Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Hi , welcome to the group! i can answer some but not all of your questions...hopefully Bee or someone else will chime in here on ther others > > 1) Are beans and legumes allowed? no, they aren't. They are pure carbs and carbs are candida food! ) > > 2) If a food that is allowed is not being digested, isn't the > undigested food feeding the yeast? The SCD recommends all fruits & > veggies cooked at the beginning to break down the cell walls and make > digestion easier, and I have been having issues with undigested fruits > & veggies, even cooked. I could eat a lot more veggies if they > weren't cooked but I'm sure I will still have problems digesting them. this is a Q for Bee to answer. But I will remind you that if you're following Bee's diet you shouldn't be having any fruit right now. I also know that many candida sufferers have trouble digesting raw veggies so it is best to cook them. Make sure you're thoroughly chewing your food to help digestion. As well, make sure you're taking the lemon/sea salt drink, it helps digestion too. > > 3) Are digestive enzymes recommended or helpful with this diet? yes, some people need them. I believe there is info in the files about digestive enzymes. > > 4) Why aren't nuts allowed? some nuts are allowed but not at the beginning stages of the diet. When you do eat them, they do however need to be soaked and dried first. For more info see the article " Nuts,How to Soak & Dry " in the Recipes folder. > > 5) Is it absolutely necessary to take all the recommended supplements? > Supplements are so costly.I do already follow Nourishing > Traditions, use coconut oil, and take high vitamin cod liver oil. > I'll let Bee answer the supplement question. You are doing well though to already be using coconut oil and cod liver oil. Make sure you're getting the lemon/sea salt drink and raw crushed garlic too! jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 wrote: > > Quick introduction: ==>Hi . Welcome to you and your DD. >I've had some relatively mild yeast symptoms (acne, low blood sugar among others) for years. My 5 month old exclusively breast fed DD has been showing signs of food intolerances for a few months. I've been following the Specific Carbohydrate Diet or SCD (basically no sugars but honey, no starches, no grains) for 2 months trying to clear up the yeast and heal our guts. > > I've read the newbie file and want to clarify some things. Please > understand that I am not questioning this diet, but I am trying to > determine if this is the best way of healing myself and my DD. > > 1) Are beans and legumes allowed? ==>Like Jackie said, no they are starches very high in carbs which is like having pure glucose, which feeds candida. > > 2) If a food that is allowed is not being digested, isn't the > undigested food feeding the yeast? The SCD recommends all fruits & > veggies cooked at the beginning to break down the cell walls and make digestion easier, and I have been having issues with undigested fruits & veggies, even cooked. I could eat a lot more veggies if they > weren't cooked but I'm sure I will still have problems digesting them. ==>All carbs are much harder for you body to digest than meats, eggs and " good " saturated fats as listed in my article. Undigested food doesn't necessarily feed candida, but it does cause additional digestive problems. Like Jackie said no fruits are allowed when you have candida, or even other health problems. Fructose are the very worst sugars for your body - do a search at www.mercola.com for fructose and you will understand. Fruits feed candida too! There are no vitamins in fruits that you can't get more of in veggies, i.e. peppers and broccoli contain much more vit. C than any fruits, and meats & eggs also contain vit. C. ==>Some people's digestion is so poor they cannot have any raw carbs of any kind, so veggies must be steamed, or cooked well, depending up the type of veggie. Sometimes these people must also puree their veggies in order to digest them, in the beginning that is. Eating kimchi and sauerkraut really helps digest foods, along with ocean sea salt & lemons, and good fats pull nutrients out of the foods, etc., etc. > > 3) Are digestive enzymes recommended or helpful with this diet? ==>Yes, if you need them. See the Digestion folder for articles about digestive enzymes, how to test for stomach acid, and how to take them. > > 4) Why aren't nuts allowed? ==>Nuts are extremely hard to digest, and they are high in carbs - like Jackie said they must also be from raw nuts only (not toasted or roasted, which contains bad oils) and also soaked and dried prior to eating them to remove the phytates that block digestion of minerals in the body, and enzymes that block the digestion of proteins. > > 5) Is it absolutely necessary to take all the recommended supplements? Supplements are so costly. I do already follow Nourishing Traditions, use coconut oil, and take high vitamin cod liver oil. ==>The