Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 because the soy is blocking your meds?? Lynda this is a lil odd > i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy > shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no > reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using > medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why > am i crying???? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 what lynda said is a definite possibility. you can take your thyroid medicine every day but if you're consuming too much soy, then your medicine may not be able to work the way it should. soy DOES interfere with thyroid medication. Here's some links so you can check it out for yourself: http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/index.htm http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/soytest.htm I used to consume so much soy it wasn't funny. I was vegetarian most of my life. I'm sure it contributed to my thyroid problems. i would suggest you work with a nutritionist or dietician who will look at your health issues, as well as your personal likes and dislike, in order to help you find a healthy way of eating which would promote weight loss. I don't know what your story is, but I hear some desperation to lose voice, and I certainly understand that. I've been there. I went to a dietician/nutritionist years ago, and she helped me more than I can possibly say. Most doctors don't know beans about nutrition; most of them don't even take one class in college on nutrition. My doctors had me on 800-1000 calorie diets. My nutritionist said that was WAY not enough energy for me; it was throwing my body into starvation mode so I couldn't lose weight. After years of being desperate to lose weight, I finally decided to trust someone-this nutritionist. I went from 300 pounds to 135 pounds. Granted, I don't think i had a thyroid problem at this time. but after years of struggling to lose weight, it finally happened. She showed me a way i could eat healthy and not be hungry. Having a thyroid problem can make things a little trickier, in my opinion. There are certain foods we should avoid: soy and other goitrens (are you aware of them?). many of us on this forum struggle with losing weight because of our thyroid problem. I think that's all the more reason to seek the professional help of a dietician. I saw mine at the local health department because I was in college and couldn't afford anyone else. it cost me like a buck or two every time i saw her, and it was worth every penny (and more!). Anyway, that's my two cents. all i can say is it worked for me. Hang in! Hugs, Sheila Kim <kckim@...> wrote: i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why am i crying???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 because soy is suppose to MAKE you more hypo.. this is a lil odd > > > > i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign > soy > > shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry > for no > > reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im > using > > medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. > but why > > am i crying???? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 I do not know what a goitrin is.. its funn i was a vegetarian for 12 years most all my youth.. and loved tofu...thing is i dont ahve time for this!!! i have an important date in 6 months ( i am well disciplined and eat only 900 calories a day i tried 1200 but i was only losing like 3 pounds a month and at that rate it would take me till im dead to not be obese ( Re: this is a lil odd > what lynda said is a definite possibility. you can take your thyroid medicine every day but if you're consuming too much soy, then your medicine may not be able to work the way it should. soy DOES interfere with thyroid medication. > > Here's some links so you can check it out for yourself: > > http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/index.htm > > http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/soytest.htm > > I used to consume so much soy it wasn't funny. I was vegetarian most of my life. I'm sure it contributed to my thyroid problems. > > i would suggest you work with a nutritionist or dietician who will look at your health issues, as well as your personal likes and dislike, in order to help you find a healthy way of eating which would promote weight loss. I don't know what your story is, but I hear some desperation to lose voice, and I certainly understand that. I've been there. > > I went to a dietician/nutritionist years ago, and she helped me more than I can possibly say. Most doctors don't know beans about nutrition; most of them don't even take one class in college on nutrition. My doctors had me on 800-1000 calorie diets. My nutritionist said that was WAY not enough energy for me; it was throwing my body into starvation mode so I couldn't lose weight. > > After years of being desperate to lose weight, I finally decided to trust someone-this nutritionist. I went from 300 pounds to 135 pounds. Granted, I don't think i had a thyroid problem at this time. but after years of struggling to lose weight, it finally happened. She showed me a way i could eat healthy and not be hungry. > > Having a thyroid problem can make things a little trickier, in my opinion. There are certain foods we should avoid: soy and other goitrens (are you aware of them?). many of us on this forum struggle with losing weight because of our thyroid problem. I think that's all the more reason to seek the professional help of a dietician. > > I saw mine at the local health department because I was in college and couldn't afford anyone else. it cost me like a buck or two every time i saw her, and it was worth every penny (and more!). > > Anyway, that's my two cents. all i can say is it worked for me. > > Hang in! Hugs, Sheila > > > > Kim <kckim@...> wrote: > i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy > shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no > reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using > medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why > am i crying???? