Re: help me interpret my test results

June 1, 2004

Hi Kim --

Did they give you the lab ranges?

help me interpret my test results

Here is the results of my blood tests! i wish i had an endo cuz i have no idea

what this means!!

triiodothyronine Free 3.2

ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9

TSH (3rd generation) 5.6

anti-thyroglobulin AB 344

antithyroid peroxidase 528

I thought there would be a yes or no or neg or positive... can you guys help

me out.. ill look through the internet.. you guys are my dr's im sorry.. but my

insurance wont cover and endo and my intern says my thyroid is normal but i dont

think it is

June 1, 2004

Hi Kim,

In order to help you figure out the tests we'll need the lab ranges that the lab

used.

help me interpret my test results

>

> Here is the results of my blood tests! i wish i had an endo cuz i have

no idea what this means!!

>

> triiodothyronine Free 3.2

> ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9

> TSH (3rd generation) 5.6

> anti-thyroglobulin AB 344

> antithyroid peroxidase 528

>

> I thought there would be a yes or no or neg or positive... can you guys

help me out.. ill look through the internet.. you guys are my dr's im

sorry.. but my insurance wont cover and endo and my intern says my thyroid

is normal but i dont think it is

>

June 1, 2004

yea.. the tsh, and the two anti tests were out of normal range

help me interpret my test results

>

> Here is the results of my blood tests! i wish i had an endo cuz i have

no idea what this means!!

>

> triiodothyronine Free 3.2

> ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9

> TSH (3rd generation) 5.6

> anti-thyroglobulin AB 344

> antithyroid peroxidase 528

>

> I thought there would be a yes or no or neg or positive... can you guys

help me out.. ill look through the internet.. you guys are my dr's im

sorry.. but my insurance wont cover and endo and my intern says my thyroid

is normal but i dont think it is

>

June 1, 2004

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/index.html

> Here is the results of my blood tests! i wish i had an endo cuz i

have no idea what this means!!

>

> triiodothyronine Free 3.2

> ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9

> TSH (3rd generation) 5.6

> anti-thyroglobulin AB 344

> antithyroid peroxidase 528

>

> I thought there would be a yes or no or neg or positive... can you

guys help me out.. ill look through the internet.. you guys are my

dr's im sorry.. but my insurance wont cover and endo and my intern

says my thyroid is normal but i dont think it is

>

June 1, 2004

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/conditions/hashimoto.html

> http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/index.html

>

June 1, 2004

ok (ranges in parenthesis)

triiodothyronine Free 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9 (.8-1.8)

TSH (3rd generation) 5.6 (.35-5.0)

anti-thyroglobulin AB 344 (<40)

antithyroid peroxidase 528 (<35)

just called careoregon and they refused to lsit specialists for me. called

internal dr and he refused without an appt so i go thursday which is stupid

since he doesnt know the ranges. I argued with the nurse about the new range

and she was like NO ours is 5.5 and they prob measure it differently at

different labs so i cut off her arguing and was like well whatever anyway my

anti's are high. Hard to argue when both parties think they are right. ill

make a copy of that aase or whatever it is nad take that in thursday also.

its all pretty pointless since no endo is taking patients which is why i

called my insurance to see if any opened up which the pain in the butt

refused tot ell me but its my darned insurance!)

June 1, 2004

your tsh and ft4 look like mine and I have hoshi's....

of course I'm no expert, but then again I guess we can say that for most of

these docs too.

arrgh! good luck!

June 1, 2004

I'm having brain fog, but doesn't this indicate hashimoto's????

----Original Message Follows----

From: " Girlie " <kckim@...>

Reply-hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: help me interpret my test results

Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 16:18:47 -0700

ok (ranges in parenthesis)

triiodothyronine Free 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9 (.8-1.8)

TSH (3rd generation) 5.6 (.35-5.0)

anti-thyroglobulin AB 344 (<40)

antithyroid peroxidase 528 (<35)

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June 1, 2004

your doc is a dangerous boob (sorry to insult boobs). Tell him " you're

fired! "

Gracia

... you guys are my

> dr's im sorry.. but my insurance wont cover and endo and my intern

> says my thyroid is normal but i dont think it is

> >

June 1, 2004

I would say that it does. You have a high TSH in the diagnostic range and you

have high antibody levels.

K a r e n P <karlynn17@...> wrote:I'm having brain fog, but doesn't this

indicate hashimoto's????

