thyrodine

[Guest guest]

Kristilee -

You wrote:

> I'm just curious if any studies have been done to back up the claims that

> are made for the product Thyrodine?? If so could someone direct me to the

> publications that contain them? If no studies have been done, why not?

I have never posted to this list...I joined it trying to learn if there are

some other alternatives available to me other than presciption drugs for my

hypothyroid problem (I'm on 2 grains of Armous...diagnosed at the end of

May). I joined this list after months on two other hypothyroid lists that

are constant and on-going complaint lists about Synthoid, Armour, Cytomel,

Thyrolar, other common drugs for hypothyroid and their side-effects. It

seems that there is almost no one on those lists who feels well or happy, or

have doctors that prescribe anything other than T4 generators. And those

lists can quote lab values with the best of them...

I'm not criticizing those lists, but I joined this list hoping to find

someone who has some alternative solutions to hypothyroid disease because I

sure as heck am not seeing it elsewhere. And it does seem that some people

here ARE finding help with thyrodine...I'm just about ready to give it a

shot. I'd rather be out training my dogs or doing almost anything instead

of reading complaints about thyroid drugs in my research to be feeling

better. Or fights about how vitamins and minerals are not scientifically

provable. I already know that most doctors pay no attention to alternative

therapies if they can help it, but I also know for myself that I feel a

great deal better taking kelp, for instance.

If you want to find out what doesn't work, try a few of the other thyroid

lists. I'm excited to find that people are finding solutions with

'alternatives' here on this one. And I don't need science to tell me how

I'm feeling. I have tried a few of the supplements that are included in

thyrodine just to see if I thought it might help me, and I do feel better.

And anecdotal evidence is the precursor to scientific study, so if there are

people feeling better on thyrodine, doesn't that make you feel better about

it?!

Best,

Karla Spitzer

mailto:kspitzer@...

[Guest guest]

Dear Karla:

I appreciate your feedback about this list, Although I do manufacture

Thyrodine, the reason I make it is because it has helped thousands of my

patients to regain their health and energy. I am but a small clinic with no

appreciable resources. We dont conduct " trials. " What we do is to put people

on supplements and then observe the results. If the results are lacking,

then we improve the remedy. Today, there are several medical clinics in

Arizone, Florida and Oregon and well as Spain and Cyprus regularly ordering

and using Thyrodine. There are possibly 30 naturopathic and medical clinics

using it regularly here in new Zealand.

I too deplore the failure of the synthetics or pig to aid thyroid function

in any way. Thats why I've made the Thyrodine available to this list. If

folks really feel that I'm spamming or laying trips on them, I'll happily

stop sending data about thyroid dysfunction.

best wishes,

Earl

Re: Thyrodine

From: " kspitzer " <kspitzer@...>

Kristilee -

You wrote:

> I'm just curious if any studies have been done to back up the claims that

> are made for the product Thyrodine?? If so could someone direct me to the

> publications that contain them? If no studies have been done, why not?

I have never posted to this list...I joined it trying to learn if there are

some other alternatives available to me other than presciption drugs for my

hypothyroid problem (I'm on 2 grains of Armous...diagnosed at the end of

May). I joined this list after months on two other hypothyroid lists that

are constant and on-going complaint lists about Synthoid, Armour, Cytomel,

Thyrolar, other common drugs for hypothyroid and their side-effects. It

seems that there is almost no one on those lists who feels well or happy, or

have doctors that prescribe anything other than T4 generators. And those

lists can quote lab values with the best of them...

I'm not criticizing those lists, but I joined this list hoping to find

someone who has some alternative solutions to hypothyroid disease because I

sure as heck am not seeing it elsewhere. And it does seem that some people

here ARE finding help with thyrodine...I'm just about ready to give it a

shot. I'd rather be out training my dogs or doing almost anything instead

of reading complaints about thyroid drugs in my research to be feeling

better. Or fights about how vitamins and minerals are not scientifically

provable. I already know that most doctors pay no attention to alternative

therapies if they can help it, but I also know for myself that I feel a

great deal better taking kelp, for instance.