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 You are on medifast shakes?? I was on that several years ago when I was a teenager and I am almost postive that it was told that those drinks are not good for you that is why my mom took me off of them- Yes they help you lose weight --LOTs of weight but once you stop taking the shakes you weight comes back-- fast! My aunt also was taking them she weight I guess around 200 pounds and she went do to 130 pounds- once she stoped taking them she went back up and now she is at 230 pounds- I hope you can find another way to lose weight- I heard the adkins diet is good- I just recently started doing the adkins diet so I am not sure yet on the results- I will keep you updated- and about the crying I am not sure why that is going on- When I took medifast I dont recall it making me do that- I cant remember- being heavy all together is so depressing so it may be depressing you becasue of that- I weight 250 pounds and I am depressed because of it- But I keep walking and think in my head each day that goes by is a day closer to me being skinny-- that is truthfully what gets me through the days! keisha best of luck Kim <kckim@...> wrote: i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why am i crying???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 yea but its my only option right now.. i didnt lose ANY weight on atkins.. closest i ever lsot weight was 3 pounds a month on slimfast... but im not losing on medifast either.. what does THAT say about my thyroid 900 cals a day and not losing weight? sheesh~~~ Re: this is a lil odd > You are on medifast shakes?? I was on that several years ago when I was a teenager and I am almost postive that it was told that those drinks are not good for you that is why my mom took me off of them- Yes they help you lose weight --LOTs of weight but once you stop taking the shakes you weight comes back-- fast! My aunt also was taking them she weight I guess around 200 pounds and she went do to 130 pounds- once she stoped taking them she went back up and now she is at 230 pounds- I hope you can find another way to lose weight- I heard the adkins diet is good- I just recently started doing the adkins diet so I am not sure yet on the results- I will keep you updated- and about the crying I am not sure why that is going on- When I took medifast I dont recall it making me do that- I cant remember- being heavy all together is so depressing so it may be depressing you becasue of that- I weight 250 pounds and I am depressed because of it- But I keep walking and think in my head each day > that goes by is a day closer to me being skinny-- that is truthfully what gets me through the days! keisha > best of luck > > Kim <kckim@...> wrote: > i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy > shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no > reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using > medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why > am i crying???? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 btw medifast is dr prescribed and dr is suppose to watch you... i dunno... no diet wrks for me Re: this is a lil odd > You are on medifast shakes?? I was on that several years ago when I was a teenager and I am almost postive that it was told that those drinks are not good for you that is why my mom took me off of them- Yes they help you lose weight --LOTs of weight but once you stop taking the shakes you weight comes back-- fast! My aunt also was taking them she weight I guess around 200 pounds and she went do to 130 pounds- once she stoped taking them she went back up and now she is at 230 pounds- I hope you can find another way to lose weight- I heard the adkins diet is good- I just recently started doing the adkins diet so I am not sure yet on the results- I will keep you updated- and about the crying I am not sure why that is going on- When I took medifast I dont recall it making me do that- I cant remember- being heavy all together is so depressing so it may be depressing you becasue of that- I weight 250 pounds and I am depressed because of it- But I keep walking and think in my head each day > that goes by is a day closer to me being skinny-- that is truthfully what gets me through the days! keisha > best of luck > > Kim <kckim@...> wrote: > i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy > shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no > reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using > medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why > am i crying???? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Too many carbs puts me in a crying jag. If you find Atkins to strick you might want to check into The Carbohydrate Addicts Lifespan Program by and Heller. It is a restricted carb diet but one meal a day you can eat a carb in proportion to the rest of you food selections. Re: this is a lil odd You are on medifast shakes?? I was on that several years ago when I was a teenager and I am almost postive that it was told that those drinks are not good for you that is why my mom took me off of them- Yes they help you lose weight --LOTs of weight but once you stop taking the shakes you weight comes back-- fast! My aunt also was taking them she weight I guess around 200 pounds and she went do to 130 pounds- once she stoped taking them she went back up and now she is at 230 pounds- I hope you can find another way to lose weight- I heard the adkins diet is good- I just recently started doing the adkins diet so I am not sure yet on the results- I will keep you updated- and about the crying I am not sure why that is going on- When I took medifast I dont recall it making me do that- I cant remember- being heavy all together is so depressing so it may be depressing you becasue of that- I weight 250 pounds and I am depressed because of it- But I keep walking and think in my head each day that goes by is a day closer to me being skinny-- that is truthfully what gets me through the days! keisha best of luck Kim <kckim@...> wrote: i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why am i crying???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 How long have you been on medifast? Normally you lose weight in about one month and it goes fast- But like I said once you stop taking the shake it will come all back and more- I hope you can find other ways to lose the weight, I will pray for you- I know exactly whre you are coming from I have been heavey most of my life and it really does suck! I will tell you there is a drug called at The GNC store- called Herbal Phen fen's it is not bad for you- I was on that for a while and I lost 70 pounds in 3 months!!! But I will tell you---- you realy wont eat! nothng hardly! I would eat a kids meal from mcdonalds ever day once a day only-- and you will sleep all the time-- It makes you tired an drained- It is like 28.00 per bottle the bottle last for two weeks! I had to stop taking it because I foundout i had high blood pressure- But it more then likely will interfer with your thyroid meds- Every thing seems to interact with the meds in some way-- lol-- and honestly your thyroid meds are so much important- it really controls your body and on how it does- I hope things work out for you-- what area are you from?? I am in indiana- well hope things go good for you- keisha Kim <kckim@...