Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 i'm planning daily physical activity as well! every morning either a fast paced walk for about 45 minutes, or approx 20-30 minutes of yoga or pilates every day. i'll be like " the little engine that could " , one of these days i'll make it up that hill!! oh yes, " free days " are like gold. i had my morning client cancel for today, and i'm actually glad, as in the same five minutes someone booked for wednesday afternoon. so i can move slowly and deliberately this morning. and i like all those spices you mentioned. are you doing spices and no herbs? if so, any reason? i woke up early today, feeling sluggish and tired and worried that i'd have another difficult day. i did a pilates 20 minute video workout and i feel energized, thank goodness! i've just become interested in pilates as i had a slipped disk in january and it was the most painful thing i've ever felt! i was out of work for weeks, and lived on our new living room floor for the first 10 days (we were in the process of moving when my back went out!) my fiancee had to do everything for me, i literally couldn't even crawl for the first 4 days. it was a stressful time for both of us. but we came through it so well, with an even deeper love. i've been healing it naturally, no chiro, no accupunture, nothing except being very good to it and letting it do its thing. but i've gotten softer all over from not being as physically active as i used to be. i made a promise to myself and to my back when i was immobile, that when i could walk again, i'd get stronger than before, and protect my back from ever having this happen again! and pilates is good, i hear, for getting strong. its amazing how stress can weaken the body. physically, emotionally, immune system etc. i will keep a diary of my days: foods eaten, activity levels, stress levels, and how i'm feeling. i think its a really good plan. > > > > Hi , When I first found out that I had Candida I changed > my > > > diet and > > > > became so dreadfully tired and weak. That was a couple months > > ago. > > > I went > > > > through the " die-off " and seemed to be doing a little bit > better > > in > > > terms of > > > > energy but lately had a couple slip-ups (1. rice, 2. too much > > > coconut oil.) > > > > I am trying to get back on track. > > > > > > > > Those slip-ups made me realize that, although I thought I was > > > committed to > > > > sticking to this stupid diet, I still wasn't taking my problem > > > seriously > > > > enough. This morning was a kind of epiphany, (or maybe a > > > catharsis?,) as I > > > > cried for the first time in at least two years -- I just felt > so > > > overwhelmed > > > > with backed-up work and generally, so pathetic and miserable. > > > > > > > > But happily, I think it signaled a big change at how I look at > > this > > > thing. > > > > Although incredibly boring and awful, I'm going to eat only > very > > > simple > > > > " approved " foods, rest and continue these walks. I'm going to > > make > > > a " menu " > > > > for each day as I go along -- no more deciding when hungry > > of " what > > > am I > > > > going to have for lunch? " -- dilemmas. I've always looked at > food > > > creatively > > > > as I'm sure you do but now my creativity is going to be > expressed > > > in how > > > > simple (no more than 3 or 4 foods at any meal,) and " perfect " I > > can > > > make > > > > each of 3 or 4 small meals each day. No eating between, and no > > > worrying that > > > > I'm still hungry when I'm finished -- it's only gotten me into > > > trouble. I'm > > > > not going to worry about how skinny I get. (I frankly don't > think > > > I'll get > > > > much skinnier than this...) Also, no more " wonder " foods or > > cures -- > > > a > > > > balanced highly nutritional diet. Lots of green juices and a > > > variety of > > > > proteins, fats and oils. My exception is, each morning one half > > > apple eaten > > > > with almonds or another food to " ground " the sweetness. I will > > > alternate the > > > > " one small piece of fruit " with another that I can tolerate. > > > > > > > > I realized this morning that I hate this Candida problem so > much > > I > > > am > > > > willing to give up almost anything to be rid of it -- (It > > > particularly > > > > scares me when I hear some people with no real relief years > > later. > > > No way... > > > > > > > > I wish we were neighbors, (in fact this whole group!) -- that > way > > > we could > > > > share meals! > > > > > > > > It's nice to have the support of this group. > > > > ~Robin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > From: chefsuz2 [mailto:thenaturalkitchen@y...] > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 3:48 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: [ ] ? re: soaking nuts, and i'm tired > > today!! > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > > i've been sitting here catching up on some of the latest > chat... > > > and > > > > am getting really excited to make some of my own cabbage > > rejuvelac! > > > > the idea of it sounds so delicious to me right now, can't wait > to > > > sip > > > > some! > > > > > > > > re: soaking nuts - i'm soaking almonds and walnuts right now > with > > > sea > > > > salt. does it matter if the walnuts are in pieces, as the > soaking > > > is > > > > supposed to start the sprouting process? should we only use > whole > > > > nuts? > > > > > > > > my story: > > > > > > > > i went for a walk this morning (which has been much more > > difficult > > > > for me these last few weeks than usual), going the same route > i'm > > > > used to, i've tried three times in the last week to get up the > > same > > > > hill and haven't been able to make it to the top! (i used to > have > > > no > > > > problems going straight to the top, and even higher up another > > hill > > > > after that). its so disappointing! > > > > > > > > i started this candida cleanse after getting so itchy " you know > > > > where " (sorry if that's too much info for anyone) that i was > > > > scratching myself till i broke the skin. i would do it without > > > > realizing how uncomfortable i really was, until i finally got > it > > > one > > > > day - " this isn't normal!! " so i did the candida self tests and > > > came > > > > out a very strong " positive " , not only for itching, but a bunch > > of > > > > other little complaints as well. now i've been on the diet for > > > three > > > > weeks, and some days i feel great, others are just as bad as > > > before. > > > > > > > > yesterday was a busy day for me, we ran around town all day (on > > > foot, > > > > then in the car to farther places). i felt great all day > > yesterday, > > > > energized and happy... now today, i'm beat, and feeling > > > downhearted. > > > > but i'm keeping my sprits up best i can, reminding myself i > won't > > > > feel this way forever. > > > > > > > > i think i have to start being REALLY VIGILANT about what i put > in > > > my > > > > mouth. (ie: we ate dinner in a restaurant last night, i ordered > a > > > > cobb salad which had some blue cheese in it, and the dressing > > > > definitely had some vinegar in it, the bacon probably was > loaded > > > with > > > > sulphites, AND i snacked on some turkey jerky earlier in the > day > > > > which turns out to have sugar and vinegar in the marinade). > > > > > > > > i had a completely candida-friendly breakfast this morning > > (though > > > i > > > > did have some green tea - but really watered down). 2 eggs, 2 > > > turkey > > > > sausages (shelton farms brand, very natural, no funny stuff) > and > > a > > > > big pile of steamed greens with raw butter, lemon, sea salt & > > > chopped > > > > tomatoes mixed in. this is a normal weekend breakfast for me > and > > > > usually it fills me up and energizes me. today, i was still > > hungry > > > > afterwards, and i've felt so tired ever since. its now 4 hours > > > since > > > > we had breakfst, i've been hungry and really tired the whole > > time. > > > > > > > > i've been drinking some water to counteract the green tea, that > > > seems > > > > to be helping a little with the fatigue. > > > > > > > > its such a bummer to have good days, and then feel so dragged > > down > > > > and tired! i wasn't this tired before beginning the diet. i > guess > > > its > > > > part of the process... > > > > > > > > i'm thinking about the fasting idea, good bone broths and > blended > > > > veggie juices. is that a good idea when i'm feeling so hungry? > or > > > > should i keep eating good foods until the starving feeling > > > subsides, > > > > then ease into a fast in a day or two... > > > > > > > > hope everyone else is feeling great!! > > > > > > > > thanks for any advice ~ chefsuz/susan :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 I'd love to see what you come up with for a daily regimen/diet. In fact I'd love to see what other people on this forum come up with. It's interesting