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In a message dated 10/19/01 11:11:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

kschomer@... writes:

> Hello to everyone!

>

> My name is Kim and I am new to the Toiletries list.

>

> I live in Houston and have 3 children. I am an addicted CP soapmaker who

> just got in some new oils...coconut and palm kernel. It should be a treat

> since I have never used Palm Kernel oil before!

>

> I have also HP, HM, and made a few other toiletries.

>

> I have several questions. Silk Fibers to put into lye for CP soap...this

> may be a very stupid question. Must I have silk fibers mail order in or

> can I get it in a fabric store?

>

> I am also interested in expanding my knowledge and making lotions, creams,

> perfume sticks and room sprays. I still have not started on the

> lotion/cream project yet. I need the bottles to put them in.

>

> I would love to know what y'all think would be a good preservative to put

> into a lotion?

>

> Germaben II, vitamin E or any others that I don't know about?

>

> For lotion or cream making I currently have on-hand: Beeswax, alcohol,

> stearic acid, all sorts of oil except for grapefruit seed extract, a bunch

> of herbs, EO's and FO's. Can I make something out of this?

>

> Also, I have noticed that the Toiletries group has a wonderful recipe

> section on that I have been viewing, learning and that is how I got

> to this lovely group. I must say, the recipes on is impressive and

> has given me great help when needed.

>

>

Hi Kim,

Sounds like you are well on your way! I have not used silk in soap, so I

can't really answer that question--sorry! But as far as cream and

lotion....you can start with the recipes in the toiletries section and with

the ingredients you have you can whip something up. It may end up being a

tad " greasier " than you like, though. For a preservative in soap...you do

not need a preservative for your cp soap, but you may want to use an

antioxidant to keep your oils from becoming rancid. Some people use

tocopherol (vitamin e) and some people use EDTA and BHT (food grade

antioxidants). Your lotion, cream, body mist, etc. does need to preserved

adequately to protect against microbial growth (bacteria and mold). The

Germaben would work as well as Germall Plus and others. I prefer Germall

Plus liquid, because it is broad-spectrum and is easy to use. You can

purchase it from Sherri at http://oshun.bc.ca/. She also has bottles and

jars at excellent prices. You can find some recipes for body mist and lotion

and cream at www.theherbarie.com. There are also some tips on making lotion

that you might find helpful. That's my website. The lotion and cream recipes

that are listed use Emulsifying Wax NF. Many people like the feel and and

convenience of the Emulsifying Wax NF. Anyway, hopefully this helps a bit

and have fun!

Angie

The Herbarie

at Stoney Hill Farm

www.theherbarie.com

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Welcome Kim.

I'm into M & P soaps myself. Maybe you can share with me some of your

tips:). I get into looking at several websites to get my inspirations.

Do you have any good recipes or tips for me?

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Hi Angie,

Thank you so much for both sites.. I love your site! Looks wonderful and I

have put it in my favorite folder of soap suppliers. I will have to talk

shea butter and other items with you! I bought 2lbs of " unrefined " pure

shea about 21/2 weeks ago and I have about 1lb left so I will definately

order prob. in the next 2 weeks.

After I p/u Babett, I went to get my hair cut. The hairdresser told me

where to get some PET 4 ounce frosted bottles. Bought a few but they were

not to my liking. I just bought them for my experimental lotions, etc.

Again, thanks for all the info - it's very helpful.

Kim S.

Re: Introduction to the list

> In a message dated 10/19/01 11:11:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> kschomer@... writes:

>

>

> > Hello to everyone!

> >

> > My name is Kim and I am new to the Toiletries list.

> >

> > I live in Houston and have 3 children. I am an addicted CP soapmaker

who

> > just got in some new oils...coconut and palm kernel. It should be a

treat

> > since I have never used Palm Kernel oil before!

> >

> > I have also HP, HM, and made a few other toiletries.

> >

> > I have several questions. Silk Fibers to put into lye for CP

soap...this

> > may be a very stupid question. Must I have silk fibers mail order in or

> > can I get it in a fabric store?

> >

> > I am also interested in expanding my knowledge and making lotions,

creams,

> > perfume sticks and room sprays. I still have not started on the

> > lotion/cream project yet. I need the bottles to put them in.

> >

> > I would love to know what y'all think would be a good preservative to

put

> > into a lotion?

> >

> > Germaben II, vitamin E or any others that I don't know about?

> >

> > For lotion or cream making I currently have on-hand: Beeswax, alcohol,

> > stearic acid, all sorts of oil except for grapefruit seed extract, a

bunch

> > of herbs, EO's and FO's. Can I make something out of this?

