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Wow Glenn sounds like you had a miserable time...........and especially since

you thought you had found the right doctor to help you. I was wondering what

caused the brain fog.

One guy at work always shakes his head like he has water in it and says he has a

hard time thinking. His doctors too tests and found nothing (of course). He is

diabetic and thinks the low fat, low calorie is the right way to eat. He drinks

like a fish on the weekends.

I suggested he might have candida and now I can direct him to a book that

explains the brain fog. I used to have it really bad and thought I was either

having a stroke or early alzheimers.

When you get a moment can you para-phrase his comments on brain fog for us and

what happens or why it happens.

Thanks

Jeanne

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I'm in " recovery " from what appears to be candida. After spending

more than $3,000 on doctors and being told my symptoms are in my

head, someone finally took me seriously. My memory isn't good, and

it's hard to remember instructions, which makes things difficult.

" The Yeast Syndrome, " by Trowbridge and (1986), lists yeast-

sympathetic doctors in all 50 states, and gives detailed recipes and

diets to curtail candida. It pushes nystatin, which I've heard isn't

as effective as Diflucan, which enters the bloodstream.

A doctor near me is listed, and he's in my health network, but is an

hour away. I wasn't impressed with him or his medical center, so

beware of some of these doctors. I filled out a 30-page

questionnaire, and an office assistant typed most of it into a

computer (1 hr); the dr. typed the rest in (using 2 fingers!) for the

next hr. The phone rang incessantly (never answered), the office

staff across the hall shouted into their phones, and, as I was told

not to eat or drink anything before the visit, I was angry, super

annoyed, hungry, ignored (etc.), and eager about to leave. I

explained my situation to the dr. (no breakfast or coffee), said the

ringing phone was VERY ANNOYING, and asked if he'd PLEASE answer it.

He gave me his salmon-pickle sandwich and a cup of coffee (!), which

helped. He examined me (5 mins, tops), and wrote prescriptions for

Diflucan and bloodwork for " candida immune " something, saying any lab

would draw the blood.

The labs couldn't do the test without a procedure code...and the

dr.'s staff said I had to return to for the bloodwork (a 10-minute

job, but an hr away and a 1/2 day from work!). I finally reached the

head nurse, who said a certain kind of lab had to do the test. She

set it up so a local lab could do it. The insurance doesn't cover it

($87), and the local lab charges $25 to do it! The lesson: Talk to

someone in authority, and don't settle until you do.

I'm going to start the Diflucan after the blood is drawn, and start

Garden of Life's Fungal Defense. I want to start the carbo-free diet

listed in Yeast Syndrome, but it'll be hard with the holidays. Plus,

I'm losing my job Jan. 14, and it's hard to think with the brain

fog. Talk about frustrating!

But ck the book out. It explains the brain fog (lack of the aldehyde

dehydrogenase enzyme) and lack of energy, which helps.

Yes, kids, science can explain these things, and they're not

psychosomatic.

Glenn

Easton, Pa.

After spending

more than $3,000 on doctors and being told my symptoms are in my

head, someone finally took me seriously. My memory isn't good, and

it's hard to remember instructions, which makes things difficult.

" The Yeast Syndrome, " by Trowbridge and (1986), lists yeast-

sympathetic doctors in all 50 states, and gives detailed recipes and

diets to curtail candida. It pushes nystatin, which I've heard isn't

as effective as Diflucan, which enters the bloodstream.

A doctor near me is listed, and he's in my health network, but is an

hour away. I wasn't impressed with him or his medical center, so

beware of some of these doctors. I filled out a 30-page

questionnaire, and an office assistant typed most of it into a

computer (1 hr); the dr. typed the rest in (using 2 fingers!) for the

next hr. The phone rang incessantly (never answered), the office

staff across the hall shouted into their phones, and, as I was told

not to eat or drink anything before the visit, I was angry, super

annoyed, hungry, ignored (etc.), and eager about to leave. I

explained my situation to the dr. (no breakfast or coffee), said the

ringing phone was VERY ANNOYING, and asked if he'd PLEASE answer it.

He gave me his salmon-pickle sandwich and a cup of coffee (!), which

helped. He examined me (5 mins, tops), and wrote prescriptions for

Diflucan and bloodwork for " candida immune " something, saying any lab

would draw the blood.

