Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 > hello, does anyone know where I can find a complete list of goitrogenic foods. I did a google search and some lists have some foods that others don't have. Is asparagus a goitrogenic food?>> I copied a list awhile back - I can't remember where I got it from (probably at about.com). But someone put it together because it's such a common question. Unfortunately, asparagus is on this list!. A good source for info on all things thyroid is thyroidmanager.org. Following is a quote from that source: " A number of compounds have the ability to inhibit thyroid hormone synthesis. Irrespective of their mechanism of action, they are collectively called goitrogens, because as a result of a decrease in serum thyroid hormone level, TSH secretion is enhanced, causing goiter formation. Some goitrogens occur naturally in food, and others are in drugs with goitrogenic side effects. " Some thoughts: 1. If you have a partially functioning thyroid and are taking supplemental thyroid meds, most goitrogenic foods need to be eaten cooked not raw (steamed is fine) and in moderation. 2. Millet has an increase in goitrogenic activity by cooking. 3. If your thyroid gland is still hanging around, there may be some functioning going on, even if undetectable, so go with the above statement. 4. If you have had a total thyroidectomy and don't have a thyroid, most goitrogenic compounds won't have an effect on you. 5. Soy has other effects on thyroid hormone utilization besides the actual thyroid hormone production and is best avoided by all thyroiders. 6. Raw Brazil nuts and cashews are acceptable. Brazil nuts are a good source of selenium (2 per day). Walnuts should be separated from thyroid meds by at least 4 hours (Unthroid patient insert). 7. Goitrogens -- The List, A Work in Progress This list has some items that are not agreed on by all sources. Moderation is the key (except for soy) and this list is NOT a list of " forbidden foods " . The best rule is to " listen to your body " . If you eat a food and it makes you feel fatigued, avoid it in the future. Again, if you have a question about a particular item, do a google.com search for " goitrogens " or " goitrogenic foods " to clarify. So, here's the list of foods that it is SUGGESTED should be eaten cooked and in moderation, unless otherwise noted to avoid it entirely: Almonds Asparagus Babassu (a palm-tree coconut fruit popular in Brazil and Africa) Bamboo shoots Bok choy Broccoli Brussels sprouts Cabbage Cauliflower Chick peas (garbanzos) Flaxseed (this is up for debate, do a google.com search) Garlic Groundnuts Herbs of the Barbarea and Residea families Horseradish Kale Kohlrabi Leafy greens (turnip greens, mustard greens, collard greens) Legumes (beans and peas) Lima beans Linseed Maize Millet (cooking seems to INCREASE goitrogenic effect) Mustard greens Nectarines Onion Peaches Peanuts (roasted are probably okay) Pears Pine nuts (pignoli) Processed meats Radishes Rapeseed (oil) - from which canola is derived Rutabaga Spinach SOY in all it's various forms -- AVOID Strawberries Swede Sweet potatoes Swiss chard Turnip greens White turnip Wasabi Watercress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Funny since the fella who cured his Hashi ( how i cured my hashi, book fame) used garlic as one of the main ingredients of his recovery. I use it also. " lil2du <lil2du@...> " <lil2du@...> wrote: > hello, does anyone know where I can find a complete list of goitrogenic foods. I did a google search and some lists have some foods that others don't have. Is asparagus a goitrogenic food?>> I copied a list awhile back - I can't remember where I got it from (probably at about.com). But someone put it together because it's such a common question. Unfortunately, asparagus is on this list!. A good source for info on all things thyroid is thyroidmanager.org. Following is a quote from that source: " A number of compounds have the ability to inhibit thyroid hormone synthesis. Irrespective of their mechanism of action, they are collectively called goitrogens, because as a result of a decrease in serum thyroid hormone level, TSH secretion is enhanced, causing goiter formation. Some goitrogens occur naturally in food, and others are in drugs with goitrogenic side effects. " Some thoughts: 1. If you have a partially functioning thyroid and are taking supplemental thyroid meds, most goitrogenic foods need to be eaten cooked not raw (steamed is fine) and in moderation. 2. Millet has an increase in goitrogenic activity by cooking. 3. If your thyroid gland is still hanging around, there may be some functioning going on, even if undetectable, so go with the above statement. 4. If you have had a total thyroidectomy and don't have a thyroid, most goitrogenic compounds won't have an effect on you. 5. Soy has other effects on thyroid hormone utilization besides the actual thyroid hormone production and is best avoided by all thyroiders. 6. Raw Brazil nuts and cashews are acceptable. Brazil nuts are a good source of selenium (2 per day). Walnuts should be separated from thyroid meds by at least 4 hours (Unthroid patient insert). 