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Hi all. I don't know that I have posted here before but I do want to

respond to the one message about 'The Medicine Program.' I can testify

that this is for real and I am in the process of obtaining information

from The Program so I can help others in my community.

I did send for the information and it did cost $5 for each prescription

that I wanted them to handle. So, far it has saved me a fortune. One

prescription for Prevacid was costing me $116 for 30. But after I

received the paperwork from the Medicine Program, I filled it out

immediately, took it to my rheumatologist, sent it in myself and had a

bottle of 100 in a weeks time. That would have cost almost $400 if I

hadn't tried this program. I am very pleased with it and I intend to

tell others about it.

They have reasonable guidelines to qualify for this program. When I

sent my paperwork in, I also included my W-2 from 1999. I didn't have

to but then I have nothing to hide either.

I was putting out over $320 a month for medicine for my Rheumatoid

Arthritis and for my Fibromyalgia also.

If anyone has any questions I'd be glad to answer them. I feel it is

about time that the BIG drug companies finally give alittle because they

sure don't in their retail prices. There just are no breaks when it

comes to doctors or medicines. But this is worth looking into. Oh, and

you don't have to go through your doctor at first. Included in the

papers from the Medicine Program is a letter to your doctor, a check

list, a sheet that explains everything and with each medication,

depending on the drug manufacturer, their qualifications and the address

of the indigent program for that drug company.

Again, if anyone is interested feel free to contact me.

Judy

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Judy,

Thanks so much for your input. I've often wondered if anyone uses these

programs and if so, how they work. I will make sure I give this

information to those without insurance.

a

----- Original Message -----

From: <judykcook@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:16 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1237

>

> Hi all. I don't know that I have posted here before but I do want to

> respond to the one message about 'The Medicine Program.' I can testify

> that this is for real and I am in the process of obtaining information

> from The Program so I can help others in my community.

> I did send for the information and it did cost $5 for each prescription

> that I wanted them to handle. So, far it has saved me a fortune. One

> prescription for Prevacid was costing me $116 for 30. But after I

> received the paperwork from the Medicine Program, I filled it out

> immediately, took it to my rheumatologist, sent it in myself and had a

> bottle of 100 in a weeks time. That would have cost almost $400 if I

> hadn't tried this program. I am very pleased with it and I intend to

> tell others about it.

> They have reasonable guidelines to qualify for this program. When I

> sent my paperwork in, I also included my W-2 from 1999. I didn't have

> to but then I have nothing to hide either.

> I was putting out over $320 a month for medicine for my Rheumatoid

> Arthritis and for my Fibromyalgia also.

> If anyone has any questions I'd be glad to answer them. I feel it is

> about time that the BIG drug companies finally give alittle because they

> sure don't in their retail prices. There just are no breaks when it

> comes to doctors or medicines. But this is worth looking into. Oh, and

> you don't have to go through your doctor at first. Included in the

> papers from the Medicine Program is a letter to your doctor, a check

> list, a sheet that explains everything and with each medication,

> depending on the drug manufacturer, their qualifications and the address

> of the indigent program for that drug company.

> Again, if anyone is interested feel free to contact me.

> Judy

>

>

>

>

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More importantly, the lack of research shouldn't dissuade a parent

from trying enzymes. Enzyme use is inexpensive, safe, and any

benefits should be readily observable within 2 months at most. So,

while research results would be great and should eventually be

forthcoming, their value may be minimal compared to the ease of use,

safety, and lack of expense in a trial run.

Devin

Thank you Devin. This is basically the background information about enzymes

that I was looking for. I haven't been on-list long and was wondering about

the safety of giving these enzymes to my son. I will give them a trial run,

for about two months as you say, and we'll see.

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Can anyone help me with understanding why Dr. Goldberg is prescribing Septra

antibiotic for my son. I would call his office but I don't think I can get an

answer right away and I am to start this soon. My son is on Nizoral, Celexa,

Zovirax (we recently switched from Valtrex to see if he will respond as well)

and

Zrtec syrup at night (an antihistimine). My son has a rash all over his genital

area and buttcks which causes him to have his hands in his pants alot. I have

been

concerned over this since he just started kindergarten and he seemed to regress

a

little when going off of Valtrex. I also thought the Nizoral might no longer be

effective because it has been six months that he has been on it.A lot of his

behaviors seem yeast related. I was expecting him to change the Nizoral. But he

wants me to put him on the antibiotics. I don't have a phone consultation for

quite awhile and all of this has been done through email and a phone call back

from someone in his office, usually two to three days later. Anyway, I was

hoping

someone could help be understand the reasoning behind this as my sons digestion

was so messed up from being pumped full of antibiotics at birth. I have had him

on

acidopholus, Nystatin and now the Nizoral for 1 1/2 years and his digestion is

doing great along with the other improvements on the protocol. I was also

concerned over the one parents email whose son has an allergic response to a

sulpha antiobiotic. I suppose this isn't common but with our kids who knows?