> wrote:yea but its my only option right now.. i didnt lose ANY weight on atkins.. closest i ever lsot weight was 3 pounds a month on slimfast... but im not losing on medifast either.. what does THAT say about my thyroid 900 cals a day and not losing weight? sheesh~~~ Re: this is a lil odd > You are on medifast shakes?? I was on that several years ago when I was a teenager and I am almost postive that it was told that those drinks are not good for you that is why my mom took me off of them- Yes they help you lose weight --LOTs of weight but once you stop taking the shakes you weight comes back-- fast! My aunt also was taking them she weight I guess around 200 pounds and she went do to 130 pounds- once she stoped taking them she went back up and now she is at 230 pounds- I hope you can find another way to lose weight- I heard the adkins diet is good- I just recently started doing the adkins diet so I am not sure yet on the results- I will keep you updated- and about the crying I am not sure why that is going on- When I took medifast I dont recall it making me do that- I cant remember- being heavy all together is so depressing so it may be depressing you becasue of that- I weight 250 pounds and I am depressed because of it- But I keep walking and think in my head each day > that goes by is a day closer to me being skinny-- that is truthfully what gets me through the days! keisha > best of luck > > Kim <kckim@...> wrote: > i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy > shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no > reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using > medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why > am i crying???? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 yeah you are right, it is doc prescribed- I know years ago my doc went out of business because of it- You may want to do some research on line about it- I am not sure- I have noticed those in exsperience doctors are not always right and they dont always make the right decisions- they just like to make the big bucks-- know what I mean- they may have came up with something to correct the medifast I mean I havent heard about it in atleast 10 years- so I dont know- keisha Kim <kckim@...> wrote:btw medifast is dr prescribed and dr is suppose to watch you... i dunno... no diet wrks for me Re: this is a lil odd > You are on medifast shakes?? I was on that several years ago when I was a teenager and I am almost postive that it was told that those drinks are not good for you that is why my mom took me off of them- Yes they help you lose weight --LOTs of weight but once you stop taking the shakes you weight comes back-- fast! My aunt also was taking them she weight I guess around 200 pounds and she went do to 130 pounds- once she stoped taking them she went back up and now she is at 230 pounds- I hope you can find another way to lose weight- I heard the adkins diet is good- I just recently started doing the adkins diet so I am not sure yet on the results- I will keep you updated- and about the crying I am not sure why that is going on- When I took medifast I dont recall it making me do that- I cant remember- being heavy all together is so depressing so it may be depressing you becasue of that- I weight 250 pounds and I am depressed because of it- But I keep walking and think in my head each day > that goes by is a day closer to me being skinny-- that is truthfully what gets me through the days! keisha > best of luck > > Kim <kckim@...> wrote: > i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy > shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no > reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using > medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why > am i crying???? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 i dont find it too strict.. it made me sick but i stayed on it for 2 months with 0 weight loss Re: this is a lil odd > > > You are on medifast shakes?? I was on that several years ago when I was a teenager and I am almost postive that it was told that those drinks are not good for you that is why my mom took me off of them- Yes they help you lose weight --LOTs of weight but once you stop taking the shakes you weight comes back-- fast! My aunt also was taking them she weight I guess around 200 pounds and she went do to 130 pounds- once she stoped taking them she went back up and now she is at 230 pounds- I hope you can find another way to lose weight- I heard the adkins diet is good- I just recently started doing the adkins diet so I am not sure yet on the results- I will keep you updated- and about the crying I am not sure why that is going on- When I took medifast I dont recall it making me do that- I cant remember- being heavy all together is so depressing so it may be depressing you becasue of that- I weight 250 pounds and I am depressed because of it- But I keep walking and think in my head each day > that goes by is a day closer to me being skinny-- that is truthfully what gets me through the days! keisha > best of luck > > Kim <kckim@...> wrote: > i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy > shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no > reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using > medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why > am i crying???? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 im from oregon.. i think im gonna badon it nad try hmr? i dunno.. something anyway Re: this is a lil odd > > > > You are on medifast shakes?? I was on that several years ago when I was a > teenager and I am almost postive that it was told that those drinks are not > good for you that is why my mom took me off of them- Yes they help you lose > weight --LOTs of weight but once you stop taking the shakes you weight comes > back-- fast! My aunt also was taking them she weight I guess around 200 > pounds and she went do to 130 pounds- once she stoped taking them she went > back up and now she is at 230 pounds- I hope you can find another way to > lose weight- I heard the adkins diet is good- I just recently started doing > the adkins diet so I am not sure yet on the results- I will keep you > updated- and about the crying I am not sure why that is going on- When I > took medifast I dont recall it making me do that- I cant remember- being > heavy all together is so depressing so it may be depressing you becasue of > that- I weight 250 pounds and I am depressed because of it- But I keep > walking and think in my head each day > > that goes by is a day closer to me being skinny-- that is truthfully what > gets me through the days! keisha > > best of luck > > > > Kim <kckim@...