If you want to find out what doesn't work, try a few of the other thyroid

lists. I'm excited to find that people are finding solutions with

'alternatives' here on this one. And I don't need science to tell me how

I'm feeling. I have tried a few of the supplements that are included in

thyrodine just to see if I thought it might help me, and I do feel better.

And anecdotal evidence is the precursor to scientific study, so if there are

people feeling better on thyrodine, doesn't that make you feel better about

it?!

Best,

Karla Spitzer

mailto:kspitzer@...

[Guest guest]

Dear Susie,

I forwarded your posting with the questions you have directly to Earl

Conroy's email address for his attention.

Sincerely,

Ira M. Fine,

list moderator

In a message dated 03/24/2000 12:44:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

fredsus@... writes:

<< Subj: Thyrodine

Date: 03/24/2000 12:44:08 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: fredsus@... (Susie Keener)

Reply-to: hypothyroidismonelist

hypothyroidismonelist

From: " Susie Keener " <fredsus@...>

Hello Earl,

You wrote at length to me about a protocol for me switching over. I just now

switched from synthroid to Armour and will eventually go to the Thyrodine

protocol. I just don't have the money right now to do everything I need to

with the Thyrodine protocol (have Epstein Barr and thyroditis) so I thought

that Armour has to be a little better than synthroid for the interim, here.

I am going to order a bottle for my husband who has been on Armour. My

question....he has abnormal thyroid values..low side of normal, but as far

as I know...no Epstein Barr, candida, etc. When I order a bottle does it

come with explicit directions on how to take it, what to watch for, how long

to take it in a particular case, etc. And does he go right from Armour into

taking Thyrodine? He does have low Dhea despite supplementation, and low

testosterone and he has felt better on Armour but these other symptoms, I

don't think they've resolved. Will he still see more results with the

Thyrodine despite these other conditions?

ALso, anyone else who has used the Thyrodine protocol, please post to the

list as I think this is the only way to go for people with thyroid

conditions. I am glad some of you out there are finally listening and I

would like more testimonies for encouragement. Earl, if you can get some

testimonies that would be great. Do you know approximately how long it takes

to get Thyrodine after ordering on your site??

Susie

>>

[Guest guest]

:

This protocol comes from a natural healing clinic in New Zealand.

It is a protocol I developed in the clinic working with hundreds of

patients.

We have no network.

Heres how the protocol works...

Earl

Pathogenic presence

Our research from other doctors and our clinical experience suggests

strongly that many folks harbour various micro-organisms, from viruses to

bacteria, yeast, fungi to parasites. The most frequent is the herpes family

of viruses. Dr. Hans Nieper, a foremost German heart and cancer specialist

emphasizes that the herpes virus must be elimninated before cancer or any

other disease can be successfully treated. Even with thyroid regeneration,

it is necessary to eliminate pathogenic presence to restore thyroid

function. By utilizing the Thyroid Regeneration Protocol which eliminates

all pathogenic presence, auto-immune dysfunctions, Hashimoto's thyroiditis,

Graves Disease, causes of hyperthyroid, will now respond to Thyrodine to

restore full thyroid function.

The Thyroid Regeneration protocol is as follows.........

Phase I:

1-ImmunoGuard: [a natural antibiotic made from grapefruit seed extract,

colloidal silver, manuka oil,and strongly antibiotic herbs, thuja,

echinacea, olive leaf, artemisia, Pau D'Arco and thyme]. take 12 drops in a

full glass of water 4x a day on an empty stomach...for 10-20 days. Then stop

taking it. Use only for any future infections or inflammations.

2-Intesto-Lin:[consits of: linseed fiber, slippery elm, guar gum, orange and

lemon peel powder, licorice,glutamine and MSM] Take 1 tablespoon in 3/4

glass apple juice before bed and upon arising. Continue taking til gone.

3-Tri-tox herbs: that detox the liver/gall bladder, kidneys and the blood.

4-a liver/gall bladder flush to detox the liver/gall bladder at a depper

level.

