Re: I am still confused

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> It sounds like a lot of people have been helped by diet alone, vitamins,

> cultured vegetables etc.

> I feel so much better eating a candida diet ..............but today I felt

> like crap at work....spacey, dizzy, tired, panicky. I think I unknowingly ate

> some sugar yesterday in some salad dressing and the vinegar too didn't help.

> (I have been really good about olive oil and lemon and shouldn't of eaten

> dressing from a restaurant) So either that kicked it off or maybe it was die

> off.

> Not to kick off issues again in the group but can someone please just give me

> their opinion and like a time line suggestion. Yes I know everyone is

> different but I want to know what works.

> for example

> Eat a candida diet for 6 months and than add blah and than blah and than blah

> 2 months later. I would like to know what you do as in

> A.B.C.D.....................that works for you.

> I have Olive Leaf extract, Caprylic acid, Priobiotics sitting in a closet and

> I don't have the slightest idea when to use them. I basically do the diet,

> coconut oil, vitamins.......thats it. I feel so much better and am off a bunch

> of crap I was taking for asthma and allergies and no more sinus problems.

> Since I never met a cheese I didn't like that has been tough but worth

> it...........still eat about 2 ounces a week though.

> So please can someone just give me their opinion on what they would do next.

> Yes I have read Bee's articles so what other advice does anyone have?

> Jeanne

>

Jeanne, my own personal experience was doing the yeast connection diet for a

year. I was very strict because when I found out I had yeast, I was so sick

and exhausted and my hair was falling out etc. I was 19 and living with my

best friend. I couldn¹t eat all the goodies she was eating and no parties

for me, the cigarette smoke alone just sent me over the edge. It was very

hard! After about a year I added back in fruit and yeast bread and cheese a

little bit at a time and I did well. I haven¹t had systemic problems that

severe since then. I did have some a few years ago, but I just took olive

leaf extract for 2 months and it took care of it. That stuff tastes like,

well bad, really bad, but it sure did the trick! I can¹t remember if when I

was on the diet if I actually did supplements or not. I know I initially

went out and bought them, but I don¹t recall re-buying them... I am now at

a point where I can eat dessert, drink a soda etc. I can feel when I have

had too much and I just avoid sugar for awhile. Sugar is really my only

trigger. I avoided yeast bread, cheese, vinegar etc that whole year, but I

don¹t feel that I am personally sensitive to them from a candida

perspective. I haven¹t ever been regular about taking a probiotic. Out of

sight, out of mind for me. I did eat yogurt very regularly for awhile, but

I lost may taste for it. In my last pregnancy I was very ill and lost my

taste for several things.

--

, mom to

Harriet 12.15.99

Crispin 01.25.02

heatherette@...

[Guest guest]

Jeanne:

For me I consider it all a matter of degrees. Maybe

its bacause I have so many other health concerns that

the discomforts that candidas causes me from time to

time do not give it a super high priority so when it's

back I tend to live with the little pains and work on

getting rid of it. Yes, it comes and goes for me. And

some times I can indeed trace it to " cheating " . For

instance, a gay organization I belong to had a big

reunion a few weeks back and I had a glass of WINE

and TWO pieces of pizzza (GASPP!!) I knew I would

probably pay for it later. I did. About three days

later I had some minor oral thrush appear and my jock

itch really came back. But after only about 10 days

of strict dieting and itch treatment it was almost

totally gone. Thats why I said in a very early post

that I seem to be able to control mine at will.

I truly think the effects of dieting and supplements

are different for everyone. The human body is an

amazing but extrememly complicated mechanism and then

when you factor in the effects of genetics,

environment, etc. things get REALLY complicated. You

need to realize what MAY work for one doesn't have

exactly the same, desired effect for you or that same

treatment may take longer to effect you.

So what its worth here is what I do when I get a flare

up.

1. I first look even harder at ingredient labels and

prioritize. first trying to eliminte as much sugar as

possible. I also try to stay away from ALL dairy.

(but I have started using organic butter)

2. I almost never eat yeast breads regardless of how I

feel but I remain even more aware of that during a

flare up.

3. I double up on my garlic supplements. I eat at

least one meal a day with a raw garlic clove included.

(peeled and minced in olive oil & lemon juice)

4. I eat fresh, washed raw or quick cooked vegetables.

I don't have time to be culturing my food. I may have

one piece of fruit in the morning but if my flare-up

is sever i will even cut that out for awhile.

