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Hi, killroy. Sounds very similar to what I went through about six years ago.

I don't know if you are female or male, but I had a condition known as

Postpartum Thyrotoxicosis. My thyroid gland function would fluctuate

between hyper and hypo. I was HYper when I was having major anxiety

attacks. My doctor then did NOT run thyroid function tests. He assumed

because I had given birth six months prior, that It was a classic case of

depression....

There was nothing classic about it! Anyway, I too was put on antidepressants

of all names and doses, and it only made me worse!

That's because when your thyroid gland is not functioning properly, you

cannot process any of those drugs. They just stay in your body and

poison you. My first dose of Paxil at 40mg put me in the emergency

room. They assumed I had taken too many because my pupils were

dilated and I was unresponsive. I was admitted to the psychiatric unit

of the hospital and kept for seven days.

Upon admission however, they did run a thyroid panel and a C A T scan.

Neither of them were ever read. Just stuck in my file and that was that.

After I was released, I continued to have problems and when I finally got

down to 85lbs and was looking for a train to jump in front of...

I decided to throw away all of the pills and start over!

It took me a good eight months to rid myself of all of the drugs,

But, after that I found someone to listen to me, and the mystery was

solved rather quickly. I am considered HYpothyroid now and I take

100mcg of synthroid everyday never to have those anxiety or depressive

symtoms return!

Many of the first signs of thyroid disfunction are emotional and cognitive.

If you know this is not normal for you... seek help right away. Don't get

sucked into the psychiatric trap.

Happy to help you in any way!

.

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i have severely anxious moments :( im scared to take th synth and am trying

to figure out how to ask for armour instead before trying it.. im scared of

chemically made up drugs and would prefer natural...i find when i am sicker

my anxiety goes even higher..

Am I going crazy or what????????

> Started having anxiety attacks back in December. Would wake up at night

with night terrors. I am

> 44 years old. Always been healthy. Went to the Dr. who said I was

depressed and wanted to

> try me on Zoloft. That stuff made me feel even more anxious and feeble.

Did not want to go

> out, I was afraid of my own shadow it seemed. Off of Zoloft and tried

Effexor. Still could not

> tolerate that even. Next was Paxil. Same results. Dr. did blood test, felt

my neck. Did not seem

> to think it is my thyroid. I sit here wondering and feeling anxiety like

mad. Do not want to take any

> more serretonin reuptake drugs as they make me feel like crap. Anybody

been through all this?

> Feel free to comment. Thanks, Killroy

>

>

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some days i jus shake nad cry all day long :(

Am I going crazy or what????????

> Started having anxiety attacks back in December. Would wake up at night

with night terrors. I am

> 44 years old. Always been healthy. Went to the Dr. who said I was

depressed and wanted to

> try me on Zoloft. That stuff made me feel even more anxious and feeble.

Did not want to go

> out, I was afraid of my own shadow it seemed. Off of Zoloft and tried

Effexor. Still could not

> tolerate that even. Next was Paxil. Same results. Dr. did blood test, felt

my neck. Did not seem

> to think it is my thyroid. I sit here wondering and feeling anxiety like

mad. Do not want to take any

> more serretonin reuptake drugs as they make me feel like crap. Anybody

been through all this?

> Feel free to comment. Thanks, Killroy

>

>

>

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I started my treatment for Hypothyroidism on Armour. It did not work for me.

By the third day on Synthroid, it was as if the lights came on!

Synthroid is molecularly identical to our own T4 and your body cannot

tell the difference. There are suttle differences in Armour however because

it comes from a different animal. Some folks have " allergic " reactions

to it. I for one. It also tended not to be consistent. I know it's

supposed

to be tested etc... but, I would have an ok week and then a bad month.

I have done much better on synthroid. It would not hurt to try both and see

how you do. There are others as well.

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I suggest you go get some good TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) from a wll

experienced chinese doc. It can help your nervous system, every system to

rebalance itself just my moving energy around your body. I worked tremendously

for me as well as for my sleep. I had the same problem as you, IDENTICAL! Could

not sleep because of the terror. I have never been so burned out like this in my

life. I wish you could have seen me before and after. I had to take sleep meds

just to knock me out and Zoloft 50 mg. In October I went and seen a chinese doc

after praying about it incessantly as well as after talking to my friend from

Dallas who is a naturapath and how acupuncture saved her as well as having some

good naturopathy done. She told me to go everyday. I knew I had to be very

compliant and very open if I was to get beyond this illness and leave it behind.

