Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Why do you want to scrap Olive oil? It is good for you. It also contains some yeast fighting fatty acids (albeit in small quantities). Personally, my body does not function that well on coconut oil. I can take a tablespoon or two a day, but it does not satisfy hunger or provide me with a great deal of energy. I also am not convinced it is effective at fighting intestinal yeast inspite of what people say. I mean, it's digested so quickly! How much effect can it exert in the colon? Anyway, don't give up on olive oil! It tastes nice, it's good for you (good for insulin resistance, good for lipids etc.), and it's not too expensive. Even RAVF and paleo dieters include olive oil while they keep everything else natural. --- Yes, ideally I want to stop eating olive oil all > together, and switch to either only coconut oil or a > combo of coconut oil and lard or tallow. > > Unfortunately I have had a hard time getting the funds > together to get lard or tallow and can't find it > locally. ---I couldn't find any organic lard or tallow so I bought beef and pork fat from my butcher and rendered it down myself. I think I paid about $1.30 lb for the beef fat and a bit more for the pork. Pat B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Dirk, For those of us who are extremely overweight, it is recommended olive oil be kept to a minimum as it inhibits weight loss. Coconut oil, on the other hand, is a medium chain fat that promotes weight loss. Personally, I use about two tablespoons of olive oil per day (usually on a salad) and get the rest of my fat ratio from coconut oil, butter, naturally occurring fats in meats, etc. and my daily dose of fish oil. Ellen [ ] Olive oil vs. Coconut oil > Why do you want to scrap Olive oil? <<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Ellen, thanks for the tip on olive oil... do you happen to have any links or supporting evidence that olive oil inhibits weight loss? Thank you! > > Dirk, > For those of us who are extremely overweight, it is recommended olive oil be > kept to a minimum as it inhibits weight loss. Coconut oil, on the other > hand, is a medium chain fat that promotes weight loss. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Hi ! No links really other than Bee having mentioned it in messages a few times. But I did notice for myself that when I was consuming more of it (other than the 2 TBS a day) my weight loss slowed dramatically. Now that I am limiting it, the weight is dropping quickly again. Ellen [ ] Re: Olive oil vs. Coconut oil > Ellen, thanks for the tip on olive oil... do you happen to have any > links or supporting evidence that olive oil inhibits weight loss? > > Thank you! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Dirk, did you read about my unplanned experiment going 2 weeks without coconut oil? I usually use about 60% coconut oil, 40% olive for my fat. When I ran out of coconut oil I switched to 100% olive oil for a few weeks. I immediately stopped losing weight and had a relapse of yeast symptoms for the first time in more than eight months. I'm not convinced that my body does well on olive oil at all, especially since that info comes from main stream media which makes me skeptical to begin with. While Paleo folks may keep olive oil in, probably because like many of us we've heard so much about how good it is from the media that we have been thoroughly brainwashed, I don't see our Paleo ancestors squeezing olives to get oil. I'm convinced that animal fat and coconut oil are the best choices for me. I'll have to wait until I get the animal fat to tell for sure though. Luv, Debby San , CA --- Dirk Coetsee <dirk.coetsee@...> wrote: > Why do you want to scrap Olive oil? It is good for > you. It also contains > some yeast fighting fatty acids (albeit in small > quantities). Personally, my > body does not function that well on coconut oil. I > can take a tablespoon or > two a day, but it does not satisfy hunger or provide > me with a great deal of > energy. I also am not convinced it is effective at > fighting intestinal yeast > inspite of what people say. I mean, it's digested so > quickly! How much > effect can it exert in the colon? > > Anyway, don't give up on olive oil! It tastes nice, > it's good for you (good > for insulin resistance, good for lipids etc.), and > it's not too expensive. > Even RAVF and paleo dieters include olive oil while > they keep everything > else natural. Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04: http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Today is the most important day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Does personal experience count? Shirley >From: " " <peterconnors@...