Anyway any ehlp you can send my way whould be greatly appreciated. Jerri Gann

P.S.

we have been following the protocol for six months and are seeing

tremendous

results for my son.

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At 10:37 AM 6/10/03 +0000, you wrote:

>TESTIMONIAL OF CURED PATIENT FROM BRAIN CANCER

>On 25.11.2002 I received a phone call from Dr. Rath in person. He

>told me that he had just got my report that day, and that I was the

>first patient in the history of medicine whose brain tumour had

>vanished completely through treatment with Cellular Medicine.

Interesting. Brain cancer has disappeared with a man using DNR's COF-EX

soak and drops. He used the soak to keep a turban on his head wet, and

used the drops to support the release of toxins. His brain cancer was

" absorbed " in less than 10 days. His doctor didn't expect him to survive

even weeks of the inoperable cancer.

This information was posted before here.

M.

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At 10:37 AM 6/10/03 +0000, you wrote:

>TESTIMONIAL OF CURED PATIENT FROM BRAIN CANCER

>On 25.11.2002 I received a phone call from Dr. Rath in person. He

>told me that he had just got my report that day, and that I was the

>first patient in the history of medicine whose brain tumour had

>vanished completely through treatment with Cellular Medicine.

Interesting. Brain cancer has disappeared with a man using DNR's COF-EX

soak and drops. He used the soak to keep a turban on his head wet, and

used the drops to support the release of toxins. His brain cancer was

" absorbed " in less than 10 days. His doctor didn't expect him to survive

even weeks of the inoperable cancer.

This information was posted before here.

M.

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Alright, you peaked my curiosity, so tell us what is a DNR and

what is a COF-EX.

BOB

> >TESTIMONIAL OF CURED PATIENT FROM BRAIN CANCER

> >On 25.11.2002 I received a phone call from Dr. Rath in person. He

> >told me that he had just got my report that day, and that I was the

> >first patient in the history of medicine whose brain tumour had

> >vanished completely through treatment with Cellular Medicine.

>

> Interesting. Brain cancer has disappeared with a man using DNR's

COF-EX

> soak and drops. He used the soak to keep a turban on his head wet,

and

> used the drops to support the release of toxins. His brain cancer

was

> " absorbed " in less than 10 days. His doctor didn't expect him to

survive

> even weeks of the inoperable cancer.

>

> This information was posted before here.

>

> M.

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Alright, you peaked my curiosity, so tell us what is a DNR and

what is a COF-EX.

BOB

> >TESTIMONIAL OF CURED PATIENT FROM BRAIN CANCER

> >On 25.11.2002 I received a phone call from Dr. Rath in person. He

> >told me that he had just got my report that day, and that I was the

> >first patient in the history of medicine whose brain tumour had

> >vanished completely through treatment with Cellular Medicine.

>

> Interesting. Brain cancer has disappeared with a man using DNR's

COF-EX

> soak and drops. He used the soak to keep a turban on his head wet,

and

> used the drops to support the release of toxins. His brain cancer

was

> " absorbed " in less than 10 days. His doctor didn't expect him to

survive

> even weeks of the inoperable cancer.

>

> This information was posted before here.

>

> M.

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www.andrewsreiter.com

In a message dated 9/15/03 11:25:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

> Subject: more info!

>

> Where is this??

> sherry@...

>

>

> " If you are not satisfied with your " quality of life " and feel you need

> better medical care, I suggest you do what I did that put me on the path to

> better health - visit the

> s-Reiter Epilepsy Clinic website and ask questions. "

> Good luck.

>

>

MJH

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Has anyone been involved in using the Essence of Care tools for bench

marking in

Health Visiting???

Re this issue I think I looked at it generally in passing in the

Clinical Governance project work I did with a few years ago, not

specifically for HV's. I think that report is a part of the King's web-based

resources now or soon to be? Am right in that ?

On another issue I was really interested in Robyn's PhD, another interesting

resource. What a challenging piece of work, well done. It was really good to

look outside of the health-based box and try on another perspective and a

whole other interesting literature, meeting the challenge of health based

issues. BUT Robyn how could you do it?? How could you lay yourself so bare,

what a challenge, what courage, I am in awe of the process that you

undertook of placing such an enormous challenge (running out of different

words to use) challenge is it I think, you challenged yourself, your own

practice and literally put yourself on the line, in the search for knowledge

of how health visitors work with families! Well done thank you so much for

your willingness to share the process, including the painful bits. If you

haven't been to look please do go and look at Robyn's thesis, it is

wonderful of her to share it with us and it is valuable for us to address a

different literature and think out of the box for a moment and realise that

there are many ways to address how we work with families.

http://www.bath.ac.uk/~edsajw/pound/PROCH1.PDF

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>

>Subject: Digest Number 1237

>Date: 3 Jun 2004 03:42:38 -0000

>

>

>There are 4 messages in this issue.