to see what's working and what's not and why. By writing my schedule down, and putting it up as chart, I can remember to add " digestive enzymes " , for example, before each meal because there it is on the page. Also, I can remember the supplements I want to remember to take between meals. And maybe most important is that I can rotate the whole diet so I'm not eating the same foods more than 5 days in a row to avoid food allergies... I'm going to write down when I take a nap. I usually wait until it's too late like 4 or 5 -- I'm going to try to make myself remember to lie down around 2 or so. Then on the busy days, I can at least have something to try to attain instead of panicking and worrying that I'm overwhelmed with all this stuff in my head. _____ From: chefsuz2 [mailto:thenaturalkitchen@...] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 10:27 AM Subject: [ ] Re: robin -daily plans i'm planning daily physical activity as well! every morning either a fast paced walk for about 45 minutes, or approx 20-30 minutes of yoga or pilates every day. i'll be like " the little engine that could " , one of these days i'll make it up that hill!! oh yes, " free days " are like gold. i had my morning client cancel for today, and i'm actually glad, as in the same five minutes someone booked for wednesday afternoon. so i can move slowly and deliberately this morning. and i like all those spices you mentioned. are you doing spices and no herbs? if so, any reason? i woke up early today, feeling sluggish and tired and worried that i'd have another difficult day. i did a pilates 20 minute video workout and i feel energized, thank goodness! i've just become interested in pilates as i had a slipped disk in january and it was the most painful thing i've ever felt! i was out of work for weeks, and lived on our new living room floor for the first 10 days (we were in the process of moving when my back went out!) my fiancee had to do everything for me, i literally couldn't even crawl for the first 4 days. it was a stressful time for both of us. but we came through it so well, with an even deeper love. i've been healing it naturally, no chiro, no accupunture, nothing except being very good to it and letting it do its thing. but i've gotten softer all over from not being as physically active as i used to be. i made a promise to myself and to my back when i was immobile, that when i could walk again, i'd get stronger than before, and protect my back from ever having this happen again! and pilates is good, i hear, for getting strong. its amazing how stress can weaken the body. physically, emotionally, immune system etc. i will keep a diary of my days: foods eaten, activity levels, stress levels, and how i'm feeling. i think its a really good plan. > > > > Hi , When I first found out that I had Candida I changed > my > > > diet and > > > > became so dreadfully tired and weak. That was a couple months > > ago. > > > I went > > > > through the " die-off " and seemed to be doing a little bit > better > > in > > > terms of > > > > energy but lately had a couple slip-ups (1. rice, 2. too much > > > coconut oil.) > > > > I am trying to get back on track. > > > > > > > > Those slip-ups made me realize that, although I thought I was > > > committed to > > > > sticking to this stupid diet, I still wasn't taking my problem > > > seriously > > > > enough. This morning was a kind of epiphany, (or maybe a > > > catharsis?,) as I > > > > cried for the first time in at least two years -- I just felt > so > > > overwhelmed > > > > with backed-up work and generally, so pathetic and miserable. > > > > > > > > But happily, I think it signaled a big change at how I look at > > this > > > thing. > > > > Although incredibly boring and awful, I'm going to eat only > very > > > simple > > > > " approved " foods, rest and continue these walks. I'm going to > > make > > > a " menu " > > > > for each day as I go along -- no more deciding when hungry > > of " what > > > am I > > > > going to have for lunch? " -- dilemmas. I've always looked at > food > > > creatively > > > > as I'm sure you do but now my creativity is going to be > expressed > > > in how > > > > simple (no more than 3 or 4 foods at any meal,) and " perfect " I > > can > > > make > > > > each of 3 or 4 small meals each day. No eating between, and no > > > worrying that > > > > I'm still hungry when I'm finished -- it's only gotten me into > > > trouble. I'm > > > > not going to worry about how skinny