diet and supplements work together; B vitamins are very important for the gut, and inhibit candida growth; cal/mag is because you can't have dairy, which is the best source; vitamin C is a must, so is vitamin E and the others. Each one has their place along with the diet, but they have been kept to a minimum. The best to you, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Is it actually possible to do this diet if you have very high calorie needs? I am already about 10 lbs below the minimum weight I should be at, and I'm struggling just to maintain it now. If I cut out fruits it's going to be even harder, and I don't think I can do it without nuts at all. I can eat a dozen eggs and half a pound or more of beef a day and it just doesn't cut it. I do soak and dry my raw nuts as recommended in " Nourishing Traditions " , and then I grind them into nut butter to hopefully make them easier to digest. Would that be an acceptable way to eat them if I can't do without them? Also, is eating a lot of homemade bone broth an acceptable way to get calcium & magnesium or is it still best to supplement? > > > > Quick introduction: > > ==>Hi . Welcome to you and your DD. > > >I've had some relatively mild yeast symptoms (acne, low blood sugar > among others) for years. My 5 month old exclusively breast fed DD > has been showing signs of food intolerances for a few months. I've > been following the Specific Carbohydrate Diet or SCD (basically no > sugars but honey, no starches, no grains) for 2 months trying to > clear up the yeast and heal our guts. > > > > I've read the newbie file and want to clarify some things. Please > > understand that I am not questioning this diet, but I am trying to > > determine if this is the best way of healing myself and my DD. > > > > 1) Are beans and legumes allowed? > > ==>Like Jackie said, no they are starches very high in carbs which is > like having pure glucose, which feeds candida. > > > > 2) If a food that is allowed is not being digested, isn't the > > undigested food feeding the yeast? The SCD recommends all fruits & > > veggies cooked at the beginning to break down the cell walls and > make digestion easier, and I have been having issues with undigested > fruits & veggies, even cooked. I could eat a lot more veggies if they > > weren't cooked but I'm sure I will still have problems digesting > them. > > ==>All carbs are much harder for you body to digest than meats, eggs > and " good " saturated fats as listed in my article. Undigested food > doesn't necessarily feed candida, but it does cause additional > digestive problems. Like Jackie said no fruits are allowed when you > have candida, or even other health problems. Fructose are the very > worst sugars for your body - do a search at www.mercola.com for > fructose and you will understand. Fruits feed candida too! There > are no vitamins in fruits that you can't get more of in veggies, i.e. > peppers and broccoli contain much more vit. C than any fruits, and > meats & eggs also contain vit. C. > > ==>Some people's digestion is so poor they cannot have any raw carbs > of any kind, so veggies must be steamed, or cooked well, depending up > the type of veggie. Sometimes these people must also puree their > veggies in order to digest them, in the beginning that is. Eating > kimchi and sauerkraut really helps digest foods, along with ocean sea > salt & lemons, and good fats pull nutrients out of the foods, etc., > etc. > > > > 3) Are digestive enzymes recommended or helpful with this diet? > > ==>Yes, if you need them. See the Digestion folder for articles > about digestive enzymes, how to test for stomach acid, and how to > take them. > > > > 4) Why aren't nuts allowed? > > ==>Nuts are extremely hard to digest, and they are high in carbs - > like Jackie said they must also be from raw nuts only (not toasted or > roasted, which contains bad oils) and also soaked and dried prior to > eating them to remove the phytates that block digestion of minerals > in the body, and enzymes that block the digestion of proteins. > > > > 5) Is it absolutely necessary to take all the recommended > supplements? Supplements are so costly. I do already follow > Nourishing Traditions, use coconut oil, and take high vitamin cod > liver oil. > > ==>The diet and supplements work together; B vitamins are very > important for the gut, and inhibit candida growth; cal/mag is because > you can't have dairy, which is the best source; vitamin C is a must, > so is vitamin E and the others. Each one has their place along with > the diet, but they have been kept to a minimum. > > The best to you, > Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Why are nut considered high in carbs? 1 oz of pecans has 4 carbs, and an ounce of almonds has 6 carbs...am I missing something here? > > > 4) Why aren't nuts allowed? > > > > ==>Nuts are extremely hard to digest, and they are high in carbs - > > like Jackie said they must also be from raw nuts only (not toasted or > > roasted, which contains bad oils) and also soaked and dried prior to > > eating them to remove the phytates that block digestion of minerals > > in the body, and enzymes that block the digestion of proteins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 > Why are nut considered high in carbs? 