> wrote: > > i know soy is bad for hypo but i HAVE to lose weight and am drinkign soy > > shakes.. anyway when i am on them for about a week i start to cry for no > > reason.. i mean i dot hat anyway but its worse when on soy.. im using > > medifast right now and i just cant go off my diet im way too fat.. but why > > am i crying???? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Check out " The Paleo Diet " by Dr. Loren Cordain. Full of wonderful information, easy to read, and recipies. This book goes into detail regarding human physiology and what we are designed to thrive on! It has made a tremendous improvement in my life.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 How much do you weigh now? I can't believe you are only on 900 calories a day. Are you being supervised by your doctor? If you do not get adequate calories for your weight, you will continue to store those calories and then some. Your body will interpret this restriction as " famine " . and everything you take in will be saved for later. Making it even harder to lose. Your metabolism will slow down in an effort to " conserve " energy until the famine has passed. Your body needs a fair amount of calories to just do what it has to. Like keeping warm, and repairing muscle, digesting, walking, growing etc.... It is very important to supply the right calories for these functions to take place. And then if you are very active, it requires even more. Perhaps a change in attitude regarding food is needed. After all, it is ONLY FUEL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Kim, everything Chriss said here is right on target! Like i said in a post a couple of days ago, when i saw my dietician/nutritionist, she told me that the doctors who were telling me i needed to be on an 800, 900, 1000 calorie diet were basically putting my body in starvation mode. i was 300 pounds at the time. maybe more. the scale only went up to 300 so who knows. anyway, she said a 300 pound person who wants to lose weight HAS to consume more energy (calories) than 150 pound person who wants to lose weight. Now, she didn't have me counting calories or fat or anything else. She had me look at the pyramid and told me approximately how many servings of each i needed to be eating. and i forget how many calories that was equivalent to, but it was crazy. It was over 2,000 though. I thought she was nuts, but she just asked me what did I have to lose? I had listened to the doctors and followed their diets and their advice and it never worked. I was scared I was going to just gain, gain, gain, and never stop, but she assured me that would NOT happen. She said doctors just tell their patients to go on these diets without being trained. She said the reason i never lost weight is because my body was not getting enough energy to do all though basic functions and went into conservation mode. it was going to hold onto every ounce of fat i had! It worked. I went from 300 pounds to 135 pounds. What Chriss said about having a change of attitude is right on, too! Before I thought food was bad, bad, bad! Food is fuel. It's energy. My nutritionist/dietician helped me change a lot of attitudes, and boy did that help a lot, too. I'm not trying to sound preachy to you, and I'm not trying to tell you what to do. It's your choice. It's your body; it's your life. All i know is NOTHING ever worked for me before. I don't like to give out advice, but I believe dieticians and nutritionists can be very helpful. They can educate us; they can support us; and they can help us find a way to lose weight and still be healthy. i believe they can help you. My two cents...from someone who was as obese as they come....Hugs, Sheila Aprilcupcake@... wrote: How much do you weigh now? I can't believe you are only on 900 calories a day. Are you being supervised by your doctor? If you do not get adequate calories for your weight, you will continue to store those calories and then some. Your body will interpret this restriction as " famine " . and everything you take in will be saved for later. Making it even harder to lose. Your metabolism will slow down in an effort to " conserve " energy until the famine has passed. Your body needs a fair amount of calories to just do what it has to. Like keeping warm, and repairing muscle, digesting, walking, growing etc.... It is very important to supply the right calories for these functions to take place. And then if you are very active, it requires even more. Perhaps a change in attitude regarding food is needed. After all, it is ONLY FUEL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Ethiopians also have the opportunity for movement in their day. No TV, video games, cars etc... Not to mention the fact that do NOT eat what they are not intended by nature to eat. Lack of water is primary to their condition. They cannot grow what they need or nurture livestock in their environment. Consider the health problems that they have because of NO calories....Their bodies literally feed off of themselves. Of course you HAVE to lose, but weight is not the only thing that is lost! I would not strive for the Ethiopian diet. It is very simple really. It just takes commitment. And in some of our cases some medical intervention with thyroid meds. But, the bulk of it is our choice. If we had the same attitude about food as other less developed places we too would be better off. But for us it represents too much. We use it for comfort, and for social purposes When we are bored, when we are stressed, when we need a reward, what do we do? We EAT.... I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 By attitude, I meant something like this.... Next time you are hungry.... Don't ask yourself what you WANT. Ask yourself what you NEED... What have you not given yourself enough of. Protien, vegis, water etc.... And then decide what to feed yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 i have no attitude towards food.. yes it is supervised i have dr call ins twice weekly plus a health advisor ect.. thing is on 900 (they actually recommend 500 calories) anyone should lose weight.. doesnt matter if you go into starvation mode you HAVE to lose at that set calories the worst hypo you only lose 3 pounds a month.. which is whats happening to me (gastro bipass surgeries only get like 300-400 calories for like 6 weeks a day) Re: this is a lil odd > How much do you weigh now? I can't believe you are only on > 900 calories a day. Are you being supervised by your doctor? > > If you do not get adequate calories for your weight, you will > continue to store those calories and then some. > > Your body will interpret this restriction as " famine " . > and everything you take in will be saved for later. > Making it even harder to lose. Your metabolism > will slow down in an effort to " conserve " energy until > the famine has passed. > > Your body needs a fair amount of calories to just do > what it has to. Like keeping warm, and repairing > muscle, digesting, walking, growing etc.... > It is very important to supply the right calories > for these functions to take place. And then if > you are very active, it requires even more. > > Perhaps a change in attitude regarding food is > needed. After all, it is ONLY FUEL. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 doesnt matter you dont see ethopians that weigh 500 pounds.. if you eat less you HAVE to lose.. i been on 1200-1400 alll last year nad its not good enough *sigh*.. read Is your thyroid making you fat? that book says the same thing.. i know what works for me and no way in heck could i eat 2000 cals.. without gaining 20 pounds a day literally Re: this is a lil odd > Kim, everything Chriss said here is right on target! > > Like i said in a post a couple of days ago, when i saw my dietician/nutritionist, she told me that the doctors who were telling me i needed to be on an 800, 900, 1000 calorie diet were basically putting my body in starvation mode. > > i was 300 pounds at the time. maybe more. the scale only went up to 300 so who knows. anyway, she said a 300 pound person who wants to lose weight HAS to consume more energy (calories) than 150 pound person who wants to lose weight. > > Now, she didn't have me counting calories or fat or anything else. She had me look at the pyramid and told me approximately how many servings of each i needed to be eating. and i forget how many calories that was equivalent to, but it was crazy. It was over 2,000 though. I thought she was nuts, but she just asked me what did I have to lose? I had listened to the doctors and followed their diets and their advice and it never worked. I was scared I was going to just gain, gain, gain, and never stop, but she assured me that would NOT happen. She said doctors just tell their patients to go on these diets without being trained. She said the reason i never lost weight is because my body was not getting enough energy to do all though basic functions and went into conservation mode. it was going to hold onto every ounce of fat i had! > > It worked. I went from 300 pounds to 135 pounds. > > What Chriss said about having a change of attitude is right on, too! Before I thought food was bad, bad, bad! Food is fuel. It's energy. My nutritionist/dietician helped me change a lot of attitudes, and boy did that help a lot, too. > > I'm not trying to sound preachy to you, and I'm not trying to tell you what to do. It's your choice. It's your body; it's your life. All i know is NOTHING ever worked for me before. > > I don't like to give out advice, but I believe dieticians and nutritionists can be very helpful. They can educate us; they can support us; and they can help us find a way to lose weight and still be healthy. i believe they can help you. > > My two cents...from someone who was as obese as they come....Hugs, Sheila > > > Aprilcupcake@... wrote: > How much do you weigh now? I can't believe you are only on > 900 calories a day. Are you being supervised by your doctor? > > If you do not get adequate calories for your weight, you will > continue to store those calories and then some. > > Your body will interpret this restriction as " famine " . > and everything you take in will be saved for later. > Making it even harder to lose. Your metabolism > will slow down in an effort to " conserve " energy until > the famine has passed. > > Your body needs a fair amount of calories to just do > what it has to. Like keeping warm, and repairing > muscle, digesting, walking, growing etc.... > It is very important to supply the right calories > for these functions to take place. And then if > you are very active, it requires even more. > > Perhaps a change in attitude regarding food is > needed. After all, it is ONLY FUEL. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 sorry i am pmsing badly... i tried the dont go into starvation diet and that didnt work for me. Re: this is a lil odd > > > > Kim, everything Chriss said here is right on target! > > > > Like i said in a post a couple of days ago, when i saw my > dietician/nutritionist, she told me that the doctors who were telling me i > needed to be on an 800, 900, 1000 calorie diet were basically putting my > body in starvation mode. > > > > i was 300 pounds at the time. maybe more. the scale only went up to 300 so > who knows. anyway, she said a 300 pound person who wants to lose weight HAS > to consume more energy (calories) than 150 pound person who wants to lose > weight. > > > > Now, she didn't have me counting calories or fat or anything else. She had > me look at the pyramid and told me approximately how many servings of each i > needed to be eating. and i forget how many calories that was equivalent to, > but it was crazy. It was over 2,000 though. I thought she was nuts, but she > just asked me what did I have to lose? I had listened to the doctors and > followed their diets and their advice and it never worked. I was scared I > was going to just gain, gain, gain, and never stop, but she assured me that > would NOT happen. She said doctors just tell their patients to go on these > diets without being trained. She said the reason i never lost weight is > because my body was not getting enough energy to do all though basic > functions and went into conservation mode. it was going to hold onto every > ounce of fat i had! > > > > It worked. I went from 300 pounds to 135 pounds. > > > > What Chriss said about having a change of attitude is right on, too! > Before I thought food was bad, bad, bad! Food is fuel. It's energy. My > nutritionist/dietician helped me change a lot of attitudes, and boy did that > help a lot, too. > > > > I'm not trying to sound preachy to you, and I'm not trying to tell you > what to do. It's your choice. It's your body; it's your life. All i know is > NOTHING ever worked for me before. > > > > I don't like to give out advice, but I believe dieticians and > nutritionists can be very helpful. They can educate us; they can support us; > and they can