I have had 60 accupuncture treatments up to date going in every day. At the

time I started, I was a nervous wreck. I was crying when I came in. Restless.

Agitated. Angry. Afraid. Scared. Scared about everything for no reason. Horrible

panic attacks and nightmares. Never sleeping for days and months to the point I

needed traquillizers just to relax me. Now I am calm!! I am now off ALL the

sleep meds and sleeping great without having to change anything. My Zoloft is

still the same dose. My psychiatrist is amazed at my improvement. He liked the

idea of acupuncture especially since the WHO (World Health Organization) has

stated there is much scientific evidence behind it. He told me to keep going to

see her. Why not try a 5000 year old medicine and see if it helps with some

things if not all. Knock on all doors. You'll never know what's behind them if

you don't open all of them. I am going to go for more treatments after a rest

and try to go off the Zoloft and also going to be starting T-3 treatment and

adrenal support. All I can say is try the acupuncture for now. Go everyday.

Like I say you may need 4 periods of 15 treatments each, that is about 60. You

may need less than that. You cares about cost. What's your sanity worth? If it

helped me to stay sane from all the burnout I have, it can help anyone. I am

certain I should be dead. Hope that helps.

Chris

Am I going crazy or what????????

Started having anxiety attacks back in December. Would wake up at night with

night terrors. I am

44 years old. Always been healthy. Went to the Dr. who said I was depressed

and wanted to

try me on Zoloft. That stuff made me feel even more anxious and feeble. Did

not want to go

out, I was afraid of my own shadow it seemed. Off of Zoloft and tried Effexor.

Still could not

tolerate that even. Next was Paxil. Same results. Dr. did blood test, felt my

neck. Did not seem

to think it is my thyroid. I sit here wondering and feeling anxiety like mad.

Do not want to take any

more serretonin reuptake drugs as they make me feel like crap. Anybody been

through all this?

Feel free to comment. Thanks, Killroy

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do any of you take anything for anxiety? prescription or herbal?

i've been bad lately - I'm doing way too much. On Saturday, my legs were

actually moving from my nerves (shaking). My friend told me that her dad

takes Tranzene (?sp) only as needed. I definitely wouldn't take something I

had to take every day. My friend also mentioned Kava and Valerian Root.

Any thoughts? :)

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Hi, i went through a period of really bad anxiety before I was diagnosed.

did your doctor run a thyroid panel? just feeling your neck is not enough. Do

you have other symptoms of thyroid problems?

I'm terribly sorry for what you're going through. Hang in. Hugs, Sheila

killroy6 <killroy6_2000@...> wrote:

Started having anxiety attacks back in December. Would wake up at night with

night terrors. I am

44 years old. Always been healthy. Went to the Dr. who said I was depressed and

wanted to

try me on Zoloft. That stuff made me feel even more anxious and feeble. Did not

want to go

out, I was afraid of my own shadow it seemed. Off of Zoloft and tried Effexor.

Still could not

tolerate that even. Next was Paxil. Same results. Dr. did blood test, felt my

neck. Did not seem

to think it is my thyroid. I sit here wondering and feeling anxiety like mad. Do

not want to take any

more serretonin reuptake drugs as they make me feel like crap. Anybody been

through all this?

Feel free to comment. Thanks, Killroy

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you arevery fortunate to have been helped...i have been trying to tell

health care professionals for 27 yrs that i have a hypothyroid problem, but

it never shows up on the tests ...so, i have been on antidepressants for

over 18 yrs, and dont feel any better..a naturopathic dr did eav testing and

said that my thyroid and adrenals were working at 15 percent compacity and

that is why i am always forgetful, fatigued and stressed/depressed, but that

she cant get me anything strong like i need because she isnt a medical

dr...so i tried 2 medical drs ...one laughed at me and the other ran tests

and of course nothing turns up on paper...he doesnt believe me so i cant

even ask for any other kind of testing..guess i have to go thru the next 27

years miserable and feeling crazy and forgetfull and the rest of the

symptoms i have...thanks for listening

>From: Aprilcupcake@...

>Reply-hypothyroidism

>hypothyroidism

>Subject: Re: Am I going crazy or what????????

>Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:18:04 EST

>

>Hi, killroy. Sounds very similar to what I went through about six years

>ago.

>I don't know if you are female or male, but I had a condition known as

>Postpartum Thyrotoxicosis. My thyroid gland function would fluctuate

>between hyper and hypo. I was HYper when I was having major anxiety

>attacks. My doctor then did NOT run thyroid function tests. He assumed

>because I had given birth six months prior, that It was a classic case of

>depression....

>There was nothing classic about it! Anyway, I too was put on

>antidepressants

>of all names and doses, and it only made me worse!

>That's because when your thyroid gland is not functioning properly, you

>cannot process any of those drugs. They just stay in your body and

>poison you. My first dose of Paxil at 40mg put me in the emergency

>room. They assumed I had taken too many because my pupils were

>dilated and I was unresponsive. I was admitted to the psychiatric unit

>of the hospital and kept for seven days.

>Upon admission however, they did run a thyroid panel and a C A T scan.

>Neither of them were ever read. Just stuck in my file and that was that.

>After I was released, I continued to have problems and when I finally got

>down to 85lbs and was looking for a train to jump in front of...

>I decided to throw away all of the pills and start over!

>It took me a good eight months to rid myself of all of the drugs,

>But, after that I found someone to listen to me, and the mystery was

>solved rather quickly. I am considered HYpothyroid now and I take

>100mcg of synthroid everyday never to have those anxiety or depressive

>symtoms return!

>Many of the first signs of thyroid disfunction are emotional and cognitive.

>If you know this is not normal for you... seek help right away. Don't get

>sucked into the psychiatric trap.

>

>Happy to help you in any way!

>.

>

>

>

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I remember not too long ago, there was quite a bit of negative

information out there regarding Kava. I will look that up and post it.

Valerian is very affective, but can make you extremely drowsy.

It is better in " tea " form. The capsules tend to make you burp,

and the pills really stink to begin with...

All of my anxiety issues were resolved with thyroid meds however.

Are you currently on anything?

Chriss.

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My first round of tests did not show anything either. TSH was normal.

It was not detected until my doc ran a total T4 and

most importantly a reverse T3. Reverse T3 was nonexistent.

Had she gone by the standard TSH I would not be on meds now

and would probably be much worse. I have been helped dramatically

by thyroid medication. What sort of testing have you had?.

Chriss.

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:( you can pick up natural thyroid at health stores or order armour thyroid

overseas.. you could look for an endocrinologist and not an internal md

Re: Am I going crazy or what????????

> >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:18:04 EST

> >

> >Hi, killroy. Sounds very similar to what I went through about six years

> >ago.

> >I don't know if you are female or male, but I had a condition known as

> >Postpartum Thyrotoxicosis. My thyroid gland function would fluctuate

> >between hyper and hypo. I was HYper when I was having major anxiety

> >attacks. My doctor then did NOT run thyroid function tests. He assumed

> >because I had given birth six months prior, that It was a classic case of

> >depression....

> >There was nothing classic about it! Anyway, I too was put on

> >antidepressants

> >of all names and doses, and it only made me worse!

> >That's because when your thyroid gland is not functioning properly, you

> >cannot process any of those drugs. They just stay in your body and

> >poison you. My first dose of Paxil at 40mg put me in the emergency

> >room. They assumed I had taken too many because my pupils were

> >dilated and I was unresponsive. I was admitted to the psychiatric unit

> >of the hospital and kept for seven days.

> >Upon admission however, they did run a thyroid panel and a C A T scan.

> >Neither of them were ever read. Just stuck in my file and that was that.

> >After I was released, I continued to have problems and when I finally got

> >down to 85lbs and was looking for a train to jump in front of...

> >I decided to throw away all of the pills and start over!

> >It took me a good eight months to rid myself of all of the drugs,

> >But, after that I found someone to listen to me, and the mystery was

> >solved rather quickly. I am considered HYpothyroid now and I take

> >100mcg of synthroid everyday never to have those anxiety or depressive

> >symtoms return!

> >Many of the first signs of thyroid disfunction are emotional and

cognitive.

> >If you know this is not normal for you... seek help right away. Don't

get

> >sucked into the psychiatric trap.

> >

> >Happy to help you in any way!

> >.

