addition to being

pasteurized. Homemade yogurt and kefir is fermented long enough to

remove most of the lactose (use only whole milk with full fat

content). Commercial products are still very high in lactose and

don't contain enough fat content to help break it down. Without the

fat content you will have problems digesting it.

> How about artificial sweeteners? I have a very real problem in that

> area if thats really not allowed. I turn into a world class big ass

> super bitch during my periods if i dont get something thats sweet.

You will find it easier to stop sugar cravings if you go off both

sugars, including artifical sweeteners, and also grains. Grains are

starches which act just like sugar in the body. If you can

eliminate them both in between periods for at least 5 days you will

find a difference in how you feel and it will lessen your cravings

for both of them as well.

Also taking extra Vitamin C helps stop sugar cravings. In fact

sugar and Vitamin C compete for entrance into the cells and if you

have more sugar Vitamin C cannot get into them, where it is very

much needed.

Some artificial sweeteners are also very damaging, i.e. nutrasweet

and aspartame change to wood alcohol in the body and causes a lot of

health problems.

> After just doing the diet-part of the anti-candida guide from the

> Atkins book i feel better but i still get the rashes on my body. I

> hate it so much. It smells SO bad. And it made me wonder - does

this > fungus infect more when i try to kill it as some kind of

defence? I> just think its weird that i get MORE outbreaks now that

before.

Rashes, smelling bad, gas, bloating, etc. are all part of the

healing process. When you got more outbreaks on the Atkins diet

it's a sign that your body is actively trying to heal itself. It is

getting rid of toxins, and at the same it also protecting more vital

internal organs.>

> I have experienced a but of the die-off i have read about. Feeling

> very tired somedays and i was close to fainting one day due to

> dizzyness. So i guess i am doing it right - or at least some of it?

Yes you certainly are doing some things right. Good for you. Don't

get discouraged. But check out the Candida diet recommended in my

article. You may find some things are different, and you may be

able to tweak your diet here and there to further assist your

healing.

> I think all this is really confusing. I would really like to get

rid > of all those infections and somehow it would have been easier

just > sticking with the Atkins book but if its not enough its not

enough.

See The Candida Diet in a Nutshell in the files for an easy

reference.

Keep us posted on how your are doing. We are here to help you.

The best in health,

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

The pills i got from my doctor is fluconazol. I have gotten them

before to help clear up a very bad and persistent attack of rashes on

my belly and under my breats. Cream just didnt work.

I see a lot of problems for me actually getting throug this. I am on

the pill. I havent been able to find any other method of birthcontrol

that suits me. And i have tried them all. Also i take cipramil which i

do not wish to stop taking. I will get really bad if i do. So

allready two things stand in my way.

Thanks for the soaking instructions. They are helpfull. Is almonds ok?

About the vitamin c. I allready take extra doses of that. Winter is

coming and since i allways get sick during this season i try to

prevent some of it with large doses of vitamin c.

I have been eating soy the past week. I thougt the book meant

soy-sauce so i have been avoiding that but not soy-flour. Now i will

avoid that too. So i guess i am kind of taking it step by step just

instead of following a plan i eliminate stuff when i find out its nok

ok to get it *g*

The amount of dairy i get is very small. Sourcream is only one time a

week or so and never very much. I use it for dressing so i dont get

totally bored with my saladveggies. The way i understand you cream is

kind of ok. Its very high in fats, it contains more fat than whole

milk. Also the atkins diet IS very high in fat itself so i think that,

that evens it out.

One huge problem is coffee. I LOVE coffee. I dont drink it for the

caffeine effect. I am currently on decaf since Atkins states caffeine

is bad. I dont drink it every day thoug. Its a treat i allow myself

2-3 times a week. Is it bad when its decaf? I am taking it with a bit

of cream.

What is kefir? Turkish youghurt? I LOVE that but too many carbs on

Atkins.

