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Dans un e-mail daté du 08/07/2004 18:37:20 Romance Standard Time,

oohthisloveis@... a écrit :

> I was just wondering how people know if your candida is acting up?

> Whats signs do I look for. Its been so long since I felt normal its

> hard for me to decipher good days from bad days any more. Can someone

> help?

>

Besides feeling listless, my tongue gets whiter and I have more white strings

and white mucus in my BM.

Francine

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I feel the same way you do but for me dandruff will get bad and also

i'll get a sore throat

> I was just wondering how people know if your candida is acting up?

> Whats signs do I look for. Its been so long since I felt normal its

> hard for me to decipher good days from bad days any more. Can

someone

> help?

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I think the key things for me are feeling so tired and run down during the

day that it's hard to keep awake, then having trouble getting to sleep at

night; having fitful sleep and really weird dreams (I'm not sure if they

are actually weird or if I'm just seeing them that way); intestines

growling a lot and generating large amounts of gas; a general feeling of

" blah " that includes my liver, pancreas area and/or neck and throat

hurting; eyes burning a lot; " brain fog " and no attention span and

inability to remember and concentrate.

There may be a few more but I can't remember them at the moment. :-)

Zack

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, youngjaem wrote:

> I feel the same way you do but for me dandruff will get bad and also

> i'll get a sore throat

>

>

> > I was just wondering how people know if your candida is acting up?

> > Whats signs do I look for. Its been so long since I felt normal its

> > hard for me to decipher good days from bad days any more. Can

> someone

> > help?

>

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zack, youngjaem and ohhthisloveis - I was wondering how much rejuvelac and

cultured vegetables you eat/consume each day? Please reply if you can -

thanks!

Ethan

>From: Zack Widup <w9sz@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Re: How can you tell if your candida is

>acting up?

>Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:36:36 -0500 (CDT)

>

>I think the key things for me are feeling so tired and run down during the

>day that it's hard to keep awake, then having trouble getting to sleep at

>night; having fitful sleep and really weird dreams (I'm not sure if they

>are actually weird or if I'm just seeing them that way); intestines

>growling a lot and generating large amounts of gas; a general feeling of

> " blah " that includes my liver, pancreas area and/or neck and throat

>hurting; eyes burning a lot; " brain fog " and no attention span and

>inability to remember and concentrate.

>

>There may be a few more but I can't remember them at the moment. :-)

>

>Zack

>

>

>On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, youngjaem wrote:

>

> > I feel the same way you do but for me dandruff will get bad and also

> > i'll get a sore throat

> >

> >

> > > I was just wondering how people know if your candida is acting up?

> > > Whats signs do I look for. Its been so long since I felt normal its

> > > hard for me to decipher good days from bad days any more. Can

> > someone

> > > help?

> >

>

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Hi Ethan,

I haven't been using rejuvelac or cultured vegetables. I do eat a lot of

fresh vegetables each day. They are just coming in season around here now

and I can buy them from farmers' stands when they've just been picked.

Great stuff!

I've been taking probiotics I bought at a local vitamin store. They are

in gelatin capsules.

Zack

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Ethan Kur wrote:

> zack, youngjaem and ohhthisloveis - I was wondering how much rejuvelac and

> cultured vegetables you eat/consume each day? Please reply if you can -

> thanks!

>

> Ethan

>

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Hi,

My stomach is my weakest link, so when my stomach hurts my candida is

acting up. I also get bloated, have headaches and my liver hurts.

Sometimes I get joint and muscle pains, and I have difficulty

sleeping. Last night I didn't get to sleep until 5:00 AM and had to

call in to work sick.

Also the floaters in my left eye increase to the point of becoming

annoying.

Bee

> I was just wondering how people know if your candida is acting up?

> Whats signs do I look for. Its been so long since I felt normal its

> hard for me to decipher good days from bad days any more. Can

someone

> help?

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Dans un e-mail daté du 09/07/2004 01:12:28 Romance Standard Time,

w9sz@... a écrit :

> I think the key things for me are feeling so tired and run down during the

> day that it's hard to keep awake, then having trouble getting to sleep at

> night; having fitful sleep and really weird dreams (I'm not sure if they

> are actually weird or if I'm just seeing them that way); intestines

> growling a lot and generating large amounts of gas; a general feeling of

> " blah " that includes my liver, pancreas area and/or neck and throat

> hurting; eyes burning a lot; " brain fog " and no attention span and

> inability to remember and concentrate.

