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> ... Right now we're treating basically test results.

That is a dangerous strategy when ALL the symptoms contradict the very limited

test

(TSH only).

Chuck

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I would agree that your symptoms are not hypo - I don't know enough

about adrenal issues - only that I have had them - the biggest symptom

for me is not recovering from exercise and I believe this is a common

one but I also believe that allergies are an adrenal issue. I also had

blood tests come back in the low normal range and then I had a saliva

test which showed very low cortisol levels especially in the morning -

it really takes a knowledgeable doc to read these tests because if you

are low normal they will tell you you're fine and not look any further -

whereas low normal for you might be terribly low compared to your

healthy levels. Anyway I ended up treating myself with low dose HC - I'm

not recommending you do this But I do not feel that the blood tests are

an accurate measure. There is a metabolic scorecard which compares

adrenal symptoms to thyroid symptoms (both hyper and Hypo I think ) at

Dr Rinds website - this is very useful and you will be able to see how

severe your symptoms are you add them up at the end. I think it is

Drrind.com

cheers,

Kerry

Adrenal vs thyroid

I'm taking Synthroid because my routine bloodwork showed a TSH level

above the norm; and because 5 or 6 weeks later it showed even higher;

increasing from 5.x to 6.x. Based upon a high and increasing TSH my

family doctor started me on Synthroid. I haven't been to an endo...

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HI Kerry,

Can you explain a little further about what you mean by not recovering from

exercise? And how long does it take for you to recover from the exercise?

thanks

Bev

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote:

I would agree that your symptoms are not hypo - I don't know enough

about adrenal issues - only that I have had them - the biggest symptom

for me is not recovering from exercise and I believe this is a common

one but I also believe that allergies are an adrenal issue. I also had

blood tests come back in the low normal range and then I had a saliva

test which showed very low cortisol levels especially in the morning -

it really takes a knowledgeable doc to read these tests because if you

are low normal they will tell you you're fine and not look any further -

whereas low normal for you might be terribly low compared to your

healthy levels. Anyway I ended up treating myself with low dose HC - I'm

not recommending you do this But I do not feel that the blood tests are

an accurate measure. There is a metabolic scorecard which compares

adrenal symptoms to thyroid symptoms (both hyper and Hypo I think ) at

Dr Rinds website - this is very useful and you will be able to see how

severe your symptoms are you add them up at the end. I think it is

Drrind.com

cheers,

Kerry

Adrenal vs thyroid

I'm taking Synthroid because my routine bloodwork showed a TSH level

above the norm; and because 5 or 6 weeks later it showed even higher;

increasing from 5.x to 6.x. Based upon a high and increasing TSH my

family doctor started me on Synthroid. I haven't been to an endo...

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HI Bev,

when I exercise too strenuously - pretty much anything but gardening and

relaxed walking - I get very tired and often achy muscles for anything

from two days to several weeks - last week I went to our local outdoor

market with a friend - I ended up carrying a bag of vegetables on my

shoulder for a couple of hours instead of putting it in the car straight

away - the result is that I have had such bad pain in my shoulder I've

been taking pain killers for a week - this is the first time I've had to

do this - this is what I mean by no recovery. And I often don't see it

coming - who would thing that carrying a shoulder bag would be too much?

By the way I am not very overweight ...about 15lbs so its not hard for

me to get around in any other way and I keep very active in a slow and

steady kind of way.

Kerry

Adrenal vs thyroid

I'm taking Synthroid because my routine bloodwork showed a TSH level

above the norm; and because 5 or 6 weeks later it showed even higher;

increasing from 5.x to 6.x. Based upon a high and increasing TSH my

family doctor started me on Synthroid. I haven't been to an endo...

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Thanks Kerry for explaining that to me. I have that happen to me

all of the time.. I have to be very carefull with everything I do..