5-hot epsom salts baths to detox through the skin

6-skin brushing to further detox through the skin

Phase II:

7-You will then need a probiotic [intestinal bacteria] Lactobacillus-8 Take

3 capsules in juice or water before bed and upon arising, til gone. This

will restore the normal intestinal flora and repair the gut wall.

8-Then...Begin taking Thyrodine at 3 drops in juice or water 10 to 15

minutes before breakfast and before lunch....to fully retore thyroid

function.

9-When starting the Thyrodine you may wish to consider slowly weaning off

any synthetic drugs or hormones. Most folks simply lessen their dosage over

2 to 6 weeks as the Thyrodine is restoring normal thyroid function.

10-Many women who may have estrogen dominance symptoms [PMS, menopausal or

gynecological symptoms, depression] may want to utilize

Progesterone/Catumace spray to raise their progesterone levels and regulate

all other steroid hormones. . Progesterone is a nurturing herb that

minimizes aging changes, bringing about a youthful energy.

11-Our Pro-Catumaca Spray is made from Mexican wild yam by a special

patented process that delivers a natural progesterone which is then

suspended in pure Vitamin E oil. It is emulsified here in New Zealand, has

adrenal stress herbs, anti-oxidant herbs, vitex agnus castus and coleus

forskolii herbs, catumaca and Amazon herbs added to stimulate natural

progesterone synthesis and protects heart and thyroid functions.

8-Catumaca: is an Herbal Hormone Regulator " made from Peruvian maca root,

Brazilian Catuabe root, Chinese Fo-ti root, Brazilian Muira Puama root,

Mexican Damiana leaf, American Ginseng root, Chinese Cordyceps fungus,

Chinese schizandra berries, Brazilian Suma root, Ginger root, Royal Jelly,

adrenal stress herbs, anti-oxidant herbs and vitex agnus castus.

Catumaca will " regulate " the whole hormonal cascade for most women.

Those heavily into estrogen dominance [on 'the pill,' HRT, overweight,

heavily into daity and or meat and sprayed food], may need to take

Pro-Catumaca for maximum results [opposing estrogen dominance, overcoming

PMS, menopausal or gynecological conditions, depression].

12-In cases of low blood sugar [grossly fatigued, sleepy all the time,

bitchy, depressed, irrational, poor cognition or responses, dropping things,

violent or repressed] this indicates deficiencies of zinc, B5, B6,

magnesium, chromium, vanadium. The formula HypoGlyce contains all these

elements which restores blood sugar levels to normal.

13-Amalgam tooth fillings: if these exist in teeth it may be wise to take

the Mercury Elimination prtocol [Chlorella and Vitamin C] to eliminate

,mercury from the trissues until the mercury is removed by a competent

dentist.

14-The Biogenic Nutritional Guide has proven itself to reverse most ill

health problems [enclosed with this program], especially in conjunction with

the above protocol.

best wishes,

Earl

thyrodine

Earl,

Do you sign up other people in your network for the

thyrodine and other products you sell? LIke an MLM?

Or is it just your own thing?

C-MI

>

> Earl,

>

> I'm curious to know more about how this regeneration

> protocol is working for

> you. Is it strictly nutritionally based? Do you

> continue on your regular

> dosage of thyroid medicine? Is it mostly raw food

> based? And supplement

> based? Or do you use T3 like the 's people

> do?

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[Guest guest]

Earl,

Are you saying the herpes family viruses can be

eliminated?? I have always been told by doctors that

was impossible.

C-MI

>The most

> frequent is the herpes family

> of viruses. Dr. Hans Nieper, a foremost German heart

> and cancer specialist

> emphasizes that the herpes virus must be elimninated

> before cancer or any

> other disease can be successfully treated.

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[Guest guest]

:

herpes can be eliminated quite readily.

Medically trained personnel cannot eliminate candida, viruses, nor most

pathogens.

Earl

thyrodine

Earl,

Are you saying the herpes family viruses can be

eliminated?? I have always been told by doctors that

was impossible.

C-MI

>The most

> frequent is the herpes family

> of viruses. Dr. Hans Nieper, a foremost German heart

> and cancer specialist

> emphasizes that the herpes virus must be elimninated

> before cancer or any

> other disease can be successfully treated.

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