The labs couldn't do the test without a procedure code...and the

dr.'s staff said I had to return to for the bloodwork (a 10-minute

job, but an hr away and a 1/2 day from work!). I finally reached the

head nurse, who said a certain kind of lab had to do the test. She

set it up so a local lab could do it. The insurance doesn't cover it

($87), and the local lab charges $25 to do it! The lesson: Talk to

someone in authority, and don't settle until you do.

I'm going to start the Diflucan after the blood is drawn, and start

Garden of Life's Fungal Defense. I want to start the carbo-free diet

listed in Yeast Syndrome, but it'll be hard with the holidays. Plus,

I'm losing my job Jan. 14, and it's hard to think with the brain

fog. Talk about frustrating!

But ck the book out. It explains the brain fog (lack of the aldehyde

dehydrogenase enzyme) and lack of energy, which helps.

Yes, kids, science can explain these things, and they're not

psychosomatic.

Glenn

Easton, Pa.

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Yes, please do tell us. Of all my candida symptoms: thyroid, allergies, ibs,

etc, my BRAIN

FOG is the most frustrating, grrrrrrr. Glad to hear that it does indeed LEAVE

at some

point. : )

'

> Wow Glenn sounds like you had a miserable time...........and especially since

you thought

you had found the right doctor to help you. I was wondering what caused the

brain fog.

>

> One guy at work always shakes his head like he has water in it and says he has

a hard

time thinking. His doctors too tests and found nothing (of course). He is

diabetic and

thinks the low fat, low calorie is the right way to eat. He drinks like a fish

on the

weekends.

>

> I suggested he might have candida and now I can direct him to a book that

explains the

brain fog. I used to have it really bad and thought I was either having a

stroke or early

alzheimers.

>

> When you get a moment can you para-phrase his comments on brain fog for us and

what happens or why it happens.

>

> Thanks

> Jeanne

> -------------- Original message --------------

>

> I'm in " recovery " from what appears to be candida. After spending

> more than $3,000 on doctors and being told my symptoms are in my

> head, someone finally took me seriously. My memory isn't good, and

> it's hard to remember instructions, which makes things difficult.

>

> " The Yeast Syndrome, " by Trowbridge and (1986), lists yeast-

> sympathetic doctors in all 50 states, and gives detailed recipes and

> diets to curtail candida. It pushes nystatin, which I've heard isn't

> as effective as Diflucan, which enters the bloodstream.

>

> A doctor near me is listed, and he's in my health network, but is an

> hour away. I wasn't impressed with him or his medical center, so

> beware of some of these doctors. I filled out a 30-page

> questionnaire, and an office assistant typed most of it into a

> computer (1 hr); the dr. typed the rest in (using 2 fingers!) for the

> next hr. The phone rang incessantly (never answered), the office

> staff across the hall shouted into their phones, and, as I was told

> not to eat or drink anything before the visit, I was angry, super

> annoyed, hungry, ignored (etc.), and eager about to leave. I

> explained my situation to the dr. (no breakfast or coffee), said the

> ringing phone was VERY ANNOYING, and asked if he'd PLEASE answer it.

> He gave me his salmon-pickle sandwich and a cup of coffee (!), which

> helped. He examined me (5 mins, tops), and wrote prescriptions for

> Diflucan and bloodwork for " candida immune " something, saying any lab

> would draw the blood.

>

> The labs couldn't do the test without a procedure code...and the

> dr.'s staff said I had to return to for the bloodwork (a 10-minute

> job, but an hr away and a 1/2 day from work!). I finally reached the

> head nurse, who said a certain kind of lab had to do the test. She

> set it up so a local lab could do it. The insurance doesn't cover it

> ($87), and the local lab charges $25 to do it! The lesson: Talk to

> someone in authority, and don't settle until you do.

>

> I'm going to start the Diflucan after the blood is drawn, and start

> Garden of Life's Fungal Defense. I want to start the carbo-free diet

> listed in Yeast Syndrome, but it'll be hard with the holidays. Plus,

> I'm losing my job Jan. 14, and it's hard to think with the brain

> fog. Talk about frustrating!

>

> But ck the book out. It explains the brain fog (lack of the aldehyde

> dehydrogenase enzyme) and lack of energy, which helps.

>

> Yes, kids, science can explain these things, and they're not

> psychosomatic.

>

>

> Glenn

> Easton, Pa.

> After spending

> more than $3,000 on doctors and being told my symptoms are in my

> head, someone finally took me seriously. My memory isn't good, and

> it's hard to remember instructions, which makes things difficult.