> >Ellen, thanks for the tip on olive oil... do you happen to have any >links or supporting evidence that olive oil inhibits weight loss? > >Thank you! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Hi Ellen Really? I have never heard of Olive oil inhibiting fat loss. In fact, I have heard the contrary. When you are in ketosis, is it not high doses of saturated fat that inhibit fat loss as the fat will primarily be used as fuel rather than your fat stores? This was what Atkins seemed to indicate. Personally, I find I can gain weight quite eating zero carbs and high saturated fat in spite of what many low carbers say. But hey, whatever works for you. I don't actually eat olive oil, I just know it's healthy. 90% of my fats are from meat, eggs and butter. <------- Dirk, For those of us who are extremely overweight, it is recommended olive oil be kept to a minimum as it inhibits weight loss. Coconut oil, on the other hand, is a medium chain fat that promotes weight loss. Personally, I use about two tablespoons of olive oil per day (usually on a salad) and get the rest of my fat ratio from coconut oil, butter, naturally occurring fats in meats, etc. and my daily dose of fish oil. Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Me too for personal experience. For the last 8+ months I ate 40% olive oil and 60% coconut oil and then I ran out of coconut oil so I switched to olive oil exclusively for two weeks. Not only did my weight loss stop cold (again not changing anything else) but I started reexperiencing my candida symptoms. Luv, Debby San , Ca --- Dirk Coetsee <dirk.coetsee@...> wrote: > Hi Ellen > > Really? I have never heard of Olive oil inhibiting > fat loss. In fact, I have > heard the contrary. When you are in ketosis, is it > not high doses of > saturated fat that inhibit fat loss as the fat will > primarily be used as > fuel rather than your fat stores? This was what > Atkins seemed to indicate. > Personally, I find I can gain weight quite eating > zero carbs and high > saturated fat in spite of what many low carbers say. Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04: http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Today is the most important day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 > > Why do you want to scrap Olive oil? It is good for you. It also contains some yeast fighting fatty acids (albeit in small quantities). Personally, my body does not function that well on coconut oil. I can take a tablespoon or two a day, but it does not satisfy hunger or provide me with a great deal of energy. I also am not convinced it is effective at fighting intestinal yeast inspite of what people say. I mean, it's digested so quickly! How much effect can it exert in the colon? ==>Hi Dirk. Coconut oil does not need to be in direct contact with the intestines to affect it. > Anyway, don't give up on olive oil! It tastes nice, it's good for you (good for insulin resistance, good for lipids etc.), and it's not too expensive. Even RAVF and paleo dieters include olive oil while they keep everything else natural. ==>Sally Fallon writes this in her cookbook " Nourishing Traditions, " in the section on Fats, under Short-chain fatty acids, pg. 9: " They do not need to be acted on by the bile salts but are directly absorbed for quick energy. For this reason, they are less likely to cause weight gain than olive oil or commercial vegetables oils. " ==>Also on pg. 19 under Olive Oil: " Oilive oil has withstood the test of time; it is the safest vegetable oil you can use, but don't overdo. The longer chain fatty acids found in olive oil are more like to contribute to the buildup of body fat than the short- and medium-chain fatty acids found in butter and coconut oil. " Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 wrote: > > Ellen, thanks for the tip on olive oil... do you happen to have any > links or supporting evidence that olive oil inhibits weight loss? ==>Dear . Sally Fallon writes this in her cookbook " Nourishing Traditions, " in the section on Fats, under Short-chain fatty acids, pg. 9: " They do not need to be acted on by the bile salts but are directly absorbed for quick energy. For this reason, they are less likely to cause weight gain than olive oil or commercial vegetables oils. " ==>Also on pg. 19 under Olive Oil: " Oilive oil has withstood the test of time; it is the safest vegetable oil you can use, but don't overdo. The longer chain fatty acids found in olive oil are more like to contribute to the buildup of body fat than the short- and medium-chain fatty acids found in butter and coconut oil. " Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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