Re: this is a lil odd

[Guest guest]

hey, no problem. it's really fine with me. some people on this forum give me

advice. some i take; some i don't. all i can do is pass along what worked for

me. i have nothing else to offer. hugs, sheila

Kim <kckim@...> wrote:

sorry i am pmsing badly... i tried the dont go into starvation diet and that

didnt work for me.

Re: this is a lil odd

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>

> > Kim, everything Chriss said here is right on target!

> >

> > Like i said in a post a couple of days ago, when i saw my

> dietician/nutritionist, she told me that the doctors who were telling me i

> needed to be on an 800, 900, 1000 calorie diet were basically putting my

> body in starvation mode.

> >

> > i was 300 pounds at the time. maybe more. the scale only went up to 300

so

> who knows. anyway, she said a 300 pound person who wants to lose weight

HAS

> to consume more energy (calories) than 150 pound person who wants to lose

> weight.

> >

> > Now, she didn't have me counting calories or fat or anything else. She

had

> me look at the pyramid and told me approximately how many servings of each

i

> needed to be eating. and i forget how many calories that was equivalent

to,

> but it was crazy. It was over 2,000 though. I thought she was nuts, but

she

> just asked me what did I have to lose? I had listened to the doctors and

> followed their diets and their advice and it never worked. I was scared I

> was going to just gain, gain, gain, and never stop, but she assured me

that

> would NOT happen. She said doctors just tell their patients to go on these

> diets without being trained. She said the reason i never lost weight is

> because my body was not getting enough energy to do all though basic

> functions and went into conservation mode. it was going to hold onto every

> ounce of fat i had!

> >

> > It worked. I went from 300 pounds to 135 pounds.

> >

> > What Chriss said about having a change of attitude is right on, too!

> Before I thought food was bad, bad, bad! Food is fuel. It's energy. My

> nutritionist/dietician helped me change a lot of attitudes, and boy did

that

> help a lot, too.

> >

> > I'm not trying to sound preachy to you, and I'm not trying to tell you

> what to do. It's your choice. It's your body; it's your life. All i know

is

> NOTHING ever worked for me before.

> >

> > I don't like to give out advice, but I believe dieticians and

> nutritionists can be very helpful. They can educate us; they can support

us;

> and they can help us find a way to lose weight and still be healthy. i

> believe they can help you.

> >

> > My two cents...from someone who was as obese as they come....Hugs,

Sheila

> >

> >

> > Aprilcupcake@... wrote:

> > How much do you weigh now? I can't believe you are only on

> > 900 calories a day. Are you being supervised by your doctor?

> >

> > If you do not get adequate calories for your weight, you will

> > continue to store those calories and then some.

> >

> > Your body will interpret this restriction as " famine " .

> > and everything you take in will be saved for later.

> > Making it even harder to lose. Your metabolism

> > will slow down in an effort to " conserve " energy until

> > the famine has passed.

> >

> > Your body needs a fair amount of calories to just do

> > what it has to. Like keeping warm, and repairing

> > muscle, digesting, walking, growing etc....

> > It is very important to supply the right calories

> > for these functions to take place. And then if

> > you are very active, it requires even more.

> >

> > Perhaps a change in attitude regarding food is

> > needed. After all, it is ONLY FUEL.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

sounds like my stubborn body. I seem to always be restricting my carbs just to

keep from gaining. Or if I do loose a few pounds they seem to find their way

right back.

I had that horrible flu for several days and what I did lose from all that

" purging " was apparently water loss. As soon as I was able to eat and drink

again I was right back to my " normal " weight. Such a shame to have been so sick

and have lost nothing for all my misery.

Re: this is a lil odd

[Guest guest]

i lsoe nothing too

Re: this is a lil odd

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[Guest guest]

Stinks doesn't it. I have an appointment Feb 11th with a woman doctor here who

is suppose to be good with all the hormones in the body. She doesn't take any

insurance so I hope she is really good.

My adrenal gland is apparently sluggish too. I had a doc who tested all the

hormones and my Dhea and progesteron were low and my glucose was high, plus my

thyroid was on the very low end of normal. She said that all adds up to an

adrenal gland that is barely working. I just start taking some Adrenal

Rebuilder and lost 8 lbs this past month. Then I gained 4 lbs back but then the

later part of this week I dropped 4 again.

I hope it continues but usually if I lose it finds me so I don't like to say I

lost anything. I mean if it was lost how would it find it's way back? LOL

My bad cholesterol is in the very upper 200's while the good stuff is low. I am

now diabetic. Last time I tested my fasting sugar was 222. I know something is

wrong. Most of the hair on top of my head is missing.

I can't lose weight, my eyes blurr, I have allergies galore, no energy, I ache,

(muscle pain) I hurt (bone and joint pain), I have a rash on my upper right arm,

I break out in hives on a regular basis now when I eat certain foods and also

when I take some (?) supplement. I haven't been able to figure out which

supplement is doing that.

I had undiagnoised Celiac Disease for years. Sometimes I have a feeling I will

never be well again. But I keep hoping.

