Re: Question about testing for food allergies

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It might be under Kinesiology in the files.

So tell me about your ALCAT test.

Jeanne

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Erek wrote:

> I have some questions about food allergies. As you may have

remembered> when I wrote my original post, I told you that I took an

ALCAT allergy> test that revealed a LOT of food allergies. You felt

that those tests are> not necessarily that valid or useful, so you

suggested that I do testing> on my own. So I have a few questions:

>

> 1) You had said to see the files on doing muscle testing. Is that

in the> article called " Pepto Diet for IBS & Food Allergies.htm " ? I

didn't see> anything specific about " muscle " testing and to be honest

I'm not quite> sure what this is. Is there another article I should

look at?

==>Erek, sorry for the difficulty in finding files. I do need to

rename some files and rearrange them so they are easier to find.

Muscle testing is under " Applied Kinesiology " in the Files.

>

> 2) If I follow the above article's recommendations ( " Pepto Diet for

IBS & > Food Allergies.htm " ) do I need to use the pepto bismol and do

I have to> eat only meat and veggies for 10 days? I'm already on my

way to the meat> and veggies part with just a little added brown

rice, quinoa, and wild> rice.

==>Erek, if your digestive system is messed up take the Pepto Bismol,

if not, you won't have to take it. Yes, do eat only meat and veggies

for 10 days. If you are on your way to doing that, maybe wait until

you have eliminated grains, because the testing will be more accurate.

> 3) Let's say I test chicken today. Then I don't see any symptoms

for 5> days, can I then test eggs on the sixth day?

==>Yes, that's how it would work. Do keep track of everything you

eat, along with symptoms.

>

> Thanks so much, and if I'm missing an article please direct me.

==> You are welcome Erek. I don't believe you are missing an

article. I haven't posted much information about allergies because

it's so difficult to figure out whether you are actually allergic or

whether it's healing mechanisms, die-off, or just sensitivities. If

you don't have life-threatening reactions it's not a " true " allergy,

and probably just a sensitivity caused by candida. As you cure the

candida these sensitivities will change dramatically, sometimes day

to day, so testing can be for naught.

Even if you find certain foods you are sensitive to, you don't need

to eliminate them, just rotate them every 5 days. Also some foods

work on candida as well, so reactions would be expected. Some people

have needlessly eliminated certain foods that are very beneficial for

their recovery.

You will understand all of this better if you read the following

articles in the Files:

- Die-Off Symptoms -this is most important to read!

- Natural Healing & Hering's Law of Cures

- Healing Reaction

You take care too Erek.

Bee

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Hi Jeanne,

> It might be under Kinesiology in the files.

I found it, thanks!

>

> So tell me about your ALCAT test.

Well it was basically a blood test that my doctor ordered that cost a LOT

of money, luckily insurance payed for most of it. It was like $3000 or

something. It came back telling me that I have a lot of food allergies,

which was a rude awakening for me. I had started the WAP diet and thought

I was doing fine until then. I was drinking a lot of raw milk and eating a

lot of pastured eggs, grass-fed beef, and pastured chicken and pork. But

according to that test I am now highly " sensitive " to beef and milk, and

somewhat sensitive to chicken, eggs, and casein. So the only protein foods

that it said I am allowed to eat are lamb, pork, and certain fish.

Basically, I don't know how accurate it really was, what it bought me, and

the price is definetly not worth it. I would definetly not suggest it

unless your doctor can first absolutely assure you that he can get the

correct diagnosis codes so that insurance will cover it. I made the

mistake last August of assuming the Doctor (or rather her nurse) knew what

she was doing when she ordered the IGG allergens test on me. I basically

lost almost $3000 on an almost worthless procedure!!! Anyways, enough

ranting and raving...Let me know if you have more questions about this

test or the IGG test.

Thanks for your help!

Take care,

Erek

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Hi Bee and others,

What you have said has cleared some things up, but I am still grasping at

straws trying to figure out how to do this muscle testing technique for

food allergy testing.

I looked at the article, Applied Kinesiology Manual Muscle Testing.htm.

This article doesn't explain how to do muscle testing. The title of the

article, when you open it up, is " Applied Kinesiology Manual Muscle

Testing: As Reliable As The Deep Tendon Reflex? " . So it is basically an

article that is trying to justify Applied Kinesiology as being valid. It

was interesting, but it didn't give me specifics on the process.

I also looked at the article, " Applied Kinesiology FAQs by Duffy.htm " .

