Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Really good advice, and I would add adrenal hormones too, which help to force viruses out of cells. Gracia > I understand your need to complain--but you know what to take to get > better--get back on the armour--it has NO side effects compared to > the synthroid and it has other hormones that you need--all the t's. > > And for the hep C---posted twice how to beat that--tritate upward on > vitamin C for a year---that is what that one poster did and he does > not have it now. Why wait to die?? when you have the answers!!!!! > > Take C with food and drink a lot of water for your liver!!! there is > no reason to live with this!!!! Start out with 3 grams a day and > increase until you hit the bathroom, than you know that is your dose > for the day---could be 4 grams or 6, or any number--your body will > tell you the correct dose. Then take it with every meal---always with > food and water!!! > > try it and see if you don't feel better in a week?? you will!!!! and > get back on armour--it's better for your liver!!!! > > tina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Thanks alot for your input here! I bought some isocort awhile back, but Dr. does not want me to take anything but the minimum amount of synthroid for now. My biopsy is tomorrow, not looking forward to it... I was contacted by the Health department where I live and the director of infectious disease talked with me for quite awhile. Unfortunately she had very little information for me, and I was quite frustrated afterward....I asked questions, no one had asked her! so, she wrote them down, and said she would get back to me...and that the local support group leader would contact me soon. What a nightmare! I have read about a couple of people getting past this with Vit C....but only a couple. If it were that easy, wouldn't everyone do it? I have alot more research to do! The Blood Shield laws in my state, protect those who deal in collected blood, so, there is no one to sue.... Legislation was passed in 1965 that changed blood products into " services " rather than " goods " or products, removing the defective product liability issue. You cannot sue for defective services, as there is no means to prove it. What a crock. It was hurried thru both houses without notification to the consumer protection agencies... Amazing. Someone knew this was going to be a problem sooner or later. All other states followed suit... I will keep ya posted! Chriss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hi Chriss, I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers...hang in there. I'm sorry for what you're going through. It really sucks. wishing you love, laughter, and peace, sheila Aprilcupcake@... wrote: Thanks alot for your input here! I bought some isocort awhile back, but Dr. does not want me to take anything but the minimum amount of synthroid for now. My biopsy is tomorrow, not looking forward to it... I was contacted by the Health department where I live and the director of infectious disease talked with me for quite awhile. Unfortunately she had very little information for me, and I was quite frustrated afterward....I asked questions, no one had asked her! so, she wrote them down, and said she would get back to me...and that the local support group leader would contact me soon. What a nightmare! I have read about a couple of people getting past this with Vit C....but only a couple. If it were that easy, wouldn't everyone do it? I have alot more research to do! The Blood Shield laws in my state, protect those who deal in collected blood, so, there is no one to sue.... Legislation was passed in 1965 that changed blood products into " services " rather than " goods " or products, removing the defective product liability issue. You cannot sue for defective services, as there is no means to prove it. What a crock. It was hurried thru both houses without notification to the consumer protection agencies... Amazing. Someone knew this was going to be a problem sooner or later. All other states followed suit... I will keep ya posted! Chriss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Certainly your doctor knows best.....or???????? what is the big deal about trying vitamin C and isocort???? Gracia > Thanks alot for your input here! > I bought some isocort awhile back, but Dr. does not want > me to take anything but the minimum amount of synthroid for now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Had my first appt at the University here in Denver.... The first thing the doctor wanted to do was establish what genotype my virus is... There is genotype 1-10! 1,2 and 3 are most commonly found in the US. Type one is very resistant to treatment. Type 2 and 3 have an 80% successful treatment possibility. Treatment consists of extremely expensive medications administered over a 48 week period... I can expect to be very ill in the meantime. As I do not have insurance, they will give me price breaks for self pay...otherwise I can enroll in a State funded program that will supply medication at no cost, but I will have to go to a different doc who is NOT a specialist...I will administer the drugs myself, and not really be monitored for side effects as I would if I stayed within the hospitals program. Today they took blood to determine genotype and " viral-load " . This will tell me weather or not I am a good candidate for treatment. She would like to do an ultrasound as well, and that will cost 860.00 for self pay or (1800.00) for insured patients. I have to fast for 24hrs, so I couldnt do it today while I was there. A biopsy will tell her the extent of the damage, if any and how well I can expect to tollerate the treament. That will be around 2200.00, my cost. I can enter into a treatment program without one, but if I go to the other funded clinic, they will do one anyway at NO cost to me. It's all pretty stupid if you ask me. Given my medical history she is setting my exposure date at 1976. So, I have had this for 26yrs. All of my children and my spouse need to be tested now as well. There is a 5% chance