Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Gracia, Yes, but what is wrong with ruling out other possibilities? Just for argument sake, just because someone is having thyroid like problems and their test are coming back normal doesn't necessarily mean they are having thyroid problems despite the test. I can understand your frustration in the system, I really do. I agree that doctors should rely more heavily on patient history and current symptoms. On the same token doctors are not physic. Take a look at the many illnesses that include the most common complaints such as muscle pain and fatigue. There are so many!! How can you expect a doctor to determine what it is he/she is suppose to treat you for without basing his educated guess on the numbers? In my opinion,(and that's all it is, I mean no offense to your beliefs for I have not walked in your shoes)I would be extremely uncomfortable letting a doctor treat me for thyroid, adrenal or what ever without testing me first and taking it into consideration. In my case, I only had mild symptoms that I didn't attribute to thyroid disease at the time. Only after routine testing was I told I had hypothyroidism. They give me a prescription and was told I would have to take thyroid meds for the rest of my life. So I took what they said as truth and have taking my meds all these years(8) without experiencing much symptoms. This past year has been a different story. My numbers have been all over the place! I now know what is like to suffer with this illness and I really do feel for the ones who have to question their illness and not get properly treated based just on the numbers. Take care! Dana -- Re: Thyroid & ADD/ADHD relation? > > > No I know you are not an idiot and didn't mean to imply that. I know some > people who are adults with ADD/ADHD and it's pretty easy to see the > symptoms!! They simply cannot stop and rest, and think they are running on > energy when they are running on raw nerves. It just sounds a bit crazy to > me that we get " tested " for EVERYTHING. > Gracia > > > > > i don't agree that my doc has " no clinical skills. " He may not be the best > doctor in the world, and there are certainly things about him I don't like. > He could definitely improve in some areas, but I'm not an idiot who goes to > a doctor without clinical skills. > > sheila > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 I am at the place where I do believe that 40-70% of the population would benefit from natural thyroid meds. I also think we could cut our national nightmare healthcare bill in half with better treatment. But that would mean throwing out a lot of drugs. Read Broda book! Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness. Gracia > Gracia, > Yes, but what is wrong with ruling out other possibilities? Just for > argument sake, just because someone is having thyroid like problems and > their test are coming back normal doesn't necessarily mean they are having > thyroid problems despite the test. I can understand your frustration in the > system, I really do. I agree that doctors should rely more heavily on > patient history and current symptoms. On the same token doctors are not > physic. Take a look at the many illnesses that include the most common > complaints such as muscle pain and fatigue. There are so many!! How can you > expect a doctor to determine what it is he/she is suppose to treat you for > without basing his educated guess on the numbers? > In my opinion,(and that's all it is, I mean no offense to your beliefs for > I have not walked in your shoes)I would be extremely uncomfortable letting a > doctor treat me for thyroid, adrenal or what ever without testing me first > and taking it into consideration. In my case, I only had mild symptoms that > I didn't attribute to thyroid disease at the time. Only after routine > testing was I told I had hypothyroidism. They give me a prescription and was > told I would have to take thyroid meds for the rest of my life. So I took > what they said as truth and have taking my meds all these years(8) without > experiencing much symptoms. This past year has been a different story. My > numbers have been all over the place! I now know what is like to suffer with > this illness and I really do feel for the ones who have to question their > illness and not get properly treated based just on the numbers. > Take care! > Dana > > -- Re: Thyroid & ADD/ADHD relation? > > > > > > No I know you are not an idiot and didn't mean to imply that. I know > some > > people who are adults with ADD/ADHD and it's pretty easy to see the > > symptoms!! They simply cannot stop and rest, and think they are running > on > > energy when they are running on raw nerves. It just sounds a bit crazy > to > > me that we get " tested " for EVERYTHING. > > Gracia > > > > > > > > > i don't agree that my doc has " no clinical skills. " He may not be the > best > > doctor in the world, and there are certainly things about him I don't > like. > > He could definitely improve in some areas, but I'm not an idiot who goes > to > > a doctor without clinical skills. > > > sheila > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 everyday I see it more and more all the symptoms of thyroid in our population and I agree with you here when you state 40-70% I even think it might be higher--you see it with diabetes, ms, lupus-- arthritis, joint pain--ect. I see it everywhere I go. I myself decided to take one natural glandular a day of thyroid after we all talked about heal pain. I have had it off and on for years. It came back again and the pain was so intense along with that my legs just ached. We all started to talk about it and I thought I'll take one pill of this over the counter thyroid glandular and in two weeks time all the pain is completely gone, I was able to make the wedding I just went too. And all the leg pain is gone as well. Now I did find an old tsh test of mine and it was .80---so a tiny bit on the low side. My mom who I just visited needs to go on armour, her synthetic worked for two months and now it's not. Typical I told her because she is not balancing out the hormones with t3. She is now catching every cold that comes her way. And can't control her blood pressure. I begged her to go back to her doctor and tell him to give it to her. tina > > I am at the place where I do believe that 40-70% of the population would > benefit from natural thyroid meds. I also think we could cut our national > nightmare healthcare bill in half with better treatment. But that would > mean throwing out a lot of drugs. Read Broda book! Hypothyroidism: > the Unsuspected Illness. > Gracia > > > Gracia, > > Yes, but what is wrong with ruling out other possibilities? Just for > > argument sake, just because someone is having thyroid like problems and > > their test are coming back normal doesn't necessarily mean they are having > > thyroid problems despite the test. I can understand your frustration in > the > > system, I really do. I agree that doctors should rely more heavily on > > patient history and current symptoms. On the same token doctors are not > > physic. Take a look at the many illnesses that include the most common > > complaints such as muscle pain and fatigue. There are so many!! How can > you > > expect a doctor to determine what it is he/she is suppose to treat you for > > without basing his educated guess on the numbers? > > In my opinion,(and that's all it is, I mean no offense to your beliefs > for > > I have not walked in your shoes)I would be extremely uncomfortable letting > a > > doctor treat me for thyroid, adrenal or what ever without testing me > first > > and taking it into consideration. In my case, I only had mild symptoms > that > > I didn't attribute to thyroid disease at the time. Only after routine > > testing was I told I had hypothyroidism. They give me a prescription and > was > > told I would have to take thyroid meds for the rest of my life. So I > took > > what they said as truth and have taking my meds all these years (8) without > > experiencing much symptoms. This past year has been a different story. My > > numbers have been all over the place! I now know what is like to suffer > with > > this illness and I really do feel for the ones who have to question their > > illness and not get properly treated based just on the numbers. > > Take care! > > Dana > > > > -- Re: Thyroid & ADD/ADHD relation? > > > > > > > > > No I know you are not an idiot and didn't mean to imply that. I know > > some > > > people who are adults with ADD/ADHD and it's pretty easy to see the > > > symptoms!! They simply cannot stop and rest, and think they are > running > > on > > > energy when they are running on raw nerves. It just sounds a bit crazy > > to > > > me that we get " tested " for EVERYTHING. > > > Gracia > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't agree that my doc has " no clinical skills. " He may not be the > > best > > > doctor in the world, and there are certainly things about him I don't > > like. > > > He could definitely improve in some areas, but I'm not an idiot who goes > > to > > > a doctor without clinical skills. > > > > sheila > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Interesting. Low TSH plus symptoms can be because of adrenal insufficiency. Gracia > everyday I see it more and more all the symptoms of thyroid in our > population and I agree with you here when you state 40-70% I even > think it might be higher--you see it with diabetes, ms, lupus-- > arthritis, joint pain--ect. I see it everywhere I go. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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