Re: red rash on waistline -- microscopy

[Guest guest]

Hi Candace, What does the microscopy entail? For example, is it anything

like the dry and wet blood analysis done with the dark field microscope

where they take a drop of your blood? Also, did you have specific symptoms

that lead you to look into this? Maybe the result of another illness or use

of antibiotics or ? And what kind of doctor or therapist recommends it?

~Robin

[Guest guest]

My doctor is a DO - he is an actual doctor (I forget what DO stands for) -

who specializes in this stuff because his wife got ill several years ago and

no one could figure out what her problem was.

I've had Candida all my life just not as bad as it is now, I've had yeast

infections for as long as I can remember - my doctor says that because my

biological mother had a yeast infection when I was born it got into my

system at birth (something like that - he said it in much better terms).

I had childhood eczema - which sucked, but now I have it again as an adult.

Apparently at some point I had mono - and now I have Epstein Barr Virus (or

what ever that is called)

I have leaky gut syndrome, etc. Due to the fact that I got strep a lot when

I was younger - or at least had the symptoms of it, I was on a lot of

antibiotics. Once I became and adult I had such allergies that I always

had/have a sinus infection of some sort going on. So I've been on a lot of

antibiotics for that. One year - we couldn't get rid of the sinus infection

for an entire year. They even had me on tetracycline for 30 days - nothing.

I got rid of it by giving up dairy for 6 weeks.

I ended up with a horrible rash nearly 12 years ago, and the doctors could

figure out what it was so they had me on prednisone - which only helped in

large doses.

Out of the 76 symptoms listed in the file on the web site for symptoms of

Candida, I am currently experiencing 53 of those symptoms. Before I got the

diagnosis the first time (by this doctor) I had seen several doctors who

basically thought it was all in my head and kept putting me on Prozac. He

was the first one who said - I know what is wrong with you, he then did the

tests and everything he stated - was proven.

The Microscopy is where they take a drop of your blood and put it under this

big microscope that is hooked up to a monitor so that you can see (at least

where I go it is). I don't know about the dry and wet part - they just put

it on there and look. There are several settings that they look at it - and

several things that they look for. I like that I can watch because the

first time I had it done, my mother-in-law performed the test and showed me

what things to look for - it is very cool. I have large colonies of yeast

in my blood stream right now.

Candace

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From: Robin Reese [mailto:robin.reese@...]

Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 3:16 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] red rash on waistline -- microscopy

Hi Candace, What does the microscopy entail? For example, is it anything

like the dry and wet blood analysis done with the dark field microscope

where they take a drop of your blood? Also, did you have specific symptoms

that lead you to look into this? Maybe the result of another illness or use

of antibiotics or ? And what kind of doctor or therapist recommends it?

~Robin

[Guest guest]

Hi Candace, I'm sorry you've had it all for such a long time! I had Chronic

Fatigue Syndrome for over a year back in the 80's. (Some called it EBV back

then.) I was paralyzed with fatigue. I've always felt that these various

things were related -- the yeast, bacteria and so on.

The microscopy you're speaking of is, I'm pretty sure, also called something

like Live Cell Blood Analysis and it's done with a special " Dark Field "

microscope hooked up to a TV monitor. It's amazing isn't it? My French

homeopathic doctor uses it.

I guess what I was most curious about is why your doctor wanted you to wait

and not supplement with any good bacteria in the first 3 months. I always

thought that one can't ever get too much good bacteria in one's system

especially if they're fighting to regain a proper balance of microbes in the

gut.

During the first 3 months that you are not supposed to eat any good

bacteria, (either in food or in probiotics,) is he giving you something to

take?

I hope you don't mind so many questions it's just that we all can benefit

from these experiences. It's always interesting to see another approach.