help us find a way to lose weight and still be healthy. i > believe they can help you. > > > > My two cents...from someone who was as obese as they come....Hugs, Sheila > > > > > > Aprilcupcake@... wrote: > > How much do you weigh now? I can't believe you are only on > > 900 calories a day. Are you being supervised by your doctor? > > > > If you do not get adequate calories for your weight, you will > > continue to store those calories and then some. > > > > Your body will interpret this restriction as " famine " . > > and everything you take in will be saved for later. > > Making it even harder to lose. Your metabolism > > will slow down in an effort to " conserve " energy until > > the famine has passed. > > > > Your body needs a fair amount of calories to just do > > what it has to. Like keeping warm, and repairing > > muscle, digesting, walking, growing etc.... > > It is very important to supply the right calories > > for these functions to take place. And then if > > you are very active, it requires even more. > > > > Perhaps a change in attitude regarding food is > > needed. After all, it is ONLY FUEL. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Have you read J. Shomon's website?? She has alot of info for weight loss and stuff for hypo people. It says on that site that you have to have a certain amount of calories per day in order to lose any weight. As far for gastric bypass surgery - my friend had that done and the only reason they are only allow to eat certain foods is because if they over eat they will get sick. There stomach is alot smaller then normal- I am not sure how much you weight I know for someone who is around 250 pounds there calorie in take is somewhere in between 2500 -3000 carlories a day. If someone only eats 500 carlories a day( basically) starving there self - they may lose weight but they will also lose other stuff as well and once they start to eat regularly they will gain all of it back. and it will drain your body down. You need food in order to function on a daily schedule. and to have engery. About the attitude on food that means, I'll give you an example " : for me " I use to look at food in the outlook as I cant have that I will gain more weight and I wouldnt want to eat ( But of course I did!) and then I would hate myself or the food at that time. But I have learn over the several months since dianosed with hypo- that It isnt what you eat -- it is how much of it you eat> I had to learn to limit myself. So now I eat what I want but just not as much- and I feel better. I hope you find something that works for you- keisha Kim <kckim@...> wrote:i have no attitude towards food.. yes it is supervised i have dr call ins twice weekly plus a health advisor ect.. thing is on 900 (they actually recommend 500 calories) anyone should lose weight.. doesnt matter if you go into starvation mode you HAVE to lose at that set calories the worst hypo you only lose 3 pounds a month.. which is whats happening to me (gastro bipass surgeries only get like 300-400 calories for like 6 weeks a day) Re: this is a lil odd > How much do you weigh now? I can't believe you are only on > 900 calories a day. Are you being supervised by your doctor? > > If you do not get adequate calories for your weight, you will > continue to store those calories and then some. > > Your body will interpret this restriction as " famine " . > and everything you take in will be saved for later. > Making it even harder to lose. Your metabolism > will slow down in an effort to " conserve " energy until > the famine has passed. > > Your body needs a fair amount of calories to just do > what it has to. Like keeping warm, and repairing > muscle, digesting, walking, growing etc.... > It is very important to supply the right calories > for these functions to take place. And then if > you are very active, it requires even more. > > Perhaps a change in attitude regarding food is > needed. After all, it is ONLY FUEL. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 R u excercising with you diet? keisha Kim <kckim@...> wrote:doesnt matter you dont see ethopians that weigh 500 pounds.. if you eat less you HAVE to lose.. i been on 1200-1400 alll last year nad its not good enough *sigh*.. read Is your thyroid making you fat? that book says the same thing.. i know what works for me and no way in heck could i eat 2000 cals.. without gaining 20 pounds a day literally Re: this is a lil odd > Kim, everything Chriss said here is right on target! > > Like i said in a post a couple of days ago, when i saw my dietician/nutritionist, she told me that the doctors who were telling me i needed to be on an 800, 900, 1000 calorie diet were basically putting my body in starvation mode. > > i was 300 pounds at the time. maybe more. the scale only went up to 300 so who knows. anyway, she said a 300 pound person who wants to lose weight HAS to consume more energy (calories) than 150 pound person who wants to lose weight. > > Now, she didn't have me counting calories or fat or anything else. She had me look at the pyramid and told me approximately how many servings of each i needed to be eating. and i forget how many calories that was equivalent to, but it was crazy. It was over 2,000 though. I thought she was nuts, but she just asked me what did I have to lose? I had listened to the doctors and followed their diets and their advice and it never worked. I was scared I was going to just gain, gain, gain, and never stop, but she assured me that would NOT happen. She said doctors just tell their patients to go on these diets without being trained. She said the reason i never lost weight is because my body was not getting enough energy to do all though basic functions and went into conservation mode. it was going to hold onto every ounce of fat i had! > > It worked. I went from 300 pounds to 135 pounds. > > What Chriss said about having a change of attitude is right on, too! Before I thought food was bad, bad, bad! Food is fuel. It's energy. My nutritionist/dietician helped me change a lot of attitudes, and boy did that help a lot, too. > > I'm not trying to sound preachy to you, and I'm not trying to tell you what to do. It's your choice. It's your body; it's your life. All i know is NOTHING ever worked for me before. > > I don't like to give out advice, but I believe dieticians and nutritionists can be very helpful. They can educate us; they can support us; and they can help us find a way to lose weight and still be healthy. i believe they can help you. > > My two cents...from someone who was as obese as they come....Hugs, Sheila > > > Aprilcupcake@... wrote: > How much do you weigh now? I can't believe you are only on > 900 calories a day. Are you being supervised by your doctor? > > If you do not get adequate calories for your weight, you will > continue to store those calories and then some. > > Your body will interpret this restriction as " famine " . > and everything you take in will be saved for later. > Making it even harder to lose. Your metabolism > will slow down in an effort to " conserve " energy until > the famine has passed. > > Your body needs a fair amount of calories to just do > what it has to. Like keeping warm, and repairing > muscle, digesting, walking, growing etc.... > It is very important to supply the right calories > for these functions to take place. And then if > you are very active, it requires even more. > > Perhaps a change in attitude regarding food is > needed. After all, it is ONLY FUEL. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 NOTE FROM MARY: Sorry for the delay in the August issue. I took vacation in August, and then Labor Day weekend was upon me, and then it was “back to school” week, and before you know it, the first week of September is over! Look for a September issue later this month! – Welcome to the eighth issue of " A Weight Off My Mind, " Shomon's email newsletter for thyroid and autoimmune disease patients who are interested in losing weight and feeling better through diet and nutrition. You are receiving this issue because you signed up to receive this free email report. (Note: If you are no longer interested in receiving future issues, or you wish to unsubscribe, email weightoffmymind-unsubscribe@.... If you have something you'd like to see covered in future issues, drop me a line anytime at news@.... IF YOU’VE SENT ME A QUESTION: If you wrote me a personal message or question with your " subscribe " message, I'm afraid that my system automatically pulls out email addresses, so I didn't see your message. Feel free to send it again to me at news@..., with a subject line that doesn’t say “subscribe.” --------------------------------- NEW FOOD GUIDELINES REVISE FOOD AND EXERCISE RECOMMENDATIONS --------------------------------- To meet the body's daily energy and nutritional needs while minimizing risk for chronic disease, adults should get 45 percent to 65 percent of their calories from carbohydrates, 20 percent to 35 percent from fat, and 10 percent to 35 percent from protein, says the newest report on recommendations for healthy eating from the National Academies' Institute of Medicine. To maintain cardiovascular health at a maximal level, regardless of weight, adults and children also should spend a total of at least one hour each day in moderately intense physical activity, which is double the daily goal set by the 1996 Surgeon General's report. Because carbohydrates, fat, and protein all serve as energy sources and can substitute for one another to some extent to meet caloric needs, the recommended ranges for consuming these nutrients should be useful and flexible for dietary planning. Earlier guidelines called for diets with 50 percent or more of carbohydrate and 30 percent or less of fat; protein intake recommendations are the same. The new acceptable ranges for children are similar to those for adults, except that infants and younger children need a slightly higher proportion of fat -- 25 percent to 40 percent of their caloric intake, said the panel that wrote the report. " We established ranges for fat, carbohydrates, and protein because they must be considered together, " said panel chair Joanne Lupton, professor of nutrition, Texas A & M University, College Station. " Studies show that when people eat very low levels of fat combined with very high levels of carbohydrates, high-density lipoprotein concentration, or " good " cholesterol, " decreases. Conversely, high-fat diets can lead to obesity and its complications if caloric intake is increased as well, which is often the case. We believe these ranges will help people make healthy and more realistic choices based on their own food preferences. " The report stresses the importance of balancing diet with exercise, recommending total calories to be consumed by individuals of given heights, weights, and genders for each of four different levels of physical activity. For example, a 30-year-old woman who is 5 feet 5 inches tall and weighs 111 to 150 pounds should consume between 1,800 and 2,000 calories daily if she lives a sedentary lifestyle. However, if she is a very active person, her recommended total caloric intake increases to 2,500 to 2,800 calories per day. If her lifestyle fits the moderately active category as defined in the report, which is the minimum level of activity to decrease risk of chronic disease, she should eat between 2,200 and 2,500 calories daily. Using grams for the recommended ranges of intake, she should consume 55 to 97 grams of fat and 285 to 375 grams of carbohydrates per day. The new one-hour-a-day-total exercise goal stems from studies of how much energy is expended on average each day by individuals who maintain a healthy weight. Energy expenditure is cumulative, including both low-intensity activities of daily life, such as stair climbing and housecleaning, and more vigorous exercise like swimming and cycling. Someone in a largely sedentary occupation can achieve the new exercise goal by engaging in a moderate-intensity activity, such as walking at 4 miles per hour, for a total of 60 minutes every day, or engaging in a high-intensity activity, such as jogging for 20 to 30 minutes four to seven days per week. Keisha <californiakh@...> wrote:R u excercising with you diet? keisha Kim <kckim@...