5. I eat the equivelant of at least two tubs of

yogurt. Sorry Bee (half organic plain mixed with a

more commericial variety)

6. Eat more eggs- 6-8 a week.

7. Supplements: Morning- I start out with GSE and a

big glass of water followed by a Mega multi, B-12 tab,

Folic acid, Garlic supplement Vitamin C (500mg),

Magnesium (250 mg) I will do another GSE treatment

just before lunch. With my evening meals I then again

do another Mega multi, B-Complex, Garlic supplement,

Iron supplement, Magnesium. Before I go to bed I have

another glass of GSE. Take more protein supplement.

8. Take a probiotic between meals (and between garlic

intake).

9. If I'm feeling REALLY fatigued I may or may not pop

one Ibupropen before I take a short 40 minute nap. I

then get up walk the dog, feed the dog and then get my

butt to the gym!

10. Put a big priority on getting to " studio " . I am a

marketing / research consultant and graphic designer

by trade BUT I am also a fine artist. I belong to

Grand Valley Artists and we have life drawing studio

sessions twice a week. While I'm drawing I hardly EVER

feel any pain from candida and that " high " can last

through the evening. " Arting " is a great therapy for

me.

I think its the last two items that really does the

most good some times. These little regimens really

helps me de-stress. Stress is a huge culprit when it

comes to candida!! I think Bee has recently been

reminded of that.

The fatigue and yucky feeling you ARE experiencing may

actually be die-off. I am fortunate because I'm

office is in my home so if I really need to do the nap

thing I can. Objectively, you may just really want to

look at how you can destress your life some.

Hang in there kid!

--- jeannekrieg@... wrote:

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It sounds like a lot of people have been helped by

diet alone, vitamins, cultured vegetables etc.

I feel so much better eating a candida diet

...............but today I felt like crap at

work....spacey, dizzy, tired, panicky. I think I

unknowingly ate some sugar yesterday in some salad

dressing and the vinegar too didn't help. (I have been

really good about olive oil and lemon and shouldn't of

eaten dressing from a restaurant) So either that

kicked it off or maybe it was die off.

Not to kick off issues again in the group but can

someone please just give me their opinion and like a

time line suggestion. Yes I know everyone is

different but I want to know what works.

for example

Eat a candida diet for 6 months and than add blah and

than blah and than blah 2 months later. I would like

to know what you do as in

A.B.C.D.....................that works for you.

I have Olive Leaf extract, Caprylic acid, Priobiotics

sitting in a closet and I don't have the slightest

idea when to use them. I basically do the diet,

coconut oil, vitamins.......thats it. I feel so much

better and am off a bunch of crap I was taking for

asthma and allergies and no more sinus problems.

Since I never met a cheese I didn't like that has been

tough but worth it...........still eat about 2 ounces

a week though.

So please can someone just give me their opinion on

what they would do next. Yes I have read Bee's

articles so what other advice does anyone have?

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeanne,

You've done an excellent job staying on the diet for 6 months and

taking supplements. That is the step which builds the immune

system. That should set you up real good for the other steps in the

program.

Even though my article does not state how long to stay on the diet,

for some people it is one month, for others it is three months and so

on. It depends upon how severe and widespread the symptoms are, and

how much the person adheres to the diet as well.

The next step for you is to take antifungals and probiotics.

The best,

Bee

> It sounds like a lot of people have been helped by diet alone,

vitamins, cultured vegetables etc.

> I feel so much better eating a candida diet ..............but today

I felt like crap at work....spacey, dizzy, tired, panicky. I think I

unknowingly ate some sugar yesterday in some salad dressing and the

vinegar too didn't help. (I have been really good about olive oil and

lemon and shouldn't of eaten dressing from a restaurant) So either

that kicked it off or maybe it was die off.

> Not to kick off issues again in the group but can someone please

just give me their opinion and like a time line suggestion. Yes I

know everyone is different but I want to know what works.

> for example

> Eat a candida diet for 6 months and than add blah and than blah and

than blah 2 months later. I would like to know what you do as in

A.B.C.D.....................that works for you.

> I have Olive Leaf extract, Caprylic acid, Priobiotics sitting in a

closet and I don't have the slightest idea when to use them. I

basically do the diet, coconut oil, vitamins.......thats it. I feel

so much better and am off a bunch of crap I was taking for asthma and

allergies and no more sinus problems. Since I never met a cheese I

didn't like that has been tough but worth it...........still eat

about 2 ounces a week though.

> So please can someone just give me their opinion on what they would

do next. Yes I have read Bee's articles so what other advice does

anyone have?

> Jeanne

>

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