I get. (I frankly don't > think > > > I'll get > > > > much skinnier than this...) Also, no more " wonder " foods or > > cures -- > > > a > > > > balanced highly nutritional diet. Lots of green juices and a > > > variety of > > > > proteins, fats and oils. My exception is, each morning one half > > > apple eaten > > > > with almonds or another food to " ground " the sweetness. I will > > > alternate the > > > > " one small piece of fruit " with another that I can tolerate. > > > > > > > > I realized this morning that I hate this Candida problem so > much > > I > > > am > > > > willing to give up almost anything to be rid of it -- (It > > > particularly > > > > scares me when I hear some people with no real relief years > > later. > > > No way... > > > > > > > > I wish we were neighbors, (in fact this whole group!) -- that > way > > > we could > > > > share meals! > > > > > > > > It's nice to have the support of this group. > > > > ~Robin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > From: chefsuz2 [mailto:thenaturalkitchen@y...] > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 3:48 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: [ ] ? re: soaking nuts, and i'm tired > > today!! > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > > i've been sitting here catching up on some of the latest > chat... > > > and > > > > am getting really excited to make some of my own cabbage > > rejuvelac! > > > > the idea of it sounds so delicious to me right now, can't wait > to > > > sip > > > > some! > > > > > > > > re: soaking nuts - i'm soaking almonds and walnuts right now > with > > > sea > > > > salt. does it matter if the walnuts are in pieces, as the > soaking > > > is > > > > supposed to start the sprouting process? should we only use > whole > > > > nuts? > > > > > > > > my story: > > > > > > > > i went for a walk this morning (which has been much more > > difficult > > > > for me these last few weeks than usual), going the same route > i'm > > > > used to, i've tried three times in the last week to get up the > > same > > > > hill and haven't been able to make it to the top! (i used to > have > > > no > > > > problems going straight to the top, and even higher up another > > hill > > > > after that). its so disappointing! > > > > > > > > i started this candida cleanse after getting so itchy " you know > > > > where " (sorry if that's too much info for anyone) that i was > > > > scratching myself till i broke the skin. i would do it without > > > > realizing how uncomfortable i really was, until i finally got > it > > > one > > > > day - " this isn't normal!! " so i did the candida self tests and > > > came > > > > out a very strong " positive " , not only for itching, but a bunch > > of > > > > other little complaints as well. now i've been on the diet for > > > three > > > > weeks, and some days i feel great, others are just as bad as > > > before. > > > > > > > > yesterday was a busy day for me, we ran around town all day (on > > > foot, > > > > then in the car to farther places). i felt great all day > > yesterday, > > > > energized and happy... now today, i'm beat, and feeling > > > downhearted. > > > > but i'm keeping my sprits up best i can, reminding myself i > won't > > > > feel this way forever. > > > > > > > > i think i have to start being REALLY VIGILANT about what i put > in > > > my > > > > mouth. (ie: we ate dinner in a restaurant last night, i ordered > a > > > > cobb salad which had some blue cheese in it, and the dressing > > > > definitely had some vinegar in it, the bacon probably was > loaded > > > with > > > > sulphites, AND i snacked on some turkey jerky earlier in the > day > > > > which turns out to have sugar and vinegar in the marinade). > > > > > > > > i had a completely candida-friendly breakfast this morning > > (though > > > i > > > > did have some green tea - but really watered down). 