> wrote:doesnt matter you dont see ethopians that weigh 500 pounds.. if you eat less you HAVE to lose.. i been on 1200-1400 alll last year nad its not good enough *sigh*.. read Is your thyroid making you fat? that book says the same thing.. i know what works for me and no way in heck could i eat 2000 cals.. without gaining 20 pounds a day literally Re: this is a lil odd > Kim, everything Chriss said here is right on target! > > Like i said in a post a couple of days ago, when i saw my dietician/nutritionist, she told me that the doctors who were telling me i needed to be on an 800, 900, 1000 calorie diet were basically putting my body in starvation mode. > > i was 300 pounds at the time. maybe more. the scale only went up to 300 so who knows. anyway, she said a 300 pound person who wants to lose weight HAS to consume more energy (calories) than 150 pound person who wants to lose weight. > > Now, she didn't have me counting calories or fat or anything else. She had me look at the pyramid and told me approximately how many servings of each i needed to be eating. and i forget how many calories that was equivalent to, but it was crazy. It was over 2,000 though. I thought she was nuts, but she just asked me what did I have to lose? I had listened to the doctors and followed their diets and their advice and it never worked. I was scared I was going to just gain, gain, gain, and never stop, but she assured me that would NOT happen. She said doctors just tell their patients to go on these diets without being trained. She said the reason i never lost weight is because my body was not getting enough energy to do all though basic functions and went into conservation mode. it was going to hold onto every ounce of fat i had! > > It worked. I went from 300 pounds to 135 pounds. > > What Chriss said about having a change of attitude is right on, too! Before I thought food was bad, bad, bad! Food is fuel. It's energy. My nutritionist/dietician helped me change a lot of attitudes, and boy did that help a lot, too. > > I'm not trying to sound preachy to you, and I'm not trying to tell you what to do. It's your choice. It's your body; it's your life. All i know is NOTHING ever worked for me before. > > I don't like to give out advice, but I believe dieticians and nutritionists can be very helpful. They can educate us; they can support us; and they can help us find a way to lose weight and still be healthy. i believe they can help you. > > My two cents...from someone who was as obese as they come....Hugs, Sheila > > > Aprilcupcake@... wrote: > How much do you weigh now? I can't believe you are only on > 900 calories a day. Are you being supervised by your doctor? > > If you do not get adequate calories for your weight, you will > continue to store those calories and then some. > > Your body will interpret this restriction as " famine " . > and everything you take in will be saved for later. > Making it even harder to lose. Your metabolism > will slow down in an effort to " conserve " energy until > the famine has passed. > > Your body needs a fair amount of calories to just do > what it has to. Like keeping warm, and repairing > muscle, digesting, walking, growing etc.... > It is very important to supply the right calories > for these functions to take place. And then if > you are very active, it requires even more. > > Perhaps a change in attitude regarding food is > needed. After all, it is ONLY FUEL. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 totally agree. keisha- it took me a while to figure that out myself. now i eat better Aprilcupcake@... wrote:By attitude, I meant something like this.... Next time you are hungry.... Don't ask yourself what you WANT. Ask yourself what you NEED... What have you not given yourself enough of. Protien, vegis, water etc.... And then decide what to feed yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 okey dokey. no pressure from me, Kim. it's your body and your life. do what you think is best for you. just passing along my experience and what has worked for me. good luck, sheila Kim <kckim@...> wrote:doesnt matter you dont see ethopians that weigh 500 pounds.. if you eat less you HAVE to lose.. i been on 1200-1400 alll last year nad its not good enough *sigh*.. read Is your thyroid making you fat? that book says the same thing.. i know what works for me and no way in heck could i eat 2000 cals.. without gaining 20 pounds a day literally Re: this is a lil odd > Kim, everything Chriss said here is right on target! > > Like i said in a post a couple of days ago, when i saw my dietician/nutritionist, she told me that the doctors who were telling me i needed to be on an 800, 900, 1000 calorie diet were basically putting my body in starvation mode. > > i was 300 pounds at the time. maybe more. the scale only went up to 300 so who knows. anyway, she said a 300 pound person who wants to lose weight HAS to consume more energy (calories) than 150 pound person who wants to lose weight. > > Now, she didn't have me counting calories or fat or anything else. She had me look at the pyramid and told me approximately how many servings of each i needed to be eating. and i forget how many calories that was equivalent to, but it was crazy. It was over 2,000 though. I thought she was nuts, but she just asked me what did I have to lose? I had listened to the doctors and followed their diets and their advice and it never worked. I was scared I was going to just gain, gain, gain, and never stop, but she assured me that would NOT happen. She said doctors just tell their patients to go on these diets without being trained. She said the reason i never lost weight is because my body was not getting enough energy to do all though basic functions and went into conservation mode. it was going to hold onto every ounce of fat i had! > > It worked. I went from 300 pounds to 135 pounds. > > What Chriss said about having a change of attitude is right on, too! Before I thought food was bad, bad, bad! Food is fuel. It's energy. My nutritionist/dietician helped me change a lot of attitudes, and boy did that help a lot, too. > > I'm not trying to sound preachy to you, and I'm not trying to tell you what to do. It's your choice. It's your body; it's your life. All i know is NOTHING ever worked for me before. > > I don't like to give out advice, but I believe dieticians and nutritionists can be very helpful. They can educate us; they can support us; and they can help us find a way to lose weight and still be healthy. i believe they can help you. > > My two cents...from someone who was as obese as they come....Hugs, Sheila > > > Aprilcupcake@... wrote: > How much do you weigh now? I can't believe you are only on > 900 calories a day. Are you being supervised by your doctor? > > If you do not get adequate calories for your weight, you will > continue to store those calories and then some. > > Your body will interpret this restriction as " famine " . > and everything you take in will be saved for later. > Making it even harder to lose. Your metabolism > will slow down in an effort to " conserve " energy until > the famine has passed. > > Your body needs a fair amount of calories to just do > what it has to. Like keeping warm, and repairing > muscle, digesting, walking, growing etc.... > It is very important to supply the right calories > for these functions to take place. And then if > you are very active, it requires even more. > > Perhaps a change in attitude regarding food is > needed. After all, it is ONLY FUEL. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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