>

>Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. Nursing competencies

> From: " Lobo Charlene Mrs (NAM) x652 " <c.lobo@...>

> 2. RE: Benchmarking

> From: " " <.@...>

> 3. RE: Digest Number 1229

> From: Loizou Pat <pat.loizou@...>

> 4. Re: Digest Number 1229

> From: " Ruth Grant " <ruth@...>

>

>

>________________________________________________________________________

>________________________________________________________________________

>

>Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:18:42 +0100

> From: " Lobo Charlene Mrs (NAM) x652 " <c.lobo@...>

>Subject: Nursing competencies

>

>Has anyone been involved with setting nursing competencies against a

>qualificatory framework?

>Charlene

>

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>Message: 2

> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:37:38 +0100

> From: " " <.@...>

>Subject: RE: Benchmarking

>

>Has anyone been involved in using the Essence of Care tools for bench

>marking in Health Visiting???

>

>

> Nursing competencies

>

>

>Has anyone been involved with setting nursing competencies against a

>qualificatory framework?

>Charlene

>

>

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On the note of proposing as Chief Nurse - I do understand why the statement was made and I guess we are all hoping the replacement will be someone who understands primary care and is willing to put forward a voice for health visiting and school nursing and will at the same time provide REAL leadership for the professions.

However you really need to think and try and understand what such a job is, means and requires of the person in it.

As a civil servant you are a servant of the government and will be obliged to toe the party line - step outside and their is punishment and almost it can feel like being sent to the "tower".

My sense is - and my experience tells me - that "real" health visitors are to free spirited to do such a job and would just not survive as they would be unable to challenge, to use the principles they adhere to and would be continually compromised ethically and professional.

Believe me it is not worth the salary or the title or the position - sanity, one's health and one's principles are a lot more important.

Margaret

RE: Digest Number 1237

Thanks for the info .

On another note is it possible for Senate members( in agreement)to propose as 'Chief Nurse' to DH?

Regards, Ann

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I would like to endorse what has said. i haven't looked at it yet but

it seems to fit so well with my masters research that I certainly will be

looking at it. thank you

Ann

Nursing competencies

> >

> >

> >Has anyone been involved with setting nursing competencies against a

> >qualificatory framework?

> >Charlene

> >

> >

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Thanks for the vote of confidence Ann, but I would certainly be 'persona

non grata' at the Department, and there is no position of 'Chief Health Visiting

Officer!' I am pretty sure that I would not want it if there was, and I

gather that Margaret is not planning to dust off her cv and apply for the

CNO post!!!

Actually, one thing I do congratulate Mullally for, is for actually

leaving after five years. I am quite seriously convinced that all these high

profile, national posts have a shelf of no longer than that, no matter whether

the person in them is brilliant or awful. One of the saddest things ever

was the two page spread in Nursing Times, when Hancock stepped

down as general secretary of the RCN. The first page was all full of people

saying how wonderful she had been when she first took the post and the second

page was full of mostly the same people saying a whole range of very negative

things about her last few years in post. I just think that is inevitiable

when people overstay, because these posts are so demanding.

There will be quite a shake out though, given that CNO Ann Jarvie is also

leaving Scotland in September and one traditional route has always been for

the ish CNO to migrate to England: clearly not going to happen this

time.

best wishes

sarah

Margaret Buttigieg wrote:

On the note of proposing as Chief

Nurse - I do understand why the statement was made and I guess we are all

hoping the replacement will be someone who understands primary care and

is willing to put forward a voice for health visiting and school nursing

and will at the same time provide REAL leadership for the professions.

However you really need to think and try and understand what such a job is, means and

requires of the person in it.

As a civil servant you are a servant of

the government and will be obliged to toe the party line - step outside

and their is punishment and almost it can feel like being sent to the "tower".

My sense is - and my experience tells

me - that "real" health visitors are to free spirited to do such a job and

would just not survive as they would be unable to challenge, to use the

principles they adhere to and would be continually compromised ethically

and professional.

Believe me it is not worth the salary

or the title or the position - sanity, one's health and one's principles

are a lot more important.

Margaret

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Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:35 PM

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RE: Digest Number 1237

Thanks for the info .

On another note is it possible for Senate members( in agreement)to

propose as 'Chief Nurse' to DH?

Regards, Ann

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HI

I am sure you are right about the shake out - many of those who seemed to be close to Mullaly I guess will go and perhaps some of the people who are more able to lead nursing may appear/join or whatever.

Perhaps as SENATE we should open a book on who it is likely to be!!

Margaret

RE: Digest Number 1237

Thanks for the info .

On another note is it possible for Senate members( in agreement)to propose as 'Chief Nurse' to DH?

Regards, Ann

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