1 oz of pecans has 4 carbs, and > an ounce of almonds has 6 carbs...am I missing something here? One packet of sugar has 5.99g of carbohydrates (per FitDay), but that doesn't mean it's GOOD for us just because it's " low-carb " . in IN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 > Is it actually possible to do this diet if you have very high calorie > needs? I am already about 10 lbs below the minimum weight I should be > at, and I'm struggling just to maintain it now. If I cut out fruits > it's going to be even harder, and I don't think I can do it without > nuts at all. I can eat a dozen eggs and half a pound or more of beef > a day and it just doesn't cut it. I do soak and dry my raw nuts as > recommended in " Nourishing Traditions " , and then I grind them into nut > butter to hopefully make them easier to digest. Would that be an > acceptable way to eat them if I can't do without them? Fruit and nuts won't give you the biggest calorie bang for your buck. Most fruits are nothing but simple sugars and fiber, and the sugar has 4 calories per gram; the fiber has no calorie count. Fruit is pretty darned low-cal. I'm overweight, and I have pretty high calorie requirements (in order to lose weight, believe it or now.) I find that adding fat to my veggies is a great way to " sneak in " more calories. Fat has about 9 calories per gram, so saying you can't get enough calories without fruit doesn't really make any sense. Eat your veggies and add FAT. Just something to think about... in IN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 I wasn't equating " low carb " with " healthy " . Bee wrote that nuts are high in carbs and as far as I can tell they are not, so I am wondering if I am missing something. > > > Why are nut considered high in carbs? 1 oz of pecans has 4 carbs, and > > an ounce of almonds has 6 carbs...am I missing something here? > > One packet of sugar has 5.99g of carbohydrates (per FitDay), but that > doesn't mean it's GOOD for us just because it's " low-carb " . > > in IN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 wrote: > > Is it actually possible to do this diet if you have very high calorie needs? I am already about 10 lbs below the minimum weight I should be at, and I'm struggling just to maintain it now. If I cut out fruits it's going to be even harder, and I don't think I can do it without nuts at all. I can eat a dozen eggs and half a pound or more of beef a day and it just doesn't cut it. I do soak and dry my raw nuts as recommended in " Nourishing Traditions " , and then I grind them into nut butter to hopefully make them easier to digest. Would that be an acceptable way to eat them if I can't do without them? ==>Many of us have had a lot of misconceptions about calories versus nutrients when it comes to stabilizing weight. Low weight is the least of your problem when you have candida or are sick. What your body needs most is nutrients not calories; the proper nutrients will stabilize your weight to what it should be. In fact the diet I recommend is loaded with calories and nutrients but the calories are mostly from good saturated fats. If you have candida grains, nuts or fruits are no-nos. It is not about soaking and grinding nuts either because they are still high carbs. > > Also, is eating a lot of homemade bone broth an acceptable way to get calcium & magnesium or is it still best to supplement? ==>Bone broths are the very best way to get minerals and gelatin, so you might not need supplements. Bee P.S. Please trim your messages my friend - see the Candida Group Info folder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 > > Why are nut considered high in carbs? 1 oz of pecans has 4 carbs, and > an ounce of almonds has 6 carbs...am I missing something here? ==>It's not about the amount of carbs, it's the kind of carbs, which is starch, which turns into pure sugar. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 > I wasn't equating " low carb " with " healthy " . Bee wrote that nuts are > high in carbs and as far as I can tell they are not, so I am wondering > if I am missing something. Honestly, I think that if a person were able to stick to a serving (say 1oz), it wouldn't be THAT big of a deal if carbs were the only concern. I eat many more veggie carbs in one sitting than the carbs you can find in an ounce of macadamia nuts, for instance. I think that the concern for candida suffers is more the possibility of mold and the difficulty in digesting them. Once we've cured our candida though, it seems that some carby foods would be worse choices than others, and I'm not all that sure that properly prepared nuts are so bad in small quantities. in IN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Dear , It's about the starch in nuts more than about the carbs, and also, like you say, the difficulty digesting them. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 > Dear , > It's about the starch in nuts more than about the carbs, and also, like > you say, the difficulty digesting them. Not to be argumentative here, but ALL plant matter has sugar or starch (or both) in it. Starch and sugar are one of the products of photosynthesis that keep the plants living. I wouldn't think that 5 grams of nut carbs would be any more harmful than 5 grams of other plant matter carbs, all things being equal. In fact, certain nuts (like macadamias) don't raise your blood sugar much at all because of their high fiber and fat content. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that we should go out and eat nuts when we're suffering from candida, but saying we shouldn't eat them because there's starch in them doesn't make that much sense to me since there's " starch " in even the lowest-carb veggies that are allowed (just like there's fructose in foods that are allowed.) Like I said, I'm not trying to fight. Just trying to be clear... in IN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 said: Not to be argumentative here, but ALL plant matter has sugar or starch (or both) in it. Starch and sugar are one of the products of photosynthesis that keep the plants living. I wouldn't think that 5 grams of nut carbs would be any more harmful than 5 grams of other plant matter carbs, all things being equal. In fact, certain nuts (like macadamias) don't raise your blood sugar much at all because of their high fiber and fat content. == Hi -Last night I was discussing eating nuts with a group of friends (none of whom have Candida) and it was agreed by all that they are just plain hard to digest. Even with people who don't have Candida, often they show up in the stool, undigested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 I have to agree with here. I don't think the carbs in nuts are the issues. Also I don't have any problems digesting nuts. I think the greater issue with nuts is that they have mold and hence are not good for candida sufferers. Not to mention that for food addicts they can be easy to over-do, so for those trying to lose weight it's even more of an issue. It's easy to sit down and eat a whole can of nuts and get way too much food, whereas it's a lot harder to do the same damage with broccoli or spinach. Also nuts do not contain anything we can't get from all the other foods on this diet. Luv, Debby San , CA --- Wittekind <starlite@...> wrote: > Not to be argumentative here, but ALL plant matter > has sugar or starch (or > both) in it. Starch and sugar are one of the > products of photosynthesis > that keep the plants living. I wouldn't think that > 5 grams of nut carbs > would be any more harmful than 5 grams of other > plant matter carbs, all > things being equal. In fact, certain nuts (like > macadamias) don't raise > your blood sugar much at all because of their high > fiber and fat content. Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04: http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Today is the most important day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 mold and hence are not good for candida sufferers. > > Not to mention that for food addicts they can be easy > to over-do, so for those trying to lose weight it's > even more of an issue. > > It's easy to sit down and eat a whole can of nuts and > get way too much food, whereas it's a lot harder to do > the same damage with broccoli or spinach. > > Also nuts do not contain anything we can't get from > all the other foods on this diet. Some of us need the extra calories, though--that's what I would get from nuts that I would have trouble getting from other foods. Like you said, it's easier to eat a couple of ounces of nuts than 1/2 lb of ground beef or 6 eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 --- tarinya2 <tarinya2@...> wrote: > Some of us need the extra calories, though--that's > what I would get > from nuts that I would have trouble getting from > other foods. Like > you said, it's easier to eat a couple of ounces of > nuts than 1/2 lb of > ground beef or 6 eggs. Yes, this is a good point, but it's even easier and more calories to add good fats to your food without causing problems with your candida.. lard, tallow, coconut oil, etc. Just 1 tbsp of oil is 100+ cals! So if you make a veggie stir fry with a bit of meat and then add a bunch of oil that the veggies soak up it tastes quite yummy and is very filling and a lot of cals. Trust me when I started I was eating 3500+ calories, so it is much easier this way! Luv, Debby San , CA Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04: http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Today is the most important day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 .. > > Yes, this is a good point, but it's even easier and > more calories to add good fats to your food without > causing problems with your candida.. lard, tallow, > coconut oil, etc. Just 1 tbsp of oil is 100+ cals! > > So if you make a veggie stir fry with a bit of meat > and then add a bunch of oil that the veggies soak up > it tastes quite yummy and is very filling and a lot of > cals. > > Trust me when I started I was eating 3500+ calories, > so it is much easier this way! Do you have any meal suggestions (besides the stir fry)? I probably need close to 3000 calories a day. I'm a little leery of stir-fries because I have undigested food show up later if I eat them, in spite of stir-frying them forever to try to soften the veggies up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 tarinya2 wrote: Do you have any meal suggestions (besides the stir fry)? I probably need close to 3000 calories a day. I'm a little leery of stir-fries because I have undigested food show up later if I eat them, in spite of stir-frying them forever to try to soften the veggies up. ----- I'm just catching up on posts and have noticed your questions. Have you read the files yet? There is a wealth of knowledge to be found there. Bee has spent a great many hours putting them together. Do check out www.fitday.com which is a free on-line programme. You can find out just how many calories you get in a meal/food selection as well as monitor your ratios of good fat : protein : carbs. It's very easy to follow. If you want to soften veggies, try steaming them say over chicken broth for extra flavour then popping them into a blender. You can then add them into an omelette, cooked with coconut oil and herbs/spices of your choice. Drain the vegies, put into the pan, sautee a bit then add the raw egg. Flip each side into the middle and then flip the lot over to the other side to finish it off, like a nice little parcel of goodies. Serve with sea salt for added flavour. Maybe serve with a salad on the side if you like. Easy meal and easily digested. You can even use a sandwich toaster (or a specially made omelette maker but why waste money on another gadget)...just put the steamed and softened vegies into a bowl with the eggs, mix together and put into the sandwich toaster. Wah lah! Vegie omelette, so easy! There are many recipes in the folders to try. Good luck! Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 > Do you have any meal suggestions (besides the stir fry)? I probably > need close to 3000 calories a day. I'm a little leery of stir-fries > because I have undigested food show up later if I eat them, in spite > of stir-frying them forever to try to soften the veggies up. ==>Hi. Sorry, what is your name? For menu suggestions see the Candida Diet - Foods to Eat Folder, and also see our Recipe Folder which has tons of entrees, vegetable dishes, etc. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 --- tarinya2 <tarinya2@...> wrote: > Do you have any meal suggestions (besides the stir > fry)? I probably > need close to 3000 calories a day. I'm a little > leery of stir-fries > because I have undigested food show up later if I > eat them, in spite > of stir-frying them forever to try to soften the > veggies up. I don't make my stir fries in the traditional sense. I steam the veggies seperately in my veggie steamer until soft. I can't stand them to be crisp at all. Then I use kitchen scissors to snip them into bite size pieces since I'm too lazy to chop them first. I have this food steamer and it works great: Oster 6.1 Qt. Food Steamer http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00073HLMU/002-4724497-9388814?v=glance & n=28450\ 7 Then I saute my onions, garlic and bell peppers in oil and add my meat last. I often end up reheating the meat in the toaster oven so I will often leave it slightly pink so it doesn't get too dry when I reheat it. Then I mix everything together, add sea salt, black pepper and raw cilantro and I'm good to go. Other meal ideas are soups where you can just mix your meat, veggies and oil all together. You can also get different veggies and meat and make a casserole. You can do the veggies first and get them crisp and brown and then top them with suateed ground beef and onions and some mild grated peppers. You can do veggie/meat skewers on the BBQ as well. This site might give you some more ideas.. I eat sort of boring because it's easy for me and works well for me: http://www.paleofood.com/ Not all of the recipes are appropriate for this diet so watch the ingredients, but many will be appropriate. Also check out the recipe section for this site. I like the way meat and veggies taste together the most as opposed to seperately as they compliment each other. Stir fries are really easy to do for me. Luv, Debby San , CA Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04: http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Today is the most important day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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