Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 Dear Patty, Silicone tubing is used with ozone generators because it is the most resistant FLEXIBLE tubing available. Over time, however, the silicone ages, and becomes brittle. With normal daily use, most people should replace their tubing every 2 - 3 years. The silicone tubing I use for my big generators making ozonated olive oil that is in use 24 hours a day, becomes brittle and breaks if I try and remove it from the glass feeder tubing. I replace it every 6 months or so. So silicone does have a small reaction to ozone. Teflon tubing is more resistant than silicone, but it is rigid, and thus unusable for our purposes. Silicone used in the body is not a formed, dense substance, like tubing. It is a liquid, soft substance. It is quite different. When soft silicone leaks out of breast implants, the body tries to encapsulate it and contain it in one area. Ozone therapy, especially coupled with hyperthermia, results in the body ejecting silicone from where it has been stored, out through the skin. It can be a gruesome and messy, long term affair. However, it is the only way I know of to get it out. We have had four different women doing this process, and all of them have had a cessation of their symptoms, and no silicone can be felt under the skin in the former 'pockets'. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Silicone and ozone > I have read previously from (help me out on this one, !), that HBOT can reduce silicones to their more elemental forms, which can be more easily excreted from the body, as in the case of silicone poisoning from breast implants or particles from silicone joint prostheses and other medical devices. > > Is this correct? > > Dr. Saul Pressman states in his book (by the way, thank you Dr. Pressman for those wonderful resources) that there are only a few substances that are inert to ozone, silicone being one of them. > > If this is true, then does it follow correctly that ozone will NOT have any detoxification effect on silicones once in the body, and therefore not be effective in healing from illnesses from silicone toxicity? > I am still seriously considering purchasing an ozone generator....but need an answer to this important question! > Thanks, > Patty > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 I sent MY silicone to Dr Shallenberger in Nev.. He did all kinds of O-zone " things " to it and nothing worked. Where I get the information about silicone reducing to Silicon, is from my brother inlaw, Dr Ph.D. MD Research Scientist, he told me this in 1994, so THEN I went to New Orleans, I measured the silicon levels in urine, did HBOT, Measured again and they had sky rocketed. SO I had them treated with 40 HBOT's did the urine silicon levels over and over before during and after, the levels were very high and therefore showing it leaving the body. I used infar-red sauna along with IV DMSO, and EDTA plus HBOT the brain scans in the FOUR people completely reversed to NORMAL We use two Koch's as well during the next year with HBOT It is the pressure and O2 Silicone and ozone >I have read previously from (help me out on this one, !), that HBOT can reduce silicones to their more elemental forms, which can be more easily excreted from the body, as in the case of silicone poisoning from breast implants or particles from silicone joint prostheses and other medical devices. > >Is this correct? > >Dr. Saul Pressman states in his book (by the way, thank you Dr. Pressman for those wonderful resources) that there are only a few substances that are inert to ozone, silicone being one of them. > >If this is true, then does it follow correctly that ozone will NOT have any detoxification effect on silicones once in the body, and therefore not be effective in healing from illnesses from silicone toxicity? >I am still seriously considering purchasing an ozone generator....but need an answer to this important question! >Thanks, >Patty > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 Better not say everything on the list if you want to talk, call me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 Here is a letter I received from Dr. Saul Pressman regarding the use of ozone therapy for silicone affected women, which I am seriously looking into. I have already had several insufflations, but at $40 apiece am looking into buying my own generator. Patty ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patty <faussettdp@...> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 11:38 AM > Subject: Silicone and ozone > > > > I have read previously from (help me out on this one, > !), that HBOT can reduce silicones to their more elemental forms, which can be more easily excreted from the body, as in the case of silicone > poisoning from breast implants or particles from silicone joint prostheses > and other medical devices. > > > > Is this correct? > > > > Dr. Saul Pressman states in his book (by the way, thank you Dr. Pressman > for those wonderful resources) that there are only a few substances that are > inert to ozone, silicone being one of them. > > > > If this is true, then does it follow correctly that ozone will NOT have > any detoxification effect on silicones once in the body, and therefore not > be effective in healing from illnesses from silicone toxicity? > > I am still seriously considering purchasing an ozone generator....but need an answer to this important question ----------------- From: Saul Pressman <saul@...> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [oxyplus] Silicone and ozone > Dear Patty, > > Silicone tubing is used with ozone generators because it is the most > resistant > FLEXIBLE tubing available. Over time, however, the silicone ages, and > becomes > brittle. With normal daily use, most people should replace their tubing > every 2 - 3 years. > The silicone tubing I use for my big generators making ozonated olive oil > that is in use > 24 hours a day, becomes brittle and breaks if I try and remove it from the > glass feeder > tubing. I replace it every 6 months or so. So silicone does have a small > reaction to ozone. > > Teflon tubing is more resistant than silicone, but it is rigid, and thus > unusable for our purposes. > > Silicone used in the body is not a formed, dense substance, like tubing. It > is a liquid, soft > substance. It is quite different. > > When soft silicone leaks out of breast implants, the body tries to > encapsulate it and contain it in one area. > Ozone therapy, especially coupled with hyperthermia, results in the body > ejecting silicone from where it has been stored, out through the skin. It > can be a gruesome and messy, long term affair. However, it is the only way I > know of to get it out. We have had four different women doing this process, > and all of them have had a cessation of their symptoms, and no silicone can > be felt under the skin in the former 'pockets'. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > > URL: http://www.plasmafire.com > email: saul@... > > " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created > them " . - Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 That's a fascinating concept, but I react adversely to ozone too. It is a known respiratory irritant. I would be interested in hearing about this therapy from those who have had it, how sick they were to start with, what their diagnoses are. Eileen > Here is a letter I received from Dr. Saul Pressman regarding the use of > ozone therapy for silicone affected women, which I am seriously looking > into. I have already had several insufflations, but at $40 apiece am > looking into buying my own generator. > Patty > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Patty <faussettdp@m...> > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 11:38 AM > > Subject: Silicone and ozone > > > > > > > I have read previously from (help me out on this one, > > !), that HBOT can reduce silicones to their more elemental forms, > which can be more easily excreted from the body, as in the case of silicone > > poisoning from breast implants or particles from silicone joint prostheses > > and other medical devices. > > > > > > Is this correct? > > > > > > Dr. Saul Pressman states in his book (by the way, thank you Dr. Pressman > > for those wonderful resources) that there are only a few substances that > are > > inert to ozone, silicone being one of them. > > > > > > If this is true, then does it follow correctly that ozone will NOT have > > any detoxification effect on silicones once in the body, and therefore not > > be effective in healing from illnesses from silicone toxicity? > > > I am still seriously considering purchasing an ozone generator....but > need an answer to this important question > ----------------- > From: Saul Pressman <saul@p...> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [oxyplus] Silicone and ozone > > > > Dear Patty, > > > > Silicone tubing is used with ozone generators because it is the most > > resistant > > FLEXIBLE tubing available. Over time, however, the silicone ages, and > > becomes > > brittle. With normal daily use, most people should replace their tubing > > every 2 - 3 years. > > The silicone tubing I use for my big generators making ozonated olive oil > > that is in use > > 24 hours a day, becomes brittle and breaks if I try and remove it from the > > glass feeder > > tubing. I replace it every 6 months or so. So silicone does have a small > > reaction to ozone. > > > > Teflon tubing is more resistant than silicone, but it is rigid, and thus > > unusable for our purposes. > > > > Silicone used in the body is not a formed, dense substance, like tubing. > It > > is a liquid, soft > > substance. It is quite different. > > > > When soft silicone leaks out of breast implants, the body tries to > > encapsulate it and contain it in one area. > > Ozone therapy, especially coupled with hyperthermia, results in the body > > ejecting silicone from where it has been stored, out through the skin. It > > can be a gruesome and messy, long term affair. However, it is the only way > I > > know of to get it out. We have had four different women doing this > process, > > and all of them have had a cessation of their symptoms, and no silicone > can > > be felt under the skin in the former 'pockets'. > > > > Best of Health! > > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > > > > URL: http://www.plasmafire.com > > email: saul@p... > > > > " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that > created > > them " . - Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 > That's a fascinating concept, but I react adversely to ozone too. It > is a known respiratory irritant. I would be interested in hearing > about this therapy from those who have had it, how sick they were to > start with, what their diagnoses are. Ozone should never be breathed, and yes, it is a known respiratory irritant. It can damage the lungs if inhaled directly. Ozone air filters, such as the Alpine, while many people claim that it freshens the air and helps them feel so much better, should be used with caution. It is because ambient air is not entirely oxygen ( O2). Ambient air is made up of nitrogen (80%) and oxygen (20%) with a tiny amount of argon as well. When ozone is generated with ambient air, you get nitrous oxide along with it, and this is not desireable. The ozone therapy that I am investigating uses pure, medical grade oxygen that is put through an ozone generator. This creates O3, which is unstable yet medically very beneficial. Ozone kills pathogens, viruses, bacteria and oxygenates tissues. (The European Olympic athletes refused to use the swimming pool at the LA Olympics unless is was cleaned with ozone, as they have an aversion to chlorine gas since World War II. Almost all European pools are cleaned with ozone.) Ozone therapy has been around for over a century and has no adverse affects. Ozone therapy is done through means of insufflations. This means you introduce the ozone gas into various mucous membranes to be absorbed internally, such as ear insufflations, vaginal insufflations, rectal insufflations, and less commonly, bladder insufflations. You can also do a steam bath, in which ozone is allowed to be absorbed through your skin in a special sauna that provides moist air. You are protected from breathing it because the steam unit is created with a hole for your head, and you wrap a towel tightly around your neck to prevent ozone gas from escaping. I have had all forms of treatment at this point, but not enough of them, and that is why I am considering the ozone generator. You can also buy a water ozonator and drink all of your water in an ozonated state. This also if very beneficial; however, the water itself will have a demand for the ozone that is introduced, so you are not getting the full benefit. It is kind of like the difference between 100% juice and 50% juice. I have talked with one other very well known woman in the silicone support group (that will remain unnamed for her sake) who believes that ozone therapy was the single most important thing she did to feel better. She was injecting the ozone gas directly into her veins. (yes, this is done also.....but I am not considering that. However, you will find medical information about it.) She also is in the process of buying her own generator. If any of you want further information about ozone therapy, I am sure you can find several websites about it (try www.oxytherapy.com) and I would also recommend the book by iel Altman. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 It would seem to me that swimming in a pool with water that has been cleaned by ozone is a little different than having ozone gas introduced directly into the body tissues. Eileen (The European Olympic athletes refused to use the > swimming pool at the LA Olympics unless is was cleaned with ozone, as they > have an aversion to chlorine gas since World War II. Almost all European pools are cleaned with ozone.) > > Ozone therapy is done through means of insufflations. This means you introduce the ozone gas into various mucous membranes to be absorbed internally, such as ear insufflations, vaginal insufflations, rectal insufflations, and less commonly, bladder insufflations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 > It would seem to me that swimming in a pool with water that has been > cleaned by ozone is a little different than having ozone gas > introduced directly into the body tissues. Yes, your assumption is correct, Eileen! I do hope you caught the point that ozone is a disinfectant. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 > > It would seem to me that swimming in a pool with water that has been > > cleaned by ozone is a little different than having ozone gas > > introduced directly into the body tissues. > > Yes, your assumption is correct, Eileen! > > I do hope you caught the point that ozone is a disinfectant. > Patty Yes, Patty! I do hope you caught the point that swimming in a pool with water that has been cleaned by ozone does not have the same effect on the body as having the ozone directly introduced into the body tissues. In the former, the WATER is affected by the ozone. In the latter, the BODY'S TISSUES are. Eileen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 > > I do hope you caught the point that swimming in a pool with water > that has been cleaned by ozone does not have the same effect on the > body as having the ozone directly introduced into the body tissues. > > In the former, the WATER is affected by the ozone. In the latter, > the BODY'S TISSUES are. Gee, Did I say anywhere in that post to go swimming in an ozone cleaned swimming pool and you would get better? I don't think so. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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