> >

> >

> >

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how much thyroid does one take?? also i did go to an endocrinologist who

says the same....but, they do the minimum thyroid test and i hear that

unless you right where it shows really bad, then they feel you are ok////

but i live in las vegas and the medical profession here sucks

>From: " Kim " <kckim@...>

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><hypothyroidism >

>Subject: Re: Am I going crazy or what????????

>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:32:25 -0800

>

>:( you can pick up natural thyroid at health stores or order armour thyroid

>overseas.. you could look for an endocrinologist and not an internal md

>

>

> Re: Am I going crazy or what????????

> > >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:18:04 EST

> > >

> > >Hi, killroy. Sounds very similar to what I went through about six

>years

> > >ago.

> > >I don't know if you are female or male, but I had a condition known as

> > >Postpartum Thyrotoxicosis. My thyroid gland function would fluctuate

> > >between hyper and hypo. I was HYper when I was having major anxiety

> > >attacks. My doctor then did NOT run thyroid function tests. He

>assumed

> > >because I had given birth six months prior, that It was a classic case

>of

> > >depression....

> > >There was nothing classic about it! Anyway, I too was put on

> > >antidepressants

> > >of all names and doses, and it only made me worse!

> > >That's because when your thyroid gland is not functioning properly, you

> > >cannot process any of those drugs. They just stay in your body and

> > >poison you. My first dose of Paxil at 40mg put me in the emergency

> > >room. They assumed I had taken too many because my pupils were

> > >dilated and I was unresponsive. I was admitted to the psychiatric unit

> > >of the hospital and kept for seven days.

> > >Upon admission however, they did run a thyroid panel and a C A T scan.

> > >Neither of them were ever read. Just stuck in my file and that was

>that.

> > >After I was released, I continued to have problems and when I finally

>got

> > >down to 85lbs and was looking for a train to jump in front of...

> > >I decided to throw away all of the pills and start over!

> > >It took me a good eight months to rid myself of all of the drugs,

> > >But, after that I found someone to listen to me, and the mystery was

> > >solved rather quickly. I am considered HYpothyroid now and I take

> > >100mcg of synthroid everyday never to have those anxiety or depressive

> > >symtoms return!

> > >Many of the first signs of thyroid disfunction are emotional and

>cognitive.

> > >If you know this is not normal for you... seek help right away. Don't

>get

> > >sucked into the psychiatric trap.

> > >

> > >Happy to help you in any way!

> > >.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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it snot good here either.. mine asked me what the levels were suppsoe to be

and if i needed it.. so i was just lucky i guess i got a stupid dr... my tsh

is 5.05.. im just beginning this thing so i would take half a pill and work

your way up.. im gonna cut what he gave me in half and do y own thing.. not

like he rememebrs me anyway or checks on me

Re: Am I going crazy or what????????

> > > >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:18:04 EST

> > > >

> > > >Hi, killroy. Sounds very similar to what I went through about six

> >years

> > > >ago.

> > > >I don't know if you are female or male, but I had a condition known

as

> > > >Postpartum Thyrotoxicosis. My thyroid gland function would fluctuate

> > > >between hyper and hypo. I was HYper when I was having major

anxiety

> > > >attacks. My doctor then did NOT run thyroid function tests. He

> >assumed

> > > >because I had given birth six months prior, that It was a classic

case

> >of

> > > >depression....

> > > >There was nothing classic about it! Anyway, I too was put on

> > > >antidepressants

> > > >of all names and doses, and it only made me worse!

> > > >That's because when your thyroid gland is not functioning properly,

you

> > > >cannot process any of those drugs. They just stay in your body and

> > > >poison you. My first dose of Paxil at 40mg put me in the emergency

> > > >room. They assumed I had taken too many because my pupils were

> > > >dilated and I was unresponsive. I was admitted to the psychiatric

unit

> > > >of the hospital and kept for seven days.

> > > >Upon admission however, they did run a thyroid panel and a C A T

scan.

> > > >Neither of them were ever read. Just stuck in my file and that was

> >that.

> > > >After I was released, I continued to have problems and when I finally

> >got

> > > >down to 85lbs and was looking for a train to jump in front of...

> > > >I decided to throw away all of the pills and start over!

> > > >It took me a good eight months to rid myself of all of the drugs,

> > > >But, after that I found someone to listen to me, and the mystery was

> > > >solved rather quickly. I am considered HYpothyroid now and I take

> > > >100mcg of synthroid everyday never to have those anxiety or

depressive

> > > >symtoms return!