>

> " The Yeast Syndrome, " by Trowbridge and (1986), lists yeast-

> sympathetic doctors in all 50 states, and gives detailed recipes and

> diets to curtail candida. It pushes nystatin, which I've heard isn't

> as effective as Diflucan, which enters the bloodstream.

>

> A doctor near me is listed, and he's in my health network, but is an

> hour away. I wasn't impressed with him or his medical center, so

> beware of some of these doctors. I filled out a 30-page

> questionnaire, and an office assistant typed most of it into a

> computer (1 hr); the dr. typed the rest in (using 2 fingers!) for the

> next hr. The phone rang incessantly (never answered), the office

> staff across the hall shouted into their phones, and, as I was told

> not to eat or drink anything before the visit, I was angry, super

> annoyed, hungry, ignored (etc.), and eager about to leave. I

> explained my situation to the dr. (no breakfast or coffee), said the

> ringing phone was VERY ANNOYING, and asked if he'd PLEASE answer it.

> He gave me his salmon-pickle sandwich and a cup of coffee (!), which

> helped. He examined me (5 mins, tops), and wrote prescriptions for

> Diflucan and bloodwork for " candida immune " something, saying any lab

> would draw the blood.

>

> The labs couldn't do the test without a procedure code...and the

> dr.'s staff said I had to return to for the bloodwork (a 10-minute

> job, but an hr away and a 1/2 day from work!). I finally reached the

> head nurse, who said a certain kind of lab had to do the test. She

> set it up so a local lab could do it. The insurance doesn't cover it

> ($87), and the local lab charges $25 to do it! The lesson: Talk to

> someone in authority, and don't settle until you do.

>

> I'm going to start the Diflucan after the blood is drawn, and start

> Garden of Life's Fungal Defense. I want to start the carbo-free diet

> listed in Yeast Syndrome, but it'll be hard with the holidays. Plus,

> I'm losing my job Jan. 14, and it's hard to think with the brain

> fog. Talk about frustrating!

>

> But ck the book out. It explains the brain fog (lack of the aldehyde

> dehydrogenase enzyme) and lack of energy, which helps.

>

> Yes, kids, science can explain these things, and they're not

> psychosomatic.

>

>

> Glenn

> Easton, Pa.

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> After spending more than $3,000 on doctors and being told my

symptoms

> are in my head, someone finally took me seriously. My memory isn't

> good, and it's hard to remember instructions, which makes things

> difficult.

>

> " The Yeast Syndrome, " by Trowbridge and (1986), lists yeast-

> sympathetic doctors in all 50 states, and gives detailed recipes and

> diets to curtail candida. It pushes nystatin, which I've heard isn't

> as effective as Diflucan, which enters the bloodstream.

>

> A doctor near me is listed, and he's in my health network, but is an

> hour away. I wasn't impressed with him or his medical center, so

> beware of some of these doctors. I filled out a 30-page

> questionnaire, and an office assistant typed most of it into a

> computer (1 hr); the dr. typed the rest in (using 2 fingers!) for

the

> next hr. The phone rang incessantly (never answered), the office

> staff across the hall shouted into their phones, and, as I was told

> not to eat or drink anything before the visit, I was angry, super

> annoyed, hungry, ignored (etc.), and eager about to leave. I

> explained my situation to the dr. (no breakfast or coffee), said the

> ringing phone was VERY ANNOYING, and asked if he'd PLEASE answer it.

> He gave me his salmon-pickle sandwich and a cup of coffee (!), which

> helped. He examined me (5 mins, tops), and wrote prescriptions for

> Diflucan and bloodwork for " candida immune " something, saying any

lab

> would draw the blood.

>

> The labs couldn't do the test without a procedure code...and the

> dr.'s staff said I had to return to for the bloodwork (a 10-minute

> job, but an hr away and a 1/2 day from work!). I finally reached the

> head nurse, who said a certain kind of lab had to do the test. She

> set it up so a local lab could do it. The insurance doesn't cover it

> ($87), and the local lab charges $25 to do it! The lesson: Talk to

> someone in authority, and don't settle until you do.

>

> I'm going to start the Diflucan after the blood is drawn, and start

> Garden of Life's Fungal Defense. I want to start the carbo-free diet

> listed in Yeast Syndrome, but it'll be hard with the holidays. Plus,

> I'm losing my job Jan. 14, and it's hard to think with the brain

> fog. Talk about frustrating!

>

> But ck the book out. It explains the brain fog (lack of the aldehyde

> dehydrogenase enzyme) and lack of energy, which helps.