This article gives hints as to how Muscle Testing might be performed, but

it does not give step by step directions.

This reading, and the reading on this interesting web site I found:

http://www.subtlenergy.com/page/your_life/articles/muscle_testing_part1.htm

have lead me to believe that in order to do Muscle Testing properly, I

will need to find a chiropractor or other medical practicioner who is

trained in Applied Kineseology.

Do you agree that this is correct? Have any of you actually performed this

on yourselves? With success?

If it is the case that I need to find a practitioner to do this for me,

then I think I would rather follow the pepto diet method for food allergy

testing as explained in the article: " Pepto Diet for IBS & Food

Allergies.htm " . Has anyone tried this method? Does it work for you?

Question about the pepto method: If I follow the pepto method, it states

that you should eat veggies and meat only, with a few condiments. Does

that exclude soaked nuts and brown rice, which are allowed on the Candida

diet? I just want to get this testing down right so I can start eating at

least eggs again.

One last comment on what you said in your last post, Bee. You had said:

> I haven't posted much information about allergies because

> it's so difficult to figure out whether you are actually allergic or

> whether it's healing mechanisms, die-off, or just sensitivities. If

> you don't have life-threatening reactions it's not a & quot;true & quot;

> allergy,

> and probably just a sensitivity caused by candida. As you cure the

> candida these sensitivities will change dramatically, sometimes day

> to day, so testing can be for naught.

So if I am understanding you correctly, maybe I don't need to go through

this whole rigamaroll to test for food sensitivities? Maybe I can just

introduce eggs some day, see if I have any weird symptoms and in 5 days

introduce another food? The only concern I have is something my

Chiropractor said was that if I continue eating foods to which I am

sensitive, then it will continue to cause the gut to be inflammed, and

thus the leaky gut will never heal. Do you think this will be true even of

such beneficial foods as eggs, chicken, or beef?

Thanks so much for the help, and sorry for the long post!

Take care,

Erek

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Erek

I would look for a book or website on food testing so you know how to correctly

rotate and log your symptoms. Some don't show up for a day or so. It isn't

easy and it is time consuming but it will be well worth it in the long run. Bee

might have some suggestions on that.

There are some common foods that cause reactions....such as eggs, wheat, dairy,

corn, beef, citrus.....but you might just be reacting to something wierd like

broccoli. Poor Bee had only 6-7 foods she could eat without reaction.

I seemed to react to everything at first. When I went off of corn, wheat,

sugars, etc. it really helped. I could tell if I had a reaction because my

stomach would bloat up immediately like I had gained 10 pounds. water

retention, headaches, bloating, indigestion, stomach pains are a few of the

signs I get.

What I realized much later that the biggest offenders for me were caffeine (in

various forms) and dairy. I was still eating those for a long time into my

candida diet. (stubborn I guess) and when I finally omitted those the fight

against this candida really kicked in. Big black circles under my eyes went as

well.

I am sure Bee will have some interesting information for you but I just wanted

to add my 2 cents.

Jeanne OTN

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Hey Jeanne OTN,

> Erek

> I would look for a book or website on food testing so you know how to

> correctly rotate and log your symptoms. Some don't show up for a day or

> so. It isn't easy and it is time consuming but it will be well worth it

> in the long run. Bee might have some suggestions on that.

Have you done food testing before? Did it work out? Can you recommend a

web site or book that I could follow?

>

> There are some common foods that cause reactions....such as eggs, wheat,

> dairy, corn, beef, citrus.....but you might just be reacting to

> something wierd like broccoli. Poor Bee had only 6-7 foods she could

> eat without reaction.

Ya, that must have been really hard for Bee.

Form me, the ALCAT test said a whole bunch of things, but Bee seems to

think that those tests are not always accurate. I never felt bad eating

any foods except for citrus, which gives me cancer soars in my mouth. By

the way, what am I supposed to do in place of the lemon drink Bee

recommends since I seem to have problems with citrus?

>

> I seemed to react to everything at first. When I went off of corn,

> wheat, sugars, etc. it really helped. I could tell if I had a reaction

> because my stomach would bloat up immediately like I had gained 10

> pounds. water retention, headaches, bloating, indigestion, stomach pains

> are a few of the signs I get.

I haven't seen much of that, but then I haven't tried to reintroduce any

foods yet

> I am sure Bee will have some interesting information for you but I just

> wanted to add my 2 cents.

Jeanne, your 2 cents are much appreciated Thanks!

Take care,

Erek