7. Goitrogens -- The List, A Work in Progress This list has some items that are not agreed on by all sources. Moderation is the key (except for soy) and this list is NOT a list of " forbidden foods " . The best rule is to " listen to your body " . If you eat a food and it makes you feel fatigued, avoid it in the future. Again, if you have a question about a particular item, do a google.com search for " goitrogens " or " goitrogenic foods " to clarify. So, here's the list of foods that it is SUGGESTED should be eaten cooked and in moderation, unless otherwise noted to avoid it entirely: Almonds Asparagus Babassu (a palm-tree coconut fruit popular in Brazil and Africa) Bamboo shoots Bok choy Broccoli Brussels sprouts Cabbage Cauliflower Chick peas (garbanzos) Flaxseed (this is up for debate, do a google.com search) Garlic Groundnuts Herbs of the Barbarea and Residea families Horseradish Kale Kohlrabi Leafy greens (turnip greens, mustard greens, collard greens) Legumes (beans and peas) Lima beans Linseed Maize Millet (cooking seems to INCREASE goitrogenic effect) Mustard greens Nectarines Onion Peaches Peanuts (roasted are probably okay) Pears Pine nuts (pignoli) Processed meats Radishes Rapeseed (oil) - from which canola is derived Rutabaga Spinach SOY in all it's various forms -- AVOID Strawberries Swede Sweet potatoes Swiss chard Turnip greens White turnip Wasabi Watercress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 I cannot say that I am happy that all these foods are goitrogenic, but I am going to try to eliminate them all and then try one at a time and see what happens. > I know that these foods are not " forbidden " ; I just want to feel as good as possible. Since I started to treat my hypothyroidism I came a long way--(I could hardly walk, talk,think, lost my hair, etc.)-- and I got so much better, because I avoided the foods on the list I had-- most of the time, anyway. Of course, I do other things, like supplements, herbs, exercising, etc... > Ingrid>> I've gotten a lot better too by watching my diet and taking supplements and herbs. Many of the foods on the list are my favorites. Someone mentioned that they consume garlic and I do too - I believe in garlics healing value. Many of the other foods I still eat. I find it hard to believe in the subtle reactions, such as tiredness. I never know if the tiredness I feel is the result of foods I've eaten or other factors. It's tiring just thinking about it!. I'm betting that much of thyroid stuff is allergy related or food intolerance related. Many people with thyroid problems seem to have digestion problems or related problems - celiac disease, gallbladder, liver problems etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Hi, here's some info about goitrogenic foods. http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/001178.cfm Goitrogenic foods contain substances that decrease thyroid hormone production. Examples of these foods are rutabagas, cabbage, soybeans, peanuts, peaches, strawberries, spinach, and radishes. Drugs include lithium, cobalt, iodides, phenylbutazone, and others. http://thyroid.about.com/cs/drugdatabase/f/goitrogen.htm http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/thyroid-drug-faq.htm http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/losingweight.htm you can do a google search and get a lot more info about it. Hugs, sheila Kim <kckim@...> wrote: I do not know what a goitrin is.. its funn i was a vegetarian for 12 years most all my youth.. and loved tofu...thing is i dont ahve time for this!!! i have an important date in 6 months ( i am well disciplined and eat only 900 calories a day i tried 1200 but i was only losing like 3 pounds a month and at that rate it would take me till im dead to not be obese ( Re: this is a lil odd > what lynda said is a definite possibility. you can take your thyroid medicine every day but if you're consuming too much soy, then your medicine may not be able to work the way it should. soy DOES interfere with thyroid medication. > > Here's some links so you can check it out for yourself: > > http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/index.htm > > http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/soytest.htm > > I used to consume so much soy it wasn't funny. I was vegetarian most of my life. I'm sure it contributed to my thyroid problems. > > i would suggest you work with a nutritionist or dietician who will look at your health issues, as well as your personal likes and dislike, in order to help you find a healthy way of eating which would promote weight loss. I don't know what your story is, but I hear some desperation to lose voice, and I certainly understand that. I've been there. > > I went to a dietician/nutritionist years ago, and she helped me more than I can possibly say. Most doctors don't know beans about nutrition; most of them don't even take one class in college on nutrition. My doctors had me on 800-1000 calorie diets. My nutritionist said that was WAY not enough energy for me; it was throwing my body into starvation mode so I couldn't lose weight. > > After years of being desperate to lose weight, I finally decided to trust someone-this nutritionist. I went from 300 pounds to 135 pounds. Granted, I don't think i had a thyroid problem at this time. but after years of struggling to lose weight, it finally happened. She showed me a way i could eat healthy and not be hungry. > > Having a thyroid problem can make things a little trickier, in my opinion. There are certain foods we should avoid: soy and other goitrens (are you aware of them?). many of us on this forum struggle with losing weight because of our thyroid problem. I think that's all the more reason to seek the professional help of a dietician. > > I saw mine at the local health department because I was in college and couldn't afford anyone else. it cost me like a buck or two every time i saw her, and it was worth every penny (and more!). > > Anyway, that's my two cents. all i can say is it worked for me. > > Hang in! Hugs, Sheila > > > > Kim <kckim@...> wrote: > i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy > shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no > reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using > medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why > am i crying???? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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