>

> Yes, kids, science can explain these things, and they're not

> psychosomatic.

>

>

> Glenn

> Easton, Pa.

Hi!!!!

What a storie!!! what were you symptoms???

BTW I live in Philadelphia, about 1 hour and 15 minutes from Easton,

PA. Do you mind giving me the doctors name???

Thank you much!!!

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I can't make any promises; the bk goes back to the library today (had

it 6 wks, read through it last wk! tee hee!). there were a lot of

people's histories, esp'ly with people being called autistic or

schizophrenic, when it was just candida.

the saddest was a 30-yr story of a man who reeked of whiskey and

acted drunk, esp'ly after ingesting carbs. He never drank, but

eveyrone said he was a liar about that. he had a lot of yeast that

converted the carbs to alcohol. he had to go to japan for treatment

(took 3 weeks there). i forget how he got his condition, but it did

get written up in the l.a. times in the '80s.

glenn

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Hi Glenn,

Welcome to our group! It's great to have you with us. It seems like

you have a lot of good things to share so I hope you hang around,

read our files and share!

The Yeast Syndrome book by Trowbridge is my bible on candida, even

though I don't agree with some things, esp. diet. He provides very

good information on candida, what is helpful, etc. My copy is

tattered, torn and falling apart from a lot of use, and from age

(printed in 1986).

You can read my story of how I got candida in the files (left side-

bar) too if you are interested. I had it for over 25 years before I

found out what was making me sick.

Glenn, I'm not big on Garden of Life's Fungal Defense and Primal

Defense products. I feel GOL over-markets and over-prices

everything, so I makes me skeptical. I like to stick to the " tried

and true " and other than nystatin, to the most whole food products,

herbs, etc. available - it's also a lot cheaper. There is a

fantastic probiotic in my article " cabbage rejuvelac " which is very

beneficial without having to spend much money. I believe in the

power of raw certified organic garlic and coconut oil as two

mainstays for antifungals.

Thanks your posts. What do you think of our candida program, esp.

the diet, which is the most important aspect of the program?

Cheerio for now,

Bee

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

P.S. I'm originally from Wisconsin

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Dear Glenn,

The index in my copy of The Yeast Syndrome isn't very good. In what

section of the book did you read about brain fog? Maybe I can look

it up and provide some more information for the group.

TIA,

Bee

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I agree with you about Garden of Life! I've been resistant to the

cabbage rejuvelac, but eat a clove of garlic daily. Talk about harsh

and having willpower: I chop a clove, and swallow it with a glass of

bottled water. It does help.

I have plenty of coc. oil, and am about to read through your files

thoroughly. this isn't the time to start a yeast diet, but it's good

to prepare yourself for after the holidays.

Thanks for the warm welcome. Some other groups weren't as kind to my

posts!

glenn

>

> Glenn, I'm not big on Garden of Life's Fungal Defense and Primal

> Defense products. I feel GOL over-markets and over-prices

> everything, so I makes me skeptical. I like to stick to the " tried

> and true " and other than nystatin, to the most whole food products,

> herbs, etc. available - it's also a lot cheaper. There is a

> fantastic probiotic in my article " cabbage rejuvelac " which is very

> beneficial without having to spend much money. I believe in the

> power of raw certified organic garlic and coconut oil as two

> mainstays for antifungals.

>

> Thanks your posts. What do you think of our candida program, esp.

> the diet, which is the most important aspect of the program?

>

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Glenn wrote:

> I agree with you about Garden of Life!

That's good to hear Glenn. So many people are sold on it I felt like

a loner with how I feel about it.

>I've been resistant to the cabbage rejuvelac,

In what way are you resistant?

> but eat a clove of garlic daily. Talk about harsh and having

> willpower: I chop a clove, and swallow it with a > glass of

> bottled water. It does help.

That's great you have such willpower. It will pay off.

> I have plenty of coc. oil,

Excellent!

>and am about to read through your files thoroughly. this isn't the

>time to start a yeast diet, but it's good to prepare yourself for

>after the holidays.

I understand about getting through the holidays first. Good plan.

Here in Canada we celebrate Thanksgiving Day in October.

> Thanks for the warm welcome. Some other groups weren't as kind to

> my posts!

You're welcome Glenn. We're a friendly helpful group and we welcome

you wholeheartedly. I just started this forum in April this year and

we already have a great group of 177 members. That's good eh?

With warmest regards, in health,

Bee

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