> > > >Many of the first signs of thyroid disfunction are emotional and

> >cognitive.

> > > >If you know this is not normal for you... seek help right away.

Don't

> >get

> > > >sucked into the psychiatric trap.

> > > >

> > > >Happy to help you in any way!

> > > >.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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I'm on Levoxyl and Cytomel. I'm pretty sure that my anxiety is situational.

I'm a full time mom; I tutor at night and am planning a wedding in May. I

also have problems within my extended family, but don't we all. :)

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Subject: Re: Am I going crazy or what????????

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:20:36 EST

I remember not too long ago, there was quite a bit of negative

information out there regarding Kava. I will look that up and post it.

Valerian is very affective, but can make you extremely drowsy.

It is better in " tea " form. The capsules tend to make you burp,

and the pills really stink to begin with...

All of my anxiety issues were resolved with thyroid meds however.

Are you currently on anything?

Chriss.

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I am glad you are doing well on $ynthroid but it may lose it's effectiveness

after a while. I don't think you were allergic to Armour. You might have

been on too low a dose or needed other hormones. With Armour you can't

treat to the TSH test.

Gracia

> I started my treatment for Hypothyroidism on Armour. It did not work for

me.

> By the third day on Synthroid, it was as if the lights came on!

> Synthroid is molecularly identical to our own T4 and your body cannot

> tell the difference. There are suttle differences in Armour however

because

> it comes from a different animal. Some folks have " allergic " reactions

> to it. I for one. It also tended not to be consistent. I know it's

> supposed

> to be tested etc... but, I would have an ok week and then a bad month.

> I have done much better on synthroid. It would not hurt to try both and

see

> how you do. There are others as well.

>

>

>

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WOW, quite a story. My Broda doc is writing a book now called What

to do when the doctor tells you it's all in your head.

Gracia

> Hi, killroy. Sounds very similar to what I went through about six years

ago.

> I don't know if you are female or male, but I had a condition known as

> Postpartum Thyrotoxicosis.

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Armour and cortef and DHEA and cod liver oil got rid of my anxiety, and it

was bad.

Gracia

> i have severely anxious moments :( im scared to take th synth and am

trying

> to figure out how to ask for armour instead before trying it.. im scared

of

> chemically made up drugs and would prefer natural...i find when i am

sicker

> my anxiety goes even higher..

>

>

> Am I going crazy or what????????

>

>

> > Started having anxiety attacks back in December. Would wake up at night

> with night terrors. I am

> > 44 years old. Always been healthy. Went to the Dr. who said I was

> depressed and wanted to

> > try me on Zoloft. That stuff made me feel even more anxious and feeble.

> Did not want to go

> > out, I was afraid of my own shadow it seemed. Off of Zoloft and tried

> Effexor. Still could not

> > tolerate that even. Next was Paxil. Same results. Dr. did blood test,

felt

> my neck. Did not seem

> > to think it is my thyroid. I sit here wondering and feeling anxiety like

> mad. Do not want to take any

> > more serretonin reuptake drugs as they make me feel like crap. Anybody

> been through all this?

> > Feel free to comment. Thanks, Killroy

> >

> >

> >

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>

> WOW, quite a story. My Broda doc is writing a book now called What

> to do when the doctor tells you it's all in your head.

> Gracia

>

>

> > Hi, killroy. Sounds very similar to what I went through about six years

> ago.

> > I don't know if you are female or male, but I had a condition known as

> > Postpartum Thyrotoxicosis.

Hello everyone and once again THANKS for all your feedback. I did call the Dr.'s

office

yesterday and told the phone answerer that I could not tolerate Paxil even

though that is

supposed to be the lowest SSRI out of the bunch to be able to stand. Those drugs

made me

feel weak and severly wimpy. And answering your question about being female or

male, I am a

44 year old male. I have always had a slight bit of social anxiety and after 3

or 4 beers or drinks I

could relax and " be myself " . It's not like I drink alot or at home but in group

social situations it just

always was a relaxer. I wonder if Xanax or valium would help? I don't know if I

have hyper

thyroid or not. What should I tell my all knowing physician. Maybe a second

opinion is what I

need. Keep those cards and letters comin'! I appreciate the info and kind words.

Killroy

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