~Robin

>>>> " The Microscopy is where they take a drop of your blood and put it under

this

big microscope that is hooked up to a monitor so that you can see (at least

where I go it is). I don't know about the dry and wet part - they just put

it on there and look. There are several settings that they look at it - and

several things that they look for. I like that I can watch because the

first time I had it done, my mother-in-law performed the test and showed me

what things to look for - it is very cool. I have large colonies of yeast

in my blood stream right now. " Candace

[Guest guest]

Yeah - I fight chronic fatigue (having sleep apnea doesn't help this) as

well, plus I have type 2 diabetes - the list is long of the things that I'm

dealing with, but diet and exercise would cure, or at least control every

single one of them.

I didn't say he wasn't supplementing with any good bacteria - that would be

part of the actual supplements he will have me on. I'll be taking a formula

called Multi-Cleanse that has many herbs in it that you use to restore bowel

ecology and immune system functions. There is the Bifidobacterium (a form

of acidophilus), plus he has a list of herbs he likes you to use, such as

l-glutamine, Oregon grape, licorice root.

I went back to read the " avoid foods " section of the documentation they gave

me at the class and sauerkraut is definitely on there, as well as miso

(which I love).

The Microscopy is amazing - it just floors me what they can tell by looking

at a tiny drop of your blood.

Candace

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From: Robin Reese [mailto:robin.reese@...]

Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:12 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] red rash on waistline -- microscopy

Hi Candace, I'm sorry you've had it all for such a long time! I had Chronic

Fatigue Syndrome for over a year back in the 80's. (Some called it EBV back

then.) I was paralyzed with fatigue. I've always felt that these various

things were related -- the yeast, bacteria and so on.

The microscopy you're speaking of is, I'm pretty sure, also called something

like Live Cell Blood Analysis and it's done with a special " Dark Field "

microscope hooked up to a TV monitor. It's amazing isn't it? My French

homeopathic doctor uses it.

I guess what I was most curious about is why your doctor wanted you to wait

and not supplement with any good bacteria in the first 3 months. I always

thought that one can't ever get too much good bacteria in one's system

especially if they're fighting to regain a proper balance of microbes in the

gut.

During the first 3 months that you are not supposed to eat any good

bacteria, (either in food or in probiotics,) is he giving you something to

take?

I hope you don't mind so many questions it's just that we all can benefit

from these experiences. It's always interesting to see another approach.

~Robin

>>>> " The Microscopy is where they take a drop of your blood and put it under

this

big microscope that is hooked up to a monitor so that you can see (at least

where I go it is). I don't know about the dry and wet part - they just put

it on there and look. There are several settings that they look at it - and

several things that they look for. I like that I can watch because the

first time I had it done, my mother-in-law performed the test and showed me

what things to look for - it is very cool. I have large colonies of yeast

in my blood stream right now. " Candace

[Guest guest]

Hi Candace,

When you are better, ask your DO(dotor of osteopathy) if you may eat

lacto fermented sauerkraut? It is a far cry from the store type

vinegar laden stuff out of a jar.

If he is not familar with the benefits of such healthy foods, then at

that time, when you are feeling better, you can educate him. I

believe doctors should be open to learning from their patients.

He sounds like a terrific DO with a plan that will help you. These

doctors are not so easy to find, so congratulations to you for

finding him.

All my best,

Sheila

> Yeah - I fight chronic fatigue (having sleep apnea doesn't help

this) as

> well, plus I have type 2 diabetes - the list is long of the things

that I'm

> dealing with, but diet and exercise would cure, or at least control

every

> single one of them.

>

> I didn't say he wasn't supplementing with any good bacteria - that

would be

> part of the actual supplements he will have me on. I'll be taking

a formula

> called Multi-Cleanse that has many herbs in it that you use to

restore bowel

> ecology and immune system functions. There is the Bifidobacterium

(a form

> of acidophilus), plus he has a list of herbs he likes you to use,

such as

> l-glutamine, Oregon grape, licorice root.

>

> I went back to read the " avoid foods " section of the documentation

they gave

> me at the class and sauerkraut is definitely on there, as well as

miso

> (which I love).