> >

> > Also, I have noticed that the Toiletries group has a wonderful recipe

> > section on that I have been viewing, learning and that is how I

got

> > to this lovely group. I must say, the recipes on is impressive

and

> > has given me great help when needed.

> >

> >

>

> Hi Kim,

> Sounds like you are well on your way! I have not used silk in soap, so I

> can't really answer that question--sorry! But as far as cream and

> lotion....you can start with the recipes in the toiletries section and

with

> the ingredients you have you can whip something up. It may end up being a

> tad " greasier " than you like, though. For a preservative in soap...you do

> not need a preservative for your cp soap, but you may want to use an

> antioxidant to keep your oils from becoming rancid. Some people use

> tocopherol (vitamin e) and some people use EDTA and BHT (food grade

> antioxidants). Your lotion, cream, body mist, etc. does need to preserved

> adequately to protect against microbial growth (bacteria and mold). The

> Germaben would work as well as Germall Plus and others. I prefer Germall

> Plus liquid, because it is broad-spectrum and is easy to use. You can

> purchase it from Sherri at http://oshun.bc.ca/. She also has bottles and

> jars at excellent prices. You can find some recipes for body mist and

lotion

> and cream at www.theherbarie.com. There are also some tips on making

lotion

> that you might find helpful. That's my website. The lotion and cream

recipes

> that are listed use Emulsifying Wax NF. Many people like the feel and and

> convenience of the Emulsifying Wax NF. Anyway, hopefully this helps a bit

> and have fun!

>

> Angie

>

> The Herbarie

> at Stoney Hill Farm

> www.theherbarie.com

>

>

>

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Yes, I do melt and pour! I have not been able to master soap making plus i

really dont have the time. I love the melt and pur glycerin and find the

soap much less drying plus its easier!

On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 08:36:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

> Is there not anyone out there that is into the m & p soapmaking?

>

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Hello all,

I joined a couple of days ago, and have been doing some reading and

dipping into older posts since then. I have been doing lots of

reading for the past three weeks-- but there's lots to get to

understand! I have not been diagnosed with Hypothyroidism, but I know

I have it. I have had symptoms since I was about 12 at least. For

many years I took pain medication for " arthritis " , until I was

diagnosed a dozen years ago with " fibromyalgia " . It has been getting

worse for those dozen years too. I'm now at the point of staying in

my house most of the time, as even to go grocery shopping in our

small town, I have to have a stern word with myself to deal with the

pain, and I lean heavily on the cart as I lurch along. The list of my

symptoms is too long to mention here, and I'm sure you've all heard,

or experienced, all of them before. I became allergic to naproxin a

few years ago (anaphylactic shock) so can only take tylenol or

ibuprofin-- not much help.

I have only had one thyroid check, a year or two ago, and I am 56

years old. It was a TSH, which showed me to be in the upper 1/3 of

the reference range. I would not have accepted that as a sign or not

sign for my dogs (I breed and show setters). I have been aware of,

and checking for, autoimmune thyroiditis in setters for the past 20

years or more. The testing is much better nowadays, they are all

tested regularly and ongoing, and as soon as I see the TgAA elevated

(thyroglogulin autoantibodies), with or without any involvement of

TSH, T3's and T4's, or Free T3's or 4's, those dogs start on

supplement immediately. So I am aware that TSH may or may not mean

anything. And now, I have come on this list to get myself up to speed

on the human problem.

More... I tried to get another appoinment with my own Dr., to

politely demand further testing. As there is a Dr. shortage here, it

was a several weeks wait to see him, and I have about come to the end

of my tether (I can't take this anymore....) so I agreed to see the

new young Dr., who was quite aggressively certain there is nothing

wrong with my thyroid, and would not do any further testing. So, I

will not be going back to him, and have got an appointment for August

with my old Dr., who I hope will allow me to be properly tested.

Meanwhile, I have access to pills that my dogs are on. Three weeks

ago I took a 3mcg levothyroxin T4 pill, divided it in 1/4's and took

1/4 pill each morning for two weeks. A few days ago, I upped my

dosage to a 1 mcg pill per morning. Sometimes I think I already feel

flashes of feeling a bit less pain. The fatigue and brainfog remain

the same. I do not know what the cause of my hypothyroidism is-- but

I am certain this is what I have. My sister has many of the same

symptoms I have (plantar fasceitis and carpal tunnel specifically,

plus the Dr's said 2o years ago that she had lupus, which has since

disappeared), and my sister's teenage daughter was diagnosed with

Grave's disease a year ago.

I live in Southwestern Ontario Canada. Is there anybody here who

lives in my area, and can perhaps steer me in the direction of a GOOD

endocrinologist?

Gail on

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