Same for me; I nap during the day and I never used to do that. Sometimes I go

to bed at 10 or 11, and usually I went to bed at 1 or 2--I am a night bird.

My sleep is usually good but my dreams seem to be more vivid. I have less gas

since I started the diet and stopped eating cereals, but still more than

normal. I have slight pains in my bones/muscles/neck and occasional liver pains.

I

cant walk for more than 10 minutes without having to pay the price the next day

. The brain fog is not so bad since I started the diet but my mental

capacities are not at the top and I am more forgetful than usual.

That'sthe normal state. These symptoms get worse on bad days when I have a

lot of mucus and white strings in my BM. By the way, candida is aptly named

because, whether its the coating on the tongue or the strings in BM, its all

pure

white.

Francine

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Wow thats how I get too! Also really spacey and short term memory

loss..........I will lose stuff like my keys 5 times during the day. I also

have a lot of anxiety attacks and I will have some light headed/ balance

problems. All of this usually happens if I have been really stressed and not

eating right for a week or so........than it will all hit me at once.

Really bad is red skin rash and a strange body odor.

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I think the key things for me are feeling so tired and run down during the

day that it's hard to keep awake, then having trouble getting to sleep at

night; having fitful sleep and really weird dreams (I'm not sure if they

are actually weird or if I'm just seeing them that way); intestines

growling a lot and generating large amounts of gas; a general feeling of

" blah " that includes my liver, pancreas area and/or neck and throat

hurting; eyes burning a lot; " brain fog " and no attention span and

inability to remember and concentrate.

There may be a few more but I can't remember them at the moment. :-)

Zack

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, youngjaem wrote:

> I feel the same way you do but for me dandruff will get bad and also

> i'll get a sore throat

>

>

> > I was just wondering how people know if your candida is acting up?

> > Whats signs do I look for. Its been so long since I felt normal its

> > hard for me to decipher good days from bad days any more. Can

> someone

> > help?

>

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It'a getting better, but the worst happened a few weeks ago. I was

talking to my boss on the phone about a couple things he wanted me to do.

I started writing the first one down while he was talking. Then he said

to try to get both of them done tomorrow. I said " What two things, I

thought there was just one. " He said " You better go take more vitamins. "

:-)

Zack

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 jeannekrieg@... wrote:

> Wow thats how I get too! Also really spacey and short term memory

loss..........I will lose stuff like my keys 5 times during the day. I also

have a lot of anxiety attacks and I will have some light headed/ balance

problems. All of this usually happens if I have been really stressed and not

eating right for a week or so........than it will all hit me at once.

> Really bad is red skin rash and a strange body odor.

>

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Hi everyone.

I am very glad to learn that all of these assorted symptoms are actually

coming from the same cause--candida! I too am experiencing most of the same

things. Somehow I find it reassuring to now have a name for the culprit.

Makes it easier to cope. Silly, I know.

What causes the floaters in the eyes? I've been trying to figure this out

since I first noticed them in my eyes 3 months ago. I didn't realize they

could be due to candida....

Kim M.

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Wow Zack. That's incredible that you were so spaced out you didn't

get that your boss wanted two things. But you must have a great boss

to say " you better go take more vitamins " eh? If you have a great

boss it can make all the difference in the world. It's a matter of

their viewpoint isn't it?

The best,

Bee

> It'a getting better, but the worst happened a few weeks ago. I was

> talking to my boss on the phone about a couple things he wanted me

to do.

> I started writing the first one down while he was talking. Then he

said

> to try to get both of them done tomorrow. I said " What two things,

I

> thought there was just one. " He said " You better go take more

vitamins. "

>

> :-)

>

> Zack

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Dear Kim,

About floaters in the eyes. I don't know the mechanisms that cause

them. I only know they are very prevalent in candida sufferers.

They will lessen and then totally disappear when the candida is cured.

Bee

> Hi everyone.

>

> I am very glad to learn that all of these assorted symptoms are

actually

> coming from the same cause--candida! I too am experiencing most of

the same

> things. Somehow I find it reassuring to now have a name for the

culprit.

> Makes it easier to cope. Silly, I know.

>

> What causes the floaters in the eyes? I've been trying to figure

this out

> since I first noticed them in my eyes 3 months ago. I didn't

realize they

> could be due to candida....