Re: this is a lil odd

> sounds like my stubborn body. I seem to always be restricting my carbs

just to keep from gaining. Or if I do loose a few pounds they seem to find

their way right back.

>

> I had that horrible flu for several days and what I did lose from all that

" purging " was apparently water loss. As soon as I was able to eat and drink

again I was right back to my " normal " weight. Such a shame to have been so

sick and have lost nothing for all my misery.

>

[Guest guest]

were you trying to lsoe weight or the adrenal rebuilder just did it? is

adreanl rebuilder safe for ppl who dont know if they have an adrenal

problem.. or is there a site which says the symptoms?

Re: this is a lil odd

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>

> > sounds like my stubborn body. I seem to always be restricting my

carbs

> just to keep from gaining. Or if I do loose a few pounds they seem to

find

> their way right back.

> >

> > I had that horrible flu for several days and what I did lose from all

that

> " purging " was apparently water loss. As soon as I was able to eat and

drink

> again I was right back to my " normal " weight. Such a shame to have been

so

> sick and have lost nothing for all my misery.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yikes, there is a site that tells the symptoms of Adrenal, Thyroid and also

mentions that sometime you can have a mixture. Let me see if I can find it.

http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp See if this link will take you right

too it. I saved this for my son as he has a lot of problems.

As for the weight, the adrenal Rebuilder had to be what made me loose. I was

off my diet for about a month and a half. I was eating stuff that should have

made me gain for sure. I was overloading on carbs. Baked potato, fries, pinto

beans, rice pizza crust. I had baked potato and a huge steak one night and then

two nights later I had a double classic hambuger and huge order of fries. Plus

I ate cereal and some other carbs that week. Red meat and any startcy type

carbs usually make me gain like crazy.

You can do a search on google for adrenal symptoms and also when I first joined

this list I went back and started reading all the e-mail post from the

beginning. I knew I had an adrenal problem from some test a doctor ran on me a

couple of years ago. She was treating me for fibro and CFS. She did a whole

panerama of test. Some through a reg lab and then other test through a couple

of other labs. One was a Cellmate Wellness System and the other was The Great

Smokey Lab. She had me on a lot of different things. Electolytes, amnio acids,

minerals, synthroid, Dhea, Vit B 12 and other B Vitamins, and progesterone. But

my test always came back low on the adrenal gland and thyroid. She wouldn't

give me anything but synthrodid.

I first learned about the adrenal and thyroid connection on a Celiac Support

Group I am on. So i did a search for Adrenal and Thyroid on Google and this

support group came up.

Re: this is a lil odd

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> > sounds like my stubborn body. I seem to always be restricting my

carbs

> just to keep from gaining. Or if I do loose a few pounds they seem to

find

> their way right back.

> >

> > I had that horrible flu for several days and what I did lose from all

that

> " purging " was apparently water loss. As soon as I was able to eat and

drink

> again I was right back to my " normal " weight. Such a shame to have been

so

> sick and have lost nothing for all my misery.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

this is one of our favorites sites here --also on the adrenal fatigue

site they have a good quiz to see where you stand ---this will help

too

http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/burnout.php

> Yikes, there is a site that tells the symptoms of Adrenal, Thyroid

and also mentions that sometime you can have a mixture. Let me see

if I can find it.

>

> http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp See if this link will

take you right too it. I saved this for my son as he has a lot of

problems.

>

> As for the weight, the adrenal Rebuilder had to be what made me

loose. I was off my diet for about a month and a half. I was eating

stuff that should have made me gain for sure. I was overloading on

carbs. Baked potato, fries, pinto beans, rice pizza crust. I had

baked potato and a huge steak one night and then two nights later I

had a double classic hambuger and huge order of fries. Plus I ate

cereal and some other carbs that week. Red meat and any startcy type

carbs usually make me gain like crazy.

>

> You can do a search on google for adrenal symptoms and also when I

first joined this list I went back and started reading all the e-mail

post from the beginning. I knew I had an adrenal problem from some

test a doctor ran on me a couple of years ago. She was treating me

for fibro and CFS. She did a whole panerama of test. Some through a

reg lab and then other test through a couple of other labs. One was

a Cellmate Wellness System and the other was The Great Smokey Lab.

She had me on a lot of different things. Electolytes, amnio acids,

minerals, synthroid, Dhea, Vit B 12 and other B Vitamins, and

progesterone. But my test always came back low on the adrenal gland

and thyroid. She wouldn't give me anything but synthrodid.

>

> I first learned about the adrenal and thyroid connection on a

Celiac Support Group I am on. So i did a search for Adrenal and

Thyroid on Google and this support group came up.

> Re: this is a lil odd

> >

> >

> > > sounds like my stubborn body. I seem to always be

restricting my

> carbs

> > just to keep from gaining. Or if I do loose a few pounds

they seem to

> find

> > their way right back.

> > >

> > > I had that horrible flu for several days and what I did

lose from all

> that

> > " purging " was apparently water loss. As soon as I was able

to eat and

> drink

> > again I was right back to my " normal " weight. Such a shame

to have been

> so

> > sick and have lost nothing for all my misery.

> > >

> >

> >