>

> The Microscopy is amazing - it just floors me what they can tell by

looking

> at a tiny drop of your blood.

>

>

>

> Candace

>

> _____

>

> From: Robin Reese [mailto:robin.reese@c...]

> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:12 PM

>

> Subject: RE: [ ] red rash on waistline -- microscopy

>

> Hi Candace, I'm sorry you've had it all for such a long time! I had

Chronic

> Fatigue Syndrome for over a year back in the 80's. (Some called it

EBV back

> then.) I was paralyzed with fatigue. I've always felt that these

various

> things were related -- the yeast, bacteria and so on.

>

> The microscopy you're speaking of is, I'm pretty sure, also called

something

> like Live Cell Blood Analysis and it's done with a special " Dark

Field "

> microscope hooked up to a TV monitor. It's amazing isn't it? My

French

> homeopathic doctor uses it.

>

> I guess what I was most curious about is why your doctor wanted you

to wait

> and not supplement with any good bacteria in the first 3 months. I

always

> thought that one can't ever get too much good bacteria in one's

system

> especially if they're fighting to regain a proper balance of

microbes in the

> gut.

>

> During the first 3 months that you are not supposed to eat any good

> bacteria, (either in food or in probiotics,) is he giving you

something to

> take?

>

> I hope you don't mind so many questions it's just that we all can

benefit

> from these experiences. It's always interesting to see another

approach.

>

> ~Robin

>

>

> >>>> " The Microscopy is where they take a drop of your blood and put

it under

> this

> big microscope that is hooked up to a monitor so that you can see

(at least

> where I go it is). I don't know about the dry and wet part - they

just put

> it on there and look. There are several settings that they look at

it - and

> several things that they look for. I like that I can watch because

the

> first time I had it done, my mother-in-law performed the test and

showed me

> what things to look for - it is very cool. I have large colonies

of yeast

> in my blood stream right now. " Candace

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Candace. I hope you'll keep us informed as you go along. And please

let us know any other specifics you might find out...

~Robin

Ps. By the way, when you said " Bifidobacterium (a form of acidophilus) " I

think you meant that Bifido is like Acidophilus in that it's another form of

probiotics.

[Guest guest]

By lacto - do you mean fermented by yogurt? Where would I get it - and what

would I eat it with? The only time I ever eat sauerkraut is on a hotdog

with mustard and onions.

He is a great doc - my mother-in-law worked for him for a few years prior to

my FIL passing away and her moving to NJ. Here is his web site:

http://www.goninowellness.com <http://www.goninowellness.com/>

Candace

_____

From: h2ocolor1937 [mailto:h2ocolor@...]

Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:02 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: red rash on waistline -- microscopy

Hi Candace,

When you are better, ask your DO(dotor of osteopathy) if you may eat

lacto fermented sauerkraut? It is a far cry from the store type

vinegar laden stuff out of a jar.

If he is not familar with the benefits of such healthy foods, then at

that time, when you are feeling better, you can educate him. I

believe doctors should be open to learning from their patients.

He sounds like a terrific DO with a plan that will help you. These

doctors are not so easy to find, so congratulations to you for

finding him.

All my best,

Sheila

> Yeah - I fight chronic fatigue (having sleep apnea doesn't help

this) as

> well, plus I have type 2 diabetes - the list is long of the things

that I'm

> dealing with, but diet and exercise would cure, or at least control

every

> single one of them.

>

> I didn't say he wasn't supplementing with any good bacteria - that

would be

> part of the actual supplements he will have me on. I'll be taking

a formula

> called Multi-Cleanse that has many herbs in it that you use to

restore bowel

> ecology and immune system functions. There is the Bifidobacterium

(a form

> of acidophilus), plus he has a list of herbs he likes you to use,

such as

> l-glutamine, Oregon grape, licorice root.