2 eggs, 2 > > > turkey > > > > sausages (shelton farms brand, very natural, no funny stuff) > and > > a > > > > big pile of steamed greens with raw butter, lemon, sea salt & > > > chopped > > > > tomatoes mixed in. this is a normal weekend breakfast for me > and > > > > usually it fills me up and energizes me. today, i was still > > hungry > > > > afterwards, and i've felt so tired ever since. its now 4 hours > > > since > > > > we had breakfst, i've been hungry and really tired the whole > > time. > > > > > > > > i've been drinking some water to counteract the green tea, that > > > seems > > > > to be helping a little with the fatigue. > > > > > > > > its such a bummer to have good days, and then feel so dragged > > down > > > > and tired! i wasn't this tired before beginning the diet. i > guess > > > its > > > > part of the process... > > > > > > > > i'm thinking about the fasting idea, good bone broths and > blended > > > > veggie juices. is that a good idea when i'm feeling so hungry? > or > > > > should i keep eating good foods until the starving feeling > > > subsides, > > > > then ease into a fast in a day or two... > > > > > > > > hope everyone else is feeling great!! > > > > > > > > thanks for any advice ~ chefsuz/susan :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 yes, it will be a good challenge for me to make a regimen. i'm very creative and not very organised. but i'll keep my diary. i think it would be great for others to join in too. it would be very interesting to see what variations people have in their recovery plans. i'm doing this as all self-presribed. taking grapefruit seed extract 2x day. acidophilus powder every other day or so. but i remember bee saying that unless the candida is under control, the good flora can't re-establish. i wonder if i'm wasting money eating acidophilus right now? i also want to begin having kombucha again on a daily basis. i love it! if others are interested in joining a journalling process, maybe we can come up with some general info for us all to share. ie: how did you test for candida? seeing any practicioners? taking anything? blood type? etc... > > > > > Hi , When I first found out that I had Candida I changed > > my > > > > diet and > > > > > became so dreadfully tired and weak. That was a couple months > > > ago. > > > > I went > > > > > through the " die-off " and seemed to be doing a little bit > > better > > > in > > > > terms of > > > > > energy but lately had a couple slip-ups (1. rice, 2. too much > > > > coconut oil.) > > > > > I am trying to get back on track. > > > > > > > > > > Those slip-ups made me realize that, although I thought I was > > > > committed to > > > > > sticking to this stupid diet, I still wasn't taking my > problem > > > > seriously > > > > > enough. This morning was a kind of epiphany, (or maybe a > > > > catharsis?,) as I > > > > > cried for the first time in at least two years -- I just felt > > so > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > with backed-up work and generally, so pathetic and miserable. > > > > > > > > > > But happily, I think it signaled a big change at how I look > at > > > this > > > > thing. > > > > > Although incredibly boring and awful, I'm going to eat only > > very > > > > simple > > > > > " approved " foods, rest and continue these walks. I'm going to > > > make > > > > a " menu " > > > > > for each day as I go along -- no more deciding when hungry > > > of " what > > > > am I > > > > > going to have for lunch? " -- dilemmas. I've always looked at > > food > > > > creatively > > > > > as I'm sure you do but now my creativity is going to be > > expressed > > > > in how > > > > > simple (no more than 3 or 4 foods at any meal,) and " perfect " > I > > > can > > > > make > > > > > each of 3 or 4 small meals each day. No eating between, and > no > > > > worrying that > > > > > I'm still hungry when I'm finished -- it's only gotten me > into > > > > trouble. I'm > > > > > not going to worry about how skinny I get. (I frankly don't > > think > > > > I'll get > > > > > much skinnier than this...) Also, no more " wonder " foods or > > > cures -- > > > > a > > > > > balanced highly nutritional diet. Lots of green juices and a > > > > variety of > > > > > proteins, fats and oils. My exception is, each morning one > half > > > > apple eaten > > > > > with almonds or another food to " ground " the sweetness. I > will > > > > alternate the > > > > > " one small piece of fruit " with another that I can tolerate. > > > > > > > > > > I realized this morning that I hate this Candida problem so > > much > > > I > > > > am > > > > > willing to give up almost anything to be rid of it -- (It > > > > particularly > > > > > scares me when I hear some people with no real relief years > > > later. > > > > No way... > > > > > > > > > > I wish we were neighbors, (in fact this whole group!) -- that > > way > > > > we could > > > > > share meals! > > > > > > > > > > It's nice to have the support of this group. > > > > > ~Robin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: chefsuz2 [mailto:thenaturalkitchen@y...] > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 3:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [ ] ? re: soaking nuts, and i'm tired > > > today!