RE: For people that have lost their hair

[Guest guest]

Amy,

We all understand your feelings, as we have them too. I would think if

your hair loss is caused by hypothyroid, it would grow back, but I have

alopecia from a genetic factor and mine won't grow back. Are you on

medicines for hypo? If so, give it several months to see. Someone else

on this list may have better answers than me. Take care

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry

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>Is there hope of it growing back. I'm having a real hard time with this hair issue. I feel really vain for feeling this way, but I've always had nice hair and now it's awful. Thanks for your input.

My hair loss slowed down quite a bit when I went on thyroid medication, but it did not stop until I started taking Cortef (hydrocortisone, adrenal medication). Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Again, looking for health from "meds" is hoping a potentiall deadly toxin will somehow, magically confer health.

Look up the side effects of cortisone, its deadly.

There are herbs like...gotu kola, licorice, ginger, ashwaganda...that supprt adrenal function....and have no adverse side effects.

Earl

-----Original Message-----From: Black [mailto:jennyblack101@...]Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2001 08:17hypothyroidism Subject: Re: For people that have lost their hair

>Is there hope of it growing back. I'm having a real hard time with this hair issue. I feel really vain for feeling this way, but I've always had nice hair and now it's awful. Thanks for your input.

My hair loss slowed down quite a bit when I went on thyroid medication, but it did not stop until I started taking Cortef (hydrocortisone, adrenal medication).

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>There are herbs like...gotu kola, licorice, ginger, ashwaganda...that supprt adrenal function....and have no adverse side effects.

You're absolutely right. However, 18 months of taking licorice, gotu kola, ginger, and cayenne, along with vitamin and mineral supplementation, did not stop my hair from falling out. One month of Cortef did.

Also, a low dose of hydrocortisone is much safer than other steroids, like prednisone.

The bottom line, Earl, is that theoretically and philosophically, I am fully in your corner on the subject of natural remedies vs. drugs. Nevertheless, as a 35-year-old woman who enjoys having a love life, I am not willing to go bald for the sake of my beliefs.

Herbs and vitamins did not stop or even slow my hair loss. Thyroid and adrenal medication stopped it. That is the simple fact, and I will continue to share it with others who are in the same horrifying position that I was in.Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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What is Cortel? Thanks

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry

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I have alopecia, (female pattern baldness) and I assumed that when I

started thyroid med. (Thyrolar T3/T4) at least my hair would stabilize,

but it is excellerated worse. Any help for the meds./cortizone would

reallly be appreciated. Thanks

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry

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>, What is Cortel?

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Cortef is hydrocortisone. It is a steroid, but is less powerful and damaging than most. It is a replacement for underfunctioning adrenals.

Here are some links on the subject:

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~wj2m/ http://www.functional-med.com/lowtemp.asp#adrenalhttp://www.foxleylaneclinic.co.uk/Suggestions_1.htm http://www.foxleylaneclinic.co.uk/low_adrenals.htm Clinical site: http://arbl.cvmbs.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/adrenal/index.html

Excellent easy to understand articles on adrenals: http://www.mbschachter.com/adrenal.htm http://www.mercola.com/2000/aug/27/adrenals.htm http://www.fred.net/slowup/hai96.html and on hypothyroidism with section on weak adrenals: http://www.mbschachter.com/hypothyroidism.htm That oughta keep you busy for awhile. )Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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>I have alopecia, (female pattern baldness) and I assumed that when I started thyroid med. (Thyrolar T3/T4) at least my hair would stabilize, but it is excellerated worse.

First of all, how long have you been on the Thyrolar? If not very long, you may just have to wait it out. There is often an adjustment period where the loss worsens and then either gets better or at least stabilizes.

>Any help for the meds./cortizone would reallly be appreciated. Thanks

Do check out the links I sent you. Especially, check out Dr. Mercola's article on adrenals and see if you have hypoadrenal symptoms. (I had tons!)

You may have trouble finding a doctor who will treat adrenals, though. Most of them aren't very up on the subject, unfortunately.Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Then the dermatologist wouldnt give that to me. I am on Thyrolar for

thyroid (small dose). My antibodies aren't very high. Now I'm back to

square one for finding a treatment for alopecia. Tried the herbal

route. What kind of shampoo do you use? Does it help wtih shedding? A

brand name? I guess your hairloss is different from mine tho.

Thank you for the reply. ))

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry

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I've been on Thyrolar for about 2.5 weeks. I hope it stabilizes. Can

see my scalp now!!!

Thanks

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry

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and Jerry:

Pleased to hear that Thyrolar has some success.

What have you done to address the ever present auto-immune componenet of

thyroid disorder??

Hair loss is a consequence of thyroid disorder and 'B' vitamin deficiencies.

Thyrolar is a " replacement " for your thyroid hormone.

If you were to eliminate the auto-immune aspect that inhibits thyroid

function and supplied the correct nutrition, your thyroid would most likely

function normally without the need of any drugs.