Bev

> I would agree that your symptoms are not hypo - I don't know enough

> about adrenal issues - only that I have had them - the biggest

symptom

> for me is not recovering from exercise and I believe this is a

common

> one but I also believe that allergies are an adrenal issue. I also

had

> blood tests come back in the low normal range and then I had a

saliva

> test which showed very low cortisol levels especially in the

morning -

> it really takes a knowledgeable doc to read these tests because if

you

> are low normal they will tell you you're fine and not look any

further -

> whereas low normal for you might be terribly low compared to your

> healthy levels. Anyway I ended up treating myself with low dose

HC - I'm

> not recommending you do this But I do not feel that the blood

tests are

> an accurate measure. There is a metabolic scorecard which compares

> adrenal symptoms to thyroid symptoms (both hyper and Hypo I

think ) at

> Dr Rinds website - this is very useful and you will be able to see

how

> severe your symptoms are you add them up at the end. I think it is

> Drrind.com

> cheers,

> Kerry

> Adrenal vs thyroid

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>

> I'm taking Synthroid because my routine bloodwork showed a TSH

level

> above the norm; and because 5 or 6 weeks later it showed even

higher;

> increasing from 5.x to 6.x. Based upon a high and increasing TSH my

> family doctor started me on Synthroid. I haven't been to an endo...

>

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A competent doctor will treat you based on symptoms. I cannot imagine doing

testing every month or even at all. First you need to be treated

adequately with enough of the right thyroid med. Then you might need other

hormones. Read the Hormone Solution by Thierry Hertoghe MD

Gracia

> Gracia,

>

> My hormone levels fluctuate tremendously from one month to the next....how

does one know how much to take to cope with these fluctuations ? Blood tests

every month ??? I read somewhere that saliva tests are more accurate for

hormones...is this true ?

>

> Fiona

>

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  • 2 weeks later...

" Feeling fat, fuzzy, or frazzled? " by Shames,

MD along with other sites recomended in the archives

from the active members like and Chuck et al

will provide you an informed basis by which your

questions can be founded. The endocrine system is

understood by very few medical professionals.

Understanding that, should a cure or sustaining a

" normal life " be your goal, studying the endocrine

system better than the doctors do should be the

pursuit.

--- " L. on " <res075oh@...> wrote:

> Early on I checked out adrenal symptoms and came to

> the conclusion that

> all indications are that I do not have an adrenal

> problem. However,

> since my reactions to medical problems and to

> medication are so

> frequently atypical I'm not sure. I may have to go

> to an endo and

> insist upon a complete adrenal panel and pituitary

> panel [if such exists].

>

> I would be very cautious about taking an adrenal

> medication unless

> fairly sure that I in fact had an adrenal

> dysfunction. Since my

> symptoms don't seem to be a good indicator, how the

> heck could I find

> out [other than the tests]? I think an adrenal test

> was done last month

> and showed normal.

>

>

>

> >Message: 3

> > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:54:01 -0400

> > From: " Gracia " <circe@...>

> >Subject: Re: Adrenal vs thyroid

> >

> >

> >the only worthwhile tests are free T3 and free T4.

> your allergy and hyper

> >symptoms are adrenal, adrenals support thyroid

> function, but endos don't

> >treat adrenals. This is the difference between

> treating the symptoms and

> >treating the cause.

> >Gracia

> >

> >

> >

> >>AFAIK my T3 and T4 have been normal; but I don't

> believe they were

> >>tested until I suggested it the last time I went

> in. However, I don't

> >>seem to have the test results handy right now.

> But to the best of my

> >>memory the only thing that has shown up is a TSH

> reading of [first] 5.6;

> >>and [second] 6.6. In another month or so I'll

> have more bloodwork, and

> >>perhaps at that time I may need to consider an

> endo.

> >>

> >>As for the allergy symptoms I've suffered with

> them for decades; only

> >>during the past year or three have the medications

> been sufficient to

> >>MOL control them. My TSH test last month was down

> to about 5.3 [i

> >>think] so it's going in the right direction.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

>

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I'm reading the part on the adrenals now; there really seems to be a lot

of info here.

Thanks,

>

>

>

>Message: 8

> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:52:38 -0700 (PDT)

> From: Mike <mikeroyusa@...>

>Subject: Re: Adrenal vs thyroid

>

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>www.drlam.com

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