of passing it to children and a less than 3% chance that my spouse has contracted it via sex. He is sooooooo mad at me. Like I did this to myself or something...how could I have known? According to her and the way the disease progresses, I am about due to have significant metabolic disturbances. DUH...that explains the thyroid #$%^. I had an elevated enzyme test back in 2000 as well. but nothing came of it. I would love to have those four years back. From here I can expect to deal with the symptoms I have now to varying degrees, if left untreated.... I can hardly get anything done without taking a nap in between chores. I sure don't want to do this for any length of time. I have alot of things to think about I guess....then there is all of the stuff I see on the internet...and she advises me to stay away from the internet, she says its full fo misleading, dangerous information. What does one believe? The girl that drew my blood today wasnt wearing gloves either! can you believe that? You would think that they would be especially wary, considering the environment they are working in. I read on Dr Mercola's website how the Hep C virus has never even been seen under the electron microscope, and the virus has never been extracted whole... So, how can they determine " viral-load " of something they cant even see? Too strange.... I also have to get vaccinated for A, and B and the flu, asap.... what a drag. The saga continues.... Thanks again for everything, all of the links and info! You are great... Chriss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Her explanation was that, I should not do anything to further stress my liver, it obviously isn't working optimally. So less is more basically. I would think if I was really in trouble, that my other numbers would be bad...albumin etc.... all of it is perfectly normal, and never had any jaundice. So, I don't think a little adrenal and vit c would hurt. I can always stop if I feel sick. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Thanks alot! I appreciate all of the good vibes... I will keep ya posted on what is to come. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hang in there Kiddo,, every bodies pulling for ya , Re: Re: too tired. Thanks alot! I appreciate all of the good vibes... I will keep ya posted on what is to come. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Wow, that's a lot to digest and being as tired as you are it must be very difficult to try to figure out which road to take -- shesh! Please take good care of yourself and don't blame yourself -- boy your ex sounds like a real winner -- ugh! I'll keep my fingers & toes crossed that you have the type that has a good successful treatment possibility. When do you get the results Chris? I'll keep you and your kids in my thoughts & prayers -- take care & keep us posted, Re: Re: too tired. Had my first appt at the University here in Denver.... The first thing the doctor wanted to do was establish what genotype my virus is... There is genotype 1-10! 1,2 and 3 are most commonly found in the US. Type one is very resistant to treatment. Type 2 and 3 have an 80% successful treatment possibility. Treatment consists of extremely expensive medications administered over a 48 week period... I can expect to be very ill in the meantime. As I do not have insurance, they will give me price breaks for self pay...otherwise I can enroll in a State funded program that will supply medication at no cost, but I will have to go to a different doc who is NOT a specialist...I will administer the drugs myself, and not really be monitored for side effects as I would if I stayed within the hospitals program. Today they took blood to determine genotype and " viral-load " . This will tell me weather or not I am a good candidate for treatment. She would like to do an ultrasound as well, and that will cost 860.00 for self pay or (1800.00) for insured patients. I have to fast for 24hrs, so I couldnt do it today while I was there. A biopsy will tell her the extent of the damage, if any and how well I can expect to tollerate the treament. That will be around 2200.00, my cost. I can enter into a treatment program without one, but if I go to the other funded clinic, they will do one anyway at NO cost to me. It's all pretty stupid if you ask me. Given my medical history she is setting my exposure date at 1976. So, I have had this for 26yrs. All of my children and my spouse need to be tested now as well. There is a 5% chance of passing it to children and a less than 3% chance that my spouse has contracted it via sex. He is sooooooo mad at me. Like I did this to myself or something...how could I have known? According to her and the way the disease progresses, I am about due to have significant metabolic disturbances. DUH...that explains the thyroid #$%^. I had an elevated enzyme test back in 2000 as well. but nothing came of it. I would love to have those four years back. From here I can expect to deal with the symptoms I have now to varying degrees, if left untreated.... I can hardly get anything done without taking a nap in between chores. I sure don't want to do this for any length of time. I have alot of things to think about I guess....then there is all of the stuff I see on the internet...and she advises me to stay away from the internet, she says its full fo misleading, dangerous information. What does one believe? The girl that drew my blood today wasnt wearing gloves either! can you believe that? You would think that they would be especially wary, considering the environment they are working in. I read on Dr Mercola's website how the Hep C virus has never even been seen under the electron microscope, and the virus has never been extracted whole... So, how can they determine " viral-load " of something they cant even see? Too strange.... I also have to get vaccinated for A, and B and the flu, asap.... what a drag. The saga continues.... Thanks again for everything, all of the links and info! You are great... Chriss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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