>

> I went back to read the " avoid foods " section of the documentation

they gave

> me at the class and sauerkraut is definitely on there, as well as

miso

> (which I love).

>

> The Microscopy is amazing - it just floors me what they can tell by

looking

> at a tiny drop of your blood.

>

>

>

> Candace

>

> _____

>

> From: Robin Reese [mailto:robin.reese@c...]

> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:12 PM

>

> Subject: RE: [ ] red rash on waistline -- microscopy

>

> Hi Candace, I'm sorry you've had it all for such a long time! I had

Chronic

> Fatigue Syndrome for over a year back in the 80's. (Some called it

EBV back

> then.) I was paralyzed with fatigue. I've always felt that these

various

> things were related -- the yeast, bacteria and so on.

>

> The microscopy you're speaking of is, I'm pretty sure, also called

something

> like Live Cell Blood Analysis and it's done with a special " Dark

Field "

> microscope hooked up to a TV monitor. It's amazing isn't it? My

French

> homeopathic doctor uses it.

>

> I guess what I was most curious about is why your doctor wanted you

to wait

> and not supplement with any good bacteria in the first 3 months. I

always

> thought that one can't ever get too much good bacteria in one's

system

> especially if they're fighting to regain a proper balance of

microbes in the

> gut.

>

> During the first 3 months that you are not supposed to eat any good

> bacteria, (either in food or in probiotics,) is he giving you

something to

> take?

>

> I hope you don't mind so many questions it's just that we all can

benefit

> from these experiences. It's always interesting to see another

approach.

>

> ~Robin

>

>

> >>>> " The Microscopy is where they take a drop of your blood and put

it under

> this

> big microscope that is hooked up to a monitor so that you can see

(at least

> where I go it is). I don't know about the dry and wet part - they

just put

> it on there and look. There are several settings that they look at

it - and

> several things that they look for. I like that I can watch because

the

> first time I had it done, my mother-in-law performed the test and

showed me

> what things to look for - it is very cool. I have large colonies

of yeast

> in my blood stream right now. " Candace

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi Candace, I'm sorry you've had it all for such a long time! I

had Chronic

> Fatigue Syndrome for over a year back in the 80's. (Some called it

EBV back

> then.) I was paralyzed with fatigue. I've always felt that these

various

> things were related -- the yeast, bacteria and so on.

Candace, my heart goes out to you as well. I too believe that the

yeast and CFS, indeed all chronic illnesses are heavily related.

> The microscopy you're speaking of is, I'm pretty sure, also called

something

> like Live Cell Blood Analysis and it's done with a special " Dark

Field "

> microscope hooked up to a TV monitor. It's amazing isn't it? My

French

> homeopathic doctor uses it.

>

> I guess what I was most curious about is why your doctor wanted

you to wait

> and not supplement with any good bacteria in the first 3 months.

Some Dr's etc. out there believe in delaying the intro of pro-

biotics, because they can cause too much extra die off, as they have

to compete with large candida populations, thus creating more wars

on extra fronts. ie. additional to the die off that the onset of the

diet can bring.

I always

> thought that one can't ever get too much good bacteria in one's

system

> especially if they're fighting to regain a proper balance of

microbes in the

> gut.

>

> During the first 3 months that you are not supposed to eat any good

> bacteria, (either in food or in probiotics,) is he giving you

something to

> take?

>

> I hope you don't mind so many questions it's just that we all can

benefit

> from these experiences. It's always interesting to see another

approach.

>

> ~Robin

>

>

> >>>> " The Microscopy is where they take a drop of your blood and

put it under

> this

> big microscope that is hooked up to a monitor so that you can see

(at least

> where I go it is). I don't know about the dry and wet part - they

just put

> it on there and look. There are several settings that they look

at it - and

> several things that they look for. I like that I can watch

because the

> first time I had it done, my mother-in-law performed the test and

showed me

> what things to look for - it is very cool. I have large colonies

of yeast

> in my blood stream right now. " Candace

>

>

>

>