About AF. I dont get any grains on the Atkins diet so thats not a

problem. Aspartame, i get a tiny bit from soda once in a while. But

the letter i got from this group when joining states that Stevia is

ok. I have been told that Stevia is illegal in europe so i cant get

that. The letter states that some other AF doesnt directly feed

candida. Which ones are that? With my luck its probably not the stuff

i have in my kitchen *lol*

Its so nice to hear that the rashes i get are a sign its helping. I

think that for now i can not aim to get completely candida free - too

much going on in my life (bachelor project) but i will aim to do as

much of it as i can. And starting good habbits is better than nothing

i guess? And somehow its a bit like you say - do it in phases. I Just

do my own kind of phases *g*

Zuzzan

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanne,

Thanks for telling me about this place )

About the coconut oil. I am going in to get some books today

(hopefully - i need them to get started on my bachelor report) at the

book store i will try to get some coconut oil as well. I will try to

get some tee tree oil as well.

What does ENT mean? I too limit my dairy intake. Mostly now because

its high in carbs but as i said to bee. I do take a little cream in my

coffee and an on ocasion some sour cream for dressing.

Zuzzan

[Guest guest]

Hi Z

You're welcome. ENT is an Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor. I kept having sinus

infections and my regular doctor and allergist were stumped so they sent me to

an ENT. Of coursem, I know now it was the candida, too much antibiotics for

years and a mold allergy. Or maybe it was the candida in my body that was

showing up as a mold allergy on my tests? I don't know but I haven't had a

sinus infection for awhile and used to have one every 2 months it seemed.

You will find that the candida diet is pretty compatible with atkins except for

a few things and you will just have to modify those. All those carbs feed the

yeast anyway.

I am glad you like this group. Everyone is very helpful and supportive.

Jeanne

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Hi Jeanne,

Thanks for telling me about this place )

About the coconut oil. I am going in to get some books today

(hopefully - i need them to get started on my bachelor report) at the

book store i will try to get some coconut oil as well. I will try to

get some tee tree oil as well.

What does ENT mean? I too limit my dairy intake. Mostly now because

its high in carbs but as i said to bee. I do take a little cream in my

coffee and an on ocasion some sour cream for dressing.

Zuzzan

[Guest guest]

Hi Zuzzan,

" Zuzzan " <zannie@a...> wrote:

> The pills i got from my doctor is fluconazol. I have gotten them

> before to help clear up a very bad and persistent attack of rashes

>on my belly and under my breats. Cream just didnt work.

Fluconazol is an antifungal antibiotic which can be very hard on

your liver. Nystatin is not hard on the liver because it is non-

invasive, staying in the digestive tract, where most of the candida

overgrowth is. It is even safe for pregnant and nursing mothers.

When I had severe candida in the mid 1980s I was on the candida

program 2-1/2 years and took nystatin the entire time.

Natural antifungals are: raw garlic, oregano oil, Pau d'arco (tea

or tincture). Are you also taking probiotics, like acidophilus

lactobacilus?

> I see a lot of problems for me actually getting throug this. I am

>on the pill. I havent been able to find any other method of birth

>control that suits me. And i have tried them all.

Birth control pills are a problem but you may not have a choice.

You can do a lot with diet, and also help your body detoxify by

having enemas (coffee, nystatin, garlic, etc. - these are explained

in an article in our files too, and by taking chlorella or liquid

cholorophyll.

>Also i take cipramil which i> do not wish to stop taking.

What is cipramil for?

>I will get really bad if i do. So > allready two things stand in my

way.

You can still do quite a lot with diet, especially coconut oil which

is so healthy and also an antifungal. I think you can get well in

spite of taking birth control and cipramil but it may take more work

and discipline.

> Thanks for the soaking instructions. They are helpfull. Is almonds

ok?

Almonds are great. Always buy raw nuts (not roasted, which has bad

oils in them), kept in the fridge at the health food store. I drink

almond/egg milk frequently which is made in a blender (recipe under

drinks in our files).

> About the vitamin c. I allready take extra doses of that. Winter is

> coming and since i allways get sick during this season i try to

> prevent some of it with large doses of vitamin c.