>

> Kim M.

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I get these floaters too -- mainly in the left eye. I noticed that

they've been disappearing lately. Its probably due to the anti

candida diet. I feel so run down today. I bet you its die off or

maybe its something I ate. Oh well, I have faith that I'll get over

this soon thanks to all of you guys.

Have a nice day!

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Interesting! I have been trying to determine just how long I've had a

candida overgrowth. I've had those floaters for about 10 years.

The other symptoms that I associate with candida go back maybe 5 years.

So it could be there was an overgrowth starting as far back as 10 years,

but not major until more recently.

Zack

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Bee wrote:

> Dear Kim,

>

> About floaters in the eyes. I don't know the mechanisms that cause

> them. I only know they are very prevalent in candida sufferers.

> They will lessen and then totally disappear when the candida is cured.

>

> Bee

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That's great that your floaters have been disappearing lately. Mine

come and go too and but seem to be less and less as time goes on.

Hang in there. Some days are good and some are bad eh? Keep on

doing what you are doing. It seems to be working for you.

You have a nice day too!

Bee

> I get these floaters too -- mainly in the left eye. I noticed that

> they've been disappearing lately. Its probably due to the anti

> candida diet. I feel so run down today. I bet you its die off or

> maybe its something I ate. Oh well, I have faith that I'll get over

> this soon thanks to all of you guys.

>

> Have a nice day!

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Dear Zack,

It can be comforting to you when you pinpoint how long you've had

candida because according to Hering's law of cures it takes one month

of natural healing for every year. So 10 months to cure your candida

isn't very long is it?

Bee

> Interesting! I have been trying to determine just how long I've

had a

> candida overgrowth. I've had those floaters for about 10 years.

>

> The other symptoms that I associate with candida go back maybe 5

years.

> So it could be there was an overgrowth starting as far back as 10

years,

> but not major until more recently.

>

> Zack

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Dans un e-mail daté du 12/07/2004 21:24:48 Romance Standard Time,

thenaturalkitchen@... a écrit :

> my digestive problem varys between constipation w/ gas and then loose

> stools. this past week it was okay for a few days in a row (this is

> good progress!),

Glad to know you are having several good days in a row. it's a good sign and

very encouraging.

Keept it up!

Francine

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hey everybody,

this is an interesting discussion. we are all so similar in some of

these symptoms!

i get the eye floaters! and the circles under the eyes too. people

are always telling me i look tired, or asking me if i'm okay. yeah, i

know, real good for the self esteem... :-)

i am spacey, have trouble speaking, that's really annoying. i wrote

to ethan a while back, that before i got the clue to test myself for

candida, i was really having trouble with my words. pretty scary when

you lose the ablility to communicate effectively and intelligently. i

forget the word i'm looking for by the time i reach the end of my

sentence. so my sentences trail off into " uhhhh, the uhhhhh, the

thing " . i just end up saying " the thing " a lot. " the thing " can be a

noun, verb, adjective, its ridiculous, just so i can finish the

sentence! oh i long for the days when i can speak intelligently

again! at least i'm aware that candida can cause this, because before

i was scared i was getting an early case of alsheimers or something

(i'm only 35!)

i have serious digestive troubles, that's a major one, and major

itching in private parts. i got very physically exhausted once i

began the candida program, that got better for a while, last week i

was feeling very tired once again. so i'm realising it will be coming

and going as i stick to this program. i've been faithfully following

diet for at least 2 1/2 months now. no fruit except lemons &

occasional lime, no potatoes or grains or gluten in any form, no

sweeteners except stevia.

my digestive problem varys between constipation w/ gas and then loose

stools. this past week it was okay for a few days in a row (this is

good progress!), now yesterday and today its back on the bad cycle of

being too stuck, then too loose.

my abdomen is very gurgly and noisy, its been like that for years.

i'm checking into other possible sources of this extra digestive

trouble. a friend has put my attention to a possible bacterial

overgrowth in addition to the candida overgrowth.

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com.