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From: " Girlie "

Reply-hypothyroidism

To:

Subject: Re: help me interpret my test results

Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 16:18:47 -0700

ok (ranges in parenthesis)

triiodothyronine Free 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9 (.8-1.8)

TSH (3rd generation) 5.6 (.35-5.0)

anti-thyroglobulin AB 344 (<40)

antithyroid peroxidase 528 (<35)

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June 1, 2004

i dunno i have brain fog too they told me fibro so i did my own tests

Re: help me interpret my test results

> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 16:18:47 -0700

>

> ok (ranges in parenthesis)

>

> triiodothyronine Free 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

> ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9 (.8-1.8)

> TSH (3rd generation) 5.6 (.35-5.0)

> anti-thyroglobulin AB 344 (<40)

> antithyroid peroxidase 528 (<35)

>

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>

June 1, 2004

lololololol... cuz it was a miracle i got him with my insurance would be 4

months to change docs IF they let me.. ive decided all docs are boobs...

hopefully i can convince him to give me a referel

Re: Re: help me interpret my test results

>

> your doc is a dangerous boob (sorry to insult boobs). Tell him " you're

> fired! "

> Gracia

>

> .. you guys are my

> > dr's im sorry.. but my insurance wont cover and endo and my intern

> > says my thyroid is normal but i dont think it is

> > >

June 1, 2004

is tehre something else i have to do to prove i have hashis?

Re: help me interpret my test results

> your tsh and ft4 look like mine and I have hoshi's....

> of course I'm no expert, but then again I guess we can say that for most

of these docs too.

> arrgh! good luck!

>

June 1, 2004

from my own daughters lab results any anti-body number over a 2 for

peroxidase and a 4 for thyrogloublin indicates hashi's or the

beginings of auto-immune. And what this means to your idiot doctors

is that your antibodies are attacking your thyroid. Also a tsh should

be between 1 and 2 not up to 5 ( that is the very old numbers) and

yours is over 5---according to these numbers you do have hashimoto's

thyroid---and what that means is you must do whatever it takes to

increase your immune system and the only way to do that is with the

proper food, nutrients and sleep!!!!

> ok (ranges in parenthesis)

>

> triiodothyronine Free 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

> ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9 (.8-1.8)

> TSH (3rd generation) 5.6 (.35-5.0)

> anti-thyroglobulin AB 344 (<40)

> antithyroid peroxidase 528 (<35)

>

> just called careoregon and they refused to lsit specialists for me.

called

> internal dr and he refused without an appt so i go thursday which

is stupid

> since he doesnt know the ranges. I argued with the nurse about the

new range

> and she was like NO ours is 5.5 and they prob measure it

differently at

> different labs so i cut off her arguing and was like well whatever

anyway my

> anti's are high. Hard to argue when both parties think they are

right. ill

> make a copy of that aase or whatever it is nad take that in

thursday also.

> its all pretty pointless since no endo is taking patients which is

why i

> called my insurance to see if any opened up which the pain in the

butt

> refused tot ell me but its my darned insurance!)

June 2, 2004

no, your thyroid is NOT normal!!! You have Hashimoto's disease according to lab

results. Wonder if you also have celiac disease. Hashi's is an autoimmune

disease. if you have one autoimmune disease, your are much more likely to

develop another.

take care..leaving for vacation in a few hours. gotta run. we will have laptop

with us & will keep up while on vacation...talk to you maybe tomorrow night.

hugs, sheila

Girlie <kckim@...> wrote:

Here is the results of my blood tests! i wish i had an endo cuz i have no idea

what this means!!

triiodothyronine Free 3.2

ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9

TSH (3rd generation) 5.6

anti-thyroglobulin AB 344

antithyroid peroxidase 528

I thought there would be a yes or no or neg or positive... can you guys help me

out.. ill look through the internet.. you guys are my dr's im sorry.. but my

insurance wont cover and endo and my intern says my thyroid is normal but i dont

think it is

June 2, 2004

Once on meds, all of us feel better with an undetectable TSH, definately

under 1, so most of us don't do the TSH.

Gracia

Also a tsh should

> be between 1 and 2 not up to 5 ( that is the very old numbers) and

> yours is over 5---according to these numbers you do have hashimoto's

> thyroid---and what that means is you must do whatever it takes to

> increase your immune system and the only way to do that is with the

> proper food, nutrients and sleep!!!!

>

> > ok (ranges in parenthesis)

> >

> > triiodothyronine Free 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

> > ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9 (.8-1.8)

> > TSH (3rd generation) 5.6 (.35-5.0)

> > anti-thyroglobulin AB 344 (<40)

> > antithyroid peroxidase 528 (<35)

> >

> > just called careoregon and they refused to lsit specialists for me.

