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Dear Anne,

Great to hear from you. Welcome to our friendly active group.

Actually white, non-colored, non-pasteurized cultured cheeses like

the raw goat's milk you mention are okay for most candida sufferers.

Take a little and see how you do. Let us know too, eh?

I had some white cheese after about 9 months into my 2-1/2 candida

program and it was fine.

The best,

Bee

> Does anyone know whether Rubin's reference to cultured goat's milk

product

> includes cheese? I've been buying Alta Dena brand cheese made from

cultured

> raw goat milk. I do hope that it's okay for Candida but would

appreciate any

> knowledge in this realm.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Anne

>

> _____

>

> From: garrett_bose [mailto:garrett_bose@y...]

> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:41 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] " Patient Heal Thyself "

>

>

> I read a book called Patient Heal Thyself by Jordan S. Rubin who is

> also author of new book called Maker's Diet. I want to mention

about

> this link between this book and Bee's anti-candida program. Rubin

> has recommend exactly same diet that Bee has recommended. Great,

> isn't it? :)

>

> He has list the therapeutic foods for candida sufferer.

>

> 1. Cultured goat's milk products

>

> 2. Grass-fed red meat

>

> 3. Omega-3 eggs

>

> 4. Extra virgin coconut oil

>

> 5. Ocean-caught fish (salmon, sardines, mackerel, herring and

> albacore tuna.

>

> 6. Cod liver oil

>

> 7. Vegetable juice

>

> 8. Fermented vegetables

>

> 9. Stocks

>

>

> Bee has mentioned that a sufferer from leaky gut symdrome should

not

> consume any fermented foods or take probiotic supplement because it

> can go through blood and poison it, right, Bee?

>

> But to have balanced intestinal flora is essential to restore

> digestive and overall health. Hmm?

>

> Basically, what has recommended in Patient Heal Thyself is

> exactly same as what Bee has recommended but only one thing

> different is fermented foods and taking probiotic. I remember Bee

> has mentioned this because mold- and yeast-containing foods are

> needed to be avoided by candida sufferers. Rubin said same thing. I

> guess fermented foods are not count as mold- and yeast-containing

> foods?

>

> But it is truly my pleasure to enjoy this kind of dietary discovery.

>

>

> Garrett

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Bee,

Many thanks for the help. My daughter and I love the cheese (and it's hard

to find things that she loves on the Candida diet). We only recently started

eating it -- perhaps a month ago now. I will see how we do with continued

consumption. If we don't feel better soon with the other dietary changes

that we're making, we'll try eliminating it.

Cheers,

Anne

_____

From: Bee [mailto:beeisbuzzing2003@...]

Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:58 PM

Subject: [ ] raw goat milk cheese

Dear Anne,

Great to hear from you. Welcome to our friendly active group.

Actually white, non-colored, non-pasteurized cultured cheeses like

the raw goat's milk you mention are okay for most candida sufferers.

Take a little and see how you do. Let us know too, eh?

I had some white cheese after about 9 months into my 2-1/2 candida

program and it was fine.

The best,

Bee

> Does anyone know whether Rubin's reference to cultured goat's milk

product

> includes cheese? I've been buying Alta Dena brand cheese made from

cultured

> raw goat milk. I do hope that it's okay for Candida but would

appreciate any

> knowledge in this realm.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Anne

>

> _____

>

> From: garrett_bose [mailto:garrett_bose@y...]

> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:41 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] " Patient Heal Thyself "

>

>

> I read a book called Patient Heal Thyself by Jordan S. Rubin who is

> also author of new book called Maker's Diet. I want to mention

about

> this link between this book and Bee's anti-candida program. Rubin

> has recommend exactly same diet that Bee has recommended. Great,

> isn't it? :)

>

> He has list the therapeutic foods for candida sufferer.

>

> 1. Cultured goat's milk products

>

> 2. Grass-fed red meat

>

> 3. Omega-3 eggs

>

> 4. Extra virgin coconut oil

>

> 5. Ocean-caught fish (salmon, sardines, mackerel, herring and

> albacore tuna.

>

> 6. Cod liver oil

>

> 7. Vegetable juice

>

> 8. Fermented vegetables

>

> 9. Stocks

>

>

> Bee has mentioned that a sufferer from leaky gut symdrome should

not

> consume any fermented foods or take probiotic supplement because it

> can go through blood and poison it, right, Bee?

>

> But to have balanced intestinal flora is essential to restore

> digestive and overall health. Hmm?

>

> Basically, what has recommended in Patient Heal Thyself is

> exactly same as what Bee has recommended but only one thing

> different is fermented foods and taking probiotic. I remember Bee

> has mentioned this because mold- and yeast-containing foods are

> needed to be avoided by candida sufferers. Rubin said same thing. I

> guess fermented foods are not count as mold- and yeast-containing

> foods?

>

> But it is truly my pleasure to enjoy this kind of dietary discovery.

>

>

> Garrett

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Bee:

Are similar cheeses made with raw *cow* milk okay, or is it just the ones

with raw goat milk?

Thanks much,

Anne

_____

From: Bee [mailto:beeisbuzzing2003@...]

Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:58 PM

Subject: [ ] raw goat milk cheese

Dear Anne,

Great to hear from you. Welcome to our friendly active group.

Actually white, non-colored, non-pasteurized cultured cheeses like

the raw goat's milk you mention are okay for most candida sufferers.

Take a little and see how you do. Let us know too, eh?

I had some white cheese after about 9 months into my 2-1/2 candida

program and it was fine.

The best,

Bee

> Does anyone know whether Rubin's reference to cultured goat's milk

product

> includes cheese? I've been buying Alta Dena brand cheese made from

cultured

> raw goat milk. I do hope that it's okay for Candida but would

appreciate any

> knowledge in this realm.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Anne

>

> _____

>

> From: garrett_bose [mailto:garrett_bose@y...]

> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:41 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] " Patient Heal Thyself "

>

>

> I read a book called Patient Heal Thyself by Jordan S. Rubin who is

> also author of new book called Maker's Diet. I want to mention

about

> this link between this book and Bee's anti-candida program. Rubin

> has recommend exactly same diet that Bee has recommended. Great,

> isn't it? :)

>

> He has list the therapeutic foods for candida sufferer.

>

> 1. Cultured goat's milk products

>

> 2. Grass-fed red meat

>

> 3. Omega-3 eggs

>

> 4. Extra virgin coconut oil

>

> 5. Ocean-caught fish (salmon, sardines, mackerel, herring and

> albacore tuna.

>

> 6. Cod liver oil

>

> 7. Vegetable juice

>

> 8. Fermented vegetables

>

> 9. Stocks

>

>

> Bee has mentioned that a sufferer from leaky gut symdrome should

not

> consume any fermented foods or take probiotic supplement because it

> can go through blood and poison it, right, Bee?

>

> But to have balanced intestinal flora is essential to restore

> digestive and overall health. Hmm?

>

> Basically, what has recommended in Patient Heal Thyself is

> exactly same as what Bee has recommended but only one thing

> different is fermented foods and taking probiotic. I remember Bee

> has mentioned this because mold- and yeast-containing foods are

> needed to be avoided by candida sufferers. Rubin said same thing. I

> guess fermented foods are not count as mold- and yeast-containing

> foods?

>

> But it is truly my pleasure to enjoy this kind of dietary discovery.

>

>

> Garrett

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Anne,

I had white pasteurized cheese, but raw cow's milk cheese would be

okay too.

Bee

> Bee:

>

> Are similar cheeses made with raw *cow* milk okay, or is it just

the ones

> with raw goat milk?

>

> Thanks much,

>

> Anne

>

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