NOTE:some of the dietary recommendations DO NOT correspond with our

candida program. i am only just beginning to look at this as a

possible explanation for my troubles, and i still go by our dietary

protocol here, i may to incorporate some of the recommendations for

the bacteria problem without going against what we do here.

i've gone through some major changes & experimentations in dietary

approaches in the last few years, so i know i've done a number on

myself and my poor exhausted digestive system. i'm prepared for a

long haul to re-stablize my insides.

on a good note: my allergies and dry skin problems are much less

severe since beginning the diet. and i'm very blessed to have a

supportive and understanding fiancee, which is a world of good for me.

best to all ~ suz :)

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wow, I get dark cirlces under my eyes as well. I noticed they've

been slowly clearing up since I've been on the anti candida diet. I

also used to have problems with my speech. This is crazy how bad

these candida symptoms can get. I wonder how long it takes for

candida to attack to this extent?

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you lose the ablility to communicate effectively

Uhhhh Uhhhhh I just thought Ummm it was my errrr you know thingy........ age,

certain woman.GOOODNESSS I so identify with this is brought me out of lurkdom

Lesley

[ ] Re: how can you tell if your candida is acting up?

hey everybody,

this is an interesting discussion. we are all so similar in some of

these symptoms!

i get the eye floaters! and the circles under the eyes too. people

are always telling me i look tired, or asking me if i'm okay. yeah, i

know, real good for the self esteem... :-)

i am spacey, have trouble speaking, that's really annoying. i wrote

to ethan a while back, that before i got the clue to test myself for

candida, i was really having trouble with my words. pretty scary when

you lose the ablility to communicate effectively and intelligently. i

forget the word i'm looking for by the time i reach the end of my

sentence. so my sentences trail off into " uhhhh, the uhhhhh, the

thing " . i just end up saying " the thing " a lot. " the thing " can be a

noun, verb, adjective, its ridiculous, just so i can finish the

sentence! oh i long for the days when i can speak intelligently

again! at least i'm aware that candida can cause this, because before

i was scared i was getting an early case of alsheimers or something

(i'm only 35!)

i have serious digestive troubles, that's a major one, and major

itching in private parts. i got very physically exhausted once i

began the candida program, that got better for a while, last week i

was feeling very tired once again. so i'm realising it will be coming

and going as i stick to this program. i've been faithfully following

diet for at least 2 1/2 months now. no fruit except lemons &

occasional lime, no potatoes or grains or gluten in any form, no

sweeteners except stevia.

my digestive problem varys between constipation w/ gas and then loose

stools. this past week it was okay for a few days in a row (this is

good progress!), now yesterday and today its back on the bad cycle of

being too stuck, then too loose.

my abdomen is very gurgly and noisy, its been like that for years.

i'm checking into other possible sources of this extra digestive

trouble. a friend has put my attention to a possible bacterial

overgrowth in addition to the candida overgrowth.

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com.

NOTE:some of the dietary recommendations DO NOT correspond with our

candida program. i am only just beginning to look at this as a

possible explanation for my troubles, and i still go by our dietary

protocol here, i may to incorporate some of the recommendations for

the bacteria problem without going against what we do here.

i've gone through some major changes & experimentations in dietary

approaches in the last few years, so i know i've done a number on

myself and my poor exhausted digestive system. i'm prepared for a

long haul to re-stablize my insides.

on a good note: my allergies and dry skin problems are much less

severe since beginning the diet. and i'm very blessed to have a

supportive and understanding fiancee, which is a world of good for me.

best to all ~ suz :)

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Candida can be wrecking it's havoc for many years without us

realizing what is causing the many problems we are experiencing. I

had candida for 25 years, and probably longer, before I started the

candida program. It doesn't take very long for candida to start

creating problems - 2-3 months, which is what has happened recently

with my 2nd bout of candida.

Bee

> wow, I get dark cirlces under my eyes as well. I noticed they've

> been slowly clearing up since I've been on the anti candida diet. I

> also used to have problems with my speech. This is crazy how bad

> these candida symptoms can get. I wonder how long it takes for

> candida to attack to this extent?

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Dear Lesley,

Welcome to our group out of luckdom. We'd love to hear from you more

often. Losing the ability to communicate can be a big problem with

candida, but it is good to know the cause, eh? As you progress

through the candida program your speech will get better and better.

Just think about how impressed your family and friends are going to

be that you've suddenly become more intelligent. lol!

The best,

Bee

> you lose the ablility to communicate effectively

>

>

> Uhhhh Uhhhhh I just thought Ummm it was my errrr you know

thingy........ age, certain woman.GOOODNESSS I so identify with this

is brought me out of lurkdom

> Lesley

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