> called

> > internal dr and he refused without an appt so i go thursday which

> is stupid

> > since he doesnt know the ranges. I argued with the nurse about the

> new range

> > and she was like NO ours is 5.5 and they prob measure it

> differently at

> > different labs so i cut off her arguing and was like well whatever

> anyway my

> > anti's are high. Hard to argue when both parties think they are

> right. ill

> > make a copy of that aase or whatever it is nad take that in

> thursday also.

> > its all pretty pointless since no endo is taking patients which is

> why i

> > called my insurance to see if any opened up which the pain in the

> butt

> > refused tot ell me but its my darned insurance!)

>

June 2, 2004

yes--find a competent doc who will care if you are well, not what you can

prove.

Gracia

> is tehre something else i have to do to prove i have hashis?

>

June 2, 2004

*hugs to everyone * I appreciate you guys responding so much!!!! thank

you!.. yes i have been diagnosed with fibro (prob justthyroid) my back

sciatica nerve is out which no dr cares about but puts me in bed for days

and hard to walk and i have bladder inflmation which may also be auto immune

(interstitical cystitis) which ive been taking quercetin for which helps a

tiny bit in the thought maybe my bladder is attacking itself... omg it would

be a god send if armour took away my bladder pain!! every part of my body

is inflamed.. im only 28 and cant get out of bed oh yea and my intestiens

are severely inflammed.. its pathetic how i live and ive thot many times of

ending it..whats the point, right? i am a bit pissed that i have had this

for prob 15 years and i ahd to pay for my own damned test to figure this out

myself.

Re: help me interpret my test results

> no, your thyroid is NOT normal!!! You have Hashimoto's disease according

to lab results. Wonder if you also have celiac disease. Hashi's is an

autoimmune disease. if you have one autoimmune disease, your are much more

likely to develop another.

>

> take care..leaving for vacation in a few hours. gotta run. we will have

laptop with us & will keep up while on vacation...talk to you maybe tomorrow

night. hugs, sheila

>

> Girlie <kckim@...> wrote:

> Here is the results of my blood tests! i wish i had an endo cuz i have no

idea what this means!!

>

> triiodothyronine Free 3.2

> ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9

> TSH (3rd generation) 5.6

> anti-thyroglobulin AB 344

> antithyroid peroxidase 528

>

> I thought there would be a yes or no or neg or positive... can you guys

help me out.. ill look through the internet.. you guys are my dr's im

sorry.. but my insurance wont cover and endo and my intern says my thyroid

is normal but i dont think it is

>

June 2, 2004

I agree but the tsh is about the only thing most doctors will test

before meds are prescribed--and anything over 3 should not be

disguarded as non-thyroid. Gee most people feel sick over 2. We have

all said this many times over that doctors need to see symptoms as

the cause for disease and not tests.

they totally do not understand tsh, especially with adrenal problems--

low tsh test with adrenals shows decreased thyroid stimulating

hormone in response to the decreased amount of adrenal hormone being

produced---they work together not seperate.

> > > ok (ranges in parenthesis)

> > >

> > > triiodothyronine Free 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

> > > ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9 (.8-1.8)

> > > TSH (3rd generation) 5.6 (.35-5.0)

> > > anti-thyroglobulin AB 344 (<40)

> > > antithyroid peroxidase 528 (<35)

> > >

> > > just called careoregon and they refused to lsit specialists for

me.

> > called

> > > internal dr and he refused without an appt so i go thursday

which

> > is stupid

> > > since he doesnt know the ranges. I argued with the nurse about

the

> > new range

> > > and she was like NO ours is 5.5 and they prob measure it

> > differently at

> > > different labs so i cut off her arguing and was like well

whatever

> > anyway my

> > > anti's are high. Hard to argue when both parties think they are

> > right. ill

> > > make a copy of that aase or whatever it is nad take that in

> > thursday also.

> > > its all pretty pointless since no endo is taking patients which

is

> > why i

> > > called my insurance to see if any opened up which the pain in

the

> > butt

> > > refused tot ell me but its my darned insurance!)

> >

June 2, 2004

You are not alone the majority of the posters have had to not only

test themselves but treat themselves--this is typical response for

this disease!!!! So you are in good company!!!! you know many of our

readings state that fibro is adrenal/thryoid problems---getting on

the right meds will do wonders for you!!!! but you must take them

everyday---not just a few here and there--you must make up a schedule

and do it every day!!!!!!! It's takes a long time to get better---

some have said to me the longer I had the disease the longer it took

to get well. And this is ususally for life once you have so many

other diseases--some do go into remission with Hashi's and some beat

it--but you must take your medication, vitamins, supplements!!! Your

body needs all of it to work!!!!!

I no longer have leg pain or heal pain---just from one thyroid

glandular a day--it's great not to be in pain!!!!

- In hypothyroidism , " Girlie " <kckim@c...> wrote:

> *hugs to everyone * I appreciate you guys responding so much!!!!

thank

> you!.. yes i have been diagnosed with fibro (prob justthyroid) my

back

> sciatica nerve is out which no dr cares about but puts me in bed

for days

> and hard to walk and i have bladder inflmation which may also be

auto immune

> (interstitical cystitis) which ive been taking quercetin for which

helps a

> tiny bit in the thought maybe my bladder is attacking itself... omg

it would

> be a god send if armour took away my bladder pain!! every part of

my body

> is inflamed.. im only 28 and cant get out of bed oh yea and my

intestiens

> are severely inflammed.. its pathetic how i live and ive thot many

times of

> ending it..whats the point, right? i am a bit pissed that i have

had this

> for prob 15 years and i ahd to pay for my own damned test to figure

this out

> myself.

>

> Re: help me interpret my test results

>

> > no, your thyroid is NOT normal!!! You have Hashimoto's disease

according

> to lab results. Wonder if you also have celiac disease. Hashi's is

an

> autoimmune disease. if you have one autoimmune disease, your are

much more

> likely to develop another.

> >

> > take care..leaving for vacation in a few hours. gotta run. we

will have

> laptop with us & will keep up while on vacation...talk to you maybe

tomorrow

> night. hugs, sheila

> >

> > Girlie <kckim@c...> wrote:

> > Here is the results of my blood tests! i wish i had an endo cuz i

have no

> idea what this means!!

> >

> > triiodothyronine Free 3.2

> > ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9

> > TSH (3rd generation) 5.6

> > anti-thyroglobulin AB 344

> > antithyroid peroxidase 528

> >

> > I thought there would be a yes or no or neg or positive... can

you guys

> help me out.. ill look through the internet.. you guys are my dr's

im

> sorry.. but my insurance wont cover and endo and my intern says my

thyroid

> is normal but i dont think it is

> >

June 2, 2004

Amen. we now know more here than most doctors.

Gracia

> I agree but the tsh is about the only thing most doctors will test

> before meds are prescribed--and anything over 3 should not be

> disguarded as non-thyroid. Gee most people feel sick over 2. We have

> all said this many times over that doctors need to see symptoms as

> the cause for disease and not tests.

>

> they totally do not understand tsh, especially with adrenal problems--

> low tsh test with adrenals shows decreased thyroid stimulating

> hormone in response to the decreased amount of adrenal hormone being

> produced---they work together not seperate.

>

> > > > ok (ranges in parenthesis)

> > > >

> > > > triiodothyronine Free 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

> > > > ft4 Free thyroxine 0.9 (.8-1.8)

> > > > TSH (3rd generation) 5.6 (.35-5.0)

> > > > anti-thyroglobulin AB 344 (<40)

> > > > antithyroid peroxidase 528 (<35)

> > > >

> > > > just called careoregon and they refused to lsit specialists for

> me.

> > > called

> > > > internal dr and he refused without an appt so i go thursday

> which

> > > is stupid

> > > > since he doesnt know the ranges. I argued with the nurse about

> the

> > > new range

> > > > and she was like NO ours is 5.5 and they prob measure it

> > > differently at

> > > > different labs so i cut off her arguing and was like well

> whatever

> > > anyway my

> > > > anti's are high. Hard to argue when both parties think they are

> > > right. ill

> > > > make a copy of that aase or whatever it is nad take that in

> > > thursday also.

> > > > its all pretty pointless since no endo is taking patients which

> is

> > > why i

> > > > called my insurance to see if any opened up which the pain in

> the

> > > butt

> > > > refused tot ell me but its my darned insurance!)

> > >

June 3, 2004

nothing else to do...plain and simple, the tests show that you do have Hashi's.

that's all you need is that antibody test. hugs, sheila

Girlie <kckim@...> wrote:is tehre something else i have to do to prove i

have hashis?

Re: help me interpret my test results

> your tsh and ft4 look like mine and I have hoshi's....

> of course I'm no expert, but then again I guess we can say that for most

of these docs too.

> arrgh! good luck!

>

June 3, 2004

hi kim, you have every right to be angry. i understand why you're so

upset...that it took so long to find out. and yes, you probably have had Hashi's

for over a decade. now you just need some Armour!!!

my mom and dad drove us to see the the longest waterfall in KY. you know how bad

my mom has been with her messed up thyroid problems...i'm so happy she was able

to go hiking with us today...she's so much better...just hoping and praying

things continue to go well for her.

Hopefully your recovery, with these labs and subsequent diagnosis, will begin

really soon!