Re: calcium/magnesium ratio

February 24, 2005

Jeanne

Synthetic calcium supplaments are not great, especially for women.

They don't get absorbed the same way diatery calcium gets absorbed

and can create deposits in the body. For example, breast tumors are

essentailly calcium deposits (thats how they look for them anyway).

There are many foods other than dairy that contain calcium, almonds,

bone broths are especially good when cooked as per Nourishing

Traditions, sesame seeds and a few others.

There are many nationalities that don't consume dairy, yet they are

not lacking in calcium.

Increasing your Vit c would probably help, and if you are a coffee

and pop drinker, stopping that will stop calcium leaching out of the

bones.

Irene

>

> Equal mg of calciuim to magnesium?

>

> I stopped eating dairy and need to add some calcium into my diet.

> Jeanne

>

February 25, 2005

Dear Jeanne,

It is best to obtain calcium from foods sources if possible. I have

taken cal/mag supplements for years with no side effects. But if I

don't eat enough protein and fats, along with taking cal/mag, it does

cause symptoms. I have an old back injury and there's a spot between

my shoulder blades that tells me.

I take cal/mag supplements after meals along with vitamin C, which

inceases absorption. I buy magnesium separately so I can get an

equal amount. Most days I only need 350 mgs. Some days I need 350

mgs. twice a day, but that's rare.

The best to you,

Bee

February 25, 2005

Dear Judy,

> Had to put in my two cents here: Calcium should be taken in a

ratio of two to one to magnesium. AND, it MUST be taken separately!

Why? Because they compete for receptor sites in the intestines and

you lose some of the benefit of BOTH when you take them together. In

Europe, they have known this for years and usually take magnesium in

the morning and Calcium at night, since it can help one to sleep.

==>Do you have some references for this? I can't see how it can be

true. When I had a bone density test in 1994 I had bone loss, but 2

years later another test showed I had almost totally reversed it.

The only thing I changed was to take cal/mag together consistently.

==>While calcium may be required in higher amounts than magnesium

most people are lacking or very low in magnesium compared to calcium

obtained in their diets; therefore supplementation is required in a

1:1 ratio.

>>Having said all that, I am curious if anyone has had my particular

problem with mineral absorption, especially with calcium, magnesium

and potassium. Because I have the usual leaky gut syndrome, the

minerals are now absorbed MUCH more easily ( and probably in larger

chunks than would normally be the case ) and I am VERY sensitive to

them, particularly potassium. This has become quite a problem and I

am even beginning to see the effects on my teeth now. I would HATE

to see what is happening to my bones!

==>What gives you reason to believe you are extremely sensitive to

minerals you get in your diet? Minerals are larger chunks? How can

they be any larger molecules than they were originally in foods you

eat? Your body wouldn't break them down into larger chunks either.

Vitamin D (sun or cod liver oil) and trace minerals (sea salt) are

imperative for mineral absorption.

Bee

February 25, 2005

Hi Bee,

Without looking up references, I will say that it is elementary in EVERY tome

on nutrition in the world - to take twice as much calcium as magnesium. But,

you have a point there that if you are deficient in magnesium, better to take

more of it for awhile.

The word " chunk " was just me simplifying a concept, I see I only obscured it!

LOL

You are right that molecules are molecules, but I know that with leaky gut,

actual PARTICLES of foods and nutrients, etc. can slip through and even enter

the blood stream, which is primarily what causes us to have so many allergies

and sensitivities.

The way I KNOW what my problem is because of how I react now when I take any

form of minerals. It isn't good. As to WHY this is the case, leaky gut or

whatever, I cannot say, which is precisely why I asked the group if anyone had

any input for my problem. I took potassium daily for over 20 years with no

problem whatsoever, initially because I tended to be low on potassium over and

over. Then, suddenly, I had the opposite problem. This seemed to coincide with

the time that I first cut back radically on my carbohydrates. It really turned

my system upside down! Now, I am following your program to the best of my

ability and am having increased difficulties in many ways. I am about three

weeks into the program and am having a heck of a time, but am hanging in there.

I would say that the only thing I may be doing wrong is that I still have a

small handful of nuts every afternoon. As someone else stated, I also am prone

to attacks of low blood sugar and cannot last through the day without something

that will carry me through. However, do you think that I am sabotaging my whole

effort that way? At the moment, I cannot recall what you have said about

nuts......

It sometimes seems as if the candida are still feeding on SOMETHING. Another

person in this group once referred to a " feeding frenzy " and I still feel that

at times, even when I think I have stuck to the diet to the letter. As she

said, after a lot of years, one can tell when the yeast are active and happy!

Thanks ahead of time for your help, hugs, Judy

Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote: