Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 > > Bee, > > 60mg is not very much thyroid imo. I am on 135mg myself and do have a thyroid but have Hashimoto's and used to have an enlarged, overactive thyroid. Perhaps if I had begun this diet yrs ago, I would not need Armour but now it is 3 yrs later and here I am - Armour has definitely helped me to some extent before I began the diet though never completely. > > I have also done extensive research on thyroid and hormones and found that low dose therapy is not beneficial and does not work on most. If you have any other information on this subject, please point us to some articles. This goes against everything I have learned about replacing thyroid hormones so I am curious why you feel 60mg is an awful lot. ==>That is because I have no thyroid at all I only take 90 mgs. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Anita wrote: > > > > 60mg is not very much thyroid imo. I am on 135mg myself and do > have a thyroid but have Hashimoto's and used to have an enlarged, > overactive thyroid. > > Bee wrote: > ==>That is because I have no thyroid at all I only take 90 mgs. > Bee, is this because you don't have candida and therefore your cells are absorbing all your thyroid hormones properly? So, you need less even though you don't have a thyroid. Because I have been assuming that when my candida is gone, I will need less thyroid hormone if any at all - hopefully the latter. Trish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 > > > ==>That is because I have no thyroid at all I only take 90 mgs. > > > Bee, is this because you don't have candida and therefore your cells are absorbing all your thyroid hormones properly? So, you need less even though you don't have a thyroid. Because I have been assuming that when my candida is gone, I will need less thyroid > hormone if any at all - hopefully the latter. ==>It is very possible that because I do not have candida I do not need such high doses of thyroid. When you have candida the toxins make all cells go rigid, including thyroid cells, which means two things: 1) the thyroid not able to function as well, and 2) thyroid and other hormones are not as able to get into the cells where they are needed to do their job. ==>I regulate the amount of thyroid I need to take by my symptoms, and tell my doctor how much to perscribe. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 I think this makes so much sense. I often read about " thyroid resistance " and now feel strongly this " resistance " must be candida/toxins blocking absorption properly of hormones. Makes so much sense. Thanks Bee for your insights on this - ~Anita Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote: ==>It is very possible that because I do not have candida I do not need such high doses of thyroid. When you have candida the toxins make all cells go rigid, including thyroid cells, which means two things: 1) the thyroid not able to function as well, and 2) thyroid and other hormones are not as able to get into the cells where they are needed to do their job. ==>I regulate the amount of thyroid I need to take by my symptoms, and tell my doctor how much to perscribe. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Bee wrote: > > ==>I regulate the amount of thyroid I need to take by my symptoms, > and tell my doctor how much to perscribe. > So, you never have your TSH checked? The only doctor I currently have is a strictly synthroid doctor who would never believe I had candida. I had another doctor that tried me with armour and it didn't seem to agree with me, but i can't go to her anymore. Right now, I haven't seen anyone since last Aug. about my thyroid, except a naturopathic doctor who put me on a bovine thyroid substance but it contains kelp. I had stopped taking my synthroid in favor of the bovine stuff. I know my thyroid still isn't functioning properly, but I know so much of this is affected by the candida and my inability to absorb hormones properly. I really need some guidance here. Do I need to have my TSH checked? Can I go by symptoms only or is that too complicated due to having candida and adrenal problems also? (In the past, I have had a TSH of 10 while feeling pretty normal and then I've also had a normal TSH while feeling terrible.) Should I just not worry about this until I get the candida under control? I am currently taking one glandular pill a day and taking coconut oil - in the process of working up to 5 Tbls. per day. I just feel like my metabolism is so slow. > Thanks so much, Bee, for your advice on this topic! Trish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 > > Bee wrote: > > > > ==>I regulate the amount of thyroid I need to take by my symptoms, > > and tell my doctor how much to perscribe. > > > So, you never have your TSH checked? The only doctor I currently have is a strictly > synthroid doctor who would never believe I had candida. I had another doctor that tried > me with armour and it didn't seem to agree with me, but i can't go to her anymore. Right now, I haven't seen anyone since last Aug. about my thyroid, except a naturopathic doctor who put me on a bovine thyroid substance but it contains kelp. I had stopped taking my synthroid in favor of the bovine stuff. I know my thyroid still isn't functioning properly, but I know so much of this is affected by the candida and my inability to absorb hormones properly. I really need some guidance here. Do I need to have my TSH checked? Can I go by symptoms only or is that too complicated due to having candida and adrenal problems also? (In the past, I have had a TSH of 10 while feeling pretty normal and then I've also had a normal TSH while feeling terrible.) Should I just not worry about this until I get the candida under control? I am currently taking one glandular pill a day and taking coconut oil - in the process of working up to 5 Tbls. per day. I just feel like my metabolism is so slow. > > > Thanks so much, Bee, for your advice on this topic! > Trish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 > > > > > > ==>I regulate the amount of thyroid I need to take by my symptoms, and tell my doctor how much to perscribe. > > > > > So, you never have your TSH checked? ==>Yes I have. > The only doctor I currently have is a strictly synthroid doctor who would never believe I had candida. I had another doctor that tried > > me with armour and it didn't seem to agree with me, but i can't go to her anymore. Right now, I haven't seen anyone since last Aug. about my thyroid, except a naturopathic doctor who put me on a bovine thyroid substance but it contains kelp. I had stopped taking my synthroid in favor of the bovine stuff. I know my thyroid still isn't functioning properly, but I know so much of this is affected by the candida and my inability to absorb hormones properly. I really need some guidance here. Do I need to have my TSH checked? ==>Getting rid of your candida should be a big priority because your thyroid will normalize when you cure it. Tests do not find out what is going on inside the cells, particularly TSH tests. See Dr. Rind's website for tests that need to be done, i.e. Free T3 and T4. TSH tests are inconclusive. He explains why and does a better job of explaining than I can. >> Can I go by symptoms only or is that too complicated due to having candida and adrenal problems also? (In the past, I have had a TSH of 10 while feeling pretty normal and then I've also had a normal TSH while feeling terrible.) Should I just not worry about this until I get the candida under control? I am currently taking one glandular pill a day and taking coconut oil - in the process of working up to 5 Tbls. per day. I just feel like my metabolism is so slow. ==>Candida causes slow metabolism, and like I said the thyroid isn't the only organ involved in metabolism. The cause of your problems is candida, and not the thyroid or the adrenals, etc. To shoot off into different directions treating this and treating that is counterproductive to getting rid of candida, which should be your focus. Treating symptoms separately is what doctors do and their treatments gave us candida. This program is designed to build up your immune system and to give your body what it needs to heal naturally. Hugs, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 --- Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote: > ==>Candida causes slow metabolism, and like I said > the thyroid isn't > the only organ involved in metabolism. Hi Bee, This is really interesting. Can you explain (or point me to something that explains) how candida slows metabolism? I know you are busy so just when ever you have time.. I'm curious to know the specifics on this. Luv, Debby San , CA 380/297/150 Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04: http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Today is the most important day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Trish wrote: > > Do I need to have my TSH checked? > Bee wrote: > ==>Getting rid of your candida should be a big priority because your > thyroid will normalize when you cure it. Tests do not find out what > is going on inside the cells, particularly TSH tests. See Dr. Rind's > website for tests that need to be done, i.e. Free T3 and T4. TSH > tests are inconclusive. He explains why and does a better job of > explaining than I can. Actually, I have been to see Dr. Rind just once and it was just before my candida blew up in my face. He really helped me from a thyroid/adrenal perspective, but I can't afford to continue to go to him and I doubt he can help me with my candida. But, his T3, T4 stuff is right on target. My doctor here doesn't buy all that, thus my problem. > > I just feel like my metabolism is so slow. > > ==>Candida causes slow metabolism, and like I said the thyroid isn't > the only organ involved in metabolism. The cause of your problems is > candida, and not the thyroid or the adrenals, etc. To shoot off into > different directions treating this and treating that is > counterproductive to getting rid of candida, which should be your > focus. Treating symptoms separately is what doctors do and their > treatments gave us candida. This program is designed to build up > your immune system and to give your body what it needs to heal > naturally. > Okay, I will just have to be patient and wait for my body to heal! The slow metabolism really does make sense because it did not kick in until my candida got bad. Even when my thyroid was at its most underactive, I had no problems with weight at all and my energy levels were really good too. I know I had candida then, but just not as bad as it is now. Thanks for the input, Bee. Trish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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