Good for you! Whenever you have sugar cravings take 500 mgs.

> I have been eating soy the past week. I thougt the book meant

> soy-sauce so i have been avoiding that but not soy-flour. Now i

will > avoid that too. So i guess i am kind of taking it step by

step just> instead of following a plan i eliminate stuff when i find

out its nok> ok to get it *g*

That's great Zuzzan! There are substitute milk recipes in the files.

> The amount of dairy i get is very small. Sourcream is only one

time a> week or so and never very much. I use it for dressing so i

dont get> totally bored with my saladveggies. The way i understand

you cream is> kind of ok. Its very high in fats, it contains more

fat than whole> milk. Also the atkins diet IS very high in fat

itself so i think that,> that evens it out.

If the amount is small and you don't experience increased symptoms

that's good. You can make some delicious dressings for salads, and

also mayonaise (recipes in the files too), using extra virgin olive

oil and lemon juice.

> One huge problem is coffee. I LOVE coffee. I dont drink it for the

> caffeine effect. I am currently on decaf since Atkins states

caffeine> is bad. I dont drink it every day thoug. Its a treat i

allow myself> 2-3 times a week. Is it bad when its decaf? I am

taking it with a bit> of cream.

>Decaf coffee is okay - it should be Swiss Water Processed. Having

it with whipped cream is best because it is the highest in butter

fat.

> What is kefir?

Kefir is fermented milk similar to yogurt. It is thinner and a bit

more sour tasting.

>Turkish youghurt? I LOVE that but too many carbs on> Atkins.

I'm not familar with Turkish yogurt, but like I said the only yogurt

to have is homemade.

> About AF. I dont get any grains on the Atkins diet so thats not a

> problem. Aspartame, i get a tiny bit from soda once in a while.

Try to cut out the soda if you can.

>But> the letter i got from this group when joining states that

Stevia is> ok. I have been told that Stevia is illegal in europe so

i cant get> that. The letter states that some other AF doesnt

directly feed > candida. Which ones are that? With my luck its

probably not the stuff> i have in my kitchen *lol*

Any sweeteners increase your sweet tooth, stevia included, even

though it is safer to have (in small quantities). I can't remember

the name of another sweetener that is somewhat safe, but it starts

with an X - maybe someone else knows.

> Its so nice to hear that the rashes i get are a sign its helping. I

> think that for now i can not aim to get completely candida free -

too > much going on in my life (bachelor project) but i will aim to

do as> much of it as i can.

It is good to know what is going on with rashes and other symptoms,

isn't it? I feel you can still get rid of the candida but it will

take time (it takes one month of serious healing for every year

you've had it). What is your bachelor project about?

>And starting good habbits is better than nothing> i guess? And

>somehow its a bit like you say - do it in phases. I Just> do my own

kind of phases *g*

You go girl! The candida diet is so healthy it will set you up for

lifelong health. You've done a lot already towards taking charge of

your health.

The best to you,

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee

Too bad with the pills i get. If they work even i little i will

probably be able to get the other kind you write about. At least the

cure the rashes i have. I have just checked the prices and the pills

you write about are VERY expensive. Here in Denmark we get what is

cheapest when we go to the pharmacy if we dont tell them otherwise.

And i didnt know. I will get the other kind next time ) I am

probably going to have to bug my doctor like h... to get another

portion but so what. If they help they help.

I cant eat raw garlic - its too strong. I will it it cooked and i got

the advide to add it last in my cooking. I also use omega3 oils with

garlic added.

I am not taking any probiotics no.

About the birthcontrol pills - it is a real problem. Thinking back

that was when my problems started. I got bladder infection on bladder

infection, then fungus in my vagina and then i got sore throat

infections. The bladder infections were treated with Sulfa, the

throats with antibiotics and the fungus with creams or pills. I had

these things in a 6 month period of time in this order: Bladder

infection, throat infection, fungus, a week feeling ok and then it all

started over. I dont feel i have a choice in regard to the pills

thoug. I have as i wrote tried everything else and nothing suits me.