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > > > > i've been sitting here catching up on some of the latest > > chat... > > > > and > > > > > am getting really excited to make some of my own cabbage > > > rejuvelac! > > > > > the idea of it sounds so delicious to me right now, can't > wait > > to > > > > sip > > > > > some! > > > > > > > > > > re: soaking nuts - i'm soaking almonds and walnuts right now > > with > > > > sea > > > > > salt. does it matter if the walnuts are in pieces, as the > > soaking > > > > is > > > > > supposed to start the sprouting process? should we only use > > whole > > > > > nuts? > > > > > > > > > > my story: > > > > > > > > > > i went for a walk this morning (which has been much more > > > difficult > > > > > for me these last few weeks than usual), going the same route > > i'm > > > > > used to, i've tried three times in the last week to get up > the > > > same > > > > > hill and haven't been able to make it to the top! (i used to > > have > > > > no > > > > > problems going straight to the top, and even higher up > another > > > hill > > > > > after that). its so disappointing! > > > > > > > > > > i started this candida cleanse after getting so itchy " you > know > > > > > where " (sorry if that's too much info for anyone) that i was > > > > > scratching myself till i broke the skin. i would do it > without > > > > > realizing how uncomfortable i really was, until i finally got > > it > > > > one > > > > > day - " this isn't normal!! " so i did the candida self tests > and > > > > came > > > > > out a very strong " positive " , not only for itching, but a > bunch > > > of > > > > > other little complaints as well. now i've been on the diet > for > > > > three > > > > > weeks, and some days i feel great, others are just as bad as > > > > before. > > > > > > > > > > yesterday was a busy day for me, we ran around town all day > (on > > > > foot, > > > > > then in the car to farther places). i felt great all day > > > yesterday, > > > > > energized and happy... now today, i'm beat, and feeling > > > > downhearted. > > > > > but i'm keeping my sprits up best i can, reminding myself i > > won't > > > > > feel this way forever. > > > > > > > > > > i think i have to start being REALLY VIGILANT about what i > put > > in > > > > my > > > > > mouth. (ie: we ate dinner in a restaurant last night, i > ordered > > a > > > > > cobb salad which had some blue cheese in it, and the dressing > > > > > definitely had some vinegar in it, the bacon probably was > > loaded > > > > with > > > > > sulphites, AND i snacked on some turkey jerky earlier in the > > day > > > > > which turns out to have sugar and vinegar in the marinade). > > > > > > > > > > i had a completely candida-friendly breakfast this morning > > > (though > > > > i > > > > > did have some green tea - but really watered down). 2 eggs, 2 > > > > turkey > > > > > sausages (shelton farms brand, very natural, no funny stuff) > > and > > > a > > > > > big pile of steamed greens with raw butter, lemon, sea salt & > > > > chopped > > > > > tomatoes mixed in. this is a normal weekend breakfast for me > > and > > > > > usually it fills me up and energizes me. today, i was still > > > hungry > > > > > afterwards, and i've felt so tired ever since. its now 4 > hours > > > > since > > > > > we had breakfst, i've been hungry and really tired the whole > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > i've been drinking some water to counteract the green tea, > that > > > > seems > > > > > to be helping a little with the fatigue. > > > > > > > > > > its such a bummer to have good days, and then feel so dragged > > > down > > > > > and tired! i wasn't this tired before beginning the diet. i > > guess > > > > its > > > > > part of the process... > > > > > > > > > > i'm thinking about the fasting idea, good bone broths and > > blended > > > > > veggie juices. is that a good idea when i'm feeling so > hungry? > > or > > > > > should i keep eating good foods until the starving feeling > > > > subsides, > > > > > then ease into a fast in a day or two... > > > > > > > > > > hope everyone else is feeling great!! > > > > > > > > > > thanks for any advice ~ chefsuz/susan :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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