All this is available at www.thyrodine.com

Earl

RE: For people that have lost their hair

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Then the dermatologist wouldnt give that to me. I am on Thyrolar for

thyroid (small dose). My antibodies aren't very high. Now I'm back to

square one for finding a treatment for alopecia. Tried the herbal

route. What kind of shampoo do you use? Does it help wtih shedding? A

brand name? I guess your hairloss is different from mine tho.

Thank you for the reply. ))

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry

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Alopecia is a thyroid and B vitamin imbalance and maybe toxicity from mercury, fluoride/chlorine or from drugs.

Why would hair grow from taking yet another drug??

Adrenal fatigue is common today. Do you really believe that a medically-trained person has a "remedy" that will restore normal adrenal function?

There are some excellent herbs that do address adrenal fatigue. Medics consider herbs as quackery.

Most health food stores should have a stress formula that may contain...

ashwaganda, gotu kola, licorice, ginger, ginko, schizandra, skullcap.

There is some question about possible reactions from hypericum, so I tend not to use it.

The thyroid and hormone regeneration protocols available from www.thyrodine.com include adrenal stress herbs as part of the program.

Earl

-----Original Message-----From: Black [mailto:jennyblack101@...]Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2001 09:52hypothyroidism Subject: RE: For people that have lost their hair

>I have alopecia, (female pattern baldness) and I assumed that when I started thyroid med. (Thyrolar T3/T4) at least my hair would stabilize, but it is excellerated worse.

First of all, how long have you been on the Thyrolar? If not very long, you may just have to wait it out. There is often an adjustment period where the loss worsens and then either gets better or at least stabilizes.

>Any help for the meds./cortizone would reallly be appreciated. Thanks

Do check out the links I sent you. Especially, check out Dr. Mercola's article on adrenals and see if you have hypoadrenal symptoms. (I had tons!)

You may have trouble finding a doctor who will treat adrenals, though. Most of them aren't very up on the subject, unfortunately.

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Earl, I see your picking on me again, () ))

Some hypothyroid is autoimmune and some isn't. From what I gather,

read, heard, hypothyroid can be from your thyroid just not putting out

enough hormone. Autoimmune thyroiditis is when the antibodies attack

the thyroid off and on until it sometimes now longer can function

properly. It was not definitely been ruled one or the other. He thinks

maybe hashimotos (slightly) with is autoimmune.

Earl, I take enough " B's " and take much of what is in your Thyrodine. I

am doing the best I can, k?

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry

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Taking most of whats in Thyrodine is not taking Thyrodine which took 25

years to develop.

There is no reason why a thyroid just doesn't put out enough hormone!!

except that it..

1-cant due to auto-immune disorders [and hashimotos is simply an

underfunction due to auto-immune inhibition.

2-it lacks the nutritional elements it requires to make T4 and convert T4 to

T3

Those nutritional elements are in Thyrodine

Yes, I am picking on you again.

I've expounded time and again the basic physiology of natural thyroid

function and why " replacement " with drugs is completely unnecessary, and you

go on about this drug that doesn't seem to " work! "

Play with this data.....

Earl

RE: For people that have lost their hair

Earl, I see your picking on me again, () ))

Some hypothyroid is autoimmune and some isn't. From what I gather,

read, heard, hypothyroid can be from your thyroid just not putting out

enough hormone. Autoimmune thyroiditis is when the antibodies attack

the thyroid off and on until it sometimes now longer can function

properly. It was not definitely been ruled one or the other. He thinks

maybe hashimotos (slightly) with is autoimmune.

Earl, I take enough " B's " and take much of what is in your Thyrodine. I

am doing the best I can, k?

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry

[Guest guest]

Earl,

I am not the only one on this list taking " pharmeceuticals " or talking

about them. I will look again, at your Thyrodine ingredients. Now you

don't need to pick on me for a while, k?

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry

[Guest guest]

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Thanks for that feedback on Cortef and synthetic thyroid.

Cortisone in general drives conditions further into the tissues so it has to be dealt with later.

I agree that whatever it takes to keep hair on is worth considering.

It would be nice if someone could find a natural remedy that works as well.

I'll keep trying.

Tell me have you any mercury in your teeth??

Earl

-----Original Message-----From: Black [mailto:jennyblack101@...]Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2001 11:36hypothyroidism Subject: RE: For people that have lost their hair

>There are herbs like...gotu kola, licorice, ginger, ashwaganda...that supprt adrenal function....and have no adverse side effects.

You're absolutely right. However, 18 months of taking licorice, gotu kola, ginger, and cayenne, along with vitamin and mineral supplementation, did not stop my hair from falling out. One month of Cortef did.

Also, a low dose of hydrocortisone is much safer than other steroids, like prednisone.

The bottom line, Earl, is that theoretically and philosophically, I am fully in your corner on the subject of natural remedies vs. drugs. Nevertheless, as a 35-year-old woman who enjoys having a love life, I am not willing to go bald for the sake of my beliefs.

Herbs and vitamins did not stop or even slow my hair loss. Thyroid and adrenal medication stopped it. That is the simple fact, and I will continue to share it with others who are in the same horrifying position that I was in.

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I'm not really picking on you.

Its just that I see so many people whose lives are ruined by drugs.

Yes, made a point that Cortef and drugs helped her hair grow, and fair

enough.

Medical drugs and invasive procedures are the #1 cause of disability and

death in " civilized " countries.

When considering thyroid disorders, I have been dealing with them for over

25 years and I have never encountered a person who was better off taking

drugs.

Drugs simply do not address the problem but do create some nasty side

effects.

Earl

RE: For people that have lost their hair

Earl,

I am not the only one on this list taking " pharmeceuticals " or talking

about them. I will look again, at your Thyrodine ingredients. Now you

don't need to pick on me for a while, k?

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry

[Guest guest]

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I have not found that any topical treatment I've tried (shampoo, lotion, etc.) has helped with the loss. Others have had some success with Nioxin or Rogaine, neither of which I've tried. Getting on the right dose of the right medication is what worked for me.

>Then the dermatologist wouldnt give that to me.

You can always try another doctor. Check the Top Doctor Directory at http://www.thyroid.about.com.>I guess your hairloss is different from mine tho.

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Earl, I had my mercury fillings replaced several years ago. I'm currently exploring the possibility that I may still have contamination with my naturopath.

>I agree that whatever it takes to keep hair on is worth considering.

Glad you understand. )

>It would be nice if someone could find a natural remedy that works as well.

Yes, that would be the best thing, that's for sure.

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I assumed your hairloss was from hypothyroid. Mine is called

androgenetic alopecia. I have been losing hair since about 18 years

old.

Thank you for replying to me. I will keep searching. I have used

Rogaine, but it is to rough on the hair with very little results I read

a while ago, that it can potentially cause cancer also. Cant back that

up tho.

Thanks

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry

[Guest guest]

Please check out the list of symptoms on the Mercola adrenals page and see how many you have or have had. Your adrenals could well be at fault here.

Can you please send the address of this page?

Thanks!

Hannah

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In a message dated 06/03/2001 2:42:57 PM Central Daylight Time, jennyblack101@... writes:

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>I assumed your hairloss was from hypothyroid. Mine is called androgenetic alopecia. Why do you think so? Did a doctor tell you that? I heard that one as well, from a hair loss "expert". The same guy said "it's not your thyroid" and "medication won't help" and "use Rogaine". Obviously he was wrong.

This is just my opinion, but I think that "androgenetic alopecia" and "telogen effluvium" are doctor-speak for "your hair's falling out and we don't know why".

Please check out the list of symptoms on the Mercola adrenals page and see how many you have or have had. Your adrenals could well be at fault here.

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I recently joined this list so I really don't know the back ground of the hair loss.

Just want to relate my story: in '95 I started losing my hair. After awhile

I show a specialist. He just would analyze my hair etc. Then one day when he

stepped out of the room I looked at my chart and under diagnosis it

said alopecia. It continued to come out and he gave me Rogaine but said it probably would not help....it didn't. Then he gave me a pill that almost

killed me. By this time I quit seeing him because I had started having loads

of other problems. I decided to stop all that I was doing and follow a simple

plan....juicing and lots of barley and alot of my food raw....no meat or dairy

products and NO JUNK FOOD. I had started seeing another MD and he said my hair would never grow back. I continued on my simple plan. About

8 months later I noticed fuzz growing on the nape of my neck and then it seemed like over night my hair just jumped in. Now it is very thick like it before.

The doc was shocked and also my health problems also started getting

better.

Edith

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>I assumed your hairloss was from hypothyroid. Mine is called androgenetic alopecia.

Why do you think so? Did a doctor tell you that? I heard that one as well, from a hair loss "expert". The same guy said "it's not your thyroid" and "medication won't help" and "use Rogaine". Obviously he was wrong.

This is just my opinion, but I think that "androgenetic alopecia" and "telogen effluvium" are doctor-speak for "your hair's falling out and we don't know why".

Please check out the list of symptoms on the Mercola adrenals page and see how many you have or have had. Your adrenals could well be at fault here.

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www.mercola.com He also has a great nutritional plan on there!

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Please check out the list of symptoms on the Mercola adrenals page and see how many you have or have had. Your adrenals could well be at fault here.Can you please send the address of this page? Thanks! Hannah

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, I was diognosed by the foremost hairloss expert in The country,

or one the the most. She is in SF. UCSF. She has written many

articles on alopecia, etc. Very well respected. Dr. Vera Price.

I would love you have been misdiognosed, but I believe her. Thank you.

Happy Springtime!!

Love,

Reneé and Jerry