Either i bleed so heavily that i cant leave the house, bleed for

looooong periods of time or i get terrible pains during my menses.

Using a condom is just not me - i can hear it (probably crazy talk but

i can hear a rubbery kind of whissing sound when we use that) I have

never tried a diaphragme but the idea of " planning " my sexlive like

that and the idea of having to take it out in school ours because we

had a late night quicky and the thing has to sit there for hours

before removal - it just doesnt appeal to me. Im too fat for the patch

and the vaginal ring they just came up with. And so, my options are

all out.

Cipramil - ciprex. I dont know what its called for your guys but its

an antidepressant. I take it for a regular depression i suffered from

a few years back, now for winter depression and OCD. Stopping it would

mean hell returning to earth for me. It is possible that this change

in my diet will help with some of these issues but i will keep on

taking them untill my psychiatrist says otherwise.

I have purchased coconutoil. It says for external use only so eating

it is not an option. But using that on rashes instead of hard rock

ointments is better.

I love almonds. I am baking a cake tomorrow with almonds. Know i

shouldnt but its a planned thing. My dads bday and everyone else is

getting apple pie so i dont want to feel left out.

I will try the c-vit next time i get a craving. How long should i wait

before the effect sets in? Is i like half an hour like painkillers?

What is substitute milk? Is that like powdered milk? I think there are

many carbs in that too and i can " make " milk with cream and water )

When i say cream i allways mean whipped cream i think. Its the kind

that when whipped turns into foam. Coffee cream is the other kind - i

hate that. Its either heavy cream or skimmed milk for me. Dont know why.

> I'm not familar with Turkish yogurt, but like I said the only yogurt

> to have is homemade.

Turkish/greek youghurt is like a treat from heaven. Thick and fat and

with a bit of nuts and honey or fresh fruits its like eating heaven.

But as i said - too high in carbs right now. *sigh*

> Try to cut out the soda if you can.

I am trying. I havent had soda for 3 weeks the other day and then i

just couldnt stand it anymore. I had only had water and coffee for

three weeks so i had a glass of soda. I will go back to water and

coffee only after my dads bday.

My bachelor project is about children with psychiatric patients as

parents. Its a relatively taboo filled area here in Denmark so we

thougt we would look at it more.

Thanks for all the advice Bee )

Zuzzan

[Guest guest]

Hi Zuzzan,

I've been tied up the last few days visiting with my daughter who is

here from Ontario.

Zuzzan wrote:

> Too bad with the pills i get. If they work even i little i will

> probably be able to get the other kind you write about. At least the

> cure the rashes i have. I have just checked the prices and the pills

> you write about are VERY expensive.

==>See if you can get nystatin powder, not pills, and ensure it is

for internal use and not external use (there are two kinds).

> I cant eat raw garlic - its too strong. I will it it cooked and i

>got the advide to add it last in my cooking. I also use omega3 oils

>with garlic added.

==>What kind of Omega 3 oil is it?

> Cipramil - ciprex. I dont know what its called for your guys but its

> an antidepressant. I take it for a regular depression i suffered

>from a few years back, now for winter depression and OCD. Stopping

>it would mean hell returning to earth for me.

==>There are alternatives to taking antidepressants. I can't think

of them right now, remind me later, or maybe someone else can help.

> I will try the c-vit next time i get a craving. How long should i

>wait before the effect sets in? Is i like half an hour like

painkillers?

==>Take 500 mgs. up to 4,000 mgs. the 1st hour if you like. It won't

hurt you. Don't wait for the effect to set in.

> What is substitute milk? Is that like powdered milk? I think there

>are many carbs in that too and i can " make " milk with cream and

water )

===>Sustitute milks are homemade almond/egg milk egg milk, etc.

listed in our files. You can't buy them.

> Thanks for all the advice Bee )

==>You're very welcome. Take care.

Bee